Are you fullas gonna make shift fire hoodies and long sleeve shirts?? I am in the southern hemisphere so we are heading into autumn so we are looking at cooler gear. Maybe some beanies. 😚
@@IsraelWright Pretty sure the guys from Savage Actual have expressed interest in doing Airsoft with you two! Hope an Airsoft collab is in store for the near future!
At my unit all my buddies were asking why I dropped almost 1k on the crye avs until they tried it on with the exact same plates and loadout we normally run. Next thing yk they all show up a month later with an avs absolutely in love with it
AVS and JPC are 2 of my go-tos... that and the CPC, but good luck getting those without a government contract, apparently. I've never been able to buy one as a civilian, cause they're always sold out when I look. The kind of problems you run into when you retire, I guess 🤷♂️
@@lincolnpascual they do not require government contract to purchase, but they are usually sold out or have extended wait times. If anything try buying from a different website than crye because their products are sold everywhere
@@GooninRaccoonin oh i keep looking. Yeah I know they don't need contracts, but it definitely helps. The big boys don't need to shop around for deals, you know? I'm not in anymore, and definitely not hi-speed (hi drag, maybe... hard to run with one leg lol) anymore, so meh, it is what it is. I'm good with the kit I've got. Currently if I were to buy a new one, it would basically be an impulse buy. The closest I'm currently coming to combat is checking in and talking to my mom every Friday. Talk about stress inoculation.
@@lincolnpascual the avs killed my bank at first but made 40lbs loadouts feel like 20lbs which I fucking loved. Also one of my buddies who lost both his legs from an ied said he can atleast focus on just his arms at the gym and doesnt have to worry about leg day anymore. Goodluck anyways bro!
@@GooninRaccoonin shit when you put it that way, maybe i should get my other leg removed too 😂🤣😂🤣. My buddy lost his arm same time as my leg, now every time I need assistance putting my leg on and he's around, fucking smartass pops his arm off and hands it to me. A "helping hand". 😶😶😶😶
I once operated in the sandbox with all Condor gear. It was a bit more uncomfortable than my kit that got lost last minute (long story), but it wasn’t too bad. You don’t need tier one gear, but it sure is nice. FYI, they called me the Walmart warrior for a month!
We had a guy who bought all his own mags, carrier, and attachments for his carrier, he also paid the extra to get his own eotech setup, everyone made fun of him until they ended up clearing buildings and the eotech was a huge advantage over the ACOG
I used to buy condor gear at the PX all the time, they even built an actual condor store on base for us to purchase gear. I put a lot of years into some of my condor gear.
Throw in some RMA and hoplite plates, very good proven plates lvl4 and the RMA are fairly inexpensive, a little heavier than some others, but less cost with the same if not better protection.
Love that all the comments are saying how much they enjoy this channel, or how they’ve been binging all your vids. I’m here just to say the same thing, you guys are awesome. Also, since you’re doing merch, I think a patch would be sick. I’ve been looking to get into airsoft and id gladly rock a Shift Fire patch on my gear.
It’s funny because everything they criticized the condor for not having , they gave credit to the crye because of the aftermarket attachments. Then utilized the ceramic plate saying that it wasn’t a lot of movement instead of the steel plate. But to each it’s own.
Agreed. Condors are disposable items but still very effective and usable. Cryes are an investment for professionals who spend an extended amount of time in their kit
@@Chicano_pistolero When I ended up moving last year I had a little kid neighbor who wanted to get into airsoft and I probably gave him about $6000 worth of guns and equipment
@@ironleeFPS it's more about the specific skill set. It impresses me the amount of teamwork and camaraderie these people have. You just don't find anyone you can rely on as much. It's also something my whole family has done, and enjoyed so it does feel like im missing out. I wouldn't serve for my country, but, for my family anyday.
Absolutely love the Haley Thorax, best plate carrier I think I’ve ever owned. You guys should try out the hitchhike for your flatpack though it’s a freakin huge quality of life upgrade.
I think it's important to note that the gap you mention between the PC and your sternum is likely due to the plates rather than the PC itself. Multi-curve plates conform to the shape of your body much better than single-curve plates do. For those that don't know, multi-curve plates have a bend in the plate in both the vertical and horizontal axis, while single-curve plates have a bend only in the vertical axis. The added bend in the horizontal axis brings the top of the plate much closer to the upper sternum area.
Those type of videos are terrible for showing the difference between quality of firearms. The difference between an Anderson and say a Radian isn't necessarily features (which a Radian clearly blows an Anderson out of the water), but in the quality of machining and QC. Sure, YOU might get an Anderson that runs great, but the risk of getting one that's out of spec is significantly higher than your more expensive brands. You only get that by looking at sample sizes in the thousands. It's the same for all firearms. You always get that guy who claims that his singular Taurus G2 or Canik runs great, but that doesn't dismiss the overall numbers of failures in comparison to better brands. Firearms are like computers or cars. You get what you pay for.
Going to Ukraine for humanitarian aid I was told there was alot of shelling and might be near the frontlines so this helps with the best plates carriers especially since i cant bring my guns over!! Yall are great people
Would love to see you guys test various standard issue body armor, both foreign and domestic, to see the difference between that stuff and commercial plate carriers.
I like the fact that you actually tested the plate carriers when it comes to doing movements. Also going over the price of each, how much it runs for with out all the bells and whistles and then with all the bells and whistles. I run a Crye Precision JPC 1.0 and is by far the most comfortable plate carrier I have ever used. Thank you guys for making this video. Maybe do a video on the best for your buck Mag Pouches.
ive had a condor since 2018. its held up well so far. never thought to remove the cummerbund. didnt want to attract too much attention lol. i do want a jpc though
I purchased a plate/soft body armor carrier on Ebay several years ago, $44. Purchased several more since. Use my soft armor and inserted Plates in them..Mag pouches for my rifle and pistol. Med pack.. All for total cost of material of pouches and packs. Less than $100. They have worked very well for me in the past 10 years.
I have a jpc 1.0. Great carrier! Light weight, allows for great mobility, and forces you to really only add essential pouches for gear. But as a 11b it’s sucks for load bearing and doesn’t allow space for all the things infantry makes you carry. I’ve made it work to carry 7 mags, ifak, 1 gp pouch one Nvg pouch for pvs 14’s and a radio pouch. If you like crye, the Cage PLate carrier and Avs are more suitable for load Bearing. Excited to get the k19 Agilite!
Guys you are the most down to earth people I have seen. I have been following you from gameology and now avidly watch your videos on shift fire. My life had been a little a downhill (now recovered) but your humour kept a smile on my face. Kudos to you guys. Hope when I visit west coast I can meet you guys.
Love the difference of experience between Israel and Cameron in a just a few short years. Also love the Haley Strategic cap Cameron is rocking. Absolute fan of the Firefly Brand.
Loving the content guys! Happy to see different and quality brands. Would be cool to see some videos about different optics, muzzle devices, battle belts etc. So many fun topics you guys can cover with rifles, accessories and gear. Keep it up!
One of the most durable plate carriers that I own is a fitness carrier made by Wolf Tactical that I use for workouts and as an actual vest.. It is designed for Crossfit and strength training so, and. It can handle 20 lb. fitness plates. This said, it is very well made and the stitching has held up well. It can be loaded with ar500/550 plates and trauma pads which eliminate plate slop/play. You can also swap out the cumberbund for a model that holds side plates and it will give you an all around good rig.
Great video guys. I'm a Navy vet but since Uncle Sam isn't fitting the bill anymore for gear, my budget is a little smaller. I have a few carriers, one of them being the condor vanquish. It looks quite a bit different than the one shown but I've never had an issue. I think between that and my LAPG Atlas, I actually like the condor better.
Excellent introduction for the plate carriers form cheap to expansive. Really easy to understand for people without relevant knowledge. I pretty enjoyed with the video.
I remember when I was 18 I told myself if I didn't get accepted into college, then I'd join the army. I got into college and regret never going the other route. I'm a 30 years old now from Ireland looking to get involved with more military / weapons training but Ireland's cut off point for enlisting is 26. Do you have any recommendations for "late bloomers" ? P.S. Found this channel by total accident and am absolutely loving it - Continue the great content guys - Much love and respect for what you've done and continue to do
come to the US. You can enlist up to the age of 35 or something like that in the US Army. Enlist on a six-year 11X contract, and make sure to get an Option 40 if you can. With that setup you’ll be able to go to RASP and hopefully get assigned to a Ranger regiment. Being in special operations will definitely give you the weapons training and experience you’re looking for.
Not sure what your education is in college, but as far as being within the EU, you aren't going to have much of any options unless you get hired in one of the few military contracting companies or you join LE. I went into contracting and then worked for the US gov and then later got an American citizenship, but again, I don't know what your skillsets are, so that may not be an option. I will say that if you become an American, you probably will get access to better weapons training as a civilian than what the military or LE (even SWAT here) provides. Our company gave our senior most members money to go take classes in America and then teach the lessons to guys back home, and that's where most of our training came from. Anything involving heavy ordinance or tracking and stuff we trained in Southern Asia. The only thing is that the time to immigrate to America was during Trump when they were looking for guys with skills (any skill, not just military oriented). Right now as a European you are going to have a lot of trouble immigrating here as they are specifically discriminating against white people coming in since we don't "vote the right way". Your only real hope at this point is get a tan and convert to islam or learn spanish. You think I'm joking, I'm not. I did intel dissemination side with the feds and that stuff actually works during the democrat administrations. As Enzo said the military is one way to get citizenship especially since everyone is leaving the military. You will only have issues joining if you were an expat before since that's a red flag unless you have clear proof of employment throughout your time out of country. Don't expect to do gun stuff in the military though, you can push for what you want but ultimately you don't really get to choose what you want to do. For one they want younger guys to get a return on their investment since training is expensive, and also you simply need to be super fit in order to be competitive in the first place. They really don't want you to be leaving after six years, they will only push you up if they think they will get at least 15 years or so out of you, so keep that in mind when you talk to them. This applies to contracting as well (again unless you have some kind of really obscure expertise such as aircraft mechanics, etc.) Or you can join the RIRA. lol
Love my JPC 2.0 but if I wanted more load bearing for side plates/ammo I would deff need to go to something like the AVS or SPC. The Haley looks nice, and I've loved my D3CRM, but I'm still unsure how it does once you load it down with side plates and more than 5 mags.
Definitely take a look at some of the stuff from First Spear if you guys do another. I've had a strandhogg for work for a number of years and its held up in some gnarly back country on poaching and boundary patrols.
Best company ever. Ever since lolEagle broke off from their quality production and the boys left, started making rad shit (especially Mayflower, nowadays Velocity Systems), been supporting them since a decade ago way before I even joined the military. Rocking my AAC in Manatee Grey with some aftermarket stuff from FirstSpear or other brands. Not even Crye or Tyr come close to FirstSpear level IMHO.
There are two markets for plate carriers: military/ LE and civilian. The civilian is for WROL events like Portland and Seattle a few summers ago. During civil unrest, something is better than nothing and Condor fills the value market well. Stepping up toward the professional level, the higher performing carriers fit the role. For myself, I run the Cree JPC 2.0. A great video showing the comparisons
At first it took me a while to figure out how to work the straps but once I did, this baby carrier is fantastic. It’s lightweight and easy to pack. I feel like the baby’s weight is distributed well. My back does not hurt after using it. My granddaughter seems very very happy in it. I’m able to get things done around the house and my wrists are saved. Highly recommend!
I have the cheap condor with expensive plates, and 3a side plates,,i dont wear it for a living so it suits me fine..if i was wearing armour daily it certainly spend the big bucks.
Thank you for sharing! Didn't even know that $60 carriers existed...or $2000 ones. My plates, front, back and sides plus carrier was just over $230. ✌️👉
Not airsoft or wish, Spartan™ Omega™ AR500 Body Armor and Spartan Shooters Cut Plate Carrier Package *SPECIAL with steel plates, when they were running a sale in 2018. Which runs about $300 today. Spartan does lots of sales, and they have other plates besides steel, but that's what I prefer.
Definitely not comparable to similar PCs in the same price range. I’m returning my K19, because it’s too “One Size Fits All” which is never a true one size fits all since that’s impossible. Too much material and too bulky for what it’s trying to achieve. Everything else is great in the modern approach they’re taking, but execution is poor. They need to narrow down the market they’re targeting or offer more options for more body types.
Well you should definitely try and compare them with the IDF plate carier from marom dolphin! Here we use the "Amran" model with an intresting back support system. i have made a review about one on my channel!
Can you make a full video on the break down of the Crye Precision AVS plate with all the things you added to make the exact build/ or for each plate carrier that would be dope! 🔥
Man. This is legit stuff. I'm leaving the marine corps soon so I recently purchased my own plate carrier since I have to turn mine in soon. I bought a beez combat systems plate carrier. It's been a bit and I haven't received it yet though
@@Token_Black_Guy go to r/tacticalgear on Reddit and just ask. Let them know your price range and what you want from a plate carrier. Like color, cumberbund size, what style plates you use (swimmer cut, shooter cut ect.), And what size plate you want to use
Why don't you keep it? All you need to is have someone break your car window where cameras are rolling and say they stole all your gear, make a police report. Do this in a POG camp to make them look bad for extra cool points with the boys. And you have 10,000 USD worth of free shit. Works every time.
Love my Thorax PC. I have the thicker cummerbund with their side release. I definitely like it, but I'm gonna grab the Axl equinox cummerbund. Also added the Axl structural shoulder pads to the Haley. Helped distribute the weight well when running DfNDR level 4 plates with a fairly full carrier. Also really like the the piggyback system for self accessing the flatpack. Very well thought out and way better for civilians over zip on panels that require a team mate or time and space to doff and don the plate carrier
I was torn between this and the Agilite K19, which most people are not familiar with Agilite (Israel Defense Force gear). I went with the Agilite K19. It's just as modular as the Crye Precision AVS, and with the same(similar) gear, plates etc., I'm at $1,700. I saved some money for a just about equally kitted platform.
That DFNDR QRC 2.0 is a slick carrier, especially for the price. But you can't ignore the price to performance of the Crye JPC, 1.0 or 2.0 (though, you can get the 2.0 for the same price nowadays.)
If you're not using professionally, and buying Condor, go with the Vanquish. Vest is like $70. Has velcro and near universal swiftclips, which I've connected multiple rigs including Haley, etc up front. It's pretty cusomizeable, you can make any plates fit well, straps are decent for sub $100, you can run slick, add cumbers, add rigs, etc.
I bought a condor MOPC when I was 13 for airsoft. It was decent and i still have it sitting in my closet. I took those little solid fabric things at the bottom of bins and some unused flooring pieces for a mock plate lol
Been binge watching Shift Fire videos, saw Cam and Izzy from Gamology - heck so glad to find ‘their’ own channel! I’m not in the military, not even an American for that matter, but have always been fascinated with anything military - and so glad to learn from these chaotic good vets! Also surprised that the videos on average have more views than the number of subscribers - GO SUBSCRIBE AND TURN ON THAT NOTIFICATION PEOPLE!
Great channel, seeing it for the 1st time, subbed. Wore the AVS on two Afghan tours. Actually, posted a video on it when I was bored 9 years ago. Keep up the great work guys!
I bought the condor mopc for that exact reason. It was cheap and i needed something asap. I'm 5'7" 190 pounds and it's definitely made for larger ppl. I can't tighten it enough. I also have the steel plates and this carrier makes them feel 10 pounds heavier. It's very loose. If you're not a large guy you'll hate this thing. Going to try to get $50 bucks for it here on base and pick up an Agilite K19 and some composite/hybrid plates. Buy once, cry once
You guys rock, keep the Shift Fire up! Love you both (no homo), you guys really know how to make someone smile whenever they’re having a bad day! Say, aren’t you guys also gonna try out the Crye Structural Plate Carrier (SPC)? That one is like $170 or $180, which is pretty inexpensive compared with the JPC, however, there are couple of things that make this plate carrier a whole lot better than the ordinary JPC. - Is as slick as the JPC - Has waterproof laminated fabric which gives it overall durability without compromise of it tearing itself apart somewhat like the stretchy part of the JPC - Has zip-on panels at the rear plate bag, along with laser-cut MOLLE - It’s skeletal cummerbund being lined with rigid plastic inserts is what gives it the best load bearing capability derived from the AVS and CPC
The SPC price is in line with the JPC 2.0. The SPC does not come with a cummerbund, once you add it the prices are essentially the same. Other than the really crappy cummerbund mounting method the SPC feels superior in every way I feel like.
So I don't see why everyone hates on Condor. I have been running a condor since 2015. And has outlasted any iotvs and issued plate Carriers that the Army had to issue
Try out the LBT 6094. It is a basic plate carrier, but it is also built with quality material. I enjoyed using it during my time in the Marines. Hopefully, you guys could also shed some light on that plate carrier.
For part 2 get a Defense Mechanisms. Its such common sense, intuitive design that it makes you wonder why everything else hasn't just done it like this
Just purchased the Shellback Tactical Banshee 3.0 which I would consider a premium plate carrier and possibly, possibly better than the Crye AVS. Its incredible. Would love to see it reviewed.
You should probably give a shot to the Warrior Assault System PC.. It's between medium and expensive but hell, they fit great and I really get used to them now, very modular and low profile. Also JPC friendly ! Simply awesome for breachers or ammo carriers
I run a jpc 2.0 with an avs1000 as the rear plate bag for my airsoft kit. I put light weight and breathable up on the priority list cause having to wear goggles sweat is an issue
Love how you guys give alot of info, especially your own opinions, which people can understand and think about if they choose to purchase one. Condor all the way. Rangers lead the way. De Oppresso Liber This we'll defend boys 🛡
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Nice video.:D what do you guys think is the best carrier for Law enforcement? for round about 250$ for normal patrol on duty?
@@markoswelt918 just get a jpc man they are gold standard in the industry
Are you fullas gonna make shift fire hoodies and long sleeve shirts?? I am in the southern hemisphere so we are heading into autumn so we are looking at cooler gear. Maybe some beanies. 😚
@@ingramjare we will for you my friend! Stay tuned
hey i wanna know what you guys think about 6 days in fallujah is a upcoming game that has a lot of controversy around it
I would love to see Cam and Israel do airsoft.
Stay tuned!
@@IsraelWright Pretty sure the guys from Savage Actual have expressed interest in doing Airsoft with you two! Hope an Airsoft collab is in store for the near future!
@@IsraelWright roger that.
Have them tag along with Jet Desert Fox!
Msw founder is former 2nd bat, too
At my unit all my buddies were asking why I dropped almost 1k on the crye avs until they tried it on with the exact same plates and loadout we normally run. Next thing yk they all show up a month later with an avs absolutely in love with it
AVS and JPC are 2 of my go-tos... that and the CPC, but good luck getting those without a government contract, apparently. I've never been able to buy one as a civilian, cause they're always sold out when I look. The kind of problems you run into when you retire, I guess 🤷♂️
@@lincolnpascual they do not require government contract to purchase, but they are usually sold out or have extended wait times. If anything try buying from a different website than crye because their products are sold everywhere
@@GooninRaccoonin oh i keep looking. Yeah I know they don't need contracts, but it definitely helps. The big boys don't need to shop around for deals, you know? I'm not in anymore, and definitely not hi-speed (hi drag, maybe... hard to run with one leg lol) anymore, so meh, it is what it is. I'm good with the kit I've got. Currently if I were to buy a new one, it would basically be an impulse buy. The closest I'm currently coming to combat is checking in and talking to my mom every Friday. Talk about stress inoculation.
@@lincolnpascual the avs killed my bank at first but made 40lbs loadouts feel like 20lbs which I fucking loved. Also one of my buddies who lost both his legs from an ied said he can atleast focus on just his arms at the gym and doesnt have to worry about leg day anymore. Goodluck anyways bro!
@@GooninRaccoonin shit when you put it that way, maybe i should get my other leg removed too 😂🤣😂🤣. My buddy lost his arm same time as my leg, now every time I need assistance putting my leg on and he's around, fucking smartass pops his arm off and hands it to me. A "helping hand". 😶😶😶😶
I once operated in the sandbox with all Condor gear. It was a bit more uncomfortable than my kit that got lost last minute (long story), but it wasn’t too bad. You don’t need tier one gear, but it sure is nice. FYI, they called me the Walmart warrior for a month!
A month?!? I'm afraid that is your nickname for life, sir. 😉
I bought a condor, just to wear around the house and carry the weight. Cause the crye I ordered is 4 months out.
We had a guy who bought all his own mags, carrier, and attachments for his carrier, he also paid the extra to get his own eotech setup, everyone made fun of him until they ended up clearing buildings and the eotech was a huge advantage over the ACOG
I used to buy condor gear at the PX all the time, they even built an actual condor store on base for us to purchase gear. I put a lot of years into some of my condor gear.
"Sending lead downrange while saving money, and living... not better.. just living."
Y'all should definitely test ballistic plates down at the range, do a little self determination of which plates are best.
What this comment wants: to see people get shot
What is really gonna happen: wrap watermelon with gun
I would also be interested in this but it is expensive. You'd need multiple plates to shoot from different companies and ammo isn't cheap either :/
I don't think they got the sufficient budget for that.
Throw in some RMA and hoplite plates, very good proven plates lvl4 and the RMA are fairly inexpensive, a little heavier than some others, but less cost with the same if not better protection.
Apex armor solutions can hook you up.
Love that all the comments are saying how much they enjoy this channel, or how they’ve been binging all your vids. I’m here just to say the same thing, you guys are awesome.
Also, since you’re doing merch, I think a patch would be sick. I’ve been looking to get into airsoft and id gladly rock a Shift Fire patch on my gear.
I'd put that patch on my dogs harness if my gf let's me :P
I second this, I’d rock their patch
Yea, make a patch for us to purch
It’s funny because everything they criticized the condor for not having , they gave credit to the crye because of the aftermarket attachments. Then utilized the ceramic plate saying that it wasn’t a lot of movement instead of the steel plate. But to each it’s own.
Agreed. Condors are disposable items but still very effective and usable. Cryes are an investment for professionals who spend an extended amount of time in their kit
@@jackl45 ironic that everyday infantry buy condor PC and pouches when in country
@@ghostinthesystem3872 they even sell condor chest rigs on base in the PX LMAO I use to always see combat arms guys in there.
@@Chicano_pistolero When I ended up moving last year I had a little kid neighbor who wanted to get into airsoft and I probably gave him about $6000 worth of guns and equipment
@@ghostinthesystem3872 A true hero. You must have a fat stack of chest candy
Another great video. Not just informational, complete fun content.
yep
You guys are fun, smart, and good at what you do, makes me wish i was able to serve. Thanks for everything guys
Why werent you allowed to serve if i may ask?
@@rokogudelj8714 I'll just say, things beyond my control.
@@ogreoftime4001 im sorry, not being able to serve because od somethig you dont cotrol sucks
You don’t have to be a pawn for the government and “serve”, to be “fun, smart, and good at what you do” as you say.
@@ironleeFPS it's more about the specific skill set. It impresses me the amount of teamwork and camaraderie these people have. You just don't find anyone you can rely on as much. It's also something my whole family has done, and enjoyed so it does feel like im missing out. I wouldn't serve for my country, but, for my family anyday.
Absolutely love the Haley Thorax, best plate carrier I think I’ve ever owned. You guys should try out the hitchhike for your flatpack though it’s a freakin huge quality of life upgrade.
Stuff's almost $400. No thanks
I think it's important to note that the gap you mention between the PC and your sternum is likely due to the plates rather than the PC itself. Multi-curve plates conform to the shape of your body much better than single-curve plates do. For those that don't know, multi-curve plates have a bend in the plate in both the vertical and horizontal axis, while single-curve plates have a bend only in the vertical axis. The added bend in the horizontal axis brings the top of the plate much closer to the upper sternum area.
Nice, my friend. 👍🏻
I'd love to see a similar video with AR-15's. Everything from Anderson to Knight's Armament would be a great overview.
Those type of videos are terrible for showing the difference between quality of firearms. The difference between an Anderson and say a Radian isn't necessarily features (which a Radian clearly blows an Anderson out of the water), but in the quality of machining and QC. Sure, YOU might get an Anderson that runs great, but the risk of getting one that's out of spec is significantly higher than your more expensive brands. You only get that by looking at sample sizes in the thousands. It's the same for all firearms. You always get that guy who claims that his singular Taurus G2 or Canik runs great, but that doesn't dismiss the overall numbers of failures in comparison to better brands. Firearms are like computers or cars. You get what you pay for.
So many great options! Part 2 should include spiritus systems Lv119, Trex arms Ac1, Velocity systems scarab, and Ferro concepts slickster.
I've been eyeballing the Shellback Tactical Banshee Elite 3.0 but it's good to see some more options 🤙
I’ve got their low-vis and rampage and they’re both really good for the price
It's a great plate carrier even solid from my experience. Also give lbt plate carriers a look as they also have a lot of good options
I have a banshee 2.0 I’m a fan
Going to Ukraine for humanitarian aid I was told there was alot of shelling and might be near the frontlines so this helps with the best plates carriers especially since i cant bring my guns over!! Yall are great people
Would love to see you guys test various standard issue body armor, both foreign and domestic, to see the difference between that stuff and commercial plate carriers.
shift fire is my new favorite TH-cam channel. keep up the great work guys. loving the content .
I'd love to see you guys test combat/tactical belts and the attachments that can come with those!
I like the fact that you actually tested the plate carriers when it comes to doing movements. Also going over the price of each, how much it runs for with out all the bells and whistles and then with all the bells and whistles. I run a Crye Precision JPC 1.0 and is by far the most comfortable plate carrier I have ever used. Thank you guys for making this video. Maybe do a video on the best for your buck Mag Pouches.
I feel like the Condor Gunner would have been a fairer comparison for the budget carrier, but this video was still super informative. Thanks guys!
I'm 20. Most guys my age here at home are into motorcycles and automotive and here I am into this. Proud to say that.
ive had a condor since 2018. its held up well so far. never thought to remove the cummerbund. didnt want to attract too much attention lol. i do want a jpc though
Great show, looking forward for more. Thanks Cam and Iz!
I purchased a plate/soft body armor carrier on Ebay several years ago, $44. Purchased several more since. Use my soft armor and inserted Plates in them..Mag pouches for my rifle and pistol. Med pack.. All for total cost of material of pouches and packs. Less than $100. They have worked very well for me in the past 10 years.
I have a jpc 1.0. Great carrier! Light weight, allows for great mobility, and forces you to really only add essential pouches for gear. But as a 11b it’s sucks for load bearing and doesn’t allow space for all the things infantry makes you carry. I’ve made it work to carry 7 mags, ifak, 1 gp pouch one Nvg pouch for pvs 14’s and a radio pouch. If you like crye, the Cage PLate carrier and Avs are more suitable for load Bearing. Excited to get the k19 Agilite!
Guys you are the most down to earth people I have seen. I have been following you from gameology and now avidly watch your videos on shift fire. My life had been a little a downhill (now recovered) but your humour kept a smile on my face. Kudos to you guys. Hope when I visit west coast I can meet you guys.
Appreciate the low ego - positive vibe thing. Hard to find these days.
Keep up the great work !
Love the difference of experience between Israel and Cameron in a just a few short years. Also love the Haley Strategic cap Cameron is rocking. Absolute fan of the Firefly Brand.
*Dragonfly brand 😉👊🏽
Of course. What was I thinking?
Great video, sadly I live in Australia where it is illegal for the population to own ballistic plates.
Loving the content guys! Happy to see different and quality brands. Would be cool to see some videos about different optics, muzzle devices, battle belts etc. So many fun topics you guys can cover with rifles, accessories and gear. Keep it up!
I've been digging and binging this channel as a whole. Love the content so much guys
One of the most durable plate carriers that I own is a fitness carrier made by Wolf Tactical that I use for workouts and as an actual vest.. It is designed for Crossfit and strength training so, and. It can handle 20 lb. fitness plates. This said, it is very well made and the stitching has held up well. It can be loaded with ar500/550 plates and trauma pads which eliminate plate slop/play. You can also swap out the cumberbund for a model that holds side plates and it will give you an all around good rig.
Great video guys. I'm a Navy vet but since Uncle Sam isn't fitting the bill anymore for gear, my budget is a little smaller. I have a few carriers, one of them being the condor vanquish. It looks quite a bit different than the one shown but I've never had an issue. I think between that and my LAPG Atlas, I actually like the condor better.
I have an Warrior Assault System LPC Low Profile Carrier with Large Sides and I love it
Excellent introduction for the plate carriers form cheap to expansive.
Really easy to understand for people without relevant knowledge.
I pretty enjoyed with the video.
I remember when I was 18 I told myself if I didn't get accepted into college, then I'd join the army. I got into college and regret never going the other route. I'm a 30 years old now from Ireland looking to get involved with more military / weapons training but Ireland's cut off point for enlisting is 26. Do you have any recommendations for "late bloomers" ?
P.S. Found this channel by total accident and am absolutely loving it - Continue the great content guys - Much love and respect for what you've done and continue to do
come to the US. You can enlist up to the age of 35 or something like that in the US Army. Enlist on a six-year 11X contract, and make sure to get an Option 40 if you can. With that setup you’ll be able to go to RASP and hopefully get assigned to a Ranger regiment. Being in special operations will definitely give you the weapons training and experience you’re looking for.
Not sure what your education is in college, but as far as being within the EU, you aren't going to have much of any options unless you get hired in one of the few military contracting companies or you join LE. I went into contracting and then worked for the US gov and then later got an American citizenship, but again, I don't know what your skillsets are, so that may not be an option. I will say that if you become an American, you probably will get access to better weapons training as a civilian than what the military or LE (even SWAT here) provides. Our company gave our senior most members money to go take classes in America and then teach the lessons to guys back home, and that's where most of our training came from. Anything involving heavy ordinance or tracking and stuff we trained in Southern Asia.
The only thing is that the time to immigrate to America was during Trump when they were looking for guys with skills (any skill, not just military oriented). Right now as a European you are going to have a lot of trouble immigrating here as they are specifically discriminating against white people coming in since we don't "vote the right way". Your only real hope at this point is get a tan and convert to islam or learn spanish. You think I'm joking, I'm not. I did intel dissemination side with the feds and that stuff actually works during the democrat administrations. As Enzo said the military is one way to get citizenship especially since everyone is leaving the military. You will only have issues joining if you were an expat before since that's a red flag unless you have clear proof of employment throughout your time out of country. Don't expect to do gun stuff in the military though, you can push for what you want but ultimately you don't really get to choose what you want to do. For one they want younger guys to get a return on their investment since training is expensive, and also you simply need to be super fit in order to be competitive in the first place. They really don't want you to be leaving after six years, they will only push you up if they think they will get at least 15 years or so out of you, so keep that in mind when you talk to them. This applies to contracting as well (again unless you have some kind of really obscure expertise such as aircraft mechanics, etc.)
Or you can join the RIRA. lol
Great video guys! 🔥
Love my JPC 2.0 but if I wanted more load bearing for side plates/ammo I would deff need to go to something like the AVS or SPC. The Haley looks nice, and I've loved my D3CRM, but I'm still unsure how it does once you load it down with side plates and more than 5 mags.
Love these more in depth videos on tactical gear. Keep them coming!
Definitely take a look at some of the stuff from First Spear if you guys do another. I've had a strandhogg for work for a number of years and its held up in some gnarly back country on poaching and boundary patrols.
Best company ever. Ever since lolEagle broke off from their quality production and the boys left, started making rad shit (especially Mayflower, nowadays Velocity Systems), been supporting them since a decade ago way before I even joined the military.
Rocking my AAC in Manatee Grey with some aftermarket stuff from FirstSpear or other brands. Not even Crye or Tyr come close to FirstSpear level IMHO.
This content just keeps getting better and better! Well done guys
There are two markets for plate carriers: military/ LE and civilian. The civilian is for WROL events like Portland and Seattle a few summers ago. During civil unrest, something is better than nothing and Condor fills the value market well. Stepping up toward the professional level, the higher performing carriers fit the role. For myself, I run the Cree JPC 2.0. A great video showing the comparisons
At first it took me a while to figure out how to work the straps but once I did, this baby carrier is fantastic. It’s lightweight and easy to pack. I feel like the baby’s weight is distributed well. My back does not hurt after using it. My granddaughter seems very very happy in it. I’m able to get things done around the house and my wrists are saved. Highly recommend!
I have the cheap condor with expensive plates, and 3a side plates,,i dont wear it for a living so it suits me fine..if i was wearing armour daily it certainly spend the big bucks.
Glad to see the AVS was at the top of the list. I’m super happy with mine.
Thank you for sharing!
Didn't even know that $60 carriers existed...or $2000 ones. My plates, front, back and sides plus carrier was just over $230.
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Airsoft? Wish? Even some crappy battlesteel plates will run you around $200
you can buy a knockoff jpc 1.0 for $40 on amazon but it doesnt come with armor plates.
Not airsoft or wish, Spartan™ Omega™ AR500 Body Armor and Spartan Shooters Cut Plate Carrier Package *SPECIAL with steel plates, when they were running a sale in 2018. Which runs about $300 today.
Spartan does lots of sales, and they have other plates besides steel, but that's what I prefer.
@@KeterMalkuth just don't get steel. E Z.
Please get ceramics. Please. Lighter and better.
If you decide to do another war wallet with plate carriers, try adding the agilite k19 to the lineup. I think you guys would enjoy it
Definitely not comparable to similar PCs in the same price range. I’m returning my K19, because it’s too “One Size Fits All” which is never a true one size fits all since that’s impossible. Too much material and too bulky for what it’s trying to achieve. Everything else is great in the modern approach they’re taking, but execution is poor. They need to narrow down the market they’re targeting or offer more options for more body types.
Great video appreciate the condor references which is what I acquired. Glad to know more bout better carriers! Y’all are doin great stuff keep it up!
Well you should definitely try and compare them with the IDF plate carier from marom dolphin! Here we use the "Amran" model with an intresting back support system. i have made a review about one on my channel!
Can you make a full video on the break down of the Crye Precision AVS plate with all the things you added to make the exact build/ or for each plate carrier that would be dope! 🔥
Man. This is legit stuff. I'm leaving the marine corps soon so I recently purchased my own plate carrier since I have to turn mine in soon. I bought a beez combat systems plate carrier. It's been a bit and I haven't received it yet though
I was thinking about a mepc but I'm not liking the cumberbund
@@Token_Black_Guy go to r/tacticalgear on Reddit and just ask. Let them know your price range and what you want from a plate carrier. Like color, cumberbund size, what style plates you use (swimmer cut, shooter cut ect.), And what size plate you want to use
Beez takes time, took about 6 weeks for me to my order
@@coreys7219 wow. I ordered it 3 weeks ago but it's coming Tuesday. I wonder why they take a minute.
Why don't you keep it? All you need to is have someone break your car window where cameras are rolling and say they stole all your gear, make a police report. Do this in a POG camp to make them look bad for extra cool points with the boys. And you have 10,000 USD worth of free shit. Works every time.
Green Berets always seem so humble and chill people, I say this because Tu from ronin tactics is pretty chill as well.
The agilite k19 plate carrier is amazing!!
It was my carrier in the military
Love my Thorax PC. I have the thicker cummerbund with their side release. I definitely like it, but I'm gonna grab the Axl equinox cummerbund. Also added the Axl structural shoulder pads to the Haley. Helped distribute the weight well when running DfNDR level 4 plates with a fairly full carrier. Also really like the the piggyback system for self accessing the flatpack. Very well thought out and way better for civilians over zip on panels that require a team mate or time and space to doff and don the plate carrier
I was torn between this and the Agilite K19, which most people are not familiar with Agilite (Israel Defense Force gear). I went with the Agilite K19. It's just as modular as the Crye Precision AVS, and with the same(similar) gear, plates etc., I'm at $1,700. I saved some money for a just about equally kitted platform.
That DFNDR QRC 2.0 is a slick carrier, especially for the price. But you can't ignore the price to performance of the Crye JPC, 1.0 or 2.0 (though, you can get the 2.0 for the same price nowadays.)
I miss my AVS, got the FS AAC now. And it's nothing compared to the AVS, it's exactly what you said. It's hugging you.
I love the jpc the most comfortable one I own is the agilite k19 plate carrier I believe that one should have been in the mix
If you're not using professionally, and buying Condor, go with the Vanquish. Vest is like $70. Has velcro and near universal swiftclips, which I've connected multiple rigs including Haley, etc up front. It's pretty cusomizeable, you can make any plates fit well, straps are decent for sub $100, you can run slick, add cumbers, add rigs, etc.
I bought a condor MOPC when I was 13 for airsoft. It was decent and i still have it sitting in my closet. I took those little solid fabric things at the bottom of bins and some unused flooring pieces for a mock plate lol
Been binge watching Shift Fire videos, saw Cam and Izzy from Gamology - heck so glad to find ‘their’ own channel!
I’m not in the military, not even an American for that matter, but have always been fascinated with anything military - and so glad to learn from these chaotic good vets!
Also surprised that the videos on average have more views than the number of subscribers - GO SUBSCRIBE AND TURN ON THAT NOTIFICATION PEOPLE!
Very cool video, I don't need or want a plate carrier but now I am a little bit more aware of what to look for if that changes.
Great channel, seeing it for the 1st time, subbed. Wore the AVS on two Afghan tours. Actually, posted a video on it when I was bored 9 years ago. Keep up the great work guys!
The Agilite K19 has been really nice. Highly recommended
15:06 " Because I am vertically challenged, Because I'm fun size! " LMAO
I'd really like to see what you guys thing of the T-Rex Arms AC1 carrier. Bit more of a minimalist setup but I think you'd be interested nonetheless.
I bought the condor mopc for that exact reason. It was cheap and i needed something asap. I'm 5'7" 190 pounds and it's definitely made for larger ppl. I can't tighten it enough. I also have the steel plates and this carrier makes them feel 10 pounds heavier. It's very loose. If you're not a large guy you'll hate this thing. Going to try to get $50 bucks for it here on base and pick up an Agilite K19 and some composite/hybrid plates. Buy once, cry once
Prioritize ditching those steel plates ASAP.
A set of Hesco L210s will feel like night and day and they won't send shrapnel into your jaw.
@[confused channel] at the time i had a newborn and didn't want to spend too much on ny first plates. Definitely ditching them now.
You guys rock, keep the Shift Fire up! Love you both (no homo), you guys really know how to make someone smile whenever they’re having a bad day!
Say, aren’t you guys also gonna try out the Crye Structural Plate Carrier (SPC)? That one is like $170 or $180, which is pretty inexpensive compared with the JPC, however, there are couple of things that make this plate carrier a whole lot better than the ordinary JPC.
- Is as slick as the JPC
- Has waterproof laminated fabric which gives it overall durability without compromise of it tearing itself apart somewhat like the stretchy part of the JPC
- Has zip-on panels at the rear plate bag, along with laser-cut MOLLE
- It’s skeletal cummerbund being lined with rigid plastic inserts is what gives it the best load bearing capability derived from the AVS and CPC
The SPC price is in line with the JPC 2.0. The SPC does not come with a cummerbund, once you add it the prices are essentially the same. Other than the really crappy cummerbund mounting method the SPC feels superior in every way I feel like.
@@Fluffyxx Pretty much you hit the mark better on this, but I’m glad someone agrees with me too, can’t wait to rock that one someday.
So I don't see why everyone hates on Condor. I have been running a condor since 2015. And has outlasted any iotvs and issued plate Carriers that the Army had to issue
Try out the LBT 6094.
It is a basic plate carrier, but it is also built with quality material. I enjoyed using it during my time in the Marines. Hopefully, you guys could also shed some light on that plate carrier.
One thing super important you guys should include in this video: full set of standards issues plate carrier eg iotv
If you get some back and forth movement in your plate carrier pouch, put a flat trauma kit behind the plate.
man, this channel keeps getting better and better.
i bit the bullet on a pair of first spear quick release tubes for my tactec because of the whole velcro issue, best thing i ever did for that thing
For part 2 get a Defense Mechanisms. Its such common sense, intuitive design that it makes you wonder why everything else hasn't just done it like this
Thanks for the content- ive been looking for something like this for a little while- keep up the great work!
Saw u guys from gameology and then found your channel and subscribed love the content!
It would be cool if y'all could do a video on the necessities to a battle rifles such as attachments and things you would bring with you in your kit
15:49 Pay attention to how southern Cameron sounds when he says the word "team."
The video game jump sound effect was the icing on the cake for this video 👍🏻😂😂
This is my first time watching your channel and already really liking it
Just purchased the Shellback Tactical Banshee 3.0 which I would consider a premium plate carrier and possibly, possibly better than the Crye AVS. Its incredible. Would love to see it reviewed.
First time seeing your channel, great video! Would love to see you review the Agilite K19 plate carrier in a future video!
Outstanding! PC are like rifles, once you build one, it never ends. However, Buy Once Cry Once. Slick, JPC are excellent starts.
SHWEEEET!!! Glad to see y'all covering this.
You should check out Agilites K19 sometime too. Honestly one of my favorites, and imo, the best out there right now.
One of the things I really enjoy about your guys channel is I love every episode and it's something I can share and watch with my bf.
Spiritus Systems LV119 and the T-Rex Arms AC1 would be great additions to this list.
You should probably give a shot to the Warrior Assault System PC.. It's between medium and expensive but hell, they fit great and I really get used to them now, very modular and low profile. Also JPC friendly ! Simply awesome for breachers or ammo carriers
Condor makes some quality stuff still, in fact a lot of their gear is contracted by our military.
Great video. New to it all. Glad to see content like this is still allowed. Cheers. This video brought me here, now subscribed
I would say condor is pretty decent for what you pay for, it’s good for low intensity stuff like police work.
Would've been cool to see some valkyrie carriers, but other than that I love every video and the podcast, pure excellence
I run a jpc 2.0 with an avs1000 as the rear plate bag for my airsoft kit. I put light weight and breathable up on the priority list cause having to wear goggles sweat is an issue
Love how you guys give alot of info, especially your own opinions, which people can understand and think about if they choose to purchase one. Condor all the way. Rangers lead the way. De Oppresso Liber
This we'll defend boys 🛡
My man Israel.. right there with you rockin that dad bod
Hell yeah, I wanna see this channel explode! This is great stuff. Let's gooooooooooooooooooo
Safelite makes FRAS coupled with soft armor that stops up to 308 and 7.62X54R
Great video! I’d be curious to hear your thoughts on the AC1.
Will be checking out your channel more for sure.
Thanks to Israel for showing the plate carriers all the way around🤙