I’ve had a Bark River Boon II in 3v satisfy my traditional knife needs. It’s survived now it’s 4th season as a Fire (wood prep) knife. It had impressed me so much I purchased the Bark River Quarter Master which came apart on its maiden voyage. They promptly fixed it but the trust is now gone. I’m back to my trusty BR Bravo 1.5...Yes your Benchmade still makes me wish I bought one.
I have NEVER been a fan of Buck in the 420 steel with the hollow grinds, ever since one broke on me on the ranch. When an Ozark Trail knife in Chinese cheap-ass shiz steel outperforms it, well, Buck you have some explaining to do. Especially for the ridiculous price of the 124. Shame on Buck.
Try gutting with the hallowgrind it makes a difference in slicing that you will notice the only difference is that a hallow grind can do things just has good has flat grinds and convex edges
The 124 is a slicer built for general camo tasks and defense in the 70's. Batoning wasn't a popular activity at the time nor was cross cutting. It's a better slicer than most knives it's size but not designed to do any wood working.
I believe the original one was a dive knife. It slices good. But no better than any other knife of similar thickness. My toilet paper tube tests have proven that to me.
This guy… I bet he prefers peterbilts over kenworths. Name trader for likes and hearts. Only reason he keeps throwing videos up of the buck is because secretly he loves it and he know he can keep getting views. Btw. I love buck knives too sweetie.
I guess if you had to process a Buffalo, moose, elk, or a cow, a knife like the buck makes sense because that is kind of what the designs that inspired them did... I do like the really large guard on the buck, slipping off and cutting g your hand is no bueno.
In my own humble opinion. I don't think a hollow grind has its place as a survival knife. I personally wouldn't want a hollow grind on my survival knife. Great video
I've wondered this as well. Saber grind for survival and maybe full flat grind if it's 1/4". Although, there is one hollow grind that might beat most high end super "duper" steel knives in a face off. And that is the 1/4" thick Buck 650 Nighthawk. The destruction tests I have seen are very impressive. Why they discontinued it is beyond me. In addition, according to Larrin's toughness chart, simple old school 420HC is some of the toughest steels out there. Although, not sure, but my 650C Nighthawk might be 425 or 425M (according to the old 1995 Buck catalog). But to your point, hollow grinds are for slicing. I don't spend money on high end knives so the ones I use are well under the $100 tag and old school steels (Ontario RD's, SP10 Marine Raider, SP51, 650 Nighthawk, Becker BK9, Cold Steel Carbon V Recon Scout, etc.)
Sorry but I love the BUCK 124, a classic. Impressed with the “garbage” Ozark Trail, IMO too much emphasis on designer steels, ok I get holding an edge between sharpening arguments. This was entertaining if nothing else.
I have both as well. I don't have the guts to use my back that way because it cost $180 roughly and I beat the hell out of my OT because I have a brand new $20 for when I break this one. Best $20 I've ever bought.
Man I was shocked after I saw your chopping took my 124 out and chopped the nastiest wood and its perfect. either your heat treat got altered by your sharpening methods or its a factory dud,
@@peterbiltknifeguy give it a sort sharpen then retry bucks first grind always tends to do that in a fresh knife buy after you hone it or strop or sharpen it it’s good to go
I've seen other knives chop antler and take no damage. I've got several khukuri's that go through testing and chop nails in half with no damage. They have to go through this testing to be released to it's new owner. Buck should be able to do the same IMHO. Maybe a 3V Buck 124 with a nice flat ground blade and a convex edge would work better on the antler chop. Thanks for the nice review and testing info. 🗡️👍🔪
Pretty much a simple camp knife nothing too abusive or survival just to have a good time kind of knife . I kind of like my EX - F01 but this one would work well for car camping or doing light stuff at a camp ground...
I'd love to see more destruction, try-to-break-it tests on the discontinued Buck 650 Nighthawk. Very tough 1/4" hollow grind. And before people crap on old school 420HC, check out Larrin's (of Magnacut fame) toughness chart. 420HC is some of the toughest steel out there.
I’ve had a Bark River Boon II in 3v satisfy my traditional knife needs. It’s survived now it’s 4th season as a Fire (wood prep) knife. It had impressed me so much I purchased the Bark River Quarter Master which came apart on its maiden voyage. They promptly fixed it but the trust is now gone. I’m back to my trusty BR Bravo 1.5...Yes your Benchmade still makes me wish I bought one.
I have NEVER been a fan of Buck in the 420 steel with the hollow grinds, ever since one broke on me on the ranch. When an Ozark Trail knife in Chinese cheap-ass shiz steel outperforms it, well, Buck you have some explaining to do. Especially for the ridiculous price of the 124. Shame on Buck.
Try gutting with the hallowgrind it makes a difference in slicing that you will notice the only difference is that a hallow grind can do things just has good has flat grinds and convex edges
Antler is a knife killer and I've seen several edges roll and chip from it.I agree with you though about the hollow grind.
The 124 is a slicer built for general camo tasks and defense in the 70's. Batoning wasn't a popular activity at the time nor was cross cutting. It's a better slicer than most knives it's size but not designed to do any wood working.
I believe the original one was a dive knife. It slices good. But no better than any other knife of similar thickness. My toilet paper tube tests have proven that to me.
Thank you, i absolutely despise hollow grinds!
You and me both!
This guy… I bet he prefers peterbilts over kenworths.
Name trader for likes and hearts.
Only reason he keeps throwing videos up of the buck is because secretly he loves it and he know he can keep getting views.
Btw. I love buck knives too sweetie.
That explains why you’re calling a grown man “sweetie” listen!… I don’t care what you and your boyfriend do okay 👍 I’m not your enemy
@@peterbiltknifeguy I know pumpkin. You are now my sweetie for commenting back. Give me a kiss!!!
@@snaphuglue1617 but your boyfriend??? Sinner
@@peterbiltknifeguy lololol
I guess if you had to process a Buffalo, moose, elk, or a cow, a knife like the buck makes sense because that is kind of what the designs that inspired them did... I do like the really large guard on the buck, slipping off and cutting g your hand is no bueno.
Why do grinds matter?
I have a free railroad spike that
splits stuff like crazy.
It never breaks.
Cool
In my own humble opinion. I don't think a hollow grind has its place as a survival knife. I personally wouldn't want a hollow grind on my survival knife. Great video
Thank you. I agree
I've wondered this as well. Saber grind for survival and maybe full flat grind if it's 1/4". Although, there is one hollow grind that might beat most high end super "duper" steel knives in a face off. And that is the 1/4" thick Buck 650 Nighthawk. The destruction tests I have seen are very impressive. Why they discontinued it is beyond me. In addition, according to Larrin's toughness chart, simple old school 420HC is some of the toughest steels out there. Although, not sure, but my 650C Nighthawk might be 425 or 425M (according to the old 1995 Buck catalog). But to your point, hollow grinds are for slicing. I don't spend money on high end knives so the ones I use are well under the $100 tag and old school steels (Ontario RD's, SP10 Marine Raider, SP51, 650 Nighthawk, Becker BK9, Cold Steel Carbon V Recon Scout, etc.)
Sorry but I love the BUCK 124, a classic. Impressed with the “garbage” Ozark Trail, IMO too much emphasis on designer steels, ok I get holding an edge between sharpening arguments. This was entertaining if nothing else.
Uh, some buck knives are now made in china, started when they moved to Idaho I believe...
I have both as well. I don't have the guts to use my back that way because it cost $180 roughly and I beat the hell out of my OT because I have a brand new $20 for when I break this one. Best $20 I've ever bought.
It was a sad moment when it messed up
Man I was shocked after I saw your chopping took my 124 out and chopped the nastiest wood and its perfect. either your heat treat got altered by your sharpening methods or its a factory dud,
That was a factory edge
@@peterbiltknifeguy give it a sort sharpen then retry bucks first grind always tends to do that in a fresh knife buy after you hone it or strop or sharpen it it’s good to go
I've seen other knives chop antler and take no damage. I've got several khukuri's that go through testing and chop nails in half with no damage. They have to go through this testing to be released to it's new owner. Buck should be able to do the same IMHO. Maybe a 3V Buck 124 with a nice flat ground blade and a convex edge would work better on the antler chop. Thanks for the nice review and testing info. 🗡️👍🔪
I agree 100%.
The ozark trail looks just like the Buck reaper knife i bought 4 on clearance for 9 bucks a piece a few years back
It sure does
Notice you saw my comment so im just curious what boots those are they look pretty nice. Anyways goodvideos keep them up
Redwings
I like both but then I wouldnt beat the crap out of the ozark trail one .
Pretty much a simple camp knife nothing too abusive or survival just to have a good time kind of knife . I kind of like my EX - F01 but this one would work well for car camping or doing light stuff at a camp ground...
Put that skinning knife through the works! But a hollow grind that big is ridiculous to me. Good video bud! P.S. you still dead to me! 😂
💪🏼 Well ya did it. As you said, "it was bound to happen".
Use oak or ash and not a soft wood like pine
Maybe you should
hollow grind is mainly for meat cutting
Nice work on both of em...Back to the adjustment wheel for the blade of the Buck....Good stuff....
Already fixed it. Check out my short lol
@@peterbiltknifeguy Will do....
Does the Buck have a good enough spine to throw sparks from ferro rod?
Yes
I'd love to see more destruction, try-to-break-it tests on the discontinued Buck 650 Nighthawk. Very tough 1/4" hollow grind. And before people crap on old school 420HC, check out Larrin's (of Magnacut fame) toughness chart. 420HC is some of the toughest steel out there.
True. But toughness is only a fraction of the equation
@@peterbiltknifeguy you are correct on that one.