Power Tool Batteries for Electric Bikes, Scooters and Skateboards? // DIY Build
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ม.ค. 2020
- Battery Mounting Plates, 3D Files:
www.furtherfabrication.com/re...
PARTS LIST:
Skateboard Hub Motor and Speed Controller
amzn.to/3tk84PJ (affiliate link)
Skateboard mounting hardware.
Dual Core Power Wire
XT60 plug
Little plastic plug that was hard to find:
nz.rs-online.com/web/p/pcb-co... - This is where I got mine from, but use the page to help with finding something local.
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It's so nice from you to release the battery holder designs for free! Especially considering that you made one for every common brand.
Looking forward to see more uploads from you :)
You're welcome! I had done a couple of brands for my own use, so I figured why not do a few more haha
I was about to comment the same. I've been thinking about trying to make models for something, someday and now I know where to get them if I want. Huge thanks
except the only brand i have: Ryobi
Hey great to find your channel - came across it looking at the onefinity cnc router, and in a post about making money from a cnc router someone linked your post about making money from a laser cutter. Anyway history aside, I'm still in the early stages of designing stuff for my 3D printer (which is frustrating me with sticking to the build plate). Wondered if you had made a battery adaptor for AEG batteries (yep I'm in NZ too)
Ya thanks man. What a good guy move
If you don't already have sponsors, you should get some. This video was very nicely done, informative and to the point. I watched the whole way threw with no skipping forward.
I have been wanting to do this with my ebike, I'm definitely moving forward with it now!
Thanks again.
How in the heck does this not have 50 million views? Amazing job... wow... such dedication and awesomeness for 12k views LOL I've got a lot of work to do!
I agree. How does this channel not have 10m subs
Mate, you are an absolute legend. I have thought about doing this for a while, you have done all the hard yards for me, big ups to you for the 3d printer files. I know how difficult it can be to print holders for drill batteries and I only designed one of them. Thank you so much for your efforts.
Thank you for all the work in this project. I have tons of Makita Batteries from work I never thought of trying to use. Now I have an endless supply of skateboard batteries 😂👍
Where do you work? I've been trying to find places other than laptop repair shops because batteries i get from them suck ass.
might try this before i build the laser. just ordered the wheels and controller. cheers for the vid and files
Man that level of ingenuity is amazing. Keep on the good work mate! Can barely wait to see the next builds
Thanks mate!
Thank you for making your digital files available for the community to use - much appreciated!
I subscribe the second I saw you put the battery holders up for free!!!! That's extremely helpful and very generous!! Good job!!
Fantastic video and great information. I was definitely wondering about this and glad you got it all summarized in one place.
Enjoyed this video Rob! Great work!
Bro this is such a good idea. Nicely done. Kiwi design for the win!
Honestly bro, that's awesome. Thank you so much for sharing. I'm a shop teacher always looking for new projects. I'm gonna try this out.
I love your videos mate, and I wish I were from New Zealand because it looks absolutely beautiful!
Thanks for this video ! You inspired me to build my own electric longboard. I’ve got almost all the parts and getting ready to build it soon .
In a way it is a shame that so many of these drill manufactures have gone to the higher 18V systems. When most of them were 12V I would pick up old units from second hand stores (12V ones) and use a 12V 7.5A gel cell with a 1.5m cable. As such they were still VERY portable, and the charge lasted for ages. I suppose one could use a boost circuit to push the 12V to 18V anyway.
When you compare the price between a new drill.. and a replacement battery it is often cheaper just to buy a new drill. Here's to recycling :)
marcwolf60: A few years back I wanted a second battery for my drill. Price quoted as $84. Promo price for a low spec drill with two batteries identical to the one I needed... $99!
No brainer, Eh.
The comments are very good. I had my experience with the Aston Rider kit, it came out less than 300usd with lifepo battery and it has been running without problems since I had it more than a year ago
I have the same setup here in Canada, a 1000 watt 48 volts front wheel motor, I used 6 4Ah Ryobi batteries putting them 3 in series and then parallel them. I got over 20 km range on full charge, and whopping 45 km/h max speed. because I used a 60 volt battery on a 48 volt controller, the speed was much higher. Like you said, riding an ebike feels awesome like a silent motorbike!
Hey man I need some help building my e scooter, how many batteries do you think I’ll need ?
Thanks so much for all your work. I put this too use to power my electric trike. Your 3D printer file worked great. The only heads up I would give for other people trying this is make sure you monitor your batteries. I drained my batteries too low and ended up wrecking one of them.
Awesome video as always, that long board looks slick with the speed controller cover
Thanks mate, it's not particularity rugged but it sure tidy's things up
Awesome project! Pretty cool use for power tool batteries. And props for CADing the battery clips. I imagine it too quite a while
thanks man, yeah it was a bit of a process
Informative, entertaining and just well made. Thanks!
Great video and exactly what I was looking for! Cheers mate!
What a great idea dude, you might have just saved my backfire ranger x2. What’s not to like, faster charging and you can carry spares. Very exiting so thanks for that! Heads up too, there’s an Australian company called 48tool that do battery holders for all brands. They don’t have the slits that your design has but saves 3d printing if you can cut the holes yourself. Thanks again!
I am retrofitting the 3 wheel Trikkes, with 36v motors, utilizing 40v Ryobi batteries. 6ah. I believe I can get up to 20 miles at 12 mph. So awesome.
Hello from Auckland. Thanks for the mounting plate, I am going to add batteries to my Mi scooter.
Had to like three times. Very cool, thanks for the design files!
Exactly info I've been wondering about for a while.
What we can conclude is you're the Boss man!
SO interesting! Great job mate!
Great build. Thanks for sharing!
Absolutely brilliant!!!
Mint vid Rob, loved the skateboard one, been wanting to get one of them. 🤘
Cheers Rob! yeah man dooo it, they are super fun!!
@@FurtherFabrication also been wanting to motorise the scooter that I made last year (th-cam.com/video/CHifRpaGNtk/w-d-xo.html) I've got a chainsaw engine for it but just not quite the engineering nous - electric looks way more doable - I'm on Makita batties - cheers for making those 3D files available mate!
Excellent video. Very instructive. Erich from New Zealand
i built this project. awesome!
Very nice work, and appreciate you sharing those files for free. I had a similar question/objective, but I don't have a 3D printer so I need to figure something else out. I have noticed that the power equipment battery packs from hardware stores seem a bit cheaper than the battery packs specific for e-bikes etc, which is why I was interested in going that route. I may just try to build one from scratch, which I think might be even a bit cheaper still (?).
I'm designing a sort of hybrid between a scooter and mountain skateboard, but with 3 wheels. Option to stand or sit. The electric wheel will be an 8 or 10" fat wheel in hub motor on the back, and then it will have a mountain board truck/all terrain wheels on the front. Minus the wheels/motor, everything else will be from scratch.
I'm going to use a composites approach to build the structure. The main part of the structure will use Paulownia wood as the core, and then S-glass fiberglass will be epoxied on with a high quality, high strength epoxy (preferably with bio content) at least 7k psi rating. But I just might use some thinnish birch plywood as the core to save money, though it will be a bit heavier.
It will have an impact resistant acrylic, somewhat bubble molded front windshield to increase range and speed, especially for sitting. I'm going to make a super lightweight trailer for it to hold some solar panels. The trailer will be made out of primarily EPS foam + fiberglass + Titebond III to keep the weight really low. It will need some wood attached to screw into the large, high quality caster wheels. It will be attached to the E vehicle via reinforced bamboo poles with UHMWPE cord running through (stuff is ridiculously strong for its weight).
If I ever do make it (need to save up money), it sure will look pretty funky. But I'm going for utmost efficiency between weight and aerodynamics as I can get, and as simple as a design/build I can get. The tricky part (besides expense of all the stuff), will be how to attach the back E wheel/motor to the "board" part. Haven't figured that part out yet. Was thinking of using 4 high strength Al alloy tubes, flattening the ends, drilling or cutting a notch in same, and then brazing the tubes to an Al alloy plate that will be drilled and glued to the board. So two V V structures going to a flat plate on top. It just needs to handle the strength of the motor and a little over half my weight, so hopefully that will be strong enough?
nice job, easy to follow
Love your channel!
Awesome work! Thanks for sharing :)
How has this thos few views? Amazing work man!
Got a like and a sub just for the real world work put in.
Nice video. Love your stuff
This was pretty awesome to see. I mean it makes sense that li-ion in a powertool battery and in an ebike battery would both do the same job, but hardly any powertools are used continuously for 2 hours, and with the built in protection circuits etc it's good to know these work as intended in series. One minor downside would be that you can't easily install any kind of charging port on the board but being able to swap to fresh batteries at a moment's notice far outweighs this. Otherwise if you only have one set, depending on the charger they could take a while.
@@ThyerHazard When I say continuously I mean like if you were to pull the trigger on a power drill and not let go for 30 minutes. Nobody does this. From a thermal design standpoint this 95-100% duty cycle is a much harder case to deal with than a 50% or 75% duty cycle operation in a tool.
Dude you are the best person I know
This is kiwi ingenuity at its finest and just awesome bro keep it up bro
amazing, great job
chuur ... awesome vid bro. Keep them coming.
i quite enjoyed your cobtent , please continue to make more aaaaaand you got yourself another sub!
LEEEEEZZZGO!!
Great job & awesome video. I wish all e-bikes start using CAS batteries or CAS start manufacturing e-skateboards, e-scooters, and e-bikes. I will share this video on my Facebook. The instruction is very simple & understandable for many people.
Dude that is so sweet! Do you think this will work on a starter for a motorbike?
Really impressed! Cheers Tim
Wow that's awesome 👍 impressive stuff!
Cheers mate!
Now it’s time for a 2s2p configuration
love your video! such detail in testing and info! please do something similar with electric scooters. i got a hiboy s2 pro and would love to even be able to charge it on the go with 2 makita batteries lol
Great and detailed video!
Cheers mate!
Outstanding!🎉❤
I have 4 new 20/60v flexvolt dewalt batteries 9ah each, building a custom mountain border style deck AWD 😮. Thanks for the vid
Thanks , Great video ❤
Champion! I bought a Giant 'Twist' bike that is missing the battery and had been wondering about modding it for power tool batteries as it is already 18V.
Amazing.. thats what i need to know. Thank man
Good video man.
Top work bro👍🙌
Great video
I've been wondering about this one myself. Nice work keep making content. With your video skills interesting content and engaging personality you could be an excellent YT maker/ creator.
...as I sit here working on my Dewalt powered scooter.... Nice intro to what I expect to be a growing project
haha Awesome! I can't wait to see how it turns out! how many battery packs you gonna run?
@@FurtherFabrication 2x 9ah, so around 350Wh. I'm mirroring the scooter's internal battery though, including a full BMS to the cell level in the dewalt packs. Figured the scooter had it, and I can make it work, why not do so
wow, and there's still plenty of room under the bike! would you revisit this with more drill batteries in parallel (safely, of course) for longer range? or 20v batteries for more power? or both combined? I'm very interested in the drill battery capability of this! seems so much easier since I already have so many drill batteries
Neat video Rob
Thanks man
Liked and subscribed. Those e bike battery companies won't get another dime from me😉✌️
Great video, I'm thinking of powering an E bike with my 40V ryobi lawn mower battery which I think would solve a lot of issues.
Good video was wondering could you make a alternator or 2 that would ride on the tires to charge the batterys then you could go further. I've seen ones that would ride on your tires for a headlight on an old bike i had so it should work for charging the batterys.
Well done. I wonder how the DeWalt 20/60v would behave
Awesome!!! Still gathering parts for the laser build but definitely gonna be doing this project as well. The affiliate link is not working unfortunately.
If you're doing this in the U.S., and are planning to use an 18v or 36v motor, I'd suggest going with Ridgid (North America's AEG) batteries. They have a 'Lifetime Service Agreement' that essentially means they'll send you a new battery once one fails. I did this recently with a 3ah 21700 cell battery that they don't produce any more, and they sent me an 18650 cell "High Output" 4ah battery in less than a week, just by spending 20 minutes on the phone. Probably best not to tell them the battery is being used outside of their power tool line, though.
Hi , great video ! Quick question. What kind of motor do you use and I’m thinking of using two dewalt 20 Valt batteries , I’m searching for the motor that will work . Thanks for great idea because I have a lot of dewalt batteries here and love long boards !
Nice job! I'm also surprised by the skateboard vs bike efficiency. BTW; the only downside of having mismatched packs (say, a 2ah pack + 4ah pack) in series is that the lower capacity one will cut out first, meaning you waste the extra 2ah on the 4ah pack.
Thanks! I know, seems a little counterintuitive. Yeah that would totally be a thing to watch out for!
Based on most of these tool batteries using the 18640-25R cells, at 2 in parallel, it should give 40 Amps continuous discharge.
Was your ESC one that you had to program or one that you could get telemetry from?
I am wondering if you can get the 40A out of them or if the battery is fused to burn out at 20A or limited in some other way.
Any thoughts?
Nice impreza wagon.
Good test infos, didn’t know 2packs of the 18v can go that far. Sure is worth the usage 👍, thanks for sharing 💕
Thanks very useful
Just a quick question. you place a thin sheet of some kind of metal through the 3d printed part in order to make contact with the battery. What did you use to do that? Is it in your parts list? I didn't see any mention of it and would love to use this kind of thing for other projects.
Im late to see the video but it looks like to solve the bike issue would be to regear the motor to rear wheel maybe even add a jack shaft to trick it into having more torque
great video. what 3d printer do you have?
A pity there aren't any holders for greenworks, as they are one of the few 48V battery suppliers out there or the 60V version of the Dewalt flexvolt! Gonna have to make them myself I suppose ;)
I am curious: To use regenerative braking on these, do you need a separate BMS?
damn, what a fuckin HOMIE for making the files free. fackin legend
Ofcourse you can volts are volts amps are amps aslong as you stay within parameters required all is good. Plus drill batteries =extra amps
Liked just for the free 3d printed files. I'd probably add a couple more if it was my build
Awesome video. But the hyperlinks don't work anymore. What rated voltage were you the motors and controller you used? 48 Volts? Really want to build one of these
Cheers mate. I've updated the link, it was 24-36v one
just a BMS battery management system and you dont have to worry about having a large voltage difference.
Good job, skateboard and bike. What gauge is heavy gauge, 10g, 12g?
thanks, this is great, i subbed, looking forward to more videos!! i had an idea, how about an external battery on a scooter but its separate from the original controller motor and battery circuit, basically just to use it as a battery assist. Like rear motor is the existing scooter brain, motor and battery, but the new one is just a button that will draw from a battery to run the new front motor.....does this sound like something that is pretty easy to do? I thought so, but i wanted to get your opinion.....what do ya think? Thanks again, great video!!
Which model of motor did you use for the bike? affiliate link?
I'm assuming these motors free wheel? So I can have the option of pushing normally or using the motors. And I've seen people use ryobi batteries by mounting them sideways to make them fit.
Hey man, I've finished the same experiment following your steps with the same Makita batteries(brand new) and unfortunately my board for some reason shuts down randomly, making it not safe to ride.
I think my motors and ESC are in good condition as when I use my normal block battery, everything works great and consistent.
I thought maybe the isse was that I didn't solder the cables properly, but I think I did, so I'm not sure if it's dropping power which makes the ESC freak out and shut down as an emergency cut-off maybe.
What would you advice me to do?
I was wondering what were your next goal after finish laser cutter. Now I know :)
As always, greetings from Poland! :)
Would you be better putting more batteries in Parallel or just carrying them and swapping them in when you need to?
Interesting! If you use an old style bicycle and put 2 (or more) batteries on each side, you can create a chopper style electric motorcycle. ^ _ ^
Change your wheel hub into sealed bearing you could see much difference. Like your skateboard it is sealed bearing.
Very snazzy :)
Hi there would you design a one plus drill bracket please I’m also using a drill battery on my electric skateboard
Cool idea and proof of concept. What brand of wire stripper are you using at 05:08?
Thanks mate. ah not sure exactly, I got them off aliexpress, I think they're called automatic wire strippers
Will Milwaukee m18 batteries have low voltage cutoff if you used them on an ebike?