Hey kylie, I have a question. Did someone tried to contact kirk about this ? Considering he is somewhat active and does some commissions for companies. I feel like he must be contactable somewhere, right? Of course im not suggesting to go bother him about this but I feel like with obscure media its one if the first thing people does. So I find it wierd it wasnt mentioned.
Been watching this channel since the beginning, I think. Great content. Interesting subjects and delivery. Congratulations and best wishes for future growth!
If I had a nickel for every time reddit called something a money laundering operation I'd need a money laundering operation to make all the money less suspicious
This is especially funny to me, because I have no idea how money laundering would work. Like, if you have ill-gotten gains, why not spend it quietly and slowly and get the same effect?
@@TheDanishGuyReviews The reason you launder money is because the movement of money can be tracked. So you will let it go through as many legit operations as you can, so it cannot be traced back to your illegal operation.
I think what Kirk Nash meant by putting "real fur" on characters is that the hair was actually a 3 dimensional model itself, rather than a flat texture colored to look like fur.
I have to say I think the fur looks quite nice actually. Especially at 7:05, the character looks like a little felted doll. I think Kirk has every right to feel proud of this, since (according to his website) he made the film in 2001, and Monsters Inc (a film known for revolutionizing fur rendering) came out the same year. The computing power to render fur materials must’ve been a lot for such a low budget studio. Obviously, a film like Monsters Inc has much nicer rendering (and physics simulation for the fur as well), but the point of my comparison is to say that back in the day fur rendering was certainly not easy or fast.
i have *some* experience in 3d modeling and i second this. "real fur" in 3d modeling like this usually a bunch of tiny little lines being rendered on top of the actual model
The thing is, though, he might be right. Being a Christian kid's Christmas movie, it probably got all kinds of awards from churches, and was probably played in their daycare areas many, many times. So _technically_ true but leaving out important context. I also suspect the channels it aired on were local affiliates filling out their airtime during the early morning hours.
Considering you can pay to get awards from shady award companies, I don’t doubt it has some awards. Pinely made a video about getting his purposely trash animated film awards
Honestly, for an early 2000’s animation made by a tiny team, it’s actually quite well animated? Sure they’re a little janky, but the fact that they emote, blink, move in a reasonable way is kinda incredible not gonna lie, very sweet, even if it is just to push bible verses, it was cute
The title sequence is also very impressive and you can see how much effort they put into all of the 3 modeling. Everything looks really good for the time I think. I wonder what their budget was.
Basically it's just some simple obscure kids movie. I hate how TH-camrs always have to hype things up with adjectives like "UNNERVING", "CREEPY", "EERIE" etc
@@hirobiro617 Well, cats typically eat mice/rats, and rodents are usually known to do things such as cause disease and overpopulate. So it would be a good metaphor.
@@audieb512 Someone should a cartoon series where the mice are the bad guys and the cats are the heroes. I'd make a cartoon like that, if my dreams of doing animation hadn't been crushed.
I honestly respect how much the producer patted themselves on the back, like giving yourself a medal type energy, or playing applause noises when you enter a room.
Not gonna lie, recontextualizing "I Want a Hippopotamus For Christmas" into a hippo girl singing about wanting a hunky hippo boyfriend is actually a pretty cute idea. Though, the parts of the song where the singer explicitly says that other species of animals aren't acceptable and she'd ONLY be happy with a hippo has... implications.
@@Deedoo_r It's perfectly fine for a hippopotamus to only want to date hippopotamus. You think a Hippopotamus should mate with a dog or something? Sounds cruel.
I reached out to Kirk Nash about his other works as well as this one and he responded! He has George And The Flies somewhere but he’d have to dig through over 100 TB of projects to find it. It was mostly live action but some parts were 100% CGI He doesn’t want to share Wonder Worm- Glad I’m Green as the man who asked him to make it scammed him and ended up costing him over $100k
Maybe he might share Wonder Worm if the lost media community raised sufficient funds to purchase it off of him or to make him feel better about the production.
Omg that's awful. :( I hope people are contacting him now to tell him how amazing he is. Getting him the recognition he deserves. I'm super anti-relogion, but going full force on a passion project & continuing to hone your craft afterwards is such a cool thing. That seriously sucks that he got scammed like that. 🫠
the absolute whiplash of pausing the video as soon as i see an ebay listing, finding it's been purchased, and then finding out you bought it to share with us was so much. i need to lie down. thanks kylie!
Honestly, for as *ugly* as the movie is. It's quite well animated for an independent CGI film from the very early 2000s. The characters have a lot of fluidity to them, so there was likely a lot of hand animation happening with very little tweening between distant keyframes. Making characters move naturally, especially characters with such odd shapes, is *hard*, and Kirk's team did a very decent job.
The first Hallmark movie was apparently in 1951, but the first Chrismas movie is listed around the internet as 2000. I can't seem to find what the actual first Hallmark Christmas movie was, without being redirected to the Hallmark TV Channel. It's infuriating. I really want to know.
it really did air on TV stations. i remember this movie SO WELL from my childhood. they played it every year on Sky Angel, a christian cable company that my family had when I was growing up in the early 2000s in Georgia. this was one of my favorite movies they played.
It’s not all that odd to me that a band from the early 2000s would be doing 90s punk. Lots of teens at that time were really into older punk music. Plus, there were years in the early 2000s before emo got a good foot hold where there just wasn’t a dominant new style of music.
And it was probably something the seller said, not the band members themselves. Seller probably thought "this sounds like Green Day or Blink 182" and called it 90s punk.
@@mrt77wvand let's not pretend 90s punk even began in the 90s. The groundwork for that scene began with Bad Religion, Operation Ivy, Screeching Weasel, The Queers, hell even Green Day themselves and NOFX, in the mid to late 80s.
just finished the video, hearing you say "I was the one that bought it" was genuinely such a shock, really excited to hear it! and congrats on the Gamer Supps partnership, been loving the Blue Razz flavour for so long 😭
3:25 That menu is usually the one you'd get when recording a DVD using a "DVD Recorder". These were available for home use and usually meant for converting VHS to DVD. You'll usually get a variation of this barebones menu on the finished DVD. This leads me to believe it was home production/ amateur company.
Finish watching the video before commenting, we've all tried to answer a question only for it be answered in the video. A mistake I've also made before
Great video! Just a few thoughts: I think the claim that the characters had real fur instead of textures just means the hair was simulated like they did with Sully in the original Monsters Inc as opposed to something like Food Fight where characters with fur just look like plastic. Also I think the implication is that the town the grandpa lived in was a town for humans and that all the animals live in small dwellings in the buildings (when the camera zooms towards the church it goes through a mouse hole instead of the front door)
thank you! you're probably right about the real fur. also i noticed the little mouse hole church too, but then when they're in front of the church they look full sized LMAO so it's just inconsistent
The ants are the ones that creep me out the most, but still an endearing cartoon! So much lost media out there that not even the internet knows about, it's captivating to see people try to save as much human art as possible (because that's how I see it, as human art from unique individuals). Can't wait to be among the first to listen to get everet after so many years lol
I am SO excited more people will now know about The Special Christmas Gift! I found a VHS copy in great condition at a church thrift store a few years ago and have shown it to several friends because it's such a bizarre and surprising movie but even without knowing the history, we could all tell a lot of passion went into it. Thank you for doing looking into it and sharing all this info!
Is that song popular in Mexico? The guy who created it is Puerto Rican, that’s why it mixes Spanish and English. I just assumed it would only be popular in the U.S. and U.S. territories.
>Power goes out >They tell an entire story to pass the time >Power comes back on once the story is finished The director wouldn't have happened to have worked on Family Guy at all, would he?
Yeah, I think that's a pretty old trope, way older than Family Guy. I think I remember it being on Arthur too. And Phineas and Ferb, but that's a little newer than Family Guy, so I'm not sure why I mentioned it, but... I guess I did.
The idea behind "Real Fur" is that the fur is fully modelled in 3d, not a texture. I admire them for going to the trouble of doing it but whatever early 2000s CGI tech they were using just didn't have the processing power to make it look good.
Oh my gosh, this is amazing to see! You're one of my favorite TH-camrs, and you've done this silly little Reddit post I didn't expect to go anywhere justice! I apologize deeply for never uploading it, I to this day still can't get my copy to upload to the Internet Archive for some reason :/ But at least somebody else had a copy and was able to post it! The money laundering thing was kind of a joke :) I never knew how deep the rabbit hole went, I knew there was some other misc. lost movies from CDI, but I never knew there was lost music related to it! I'm glad you're preserving it :D Thank you SO much for making a video on this, it was basically my goal to get the word out and let more people know about this silly little obscure movie I discovered and not let it be forgotten!
The "real fur vs textures" thing: the producer is claiming that he used modeled, simulated hairs (think Sully in Monsters Inc, for example, for an early example of this.) Usually it would just be a flat image applied to the object as a texture that is drawn and rendered to give it the appearance of fur. You can kind of think of textures as wrapping an object in a wrapping paper with a picture on it.
This is actually heartwarming; that some guy and a close knit circle around him had a dream and were determined to make it a reality. The animation isn't the best, but at least there's nothing sinister or malicious behind it, just some ambitious everymen looking to share their work.
A person finding an obscure DVD containing a weird film? The kind of weird stories that I really like to hear. This is a good Christmas present from your part, Kylie!
"Nuttin For Christmas", "All I Want For Christmas Is My Two Front Teeth", "White Christmas", "Christmas Island", and "I Want a Hippopotamus For Christmas" are the songs licensed for the movie.
Expected a creepy cult made movie, came out with a weird movie with a sweet message. Reminds me of that one Elf Christmas movie that was lost media for a bit (like a day)
I think what they mean by the "real fur" is that they actually rendered the fur in real time instead of just making it a flat texture. Which admittedly was fairly rare at the time. Honestly? The animation isn't THAT BAD, I'd say it's even impressive for indie-ish animation for that time. Still bizzarre though. Also, their hands look pretty normal to me lol, mice have hands rather than paws, if it makes sense.
babe wake up, new kylie video just dropped i haven’t watched yet, but i know it’s going to be great already. thank you for making such quality videos all the time :) these are hands down the most interesting lost media videos EDIT: having watched it now- wow, this took an unexpectedly lighthearted turn. i’m currently in my phase of collecting bad, terrible movies, and i think often about how obscure some of these movies are. it would be so easy for these movies to slip through the cracks. if OP never made that post, it wouldn’t have sparked the investigation and we wouldn’t have the movie released for everyone. thank you for covering such a fun story!
I hope the folks who made this find this video and enjoy the love you gave them, because there are so many out there who make art that was a love and passion of theirs for that art to only be forgotten by time. I think of several friends who's music and art can be lost media and how I could never experience it again due to myspace losing all that digital data and friends just losing things over time. Seems Get Everett was getting close to breaking out but never quite got there, a local band from humboldt with The Cutters was like that for me. At least now these folks get to live on a little longer. And the movie is endearing in a almost Veggie Tale quality, there is worse Christian media but this actually seems to follow an actual plot and if the creator had the ability to make a few more practice animations, could of been a lot better. Thanks for this video.
Honestly thank you for sharing the story of this movie. You did such a good job telling it that , that I could genuinely feel the emotions of it. The dude did a real good job for the era and I'm glad that he's still working.
Omg get everett played at beat kitchen???? that place still slaps to this day. Most of my favorite concerts ive seen at that venue. Perhaps contacting beat kitchen could get us a lead on the 2 song ep?
HIGHLY personal case of lost media of my own- There were these DVDs that I believe only went into circulation in Canada. (I’m in NL myself) I had about 2 or 3 of these… I remember I got them as Christmas gifts. They were called “Children’s Theatre”. There’s very little info online about them aside from the scattered box art. These came in volume sets. 1, 2, etc. I’m not sure just how many were made but all the box arts are some cheap, tacky and CREEPY as hell looking clip art, and the one thing that absolutely stuck out to me as a kid on every one of them is the ugly jester on the top. They all featured (from what I remember) creepy, experimental shorts that ranged anywhere from the mid 60’s to early 80’s, similar to the vein of Sesame Street. I don’t remember much of what happened in them but a little black boy skipping around while some really trippy stuff was going on, I believe there were video filters over him and it looked very disturbing, and then I remember there was this one animation… I don’t even remember what it was but it truly disturbed me in a way I can’t even describe, I remember the distinct feeling it left me with, almost sickening. It was a trippy Sesame Street-esque animation that I cannot even remember the details about… But all I know is that it scared the shit out of me so hard I never ever touched the DVD again and it just got scratched up and thrown out eventually over the years. I had kind of just brushed it off as something trippy I saw as a kid and nothing more until when I was working at my local goodwill centre recently and I saw like 2 more of them. I hesitated to get them because I didn’t want my co-workers thinking I was nuts… But they were gone the next day. I was kinda pissed… These DVDs are ALL lost media and as far as I’m concerned I’m the only one who actively wants to find them. Their footage is nowhere to be found online, I’ve checked absolutely everywhere. Only some box arts, not sure if all of them are online. I am so mad that I had the chance recently to save 2 of them but didn’t. From what I can tell these DVDs are very very rare… If anyone has them at all… PLEASE upload them because I’m absolutely dying to see what terrified me as a child. All I know is that it was contained somewhere within the first 5 volumes.
Lived ~1/1.5 hours from most of the locations in Illinois mentioned. The area tends to run pretty religious and this definitely would've sold like hot cakes in nearby churches. It's also not far from Chicago (hence several of Get Everet's shows being there) so it would be within the realm of reason (though a stretch of semantics) to also say that it was award-winning and was enjoyed be the numbers claimed
I remember seeing a portion of this from Christmas VHS tapes we had as a kid. My mom would record a handful of Christmas programs off the TV from various channels. I remember the portion with the hippo onwards, which makes me think she caught it midway being played. Im not sure if she found a movie and copied it or just a channel that played it. Really cool to see this again
get everet sounds insanely familiar to me for some reason I can't quite put my finger on. I look forward to hearing the cd when you share it to see if I recognize any songs! I'm not from Illinois but I am from another midwest state nearby so it's not implausible that someone I know may have been a fan and shared their music with me at some point.
it feels like something I'd find through SoundCloud like Enon or Talkshow Boy (despite the two getting lightly more mainstream) I feel like it'll have Midwest Emo Vibes solely based on the art and cover, it's giving early modest mouse or it might be a case like panchiko
This was an incredibly adorable video, and I enjoyed every second of it. Thank you so much! I cannot wait to hear what those peoples idea of 90s punk was in the early 2000s ha ha ha
Thats amazing, not at all what I expected haha. I love finding old threads and uncovering new pieces of information and even new hyperfixations purely because of weird little connections between IPs. Loved this video and I'll be watching the full show soon. Thanks!
Imagine making a fabricated bad movie, put it into a CD disc and dump it to some CD store to see someone bought it and post it on the internet about some "lost" media they just found. Although computers will show the date and format on the file however.
Okay, you know, I never thought I'd feel so old at only 49, I'm not supposed to be officially old until 65. Here is some basic information for those interested in "lost media". Something that might also inspire those who like to create so called "Analog Horror". Back before the internet and even before dial up media used to be sort of a wild west. People ran all kinds of pirate TV and radio stations, you can even find movies and such about this, as well as some areas having a sort of "public access" loophole where you could broadcast on TV locally or in a limited area without falling prey to other kinds of regulation. If you've ever seen "Wayne's World" that was basically supposed to be a couple of moron hipsters from the era doing the public access thing. Likewise things like "numbers" stations are in part so mysterious because they seen to be devoid of the regulations requiring things like constant station identification, and as they are continual should be getting attention from the authorities. If nothing else why they have things like an identification exemption should be a matter of public record (as it would be in the laws) but of course there is nothing. At any rate given the ridiculous number of local and public access shows that were out there, many run by churches and universities and things it is entirely possible something like this done on a micro budget, as such things often were, might very well have been on 6,000 stations and even won awards from within those communities. It should also be noted that while technically illegal, and later regulated, there was literally a time when everyone with the money to afford some camera equipment an a dream was making movies, and oftentimes avoiding the law in doing so. People used to shop movies around in suitcases to find buyers among privately owned video stores (later largely knocked out by chains such as Blockbuster), and churches and such used to produce movies and shows for use by those doing the public access thing, or to sell in the back of faith based magazines and such. Eventually movie studios, who followed all kinds of rules, and had to pay fees, made some major legal stinks about this and there were crackdowns, but the big thing was that a lot of media was in fact created, that was not intended to be pornographic, in defiance of the law or monitoring. Truth be told though, it is much rarer to see something like this going on after the Millennium, in digital format, and on DVD. Most of the bootleg church stuff tended to favor puppets, and many were shot in the church funding it, or properties owned by them. You wound up with a lot of really creepy muppet-type knockoffs, as pretty much everyone got the idea of trying to use something like Seseme Street to push religion as Seseme Street was perhaps the most successful children's program ever. Horrendous quality horror movies are also pretty common, as there were plenty of people who somehow thought they could make the next "Friday The 13th" with a bunch of ketchup, a prop knife, and a cheap mask. See when looking at lost media from any era, one thing you have to understand is the people who collect this stuff for whatever reason are not eager to share it. As a general rule they aren't interested in weird home videos or documentary footage like is used in a stable of the V/H/S series. See the dream among the real enthusiasts, is to find something that is actually good, or at least interesting among the piles of unknown garbage. It should be noted that in most cases when someone like this say wins a storage unit once owned by the owner of an old rental store, and finds piles of movies, if they find anything interesting with multiple copies the first thing they do is destroy all of them except for one, to ensure it becomes a unique item. They also rarely distribute so it becomes extra-valuable for other collectors to trade them for, or even just see it. Very few of the people into this are interested in making this stuff publically known as it would then be less special. It's sort of like how when it comes to "Doo Wop" music... you know how back decades ago you used yo have black kids doing that stuff in bathrooms and things due to the acoustics, if someone finds a recording of something unknown, even at an amateur level, the first thing they do is make it unique if possible and keep it within a tiny community. Believe it or not a recording of someone doing doo-wop in a bathroom in a high school bathroom back in the 50s or 60s can now be worth a small fortune to the right buyer if you can prove authenticity. The same applies to old VHS tapes, and recordings of public access shows from back when that was common and basically unregulated. Just some general information, many might know all of this, but I know a lot has been forgotten due to the internet. It sort of amuses me to think of "lost media" coming from thrift store DVDs, but I suppose it does make a degree of sense. As far as the tape from "The Ring" or other kinds of cursed retro-media, if anyone doing Analog horror ever needed a framing device, consider there are a lot of ghost towns out there that are only a few decades old. If you need a device that is not often used, such media might be in an off limits town (closed roads and stuff) with an old pre-Blockbuster rental place that is oddly intact. See, you never know what some guy with a trenchcoat was going to pull out of a suitcase to try and get a store to put on their shelves back then. Likewise, very few people tend to approach the idea of say an evil broadcast originating via a very local public access broadcast that I've ever seen, which would also explain why it might have been contained. Likewise if you ever want to take out a university in a story, one of their internal TV stations (depending on era) could be a workable idea.
Say what you want, but this is pretty ambitious for the time and budget. This was back before 3d animation was something just anyone could do. It was still new and unexplored and that film has camera moves and synchronized to music. It's no surprise he progressed.
i think this is my favorite topic that you've covered so far! something about it was just so whimsical and endearing to me, it feels like the core of what lost/mysterious media is supposed to be all about. keep up the good work!
I so look forward to every new video you post...you never disappoint. And good, bad or ugly...I think we're all looking forward to seeing(or rather, hearing) what's on that CD! It's so fun watching you investigate some of the many internet and lost media mysteries! Can't wait till the next one!!!
I hate how well animated this is for an "indie" studio from the early 2000's. Yet the shading is dark and eerie at the same time. It almost makes me feel comfortable watching it, but something feels off.
23:27 This is the second time something you’ve posted literally hits home for me. 😅 No joke, when you started searching for the record store, I had to pause and do my own quick search because York Rd. is where I spent a LOT of time in the early 2000’s since my cousin was going to Elmhurst College. Sure enough, this intersection was crossed many times, and now many more since bestie’s family lives nearby. I’m in all the local Facebook groups, so I’ll look through the members and see if anyone on there is from either of these families. If so, I’ll see if I can get them in contact with you. Btw, the other one was about the McDonald’s ad a while back ago. Still searching for that. Unfortunately, the person I knew who once did business with corporate moved to AZ and I can’t get a hold of him.
To add a little more info about the area, Elmhurst is part of the western suburbs of Chicago, in DuPage county. Watching a little more of this video, I saw that the eBay seller was from Highland Park. I’m pretty sure by now everyone knows what happened there not too long ago, so I’m not gonna mention it. Anyway, my point is that Highland Park is north of Chicago, about an hour’s drive from Elmhurst. There’s a good chance of finding that CD in a thrift store there since both places are pretty upper middle class neighborhoods. Super interested to see where this goes. I wonder if posting to the local groups would yield more obscure music. I think I found my ADHD side quest for today. 😂
For the early 90s this was some pretty standard animation for a small studio. Frankly the fur and the physical movement/anatomy is great. I appreciate the message wasn't too heavy-handed either, yeah it's overtly Christian but encourages kids to go look up Luke 2 (or ask their family) instead of just reading off the lines in a boring way. I'm old enough to remember early computer animation and the days of TV movies like this one that probably aired once, it's not unnerving to me at all. Makes me wonder if the young folks find it so because they've ground up with HD and 60 frames and whatnot so these older pieces look creepy to them, kind of like VHS/analog becoming a horror genre
Christian bookstores used to have a lot specialized kids videos back in the day. Veggie Tales was originally only found in Christian bookstores before they were ever shown on cable or today on streaming. Kingsley's Meadow was absolutely loved by my nephew when he was a toddler as was SuperBook and Liberty's Kids. However, for every series sold at Christian bookstores that had success there were twice as many that simply fell through the cracks due to lack of sales. This looks like one of those kids videos that was forgotten because no one really ever cared about it. The claim that millions saw the special thing could very well be true if the special was aired on UPN, Pax, and Family Net. You could easily have gotten 2 million people to see it just on UPN alone depending on when it aired.
9:05 look mom i'm on tv!!! still have the tape, if there's interest i could do a better transfer sometime. i also should probably scan the cover art :p
Great video, thank you. I haven't heard of this before or the last media towards the end, I'm glad you do cover topics like this. Maybe a video about the Boards of Canada lost media?
i'm usually a lurker on your channel, but i love your approach to lost media and the pacing of your videos. this video was awesome, can't wait for more !! :D
I’ve seen dvd menus like that from some homemade dvds with “bonus features” made by an amateur “filmmaker” in 2002. So, they’re definitely a real thing.
It's not every day someone finds an obscure CGI Christian film that nobody's heard of except probably a few people in northern Illinois at best. We have entire pieces of lost media where all we know is that they exist and barely any information beyond that, either due to being released during the early days of the internet or before the internet was even a thing. We should be glad someone managed to find this, otherwise it would have been lost to time.
Aside from the obvious crazy events, are we just not gonna question how food and various products are not only members of society but also for sale? Aren't half of them selling themselves? Are these entities eating other sapient entities who willingly allow it? What's with the grandma mouse saying she lives in a good barn, yet we see an entire mouse/animal sized cityscape throughout the movie? The world building is probably more trippy then the events of the movie itself.
Legitimately the cleverest use of the "Two Front Teeth" and "Hippopotamus for Christmas" songs. I usually can't stand those two ditties, but it actually managed to feel natural here.
I hope this movie gets a Letterboxd page since it would be sad to not have that gem up. Also, I hope someone archives that Get Everet album and the art since it sounds promising as someone who is a sucker for that kind of indie punk. Edit: You sly dog, you!
The Get Everet tangent made me realize that the contents of hundreds of CDs, DVDs and Blu-Rays will become lost media soon. Nowadays computers don't have DVD players anymore... its sad, and kind of scary
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The Salad Fingers references were cracking me up ! I had never heard of this let alone SEEN it until you shared it with us. It certainly is uncanny and unpredictable !
Great video! I recently got into browsing old forgotten PC games, and this video kinda motivated me to continue my search for weird and cheap, yet perplexing and charming stuff
Man, I love your sense of humor. It’s rare in this genre that someone is both good and funny, but, for me, you’re that. I don’t know whether it is due to our similar ages, but the way you talk and the words you say add this feeling like one of my friends is telling me about something they found.
I know I'm getting old when people are completely perplexed that CGI was difficult to do well in the 90s-00s 😭 The technical prowess (and software and hardware budgets) required to build such lengthy, complex animated scenes back then can hardly be put to words. It's really not the least bit surprising that that caliber of computer nerd didn't have much headspace left to also be expert screenwriters, or the energy/time/money to perfectly refine the models, textures, and animations. Compare to the compromises Veggie Tales or ReBoot made in order to achieve more well-rounded products under similar team constraints. That fur was fantastic. I bet Kirk is still very proud to have pulled it off.
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Hey kylie, I have a question.
Did someone tried to contact kirk about this ? Considering he is somewhat active and does some commissions for companies. I feel like he must be contactable somewhere, right?
Of course im not suggesting to go bother him about this but I feel like with obscure media its one if the first thing people does. So I find it wierd it wasnt mentioned.
Been watching this channel since the beginning, I think. Great content. Interesting subjects and delivery. Congratulations and best wishes for future growth!
got one :3 ill take anything i dont have to enter payment for lmao.
Also you really pulled a Nick Robinson on us
If I had a nickel for every time reddit called something a money laundering operation I'd need a money laundering operation to make all the money less suspicious
This is especially funny to me, because I have no idea how money laundering would work. Like, if you have ill-gotten gains, why not spend it quietly and slowly and get the same effect?
@@TheDanishGuyReviews The reason you launder money is because the movement of money can be tracked. So you will let it go through as many legit operations as you can, so it cannot be traced back to your illegal operation.
@@TheDanishGuyReviews People ask questions when you try to buy a mansion with a bunch of random $20s.
I think it's only second to redditors suggesting carbon monoxide poisoning as an answer to ANYTHING
@lorit4480 can confirm
I think what Kirk Nash meant by putting "real fur" on characters is that the hair was actually a 3 dimensional model itself, rather than a flat texture colored to look like fur.
I have to say I think the fur looks quite nice actually. Especially at 7:05, the character looks like a little felted doll. I think Kirk has every right to feel proud of this, since (according to his website) he made the film in 2001, and Monsters Inc (a film known for revolutionizing fur rendering) came out the same year. The computing power to render fur materials must’ve been a lot for such a low budget studio.
Obviously, a film like Monsters Inc has much nicer rendering (and physics simulation for the fur as well), but the point of my comparison is to say that back in the day fur rendering was certainly not easy or fast.
i have *some* experience in 3d modeling and i second this. "real fur" in 3d modeling like this usually a bunch of tiny little lines being rendered on top of the actual model
It is a bit of a funny way to say it, but that is certainly what he meant haha.
Yeah, paused the video to type this to see your comment. It's about 3D fur
@@TheSilentCivillian I honestly didnt get why that was hard to figure. After hearing that in the video my reaction was "...huh?"
I won’t lie, the animation is far more competent and professional for a budget religious animated film. Like it’s 5/10 but it’s 10/10 in that field
kirk is the ultimate low budget religious animator 🙌
For the time period and for the low budget its pretty decent animation.
Yeah, like by modern standards it looks badly animated, but for a cgi animated film in 2000? It looks good!
Omg yes ABSOLUTELY
and some of the character designs are actually cute (in my opinion). usually they're horrific lmao
Claiming the movie is award-winning and aired on thousands of stations sounds like Tommy Wiseau claiming he was a student of a dead Oscar winner.
The thing is, though, he might be right. Being a Christian kid's Christmas movie, it probably got all kinds of awards from churches, and was probably played in their daycare areas many, many times. So _technically_ true but leaving out important context.
I also suspect the channels it aired on were local affiliates filling out their airtime during the early morning hours.
I feel like Kirk's mother is very proud.
Considering you can pay to get awards from shady award companies, I don’t doubt it has some awards. Pinely made a video about getting his purposely trash animated film awards
Tommy Wiseau admittedly has incredible taste in movies, that's the weird thing. Problem is, he has no idea (at all) how to replicate that magic.
@@Yarow28 Oh boy I got that reference
Honestly, for an early 2000’s animation made by a tiny team, it’s actually quite well animated? Sure they’re a little janky, but the fact that they emote, blink, move in a reasonable way is kinda incredible not gonna lie, very sweet, even if it is just to push bible verses, it was cute
I actually really like how it looks during the night scenes, espiecially in the beginning in the mouse family's home, it's quite cozy.
The title sequence is also very impressive and you can see how much effort they put into all of the 3 modeling. Everything looks really good for the time I think. I wonder what their budget was.
I can see the definitely busted ass on this, but the ants were still blinking both their eyes at different times
Basically it's just some simple obscure kids movie. I hate how TH-camrs always have to hype things up with adjectives like "UNNERVING", "CREEPY", "EERIE" etc
I thought the mice singing and dancing in the pews were so cute. I need a gift of that.
'real fur' as opposed to 'faked with textures' refers to either using a particle system to have 'hair' on a characters mesh
honestly if this *is* from 2000, then the fur effect is pretty impressive
@@stoplight2554 Yeah, it looks dated and kinda ugly by modern standards but for a low budget 2000s movie it actually looks very competent
Man sets up an either and refuses to deliver the or
@@rewenemp It must either be some sort of typo
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When Grandma Mouse said "sometimes it seems that the world is going to the cats" - I felt that.
Why are cats always the bad guys in media? They do more good than harm.
@@audieb512 well, there aren't many animals that would help the metaphor if the main hero were cats, vs a mice vs cats dynamic
@@hirobiro617 Well, cats typically eat mice/rats, and rodents are usually known to do things such as cause disease and overpopulate. So it would be a good metaphor.
@@audieb512 Someone should a cartoon series where the mice are the bad guys and the cats are the heroes. I'd make a cartoon like that, if my dreams of doing animation hadn't been crushed.
@@loneshewolf74 What happened?
I honestly respect how much the producer patted themselves on the back, like giving yourself a medal type energy, or playing applause noises when you enter a room.
I think I'll give myself a prrrrrrromotion!
There’s so much comedic potential in having a mouse Jesus crucifix. They could’ve named him Cheesus.
I feel like that would have been blasphemouse
Isn’t there a famous picture of a mouse or rat crucified
@@fordc.2831I think that rat killed a dude’s pet and he crucified it
And he was called cheesus of nazarat
Spews coffee while laughing
Not gonna lie, recontextualizing "I Want a Hippopotamus For Christmas" into a hippo girl singing about wanting a hunky hippo boyfriend is actually a pretty cute idea.
Though, the parts of the song where the singer explicitly says that other species of animals aren't acceptable and she'd ONLY be happy with a hippo has... implications.
What kind of implications?
@@HughJanus9999racial ones
@@Deedoo_rnah nah its okay cuz interspecies relations is a different matter from interracial ones
@@Deedoo_r It's perfectly fine for a hippopotamus to only want to date hippopotamus. You think a Hippopotamus should mate with a dog or something? Sounds cruel.
I mean to be fair do you find other animals attractive
I reached out to Kirk Nash about his other works as well as this one and he responded!
He has George And The Flies somewhere but he’d have to dig through over 100 TB of projects to find it. It was mostly live action but some parts were 100% CGI He doesn’t want to share Wonder Worm- Glad I’m Green as the man who asked him to make it scammed him and ended up costing him over $100k
Thanks for sharing!
Maybe he might share Wonder Worm if the lost media community raised sufficient funds to purchase it off of him or to make him feel better about the production.
Omg that's awful. :( I hope people are contacting him now to tell him how amazing he is. Getting him the recognition he deserves. I'm super anti-relogion, but going full force on a passion project & continuing to hone your craft afterwards is such a cool thing. That seriously sucks that he got scammed like that. 🫠
@@kennystevens2923That would be so cool. I wonder if a reddit post would make a difference.
the absolute whiplash of pausing the video as soon as i see an ebay listing, finding it's been purchased, and then finding out you bought it to share with us was so much. i need to lie down. thanks kylie!
I was almost so upset at her. Like, Kylie, it's ten bucks, why did you not jump on that-
And then she went and totally redeemed herself
I was so concerned 😂😂
I was expecting this to be much more creepy
The Jesus on the cross statue was creepy AF. Looked very gruesome.
@@autumnphillips151 as a Christian, I agree. 👍
lol same, I also thought it was possibly gonna be a reddit ARG
@@bebe44144me too!
Same... still downloading and watching it (just in case)
Honestly, for as *ugly* as the movie is. It's quite well animated for an independent CGI film from the very early 2000s. The characters have a lot of fluidity to them, so there was likely a lot of hand animation happening with very little tweening between distant keyframes. Making characters move naturally, especially characters with such odd shapes, is *hard*, and Kirk's team did a very decent job.
For early and cheap animation the fur texture on the main characters is actually rather good considering the budget and tec they had access to
It looks so soft
It's *REAL FUR*
The first Hallmark movie was apparently in 1951, but the first Chrismas movie is listed around the internet as 2000. I can't seem to find what the actual first Hallmark Christmas movie was, without being redirected to the Hallmark TV Channel. It's infuriating. I really want to know.
Might be The Christmas Tree, 1958 for NBC. Part of Hallmark Hall of Fame, it may have been a TV short instead of full movie? Cannot tell for certain.
Amahl and the Night Visitors, 1951.
First hallmark film is lost media nowadays
There's one from the mid-eighties called the Christmas Gift, starring John Denver. Not sure why they'd be saying the first was in 2000...
it really did air on TV stations. i remember this movie SO WELL from my childhood. they played it every year on Sky Angel, a christian cable company that my family had when I was growing up in the early 2000s in Georgia. this was one of my favorite movies they played.
Same! This video brought back so many memories
"Uh, yeah yeah, Luke chapter 2."
"Johnny does not read Luke chapter 2."
why was this so amusing to me lol
It’s not all that odd to me that a band from the early 2000s would be doing 90s punk. Lots of teens at that time were really into older punk music. Plus, there were years in the early 2000s before emo got a good foot hold where there just wasn’t a dominant new style of music.
I should say late 90s into the early 2000s before emo caught on.. Music doesn’t really follow decades, even if we like to talk about it as if it does.
Emo was big in Illinois and the rest of the region in the 90s though with Midwestern Emo
And it was probably something the seller said, not the band members themselves. Seller probably thought "this sounds like Green Day or Blink 182" and called it 90s punk.
@@mrt77wvand let's not pretend 90s punk even began in the 90s. The groundwork for that scene began with Bad Religion, Operation Ivy, Screeching Weasel, The Queers, hell even Green Day themselves and NOFX, in the mid to late 80s.
just finished the video, hearing you say "I was the one that bought it" was genuinely such a shock, really excited to hear it! and congrats on the Gamer Supps partnership, been loving the Blue Razz flavour for so long 😭
I was like about to go online and try to buy it myself if they didn't ahah
3:25 That menu is usually the one you'd get when recording a DVD using a "DVD Recorder". These were available for home use and usually meant for converting VHS to DVD. You'll usually get a variation of this barebones menu on the finished DVD.
This leads me to believe it was home production/ amateur company.
5:20 ...and almost 2 minutes later someone else realized this lmao
Finish watching the video before commenting, we've all tried to answer a question only for it be answered in the video. A mistake I've also made before
Great video! Just a few thoughts: I think the claim that the characters had real fur instead of textures just means the hair was simulated like they did with Sully in the original Monsters Inc as opposed to something like Food Fight where characters with fur just look like plastic.
Also I think the implication is that the town the grandpa lived in was a town for humans and that all the animals live in small dwellings in the buildings (when the camera zooms towards the church it goes through a mouse hole instead of the front door)
thank you! you're probably right about the real fur. also i noticed the little mouse hole church too, but then when they're in front of the church they look full sized LMAO so it's just inconsistent
@@sombertoboggly that’s fair it is a very uncanny animation in general lol
The ants are the ones that creep me out the most, but still an endearing cartoon! So much lost media out there that not even the internet knows about, it's captivating to see people try to save as much human art as possible (because that's how I see it, as human art from unique individuals). Can't wait to be among the first to listen to get everet after so many years lol
I think that this video was your magnum opus, really entertaining and well done, it's like a christmas gift for us viewers.
thank you so much! :)
Man used the term “magnum opus” to refer to a 20 minute long TH-cam video about a most likely faked religious CGI film.
i actually really think the character designs are enjoyable af
They do look all cute.
I am SO excited more people will now know about The Special Christmas Gift! I found a VHS copy in great condition at a church thrift store a few years ago and have shown it to several friends because it's such a bizarre and surprising movie but even without knowing the history, we could all tell a lot of passion went into it. Thank you for doing looking into it and sharing all this info!
Cant believe the Mexican peppers didn't sing feliz navidad
gonna be honest me too, he did trach johnny what it meant though lmao
Is that song popular in Mexico? The guy who created it is Puerto Rican, that’s why it mixes Spanish and English. I just assumed it would only be popular in the U.S. and U.S. territories.
@@autumnphillips151 huh, never knew that. Maybe that's why the peppers didn't play the song then.
@@autumnphillips151 it absolutely is popular in other spanish speaking countries
That's what I was thinking! They're seriously not going to sing Feliz Navidad!?
>Power goes out
>They tell an entire story to pass the time
>Power comes back on once the story is finished
The director wouldn't have happened to have worked on Family Guy at all, would he?
Isn't that a common Christmas gag tho
That's a pretty old story trope
Yeah, I think that's a pretty old trope, way older than Family Guy. I think I remember it being on Arthur too. And Phineas and Ferb, but that's a little newer than Family Guy, so I'm not sure why I mentioned it, but... I guess I did.
The idea behind "Real Fur" is that the fur is fully modelled in 3d, not a texture. I admire them for going to the trouble of doing it but whatever early 2000s CGI tech they were using just didn't have the processing power to make it look good.
The phrase "high quality animation" has the same energy as Silvagunner calling their vids "high quality rips"
Oh my gosh, this is amazing to see! You're one of my favorite TH-camrs, and you've done this silly little Reddit post I didn't expect to go anywhere justice! I apologize deeply for never uploading it, I to this day still can't get my copy to upload to the Internet Archive for some reason :/ But at least somebody else had a copy and was able to post it! The money laundering thing was kind of a joke :) I never knew how deep the rabbit hole went, I knew there was some other misc. lost movies from CDI, but I never knew there was lost music related to it! I'm glad you're preserving it :D Thank you SO much for making a video on this, it was basically my goal to get the word out and let more people know about this silly little obscure movie I discovered and not let it be forgotten!
The "real fur vs textures" thing: the producer is claiming that he used modeled, simulated hairs (think Sully in Monsters Inc, for example, for an early example of this.) Usually it would just be a flat image applied to the object as a texture that is drawn and rendered to give it the appearance of fur. You can kind of think of textures as wrapping an object in a wrapping paper with a picture on it.
This is actually heartwarming; that some guy and a close knit circle around him had a dream and were determined to make it a reality. The animation isn't the best, but at least there's nothing sinister or malicious behind it, just some ambitious everymen looking to share their work.
A person finding an obscure DVD containing a weird film? The kind of weird stories that I really like to hear. This is a good Christmas present from your part, Kylie!
This feels like a ‘so bad, it’s actually kinda entertaining’.
This is like some unholy fusion of Rapsittie Street Kids, the Hamster Dance movie, and that one VeggieTales christmas episode. I love it.
90% of Christmas songs are copyright free. There's a lot of holes in this story
I love the history... seriously.
"Nuttin For Christmas", "All I Want For Christmas Is My Two Front Teeth", "White Christmas", "Christmas Island", and "I Want a Hippopotamus For Christmas" are the songs licensed for the movie.
Gotta get that 10%, the money makes it more Holly and Jolly
Jingle my bells, baby~
Jingle my bells, please~
NGL, “Nuttin For Christmas” sounds like the title of a Whang Video on a 4chan thread.
Expected a creepy cult made movie, came out with a weird movie with a sweet message. Reminds me of that one Elf Christmas movie that was lost media for a bit (like a day)
I think what they mean by the "real fur" is that they actually rendered the fur in real time instead of just making it a flat texture. Which admittedly was fairly rare at the time. Honestly? The animation isn't THAT BAD, I'd say it's even impressive for indie-ish animation for that time. Still bizzarre though.
Also, their hands look pretty normal to me lol, mice have hands rather than paws, if it makes sense.
babe wake up, new kylie video just dropped
i haven’t watched yet, but i know it’s going to be great already. thank you for making such quality videos all the time :) these are hands down the most interesting lost media videos
EDIT: having watched it now- wow, this took an unexpectedly lighthearted turn. i’m currently in my phase of collecting bad, terrible movies, and i think often about how obscure some of these
movies are. it would be so easy for these movies to slip through the cracks. if OP never made that post, it wouldn’t have sparked the investigation and we wouldn’t have the movie released for everyone. thank you for covering such a fun story!
I hope the folks who made this find this video and enjoy the love you gave them, because there are so many out there who make art that was a love and passion of theirs for that art to only be forgotten by time. I think of several friends who's music and art can be lost media and how I could never experience it again due to myspace losing all that digital data and friends just losing things over time. Seems Get Everett was getting close to breaking out but never quite got there, a local band from humboldt with The Cutters was like that for me. At least now these folks get to live on a little longer.
And the movie is endearing in a almost Veggie Tale quality, there is worse Christian media but this actually seems to follow an actual plot and if the creator had the ability to make a few more practice animations, could of been a lot better. Thanks for this video.
This was a neat little story. Nothing weird, just a family and some friends making some stuff not a lot of people saw. I'm glad it will be preserved.
Honestly thank you for sharing the story of this movie. You did such a good job telling it that , that I could genuinely feel the emotions of it. The dude did a real good job for the era and I'm glad that he's still working.
This video, and your endearing comments about people just chasing their dreams to the fullest is exactly why i love lost media
Plot twist: The redditor who posted this mystery is Kirk Nash himself and he's just trolling.
Omg get everett played at beat kitchen???? that place still slaps to this day. Most of my favorite concerts ive seen at that venue. Perhaps contacting beat kitchen could get us a lead on the 2 song ep?
The animation on the mouse playing piano was honestly pretty good, especially with the way his movements were tied to the music.
HIGHLY personal case of lost media of my own- There were these DVDs that I believe only went into circulation in Canada. (I’m in NL myself) I had about 2 or 3 of these… I remember I got them as Christmas gifts. They were called “Children’s Theatre”. There’s very little info online about them aside from the scattered box art. These came in volume sets. 1, 2, etc. I’m not sure just how many were made but all the box arts are some cheap, tacky and CREEPY as hell looking clip art, and the one thing that absolutely stuck out to me as a kid on every one of them is the ugly jester on the top. They all featured (from what I remember) creepy, experimental shorts that ranged anywhere from the mid 60’s to early 80’s, similar to the vein of Sesame Street. I don’t remember much of what happened in them but a little black boy skipping around while some really trippy stuff was going on, I believe there were video filters over him and it looked very disturbing, and then I remember there was this one animation… I don’t even remember what it was but it truly disturbed me in a way I can’t even describe, I remember the distinct feeling it left me with, almost sickening. It was a trippy Sesame Street-esque animation that I cannot even remember the details about… But all I know is that it scared the shit out of me so hard I never ever touched the DVD again and it just got scratched up and thrown out eventually over the years. I had kind of just brushed it off as something trippy I saw as a kid and nothing more until when I was working at my local goodwill centre recently and I saw like 2 more of them. I hesitated to get them because I didn’t want my co-workers thinking I was nuts… But they were gone the next day. I was kinda pissed… These DVDs are ALL lost media and as far as I’m concerned I’m the only one who actively wants to find them. Their footage is nowhere to be found online, I’ve checked absolutely everywhere. Only some box arts, not sure if all of them are online. I am so mad that I had the chance recently to save 2 of them but didn’t. From what I can tell these DVDs are very very rare… If anyone has them at all… PLEASE upload them because I’m absolutely dying to see what terrified me as a child. All I know is that it was contained somewhere within the first 5 volumes.
Lived ~1/1.5 hours from most of the locations in Illinois mentioned. The area tends to run pretty religious and this definitely would've sold like hot cakes in nearby churches. It's also not far from Chicago (hence several of Get Everet's shows being there) so it would be within the realm of reason (though a stretch of semantics) to also say that it was award-winning and was enjoyed be the numbers claimed
I remember seeing a portion of this from Christmas VHS tapes we had as a kid. My mom would record a handful of Christmas programs off the TV from various channels. I remember the portion with the hippo onwards, which makes me think she caught it midway being played. Im not sure if she found a movie and copied it or just a channel that played it. Really cool to see this again
honestly ?? its actually animated very well , just doesnt have an appealing art style.
This was my thought as well! The mouse playing piano is incredibly well-timed to the music.
It looks dated, even for the early 2000s.
get everet sounds insanely familiar to me for some reason I can't quite put my finger on. I look forward to hearing the cd when you share it to see if I recognize any songs! I'm not from Illinois but I am from another midwest state nearby so it's not implausible that someone I know may have been a fan and shared their music with me at some point.
it feels like something I'd find through SoundCloud like Enon or Talkshow Boy (despite the two getting lightly more mainstream)
I feel like it'll have Midwest Emo Vibes solely based on the art and cover, it's giving early modest mouse or it might be a case like panchiko
This was an incredibly adorable video, and I enjoyed every second of it. Thank you so much! I cannot wait to hear what those peoples idea of 90s punk was in the early 2000s ha ha ha
That bare bones dvd select screen is present on some of my home-burned dvds from the mid 00s. 😂 clearly a homebrew job from the creators
Thats amazing, not at all what I expected haha. I love finding old threads and uncovering new pieces of information and even new hyperfixations purely because of weird little connections between IPs. Loved this video and I'll be watching the full show soon. Thanks!
the animation style of this kinda reminds me of scott cawthons early animations
Exactly bro, reminds me of ‘the pilgrim’s progress’
Imagine making a fabricated bad movie, put it into a CD disc and dump it to some CD store to see someone bought it and post it on the internet about some "lost" media they just found. Although computers will show the date and format on the file however.
Okay, you know, I never thought I'd feel so old at only 49, I'm not supposed to be officially old until 65. Here is some basic information for those interested in "lost media". Something that might also inspire those who like to create so called "Analog Horror".
Back before the internet and even before dial up media used to be sort of a wild west. People ran all kinds of pirate TV and radio stations, you can even find movies and such about this, as well as some areas having a sort of "public access" loophole where you could broadcast on TV locally or in a limited area without falling prey to other kinds of regulation. If you've ever seen "Wayne's World" that was basically supposed to be a couple of moron hipsters from the era doing the public access thing. Likewise things like "numbers" stations are in part so mysterious because they seen to be devoid of the regulations requiring things like constant station identification, and as they are continual should be getting attention from the authorities. If nothing else why they have things like an identification exemption should be a matter of public record (as it would be in the laws) but of course there is nothing.
At any rate given the ridiculous number of local and public access shows that were out there, many run by churches and universities and things it is entirely possible something like this done on a micro budget, as such things often were, might very well have been on 6,000 stations and even won awards from within those communities.
It should also be noted that while technically illegal, and later regulated, there was literally a time when everyone with the money to afford some camera equipment an a dream was making movies, and oftentimes avoiding the law in doing so. People used to shop movies around in suitcases to find buyers among privately owned video stores (later largely knocked out by chains such as Blockbuster), and churches and such used to produce movies and shows for use by those doing the public access thing, or to sell in the back of faith based magazines and such. Eventually movie studios, who followed all kinds of rules, and had to pay fees, made some major legal stinks about this and there were crackdowns, but the big thing was that a lot of media was in fact created, that was not intended to be pornographic, in defiance of the law or monitoring. Truth be told though, it is much rarer to see something like this going on after the Millennium, in digital format, and on DVD. Most of the bootleg church stuff tended to favor puppets, and many were shot in the church funding it, or properties owned by them. You wound up with a lot of really creepy muppet-type knockoffs, as pretty much everyone got the idea of trying to use something like Seseme Street to push religion as Seseme Street was perhaps the most successful children's program ever.
Horrendous quality horror movies are also pretty common, as there were plenty of people who somehow thought they could make the next "Friday The 13th" with a bunch of ketchup, a prop knife, and a cheap mask.
See when looking at lost media from any era, one thing you have to understand is the people who collect this stuff for whatever reason are not eager to share it. As a general rule they aren't interested in weird home videos or documentary footage like is used in a stable of the V/H/S series. See the dream among the real enthusiasts, is to find something that is actually good, or at least interesting among the piles of unknown garbage. It should be noted that in most cases when someone like this say wins a storage unit once owned by the owner of an old rental store, and finds piles of movies, if they find anything interesting with multiple copies the first thing they do is destroy all of them except for one, to ensure it becomes a unique item. They also rarely distribute so it becomes extra-valuable for other collectors to trade them for, or even just see it. Very few of the people into this are interested in making this stuff publically known as it would then be less special.
It's sort of like how when it comes to "Doo Wop" music... you know how back decades ago you used yo have black kids doing that stuff in bathrooms and things due to the acoustics, if someone finds a recording of something unknown, even at an amateur level, the first thing they do is make it unique if possible and keep it within a tiny community. Believe it or not a recording of someone doing doo-wop in a bathroom in a high school bathroom back in the 50s or 60s can now be worth a small fortune to the right buyer if you can prove authenticity. The same applies to old VHS tapes, and recordings of public access shows from back when that was common and basically unregulated.
Just some general information, many might know all of this, but I know a lot has been forgotten due to the internet. It sort of amuses me to think of "lost media" coming from thrift store DVDs, but I suppose it does make a degree of sense.
As far as the tape from "The Ring" or other kinds of cursed retro-media, if anyone doing Analog horror ever needed a framing device, consider there are a lot of ghost towns out there that are only a few decades old. If you need a device that is not often used, such media might be in an off limits town (closed roads and stuff) with an old pre-Blockbuster rental place that is oddly intact. See, you never know what some guy with a trenchcoat was going to pull out of a suitcase to try and get a store to put on their shelves back then. Likewise, very few people tend to approach the idea of say an evil broadcast originating via a very local public access broadcast that I've ever seen, which would also explain why it might have been contained. Likewise if you ever want to take out a university in a story, one of their internal TV stations (depending on era) could be a workable idea.
Thanks for the backstory.
ok but can we mention how one commenter said "if The Ring has a sequel" even though the Ring & Ringu already has multiple sequels 💀
Say what you want, but this is pretty ambitious for the time and budget. This was back before 3d animation was something just anyone could do. It was still new and unexplored and that film has camera moves and synchronized to music.
It's no surprise he progressed.
Clearly, The Special Christmas Gift got robbed at the Oscars. We live in the bad timeline 😭
i think this is my favorite topic that you've covered so far! something about it was just so whimsical and endearing to me, it feels like the core of what lost/mysterious media is supposed to be all about. keep up the good work!
thank you!
Thank you so much for digging this all up Kylie! If you didn't cover this stuff I would have no clue of its existence.
I so look forward to every new video you post...you never disappoint. And good, bad or ugly...I think we're all looking forward to seeing(or rather, hearing) what's on that CD! It's so fun watching you investigate some of the many internet and lost media mysteries! Can't wait till the next one!!!
I hate how well animated this is for an "indie" studio from the early 2000's. Yet the shading is dark and eerie at the same time. It almost makes me feel comfortable watching it, but something feels off.
23:27 This is the second time something you’ve posted literally hits home for me. 😅 No joke, when you started searching for the record store, I had to pause and do my own quick search because York Rd. is where I spent a LOT of time in the early 2000’s since my cousin was going to Elmhurst College. Sure enough, this intersection was crossed many times, and now many more since bestie’s family lives nearby.
I’m in all the local Facebook groups, so I’ll look through the members and see if anyone on there is from either of these families. If so, I’ll see if I can get them in contact with you.
Btw, the other one was about the McDonald’s ad a while back ago. Still searching for that. Unfortunately, the person I knew who once did business with corporate moved to AZ and I can’t get a hold of him.
To add a little more info about the area, Elmhurst is part of the western suburbs of Chicago, in DuPage county. Watching a little more of this video, I saw that the eBay seller was from Highland Park. I’m pretty sure by now everyone knows what happened there not too long ago, so I’m not gonna mention it. Anyway, my point is that Highland Park is north of Chicago, about an hour’s drive from Elmhurst. There’s a good chance of finding that CD in a thrift store there since both places are pretty upper middle class neighborhoods.
Super interested to see where this goes. I wonder if posting to the local groups would yield more obscure music. I think I found my ADHD side quest for today. 😂
feel free to let me know any updates whenever!
Holy shit, what a journey, i actually want to hear this album now
always a good day when a new kylie video drops
Was expecting strange, but this is for sure endearing and wholesome af. Happy holidays everyone!
i think when it said “added real fur” it meant actually painstakingly modeling the fur in 3D rather than slapping a flat texture on it.
Love the new Somber Toboggly rebrand. Sounds like a Star Wars character name :)
For the early 90s this was some pretty standard animation for a small studio. Frankly the fur and the physical movement/anatomy is great. I appreciate the message wasn't too heavy-handed either, yeah it's overtly Christian but encourages kids to go look up Luke 2 (or ask their family) instead of just reading off the lines in a boring way.
I'm old enough to remember early computer animation and the days of TV movies like this one that probably aired once, it's not unnerving to me at all. Makes me wonder if the young folks find it so because they've ground up with HD and 60 frames and whatnot so these older pieces look creepy to them, kind of like VHS/analog becoming a horror genre
Christian bookstores used to have a lot specialized kids videos back in the day. Veggie Tales was originally only found in Christian bookstores before they were ever shown on cable or today on streaming. Kingsley's Meadow was absolutely loved by my nephew when he was a toddler as was SuperBook and Liberty's Kids. However, for every series sold at Christian bookstores that had success there were twice as many that simply fell through the cracks due to lack of sales. This looks like one of those kids videos that was forgotten because no one really ever cared about it. The claim that millions saw the special thing could very well be true if the special was aired on UPN, Pax, and Family Net. You could easily have gotten 2 million people to see it just on UPN alone depending on when it aired.
9:05
look mom i'm on tv!!! still have the tape, if there's interest i could do a better transfer sometime. i also should probably scan the cover art :p
imagine making a post about a movie you can't find anything about, and not uploading said movie in the same post
Great video, thank you.
I haven't heard of this before or the last media towards the end, I'm glad you do cover topics like this.
Maybe a video about the Boards of Canada lost media?
The fact that singer mice in church look so different from all other mice really bothers me
i'm usually a lurker on your channel, but i love your approach to lost media and the pacing of your videos. this video was awesome, can't wait for more !! :D
Maybe the true special Christmas gift was the lost media we found along the way.
I’ve seen dvd menus like that from some homemade dvds with “bonus features” made by an amateur “filmmaker” in 2002. So, they’re definitely a real thing.
It's not every day someone finds an obscure CGI Christian film that nobody's heard of except probably a few people in northern Illinois at best. We have entire pieces of lost media where all we know is that they exist and barely any information beyond that, either due to being released during the early days of the internet or before the internet was even a thing. We should be glad someone managed to find this, otherwise it would have been lost to time.
Aside from the obvious crazy events, are we just not gonna question how food and various products are not only members of society but also for sale? Aren't half of them selling themselves? Are these entities eating other sapient entities who willingly allow it? What's with the grandma mouse saying she lives in a good barn, yet we see an entire mouse/animal sized cityscape throughout the movie? The world building is probably more trippy then the events of the movie itself.
fr, these are the real questions to be asking
Legitimately the cleverest use of the "Two Front Teeth" and "Hippopotamus for Christmas" songs. I usually can't stand those two ditties, but it actually managed to feel natural here.
18:56 That ant is blinking out of sync 😮
17:59 This is unbelievably vicious. Here i was enjoying lost media early 2000s trippy nostalgia we never had and this happens
I hope this movie gets a Letterboxd page since it would be sad to not have that gem up. Also, I hope someone archives that Get Everet album and the art since it sounds promising as someone who is a sucker for that kind of indie punk.
Edit: You sly dog, you!
The Get Everet tangent made me realize that the contents of hundreds of CDs, DVDs and Blu-Rays will become lost media soon. Nowadays computers don't have DVD players anymore... its sad, and kind of scary
"SOMBERTOBOGGLY isn't valid for items in your cart" :(
I'm getting that too, also no free shipping/continuing without payment info like advertised
hang on let me message them to see what's up with the code, no reason why it shouldn't be working guys, so sorry about that!
@@makarambles @kyoseryt i messaged them, it is fixed now! really sorry about that :(
@@sombertoboggly all good I’ll have a look now
@@sombertoboggly works now, thanks!
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The Salad Fingers references were cracking me up ! I had never heard of this let alone SEEN it until you shared it with us. It certainly is uncanny and unpredictable !
All I want for Christmas is Waluigi's toenails.
waluigi wants toenail clippers
Yes, the animation is unnerving at times, and the plot a little strange. But it appears to be a very heartwarming Christmas movie.
Bro bought an album just for some random people on the internet to see. Respect
"Here's screenshots from the movie." Scrolls on photo *fade to black*
Great video! I recently got into browsing old forgotten PC games, and this video kinda motivated me to continue my search for weird and cheap, yet perplexing and charming stuff
Man, I love your sense of humor. It’s rare in this genre that someone is both good and funny, but, for me, you’re that. I don’t know whether it is due to our similar ages, but the way you talk and the words you say add this feeling like one of my friends is telling me about something they found.
The fake out with the album buyer omg ur killing me
The DVD menu is just a generic burned DVD menu. My dad used to burn DVDs of TV shows recorded on TiVo and they would all have a similar menu like that
I know I'm getting old when people are completely perplexed that CGI was difficult to do well in the 90s-00s 😭
The technical prowess (and software and hardware budgets) required to build such lengthy, complex animated scenes back then can hardly be put to words. It's really not the least bit surprising that that caliber of computer nerd didn't have much headspace left to also be expert screenwriters, or the energy/time/money to perfectly refine the models, textures, and animations. Compare to the compromises Veggie Tales or ReBoot made in order to achieve more well-rounded products under similar team constraints.
That fur was fantastic. I bet Kirk is still very proud to have pulled it off.