Greetings Captain. Fellow PBS Kids enjoyer from my youth here. I'd like to contribute to the discussion here with some lost media for the station I'm familiar with - Bill Nye The Science Guy. Back in the 90s, my folks taped like 9 assorted episodes of the show (which ran on our local PBS provider, WNED) for me onto a VHS. We didn't have anything beyond basic cable, so I watched the hell out of these 9 episodes (Do It Yourself Science, Populations, Locomotion, Earthquakes, Measurement, Patterns, Pollution Solutions, Space Exploration, and Architecture), and got to know them pretty damn well. However, the versions that are offered for home distribution, from VHS to DVD to even streaming, are a bit different than the broadcast versions, seeming to be about 3 - 5 minutes shorter on the whole for each of them. Entire sequences are either removed or heavily cut down, music is changed, interviews and experiments are removed, even opening bits introducing the episode are altered. (For example, in the broadcast version of Earthquakes, Bill balances a heavy glass ball on a seesaw in Nye Labs, and comments how it'll stay there just fine providing nothing bad happens like an earthquake. Que earthquake. In the only version that seems to exist out there, Bill is seen mixing two chemicals and making a similar comment about how it's mixed perfectly and went great, providing nothing crazy like an earthquake happens. Que earthquake. There's many such examples like this for many of the episodes.). And entire experiments can end up being removed. Like in the Do It Yourself Science episode, an entire experiment kids are encouraged to try with their parents at home, the classic "baking soda and vinegar volcano" is just cut, same with another about how to make a periscope with mirrors and an old milk carton. Now, I understand this is largely likely due to copyright and distribution rights management. When the show hit Netflix years back, many complained that a scene in one of the episodes regarding gender was altered, and accused Bill or Netflix of altering the content of the show as a form of censorship - but the actual reason, and by extension I think the reason that nearly every episode is missing a few minutes of footage, was due to rights management issues. Getting a hold of actors/actresses involved in scenes to get permission for home and digital distribution, as well as copyrighted music (Populations used "Tiptoe Through The Tulips" by Tiny Tim, and Patterns used "Turn, Turn, Turn" by The Birds - and no I'm not referring to the parody songs or anything, those survived untouched actually) - so instead of going through the bullshit, they just cut them instead. Which leaves me in a difficult spot. This tape I have from my childhood, with all my proof on it, I've had a lot of difficulty finding. It's supposedly hopefully somewhere in my parents' basement, but it may have been thrown away against my will without my knowledge. Which would be a shame because aside from a few scant clips of some alternate opening sequences, there's next to no evidence or proof out there to back up my claims, and I feel that I'm the only person who cares this much and knows the things I do about these things and these couple of episodes - and I gave you the short version! So if this is of any form of interest to you or know anyone to point me to or anyone that can help or anything whatsoever, it'd be appreciated. This is a huge part of my childhood that's pretty much inaccessible, since very few people seem to recall these specific broadcast versions, especially because I believe they never hit store shelves in that form. SOME of these scenes are available as "bonus footage" on the DVD, but it's not all of them, they are separated from the episode, and scenes edited for music copyright are not among them. Here's a good example, the content shown here was part of the episode in the television version, but was removed and made as a bonus in home releases. And in none of these cases do they cover all of it, but it's proof positive that this stuff exists - th-cam.com/video/KIkv8wlxJ_k/w-d-xo.htmlsi=xukl3ZvxUCgI9QN6 Thanks to anyone who takes any time whatsoever to read this too. I've been trying to get to the bottom of this and hopefully maybe see those uncut unaltered episodes some day. It's really important to me. Here's hoping maybe a comment like this in the right place might stir up enough discussion among the right people. Cheers, thanks for your time and any possible response.
You mean like the Statue of Liberty and a tugboat are dancing on the water with the New York City on the street in the beginning of the Sesame Street credits after Telly slides down the slide is before Gina is kissing Oscar the grouch on the coming soon on Sesame Street bumper at the end of 3496 from season 27 in 1997?
I feel like mr rogers would scream at the sight of what kids are watching today on youtube and on the internet . I feel like parents aren’t utilizing pbs’s gigantic positive influence anymore for some reason. It did on me growing up!
You mean like the JokeZone segment of a Cinderella’s football joke comes after starting October 7th on KidZone is before kids drawing a KidZone logo on the sidewalk with red and blue chalk at the end of Barney & friends: our furry feathered fishy friends and camera safari in 1996 before mister Rogers neighborhood in 1996 just like camera safari?
What about the We Are Family & Kids For Character music videos, which show characters respecting, appreciating & even celebrating each other regardless of what network/broadcasting program they come from (which is my personal beef with them nowadays)?
You mean like the magic school bus reran on KidZone from 1995-1998 just like the Chuck’e cheeses logo in the beginning and the end of Barney & friends: ship ahoy in 1996 and BaBar reran on CBC and family channel 1990-1992 just like the Chevrolet k2500 single cab with the z71 stickers on the sides of the bed and the black word Chevrolet outlined in tan in a black strip on the tailgate?
Hey man solid video, was hoping you would cover PBS lost media at some point as I frequently cover lost media myself on my channel, In fact I have done a video on PBS Kids lost media myself a while back. Anyways keep up the good work!!
15 of these mister Rogers neighborhood episodes from 1995 have the JokeZone segment of a Cinderella’s football joke at the end of 15 Barney & friends season 3 episodes from the premiere in 1996 and 5 of these lamb chop’s play-along episodes from the season 3 finale just have the JokeZone segment of a silly person’s shoe joke at the end of 5 Barney & friends season 3 episodes from the finale in 1996!
Another piece of lost media for Sesame Street are the four additional test pilots that followed the first one. Also, Mister Rogers is missing its Springtime special from 1978(?) as well as its preceding "Misterogers" 1960s TV series before the national version we all know began airing in 1968.
You mean like a 1969-1993 rerun of mister Rogers neighborhood: 0001-1655 on NET and PBS before a 1993-2002 rerun of mister Rogers neighborhood: 1656-1765 on KidZone and PBS kids?
Idk if this counts as lost media but me my sister vividly remember this one ad on pbs kids that we saw as a kid that scared us so bad, it was an ad that had white background with (read-a-roo) the mascot for pbs kids sitting on the right reading a book, there was no sound like literally no sound you could hear the grain of the old tvs ,there was black text about or next to the mascot that said “be sure to hug your little ones tighter tonight.” It scared us bc it was so quiet and only aired at night I think it was aired the same night as the sandy hook shooting and I remember it only being aired again one other time. Ive never been able to track it down
Mr. Rogers also had two different specials that aired in prime time, both on the devastating topic of assassination. The 1968 one made in response to RFK is the most well-known example, even though the special in it's entirety is not available for public viewing. But there was an even more obscure special from 1981 made in response to the death of John Lennon, attempt on Ronald Reagan, the Pope, etc. Footage of Rogers talking to viewers from that special is posted on this site, but the entire rest of the special including it's bizarre NOM story (about an apparently anthropomorphic tree known only as "the Walking Talking Tree" killing another tree) remains lost. A Neighborhood fan named Degeneration X The Owl once had a detailed description of the special.
You mean like the JokeZone segment of a Cinderella’s football joke comes after starting October 7th on KidZone is before kids drawing a KidZone logo on the sidewalk with red and blue chalk at the end of Barney & friends: our furry feathered fishy friends and camera safari in 1996 before mister Rogers neighborhood in 1996 just like camera safari?
My home state has a mostly found lost show called "My Bedbugs", which you might recognize as the inspiration behind Oogieloves (Yes, THE Oogieloves that almost won Worst Picture at the Razzies.). It's not a very good show, but it's noteworthy for being Michigan's main controbution to PBS Kids. Though, trust me when I say, there are better shows from Michigan on PBS that are more worth watching than My Bedbugs, such as Under the Radar, and maybe catching an archive of Quizbusters episodes.
You mean like from mister Rogers neighborhood: noisy and quiet 1736 to mister Rogers celebrates the arts 1765 reran on PBS kids from 2000-2002 just like NesQuik cereal at the grocery store?
You mean like the JokeZone segment of a silly person’s shoe joke comes after a BloopyCise song of Yankee Doodle is before kids drawing a KidZone logo on the sidewalk with red and blue chalk at the end of Barney & friends: ship ahoy, hats off to BJ, and up we go in 1996 before lamb chop’s play-along in 1996 just like ship ahoy?
You mean like the corporation is riding on a black Honda motorcycle and a green Polaris 4 wheeler on the street between the little yellow flowers, big white flowers, and big yellow flowers on the grass with a beanstalk at the service?
I think there is at least one childhood crush from any live-action PBS Kids series, whether Zoom or Fetch! or Design Squad. Just so long as the crush hasn't lasted until adulthood...
Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego had a lost episode. Lynne Thigpen was out sick so Greg Lee had to fill in for her, and the host of Nickelodeon’s Double Dare series hosted the show. During the map segment, a kid got hurt while running across the map. It was a disaster. It is said that episode aired once, but never again, or maybe it never aired after all. Or maybe the whole thing was a fake. I don’t know. See what you can do with that, Captain Rutledge.
Greetings Captain. Fellow PBS Kids enjoyer from my youth here. I'd like to contribute to the discussion here with some lost media for the station I'm familiar with - Bill Nye The Science Guy.
Back in the 90s, my folks taped like 9 assorted episodes of the show (which ran on our local PBS provider, WNED) for me onto a VHS. We didn't have anything beyond basic cable, so I watched the hell out of these 9 episodes (Do It Yourself Science, Populations, Locomotion, Earthquakes, Measurement, Patterns, Pollution Solutions, Space Exploration, and Architecture), and got to know them pretty damn well.
However, the versions that are offered for home distribution, from VHS to DVD to even streaming, are a bit different than the broadcast versions, seeming to be about 3 - 5 minutes shorter on the whole for each of them. Entire sequences are either removed or heavily cut down, music is changed, interviews and experiments are removed, even opening bits introducing the episode are altered. (For example, in the broadcast version of Earthquakes, Bill balances a heavy glass ball on a seesaw in Nye Labs, and comments how it'll stay there just fine providing nothing bad happens like an earthquake. Que earthquake. In the only version that seems to exist out there, Bill is seen mixing two chemicals and making a similar comment about how it's mixed perfectly and went great, providing nothing crazy like an earthquake happens. Que earthquake. There's many such examples like this for many of the episodes.). And entire experiments can end up being removed. Like in the Do It Yourself Science episode, an entire experiment kids are encouraged to try with their parents at home, the classic "baking soda and vinegar volcano" is just cut, same with another about how to make a periscope with mirrors and an old milk carton.
Now, I understand this is largely likely due to copyright and distribution rights management. When the show hit Netflix years back, many complained that a scene in one of the episodes regarding gender was altered, and accused Bill or Netflix of altering the content of the show as a form of censorship - but the actual reason, and by extension I think the reason that nearly every episode is missing a few minutes of footage, was due to rights management issues. Getting a hold of actors/actresses involved in scenes to get permission for home and digital distribution, as well as copyrighted music (Populations used "Tiptoe Through The Tulips" by Tiny Tim, and Patterns used "Turn, Turn, Turn" by The Birds - and no I'm not referring to the parody songs or anything, those survived untouched actually) - so instead of going through the bullshit, they just cut them instead.
Which leaves me in a difficult spot. This tape I have from my childhood, with all my proof on it, I've had a lot of difficulty finding. It's supposedly hopefully somewhere in my parents' basement, but it may have been thrown away against my will without my knowledge. Which would be a shame because aside from a few scant clips of some alternate opening sequences, there's next to no evidence or proof out there to back up my claims, and I feel that I'm the only person who cares this much and knows the things I do about these things and these couple of episodes - and I gave you the short version!
So if this is of any form of interest to you or know anyone to point me to or anyone that can help or anything whatsoever, it'd be appreciated. This is a huge part of my childhood that's pretty much inaccessible, since very few people seem to recall these specific broadcast versions, especially because I believe they never hit store shelves in that form.
SOME of these scenes are available as "bonus footage" on the DVD, but it's not all of them, they are separated from the episode, and scenes edited for music copyright are not among them. Here's a good example, the content shown here was part of the episode in the television version, but was removed and made as a bonus in home releases. And in none of these cases do they cover all of it, but it's proof positive that this stuff exists - th-cam.com/video/KIkv8wlxJ_k/w-d-xo.htmlsi=xukl3ZvxUCgI9QN6
Thanks to anyone who takes any time whatsoever to read this too. I've been trying to get to the bottom of this and hopefully maybe see those uncut unaltered episodes some day. It's really important to me. Here's hoping maybe a comment like this in the right place might stir up enough discussion among the right people.
Cheers, thanks for your time and any possible response.
You mean like KidZone kid of the day was on prairie public TV’s KidZone from August 30 1993 to July 4 1997?
Good luck from a fellow PBS junkie!!
I love your content, and Zoom (1999-2005) is celebrating its big 25th anniversary next year.
so exciting.
Same.
Little pilot falling down in 9 seconds on prairie public TV’s KidZone from September 6 1999 to August 30 2002!
Puzzle Place, Kratts’ Creatures and Lamb Chops I remember watching on pbs when I was small, and I enjoyed every one of them.
You mean like the JokeZone on prairie public TV’s KidZone from September 4 1995 to November 15 1999?
Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
You mean like the Statue of Liberty and a tugboat are dancing on the water with the New York City on the street in the beginning of the Sesame Street credits after Telly slides down the slide is before Gina is kissing Oscar the grouch on the coming soon on Sesame Street bumper at the end of 3496 from season 27 in 1997?
Why hasn’t PBS Kids became a Phenomenal appreciation in this one horse continent of North America anymore?!
I feel like mr rogers would scream at the sight of what kids are watching today on youtube and on the internet . I feel like parents aren’t utilizing pbs’s gigantic positive influence anymore for some reason. It did on me growing up!
You mean like the JokeZone segment of a Cinderella’s football joke comes after starting October 7th on KidZone is before kids drawing a KidZone logo on the sidewalk with red and blue chalk at the end of Barney & friends: our furry feathered fishy friends and camera safari in 1996 before mister Rogers neighborhood in 1996 just like camera safari?
What about the We Are Family & Kids For Character music videos, which show characters respecting, appreciating & even celebrating each other regardless of what network/broadcasting program they come from (which is my personal beef with them nowadays)?
You mean like the magic school bus reran on KidZone from 1995-1998 just like the Chuck’e cheeses logo in the beginning and the end of Barney & friends: ship ahoy in 1996 and BaBar reran on CBC and family channel 1990-1992 just like the Chevrolet k2500 single cab with the z71 stickers on the sides of the bed and the black word Chevrolet outlined in tan in a black strip on the tailgate?
Hey man solid video, was hoping you would cover PBS lost media at some point as I frequently cover lost media myself on my channel, In fact I have done a video on PBS Kids lost media myself a while back. Anyways keep up the good work!!
I saw your video while getting ideas for this one. Best wishes to you as well.
15 of these mister Rogers neighborhood episodes from 1995 have the JokeZone segment of a Cinderella’s football joke at the end of 15 Barney & friends season 3 episodes from the premiere in 1996 and 5 of these lamb chop’s play-along episodes from the season 3 finale just have the JokeZone segment of a silly person’s shoe joke at the end of 5 Barney & friends season 3 episodes from the finale in 1996!
Another piece of lost media for Sesame Street are the four additional test pilots that followed the first one. Also, Mister Rogers is missing its Springtime special from 1978(?) as well as its preceding "Misterogers" 1960s TV series before the national version we all know began airing in 1968.
I knew about Misterogers, but I decided not to include it on the list since it never aired on NET/PBS.
You mean like a 1969-1993 rerun of mister Rogers neighborhood: 0001-1655 on NET and PBS before a 1993-2002 rerun of mister Rogers neighborhood: 1656-1765 on KidZone and PBS kids?
I really hope you make a part 2 there's actually more PBS kids lost media like someday School Ricky's room and more
Idk if this counts as lost media but me my sister vividly remember this one ad on pbs kids that we saw as a kid that scared us so bad, it was an ad that had white background with (read-a-roo) the mascot for pbs kids sitting on the right reading a book, there was no sound like literally no sound you could hear the grain of the old tvs ,there was black text about or next to the mascot that said “be sure to hug your little ones tighter tonight.” It scared us bc it was so quiet and only aired at night I think it was aired the same night as the sandy hook shooting and I remember it only being aired again one other time. Ive never been able to track it down
I'd like to redirect you to Peeebs. He has quite a few lost station idents, and may have just the item you're looking for: www.youtube.com/@itspeeebs
You mean like Sesame Street 4026 reran on PBS kids in 2003?
the Puzzle Place and Zoom was one of my favorites! I don't know if the Complete Series of the Puzzle Place gets released on DVD someday or not!
If it does, it'll be a small miracle.
You mean like a little cookie jar entertainment VCD release just like WimZie’s house?
23:28/23:46 Now is this meant to be the storyboards from the episode "Woodpecker Picks A Place" (or at the very least, an early version of it)?
Possibly. I found them on the Lost Media Wiki.
You mean like woody was at the character parade in North Dakota on a Lyrick studios DVD of kids for character?
Mr. Rogers also had two different specials that aired in prime time, both on the devastating topic of assassination.
The 1968 one made in response to RFK is the most well-known example, even though the special in it's entirety is not available for public viewing.
But there was an even more obscure special from 1981 made in response to the death of John Lennon, attempt on Ronald Reagan, the Pope, etc. Footage of Rogers talking to viewers from that special is posted on this site, but the entire rest of the special including it's bizarre NOM story (about an apparently anthropomorphic tree known only as "the Walking Talking Tree" killing another tree) remains lost.
A Neighborhood fan named Degeneration X The Owl once had a detailed description of the special.
You mean like the JokeZone segment of a Cinderella’s football joke comes after starting October 7th on KidZone is before kids drawing a KidZone logo on the sidewalk with red and blue chalk at the end of Barney & friends: our furry feathered fishy friends and camera safari in 1996 before mister Rogers neighborhood in 1996 just like camera safari?
My home state has a mostly found lost show called "My Bedbugs", which you might recognize as the inspiration behind Oogieloves (Yes, THE Oogieloves that almost won Worst Picture at the Razzies.). It's not a very good show, but it's noteworthy for being Michigan's main controbution to PBS Kids. Though, trust me when I say, there are better shows from Michigan on PBS that are more worth watching than My Bedbugs, such as Under the Radar, and maybe catching an archive of Quizbusters episodes.
You mean like from mister Rogers neighborhood: noisy and quiet 1736 to mister Rogers celebrates the arts 1765 reran on PBS kids from 2000-2002 just like NesQuik cereal at the grocery store?
22:36 where does this come from?
It's a behind-the-scenes look at Sid the Science Kid, probably a bonus with the movie they did.
Oh, there’s a 2009 rerun of I want cake from Sid the science kid!
I Loved Lambchop Playalong
You mean like the JokeZone segment of a silly person’s shoe joke comes after a BloopyCise song of Yankee Doodle is before kids drawing a KidZone logo on the sidewalk with red and blue chalk at the end of Barney & friends: ship ahoy, hats off to BJ, and up we go in 1996 before lamb chop’s play-along in 1996 just like ship ahoy?
I was just Wondering, when are You gonna Upload the Next Episode of This Is Public Broadcasting?
I'll post an update some point in the future.
You mean like the corporation is riding on a black Honda motorcycle and a green Polaris 4 wheeler on the street between the little yellow flowers, big white flowers, and big yellow flowers on the grass with a beanstalk at the service?
Where is the down the mine pilot?
I decided not to include it, since the regular TTTE episodes would not air on their own on PBS until 2004 or so.
You mean like a 1985-2022 rerun of thomas & friends on ITV, Cartoon Network, Nick Jr., and channel 5?
Loved ZOOM: I think I had a crush on Jay, lol! Kids liked WISHBONE, but then, so did I.
I think there is at least one childhood crush from any live-action PBS Kids series, whether Zoom or Fetch! or Design Squad. Just so long as the crush hasn't lasted until adulthood...
@@LNER4771 Nah, no more. Just a childhood memory.
You should do an episode about The Noddy Shop and Wemsey's House both shows aired on PBS
Maybe.
A little help from 1996-1997 for a WimZie’s house rerun on YTV?
Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego had a lost episode. Lynne Thigpen was out sick so Greg Lee had to fill in for her, and the host of Nickelodeon’s Double Dare series hosted the show. During the map segment, a kid got hurt while running across the map. It was a disaster. It is said that episode aired once, but never again, or maybe it never aired after all. Or maybe the whole thing was a fake. I don’t know. See what you can do with that, Captain Rutledge.
I believe the whole episode was fake, what with an investigation done with the Lost Media Wiki.
@@LNER4771 REALLY?!
I like to see sir vile seeking Halloween balloons in where in time is Carmen San Diego! I’m good at watching it on KidZone in 1998!
Ok, with that Sid the Science Kid bit, that was some Men in Black type shit, like ayyo wtf?!
I think it was a DVD extra with the movie the series had.
You mean like a 2009-2013 rerun on PBS kids?
The have found the full episode of 847 of Sesame Street
I know, but I included it on the list as an example of a piece of lost media with an interesting narrative behind its discovery.
@@LNER4771 oh ok