Despite her being in a deranged state, Hatice was right on one thing, regarding Hurrem: there's no neutral party with her. Either you serve her or you're an enemy she will humble or ruin
Admittedly, I truly think that's the kind of mind state that the culture of the empire enforces onto people. Even Mahidevran, along with Hatice and her sisters, behave in the same way.
@@shrutiiyer9531 they could. But how long until they were being approached by the quarreling parties? Either Mahidevran would have tried to recruit them into her coalition or Hurrem would. "There's no such thing as neutrality here. It's us vs them. And may the God protect you from me, if you choose them." I hear them saying in their attempts to"convince" you to join the "right" side
When mihrima said "you can't tell me what to do" Lol hurrem face was so funny she's like "damn girl chill. You did not just say that.😯" Hahahahahah Lol hurrem looks so proud of her 😅
What kills me about all this is the women in this show (which I am obsessed with and all the actors and actresses are flipping amazing and because I binge watch I’ve picked up little phrases in Turkish!!) is Hatice, Mahidevran, Fatima, Valide, etc do awful horrible things to Hurrem. Then when she retaliates they are like “OH POOR ME WHY IS SHE SO MEAN??” Hurrem has her own bad moments, but I really do see mostly her retaliating for horrible treatment.
I agree. Most people hate Hurrem because she manages to retaliate their horrible treatment tenfold worse than they did to her lol So they felt like she was the evil one when the fact is she merely defended herself or tried to stay ahead in their politics game. They didn't understand that part and that's what i like about her. If they tried to imagine where Hurrem didn't succeed to def herself then they will realize how cruel they were to Hurrem. We got used to watching the villains bullied the lead char so much that they barely do anything to stand up for themselves while Hurrem is diff. She is capable of defending herself well and i love that they didnt make her an innocent type of girl that always got bullied and do nothing lol
Hurrem learned these things from the best, all the evil people of this dynasty. They burn her, beat her up. try to kill her and she is not supposed to react?
The one person who I believed tried to be neutral was Bali Bey Mackojkolu although there were many attempts to get him on one side or another. For everyone else, it was a dog eat dog world. Eat or be eaten.
Hürrem was brilliant here. And because of the bias of the royal family towards servants, they ignored Nigar kalfa when she blatantly told them that it was completely possible that Hürrem was laying a larger trap. I mean, who served who for yrs? Who would know a person better than the ppl that serve them? They walked into the trap perfectly and it led Süleyman to finally accept his horrid sister was crazy and to send her off, which was Hürrem’s ultimate goal 😘👌🏾😂 Hürrem sultan forever ❤️
She destroyed her forever, she just ruined Shah Sultan reputation after. People found her husband beat her off, lost her power in Divan. After that, Mihrimah cleaned the house of rats and trash (Sending Shah forever and getting rid of Nigar) ☠️☠️🤣🤣🤣
How could you support Wickedness as a human being. Hadice is a victim here. Anyway, no way i can like Hurem. I don't say that Mahidevran was perfect but all this things started to happen after entrance of Hurem in the harem with her obsession. She coluld have eloped with her first love but she decided to kill him to remain with Suleyman. That's betrayal and selfishness. I'll never support evil be it in a movie, serial, drama or real life situation.
@@richiusfrancisco9244 How is Hatice a victim in all this? It was said in this video that she tried to kill Hurrem once before because she blamed her for Ibrahim’s execution, which technically wasn’t really her fault at all. Ibrahim did many things that greatly tested Suleiman’s patience. From the very beginning, up until this point, Ibrahim lied, manipulated, bribed, coerced, blackmailed, or outright murdered to get what he wanted or to protect his own secrets and agendas. First off, he lied to Suleiman about his secret affair with Hatice when he was questioned if he was hiding anything from him. When he finally confessed to Suleiman about his little Romeo and Juliet story with Hatice via letter, he tried to run away from what he did by fleeing back to his hometown of Parga, rather than face up to what he did like a man. Secondly, Ibrahim decided to have a bust made of himself, intending to have many more created and distributed across the Ottoman lands for people to see, without the sultan’s knowledge or consent. By his own words, he said that he would ‘have them placed on all seven hills of the city (Istanbul) and across all three continents, where people will kneel or bow before them,’ supposedly implying that he was an equal to the sultan. In spite of that, Suleiman chose to forgive him again, even allowing him to keep his title of Grand Vizier. Thirdly, when things were getting tough with his relationship with Hatice, especially after they had lost their second child, Ibrahim cheated on her with none other than Nigar kalfa. Furthermore, when Valide Sultan learned of this, the shock of the revelation caused her to collapse into a coma that resulted in her being paralyzed from the neck down, unable to speak, ultimately dying from her condition. In this, you could say that he had a significant role in the death of Suleiman’s own mother. Even when he cheated on Hatice again further down the line, Suleiman again chose to let him off easy. I could go on, but I think we all get the picture. The person that Hatice was mourning for and wanted to get revenge for was just not the man she thought he was at all. Ibrahim was a man whose arrogance, pride, and selfishness far outgrew who she thought he was and he absolutely did not deserve her tears, anger, or love. She knew what kind of a person Ibrahim was in the end, but she chose to take her pain and grief out on Hurrem anyway, regardless of whether she was responsible for his death or not, regardless of Ibrahim’s own selfish actions and shortcomings. All in all, say what you will about her, but Hatice was not innocent either, and she certainly was not a victim. She chose to play the ugly game and this is the consequence of her misguided anger and her inconsolable grief.
As a human being I shud actually feel sad for this state of Hatice, but thinking of all events - Insulting Hurrem from very beginning, Joining hands with Hafsa Sultan, Joining hands with Ibrahim, Joining hands with Mahidevran, Trying to kill her, insult her and throw her out in every given opportunity, Firuze, Isabella, etc etc.. They are just dearly paying back.. Her arrogance of being a Sultana is being shattered down..
Regarding Firuze or Isabella - it was such a culture back then, that sultan had a lot of women to sleep with. Hurrem looks like she went from another world (literally, cause born non-Muslim) and was like omg "why is sultan cheating on me". Hey that was the culture and all people out there were used to it. Even late Valide who did not like her late husband doing the same, had to accept it. Hurrem came there with her own rules and tried to change the culture. I understand her as a woman from today of course, but back then it was widely believed sultan is obviously right to have a lot of concubines.
@Lavanya1229. She tried to make Suleyman whole for herself only and then she deserved all punishments and insults. If she had no choce, she could have eloped with that love of hers (Lio) from the first place but she killed him for Suleyman. How can you say that you understand. We can't bring Justice by avenging to people. You should accept that Hurem was wicked. Hadice was her friend from the start then how did she pay her, by blackmailing Ibrahim. Hadice wanted nothing in her life but Ibrahim and the what did she get, Hadice was the most desperate woman inspite of being a sultana with royal blood.
Hurrem was extremely negative character,she loves herself only n she did all for herself,seven her mother in her dream was angry on her,but ppl here defend her just cos of beauty of actress who played this role.hurem didn't love sultan,infact she was there for revenge from sultan,which she said in first episode, despite of the fact she was not kidnapped by sultan but she took revenge from sultan.n this show was too fake,they distorted history,one woman like hurrem was clever of all,how it is possible? Such woman can easily killed by valida sultan n they showed she can survive in every attack,foolish writer n foolish director.
Hurrem never truly saw Hatice as an enemy or even a formidable opponent. If anything, she saw her as pitiful. And she often felt pity for her wrong choice of attaching herself to Ibrahim Pasha and, in turn, used to propagate Mahidveran's interest. She had loved and respected Hatice. And at one point, saw her as a neutral entity in the game of thrones, albeit the fact that she was married to her sworn enemy. That is until the Sultana's pitiful attempts to "protect" her husband's interest pitted them against each other. Unlike her other siblings who stood against Hurrem, I don't think Hatice was motivated by championing Mustafa's cause as much as her extreme fear that Hurrem will one day do away with Ibrahim. Of course, she wasn't wrong in harboring that fear, but that reason made her look weak in the eyes of Hurrem.
Yeah the whole drama between hatice and Hurrem is actually false. None of it ever happened. Hatice never even married ibraham, nor did she love him. She married another man who she loved dearly and when he passed away she did commit suicide. The whole drama of hurrem and hatice hating eachother wasn't a thing. They were actually really good friends the entire time. No drama, or hate involved. Ibraham it was found married another woman actually.
I love how Hatice omitted the fact of why she got the beating. Like please tell the Sultan why. Ooh yes brother I put a black magic spell on your wife and she beat me up for it. Hatice lied!!! But she got what she deserved.
She is so unthankful as hurrem helped her with an astrologer and saved her son, then telling truth of his husband, she did spell because she can't handle how her sister in law once used be a slave much happier than her even she had a pity feeling for her real evil her hatice
Hurrem was well superior to Gulfem but I feel sorry for her. Did Suleyman just send her away and forget about her when her son died of Smallpox? It must be hard for her to treat Hurrem and Mahidevran as her superiors when she was one day their equal, a favourite and mother of a Prince. She should have been a Sultan but she was forgotten just because her son died 😢
mihrima is the daughter of the current sultan, her aunts are only his sisters, their sultan father is already dead so mihrimah really outranks all her aunts here. and what kind of a child would allow anyone to humiliate their own mother .
@@SmartHd-hw3tyno they don't because hurrem is the legal wife of suleman and Mihriama is the daughter of suleman so which makes her powerful she already the next throne to valide
@@weneedcookies4756 they are in a culture in which they are supposed to respect their elders, so Mirimah would have to respect her aunts and they would be above her due to age.
Literally could have finished the job and had Hatice inconspicuously killed (i.e stage to make it look like she unalived herself) whilst she was out in the woods, but apparently her plot armor was too strong.
It was more about ruining the perception of Hatice to Süleyman. Hürrem needed him to believe that she was losing her mind after the death of Ibrahim. She knew that the only way he would have been able to part with his sister was to believe that sending her off was in HER best interest. Hürrem was brilliant here lol. And the evidence that was laid by Sümbül ağa? I mean ride or die FRFR 🤣🤣🤣
To be honest, I think Hürrem resisted doing that precisely because of it seeming to be the easy solution. Gülfem, really, makes that clear when she claims that, no matter what, she'll believe Hürrem to be guilty. If Hatice's death had been staged in such a way, the suspicion would still linger that she had, in fact, been murdered, which could impact Hürrem negatively. Instead, with Hatice alive but thoroughly discredited, Hürrem is in the clear no matter how others might suspect.
I think they didn’t end her that quickly because they have to make sure Hatice died during the same year that the real Hatice Sultana died in history. During this time is probably not the time when the real history Hatice died in. They probably plan on making the characters death timeline slightly accurate to real history.
@@princess7jasmine I only really pull out the, "Well, the show couldn't stretch history _that_ far..." for things like Ibrahim's infidelity being forgiven. In regards to this, I actually don't think it applies, in large part due to the fact that the show has absolutely played around with the historical dates of events before (ex: Selim is depicted as being born during Ibrahim's marriage to Hatice; except Selim was born in 1524 when Ibrahim's wedding occurred in a full year earlier in 1523). Not to mention, we actually don't know how the real Hatice died so there's plenty of room to play around as a writer there.
I am amazed. Hurrem was very cunning and smart. She was just a slave. First she made her place in Sultan heart, then got herself free , then married him . And then ruled Pretty impressive. And Sultan always believe her some how
Really, they all conspired against Hurrem. They got magicians to cast black magic on her. She was hallucinating and going crazy. What Hurrem did to all of them is what they asked for.
unreasonable hilarious. its beyond me how many of y'll like that diabolical woman and for what? for how corrupt she was? or show she manipulated suleiman at every chance she got? made others suffer because they made her suffer once upon a time? or for spilling the blood of the innocents? i get that she is intelligent but goodness her sins outweigh all the good she did. even ibrahim did good doesnt change the fact that he was malicious and cunning too. @@leoswiftie
Mihrima is such a good daughter, Hurrem was sad once she was born, but it turned out that little girl was the most loyal to her mother, always standing up for her. Bro, I want a daughter like Mihrima!💔💔💔
Hurrem used all her so called friends. Hatice was her friend in the beginning but Hurrem sold her out to Sultan alongside with Ibrahim; Nigar was tossed out after her betrayal; however even when she served Hurrem she was not protected from Mahidevran. Rustem; Nilufer; Maria... all at best could have served Hurrem but they were used like the objects. To serve her purpose.
just because "hurrem is the mother of 5 of my children" she is the most purest, sinless, the most pious lady to ever exist, suleiman only has this reason when anyone accuses hurrem of anything. like for once believe or even consider that the other person might be saying the truth
hurrem crossed certain lines that valide never crossed. sympathised with her in the initial episode but the moment she encroached on valide's chamber right after getting evicted mahidevran for the same was the most hypocritiv moment of all. not to mention the constant slandering of ibrahim and mustafa. hurrem was a devilish, diabolical immoral woman.@@jojojohanna3349
Hurrem is such a evil character and sultan suleiman do no justice with her sisters as he executed ibrahim but not rustem executed mahidevrain son mustafah not hurrem sons .he just blindly trusted on hurrem i think he is cruel ruler
mustafa never advocated for mahidevran like mihrimah does and yet mustafa is blamed for protecting mahidevran. atleast that man was smart enough to pick and fight is own battles and not just set a target on someone's back because they had an animosity with their mother
Nigar had so much potential, now she's a dog following behind Sultanas who never respected or treated her with an once of kindness. Hurrem loved Nigar and she stabbed her in the back over Ibrahim smh The nerve of Nigar to team up with the Sultans sisters especially Hatice who kept her daughter away from her!!
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She is so unthankful as hurrem helped her with an astrologer and saved her son, then telling truth of his husband, she did spell because she can't handle how her sister in law once used be a slave much happier than her even she had a pity feeling for her real evil her hatice
i don't about the real hurrem but this show hurrem abused suleiman's love for her like anything. istg the way i hate this woman. although real hurrem was cunning and allegedly involved in the executions of ibrahim and mustafa so maybe really she was as evil and cold hearted as she is shown in the show. suleiman is a puppet in the hands of his so called love
This is just a soap opera...I believe in real life,most likely,Sulaiman was madly in love with hurrem...he raised her up from slave to Sultana, and she was one of the most powerful woman,or person,in the ottoman empire..
This scene of Hadice made me hate Hurem from the serial to the real life. How can someone be this wicked, she killed so many people. I would rather be a poor man who lead a normal life than being a heartless and wicked person like Hurem for the sake of power and love. Ever since she entered the harem, she created the war among sultanas. Maybe if she wasn't there, Suleyman could spend life with concubines with out oppressing anyone. I hate Hurem to the core.
The king love the hurrem so much his love forgive everything what she did wrong she won the king heart and killed most of king favourite even her own child what a stupid crazy love is that
No she did it before now after this she'll kidnapped her and killed her self it's almost 11 years hurrem was on search I don't know why hatice is so evil. She is so unthankful as hurrem helped her with an astrologer and saved her son, then telling truth of his husband, she did spell because she can't handle how her sister in law once used be a slave much happier than her even she had a pity feeling for her real evil her hatice
Hatice is so unthankful & real devil as hurrem helped her with an astrologer and saved her son, then telling truth of his husband, she did spell because she can't handle how her sister in law once used be a slave much happier than her even she had a pity feeling for her real evil her hatice. Now she did black magic to her cause her faith involved and be kafir is justice thing foh u wow🎉
ქალის ძალა დიდი არის, თვით ყოვლისოყრობელიც გააბითურა, მე მაინც არ მომწონს ჰიურემი, არ არის კარგი ქალი ,მატყუარაა,ისეთივე ცუდია როგორც სხვები,უბრალოდ დაამხო და დაახურა თავზე სულთანს, ეს კოზირი აქვს
Hatice never lost her mind even when she was beaten to the ground, she still remembered everything that Hurrem did on her. Hurrem ruined the life of Hatice and has gone too far against her former best friend.
ah mihrimah gets that big mouth and impudence from young hurrem i see, like mother like daughter "no my mother would do nothing like this." mihrimah darling you should've seen how y our mother poisoned and ruined her bestfriend's face back in the day and then a princess and then firuze.
No lugar de Hurrem eu faria até pior,todos ali são hipócrita. E nesse tempo mais ainda um sultão omisso pois ele sempre soube quem cada um era .desde que fosse conveniente Pará ele como todo homem gostava quando Hurrem lutava pelo amor dele ela só pagou na mesma moeda.quem com ferro fere com ferro será ferido !
Hurrem was evil and selfish. All about herself. Well later when you read about her fam all her kids some died and some had an awful life. Her evil doings brought lot of suffering. Shame on her anger and selfishness
I don't know why hatice has no power to fight back either she is malnourished or doesn't eat much 😂😂😂 getting beaten up by another women who already is fainting I wish she fought back and pulled hurrems Hair and make her go bald . I wish hurrem tried to do it to Mahidevran Remember how she beat hurrem in the episode it would of been a good fight with a worthy opponent 😂😂😂🎉😂😂🎉
Despite her being in a deranged state, Hatice was right on one thing, regarding Hurrem: there's no neutral party with her. Either you serve her or you're an enemy she will humble or ruin
Admittedly, I truly think that's the kind of mind state that the culture of the empire enforces onto people. Even Mahidevran, along with Hatice and her sisters, behave in the same way.
Yep that's basically every major character in this show except the ones too weak or naive to survive.
Hatice could have been neutral but no she fought for Ibrahim. Even sah could have been neutral. Her earlier days in the palace.
@@shrutiiyer9531 they could. But how long until they were being approached by the quarreling parties? Either Mahidevran would have tried to recruit them into her coalition or Hurrem would.
"There's no such thing as neutrality here. It's us vs them. And may the God protect you from me, if you choose them." I hear them saying in their attempts to"convince" you to join the "right" side
they're all the same, that's how they survived back then.. pick a side and live.. be neutral or die from one of the two sides.
When mihrima said "you can't tell me what to do"
Lol hurrem face was so funny she's like "damn girl chill. You did not just say that.😯" Hahahahahah
Lol hurrem looks so proud of her 😅
Hurrem be like "That's my Giwll!"
Shameless like her mother……… Proud of wt, wt Hurem has taught her Daughter, to be Merciless like her mother……….. Hate both of them
What kills me about all this is the women in this show (which I am obsessed with and all the actors and actresses are flipping amazing and because I binge watch I’ve picked up little phrases in Turkish!!) is Hatice, Mahidevran, Fatima, Valide, etc do awful horrible things to Hurrem. Then when she retaliates they are like “OH POOR ME WHY IS SHE SO MEAN??”
Hurrem has her own bad moments, but I really do see mostly her retaliating for horrible treatment.
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I agree. Most people hate Hurrem because she manages to retaliate their horrible treatment tenfold worse than they did to her lol So they felt like she was the evil one when the fact is she merely defended herself or tried to stay ahead in their politics game. They didn't understand that part and that's what i like about her. If they tried to imagine where Hurrem didn't succeed to def herself then they will realize how cruel they were to Hurrem. We got used to watching the villains bullied the lead char so much that they barely do anything to stand up for themselves while Hurrem is diff. She is capable of defending herself well and i love that they didnt make her an innocent type of girl that always got bullied and do nothing lol
Hurrem learned these things from the best, all the evil people of this dynasty. They burn her, beat her up. try to kill her and she is not supposed to react?
The one person who I believed tried to be neutral was Bali Bey Mackojkolu although there were many attempts to get him on one side or another. For everyone else, it was a dog eat dog world. Eat or be eaten.
you gotta love Bali bey, he tried his best to just serve justly but because he fell for the wrong girl he almost lost it all
I really hope that servant was sent home with that gold for all her troubles. She deserves to be free after what she’s been through.
I'm certain they executed her
Hürrem was brilliant here. And because of the bias of the royal family towards servants, they ignored Nigar kalfa when she blatantly told them that it was completely possible that Hürrem was laying a larger trap. I mean, who served who for yrs? Who would know a person better than the ppl that serve them? They walked into the trap perfectly and it led Süleyman to finally accept his horrid sister was crazy and to send her off, which was Hürrem’s ultimate goal 😘👌🏾😂 Hürrem sultan forever ❤️
She destroyed her forever, she just ruined Shah Sultan reputation after. People found her husband beat her off, lost her power in Divan. After that, Mihrimah cleaned the house of rats and trash (Sending Shah forever and getting rid of Nigar) ☠️☠️🤣🤣🤣
I think you did not watch the ending
Hürrem got her well deserved just deserts in the end. Struck down slow and painfully but the Almighty.
How could you support Wickedness as a human being. Hadice is a victim here. Anyway, no way i can like Hurem.
I don't say that Mahidevran was perfect but all this things started to happen after entrance of Hurem in the harem with her obsession.
She coluld have eloped with her first love but she decided to kill him to remain with Suleyman. That's betrayal and selfishness.
I'll never support evil be it in a movie, serial, drama or real life situation.
@@richiusfrancisco9244 How is Hatice a victim in all this? It was said in this video that she tried to kill Hurrem once before because she blamed her for Ibrahim’s execution, which technically wasn’t really her fault at all. Ibrahim did many things that greatly tested Suleiman’s patience. From the very beginning, up until this point, Ibrahim lied, manipulated, bribed, coerced, blackmailed, or outright murdered to get what he wanted or to protect his own secrets and agendas.
First off, he lied to Suleiman about his secret affair with Hatice when he was questioned if he was hiding anything from him. When he finally confessed to Suleiman about his little Romeo and Juliet story with Hatice via letter, he tried to run away from what he did by fleeing back to his hometown of Parga, rather than face up to what he did like a man.
Secondly, Ibrahim decided to have a bust made of himself, intending to have many more created and distributed across the Ottoman lands for people to see, without the sultan’s knowledge or consent. By his own words, he said that he would ‘have them placed on all seven hills of the city (Istanbul) and across all three continents, where people will kneel or bow before them,’ supposedly implying that he was an equal to the sultan. In spite of that, Suleiman chose to forgive him again, even allowing him to keep his title of Grand Vizier.
Thirdly, when things were getting tough with his relationship with Hatice, especially after they had lost their second child, Ibrahim cheated on her with none other than Nigar kalfa. Furthermore, when Valide Sultan learned of this, the shock of the revelation caused her to collapse into a coma that resulted in her being paralyzed from the neck down, unable to speak, ultimately dying from her condition. In this, you could say that he had a significant role in the death of Suleiman’s own mother. Even when he cheated on Hatice again further down the line, Suleiman again chose to let him off easy.
I could go on, but I think we all get the picture. The person that Hatice was mourning for and wanted to get revenge for was just not the man she thought he was at all. Ibrahim was a man whose arrogance, pride, and selfishness far outgrew who she thought he was and he absolutely did not deserve her tears, anger, or love. She knew what kind of a person Ibrahim was in the end, but she chose to take her pain and grief out on Hurrem anyway, regardless of whether she was responsible for his death or not, regardless of Ibrahim’s own selfish actions and shortcomings.
All in all, say what you will about her, but Hatice was not innocent either, and she certainly was not a victim. She chose to play the ugly game and this is the consequence of her misguided anger and her inconsolable grief.
As a human being I shud actually feel sad for this state of Hatice, but thinking of all events - Insulting Hurrem from very beginning, Joining hands with Hafsa Sultan, Joining hands with Ibrahim, Joining hands with Mahidevran, Trying to kill her, insult her and throw her out in every given opportunity, Firuze, Isabella, etc etc.. They are just dearly paying back.. Her arrogance of being a Sultana is being shattered down..
Regarding Firuze or Isabella - it was such a culture back then, that sultan had a lot of women to sleep with. Hurrem looks like she went from another world (literally, cause born non-Muslim) and was like omg "why is sultan cheating on me". Hey that was the culture and all people out there were used to it. Even late Valide who did not like her late husband doing the same, had to accept it. Hurrem came there with her own rules and tried to change the culture.
I understand her as a woman from today of course, but back then it was widely believed sultan is obviously right to have a lot of concubines.
@Lavanya1229. She tried to make Suleyman whole for herself only and then she deserved all punishments and insults.
If she had no choce, she could have eloped with that love of hers (Lio) from the first place but she killed him for Suleyman.
How can you say that you understand. We can't bring Justice by avenging to people.
You should accept that Hurem was wicked.
Hadice was her friend from the start then how did she pay her, by blackmailing Ibrahim. Hadice wanted nothing in her life but Ibrahim and the what did she get, Hadice was the most desperate woman inspite of being a sultana with royal blood.
Hurrem was extremely negative character,she loves herself only n she did all for herself,seven her mother in her dream was angry on her,but ppl here defend her just cos of beauty of actress who played this role.hurem didn't love sultan,infact she was there for revenge from sultan,which she said in first episode, despite of the fact she was not kidnapped by sultan but she took revenge from sultan.n this show was too fake,they distorted history,one woman like hurrem was clever of all,how it is possible? Such woman can easily killed by valida sultan n they showed she can survive in every attack,foolish writer n foolish director.
This show was to degrade sultan Suleiman n Muslims,and to show the glory of non muslims.i think writer n director were not muslim
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Hurrem never truly saw Hatice as an enemy or even a formidable opponent. If anything, she saw her as pitiful. And she often felt pity for her wrong choice of attaching herself to Ibrahim Pasha and, in turn, used to propagate Mahidveran's interest. She had loved and respected Hatice. And at one point, saw her as a neutral entity in the game of thrones, albeit the fact that she was married to her sworn enemy. That is until the Sultana's pitiful attempts to "protect" her husband's interest pitted them against each other. Unlike her other siblings who stood against Hurrem, I don't think Hatice was motivated by championing Mustafa's cause as much as her extreme fear that Hurrem will one day do away with Ibrahim. Of course, she wasn't wrong in harboring that fear, but that reason made her look weak in the eyes of Hurrem.
She is so unthankful as hurrem helped her with an astrologer then saving her child and nigar with his husband she deserves this wese b
Yeah the whole drama between hatice and Hurrem is actually false. None of it ever happened.
Hatice never even married ibraham, nor did she love him.
She married another man who she loved dearly and when he passed away she did commit suicide. The whole drama of hurrem and hatice hating eachother wasn't a thing. They were actually really good friends the entire time. No drama, or hate involved.
Ibraham it was found married another woman actually.
@@kianaone2610That information wasn't available in 2011/2014 lol
I love how Hatice omitted the fact of why she got the beating. Like please tell the Sultan why. Ooh yes brother I put a black magic spell on your wife and she beat me up for it. Hatice lied!!! But she got what she deserved.
Yeah really for her hureem is her perfect karma
One look at Hurrem’s hands should solve the mystery for Suleiman.
love is blind after all, in literal sense for suleiman. he was blinded since the day hurrem walked into his life
@@chaiwithchipsYou are right. I can understand everything, even about Hatuce. But how could Suleiman had killed his oldest son???
I don't like that u hate her but I love and respect your intelligence, genius and smart
@chaiwithchips
She do a black magic on her and hurrem is not in her senses. She got what she planted.
She is so unthankful as hurrem helped her with an astrologer and saved her son, then telling truth of his husband, she did spell because she can't handle how her sister in law once used be a slave much happier than her even she had a pity feeling for her real evil her hatice
Hurrem was well superior to Gulfem but I feel sorry for her. Did Suleyman just send her away and forget about her when her son died of Smallpox? It must be hard for her to treat Hurrem and Mahidevran as her superiors when she was one day their equal, a favourite and mother of a Prince. She should have been a Sultan but she was forgotten just because her son died 😢
She would be equal to Mahidevran but not to hurrem bcs she is the solemnized wife of the sultan
no equal to hurrem but that's how it was in the Ottoman dynasty.if you only have one son, if he dies you are basically worthless
@@aligator216 I agree
Women were object, slaves in that era.
Hurrem is proud of Mirhimah at the same time she wants to protect her too 😅
mihrima is the daughter of the current sultan, her aunts are only his sisters, their sultan father is already dead so mihrimah really outranks all her aunts here. and what kind of a child would allow anyone to humiliate their own mother .
Obviously
Never both shah and Hatice outranks hurrem and mihrimah
@@SmartHd-hw3tyno they don't because hurrem is the legal wife of suleman and Mihriama is the daughter of suleman so which makes her powerful she already the next throne to valide
@@weneedcookies4756 they are in a culture in which they are supposed to respect their elders, so Mirimah would have to respect her aunts and they would be above her due to age.
Literally could have finished the job and had Hatice inconspicuously killed (i.e stage to make it look like she unalived herself) whilst she was out in the woods, but apparently her plot armor was too strong.
It was more about ruining the perception of Hatice to Süleyman. Hürrem needed him to believe that she was losing her mind after the death of Ibrahim. She knew that the only way he would have been able to part with his sister was to believe that sending her off was in HER best interest. Hürrem was brilliant here lol. And the evidence that was laid by Sümbül ağa? I mean ride or die FRFR 🤣🤣🤣
To be honest, I think Hürrem resisted doing that precisely because of it seeming to be the easy solution. Gülfem, really, makes that clear when she claims that, no matter what, she'll believe Hürrem to be guilty. If Hatice's death had been staged in such a way, the suspicion would still linger that she had, in fact, been murdered, which could impact Hürrem negatively. Instead, with Hatice alive but thoroughly discredited, Hürrem is in the clear no matter how others might suspect.
I think they didn’t end her that quickly because they have to make sure Hatice died during the same year that the real Hatice Sultana died in history. During this time is probably not the time when the real history Hatice died in. They probably plan on making the characters death timeline slightly accurate to real history.
@@kylelee3724 They've shat on historical accuracy soooooo many times throughout the show but they needed to keep death dates accurate? Naahhh
@@princess7jasmine I only really pull out the, "Well, the show couldn't stretch history _that_ far..." for things like Ibrahim's infidelity being forgiven. In regards to this, I actually don't think it applies, in large part due to the fact that the show has absolutely played around with the historical dates of events before (ex: Selim is depicted as being born during Ibrahim's marriage to Hatice; except Selim was born in 1524 when Ibrahim's wedding occurred in a full year earlier in 1523). Not to mention, we actually don't know how the real Hatice died so there's plenty of room to play around as a writer there.
I am amazed. Hurrem was very cunning and smart. She was just a slave. First she made her place in Sultan heart, then got herself free , then married him . And then ruled
Pretty impressive. And Sultan always believe her some how
Hatice black magic turns to herself..
Allah gives her her rewards that she deserves in the form of hurrem
She just invoked Allah's name- yet Shah talks to her like she's a psychiatrist and Hatije is her patient. Unbelievable.
No matter what she have done. Its devastating to see a sultana being abused this bad
Really, they all conspired against Hurrem. They got magicians to cast black magic on her. She was hallucinating and going crazy. What Hurrem did to all of them is what they asked for.
@@moonsyummydelights5976 there's no such thing call back spell it's just a stupid believe back then
@@dhana7191 It is possible they fed her with some hallucinogenics though.
Seeing Hatice bloodied and covered in bruises breaks my heart 😢😢
@@leoswiftie I agree. I just get offended to see such a pretty face bloodied and covered in bruises
@@ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣΑΜΑΝΑΤΙΔΗΣ-β7μShe's evil, she did an ultimate sin, black magic. She's evil, worse than Nurbanu, Halime Sultan, Safiye. Worse.
@@leoswiftiehell no who started it was hurrum who did it
@@leoswiftie keep liking her you’re self
unreasonable hilarious. its beyond me how many of y'll like that diabolical woman and for what? for how corrupt she was? or show she manipulated suleiman at every chance she got? made others suffer because they made her suffer once upon a time? or for spilling the blood of the innocents? i get that she is intelligent but goodness her sins outweigh all the good she did. even ibrahim did good doesnt change the fact that he was malicious and cunning too. @@leoswiftie
She is an excellent actor hatice
But her expression 🤮
Mihrima is such a good daughter, Hurrem was sad once she was born, but it turned out that little girl was the most loyal to her mother, always standing up for her.
Bro, I want a daughter like Mihrima!💔💔💔
Those weird beds must have been really hard to put a sick or weak person in.
It's like a crib for an adult. 😊
Hatice was looking like a zombie 😂
a sultana looks and tastes like a raisin but is lighter in color and has a more delicate flavor.
Oh dear😂. Yes it's popular in dishes here in South Africa. 🤭
Mihrimah is right. Who is Shah to talk?
A Sultana!
@@rowannaendose9178 below her
@@rowannaendose9178mihrimah sultan outranks her
Who is Mihrimah?
@@izas5768 suleimans only sultana. She outranks shah
All these womens wanted to rid Hurrem since she cought the eye of Sulejman. But she was smart & fight for his love for Sulejman & his kids.
ah yeah, this is about her "love" for Suleiman. How old are you, 12? lol
Lol for love?? for power actually 😂
Shah and Hatice are so jealous and whiny! It’s fun to watch Hurrem outsmart them.
Hurrem used all her so called friends. Hatice was her friend in the beginning but Hurrem sold her out to Sultan alongside with Ibrahim; Nigar was tossed out after her betrayal; however even when she served Hurrem she was not protected from Mahidevran. Rustem; Nilufer; Maria... all at best could have served Hurrem but they were used like the objects. To serve her purpose.
Literally not what happened but go off I guess.
Perfectly said
Hurrem just used evreyone then threw them when no longer wanted them
Narcissist
@@Aliaakaramm So, you can only respond to "yes men" of yours? I'm shocked.
@@Aliaakaramm Keep lying I guess
@@Redluna32 Yeah. Honestly Shosho's behaviour is completely pathetic.
just because "hurrem is the mother of 5 of my children" she is the most purest, sinless, the most pious lady to ever exist, suleiman only has this reason when anyone accuses hurrem of anything. like for once believe or even consider that the other person might be saying the truth
Oh if Sulejman would know what & how many times they wanted to hurt Hurrem then Sultan would killed them all in one day.
Exactly, that wicked sultan was tricked by that witch hurrem
I must applaud Hurrem for this.
Ohh ellerin dert görmesin Hürrem❤
What you reap you sow
Gulfem was loyal towards all dynasty members
Except hurrem
She was against Hurrem like everyone else. 😅
The cost of her self respect and so loyal tried to kill sultan wah
Really a good show 👍😁
If valida hafsa sultan was alive she would of have sliced hurrem into tinniest pieces .. she wouldn't of have let hurrem live after this incident
When they wrong Hurrem it's great! When she avenges back OMG she is a devil. Uhnm hypocrites indeed.
hurrem crossed certain lines that valide never crossed. sympathised with her in the initial episode but the moment she encroached on valide's chamber right after getting evicted mahidevran for the same was the most hypocritiv moment of all. not to mention the constant slandering of ibrahim and mustafa. hurrem was a devilish, diabolical immoral woman.@@jojojohanna3349
No she would not she would obey the sultan since harrum is his legal wife.
if valida hafsa alive, hatice and hureem will be friends,bcs valida died because of ibrahim scandal😂
@@karinaashmon lol you wish valida would throw her to wolves
They could have checked hurrem for bruises on her knuckles
Hurrem is such a evil character and sultan suleiman do no justice with her sisters as he executed ibrahim but not rustem executed mahidevrain son mustafah not hurrem sons .he just blindly trusted on hurrem i think he is cruel ruler
Hurrem is evil but not hatice?
She was just the best at surviving a very toxic system.
Hurrem was evil you guys should admit it pls
Should be grateful she didn't kill her
mustafa never advocated for mahidevran like mihrimah does and yet mustafa is blamed for protecting mahidevran. atleast that man was smart enough to pick and fight is own battles and not just set a target on someone's back because they had an animosity with their mother
The ancient price of black witchcraft... you pay thrice to yourself for what you inflict.
I feel so sorry for Sultan Suleiman
Agree or not, sultan was so useless. Even women were doing conspiracies right under her nose😂
Which episode is this?
Nigar had so much potential, now she's a dog following behind Sultanas who never respected or treated her with an once of kindness. Hurrem loved Nigar and she stabbed her in the back over Ibrahim smh The nerve of Nigar to team up with the Sultans sisters especially Hatice who kept her daughter away from her!!
😢Hatice served hurrem alot
Some narcissists will gaslight, deflect, project, verbally assault, or experience a narcissistic collapse. Depending on the severity of the injury, others may become physically aggressive or incredibly dangerous.Victims of narcissist abuse syndrome may display signs of emotional abuse, physical abuse, psychological abuse, verbal abuse, and domestic abuse. Victims in abusive relationships experience emotional and sometimes physical damage....خhurrem narcissistic...
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@Dreamfyre redluna aka shiyvres
@Dreamfyre you must seek a doctor your mental health is problematic
She is so unthankful as hurrem helped her with an astrologer and saved her son, then telling truth of his husband, she did spell because she can't handle how her sister in law once used be a slave much happier than her even she had a pity feeling for her real evil her hatice
Hatis narcissistic*
@@Aydan2108 hurrem
Had Sultan not been blind to Hurrem's beauty and sexiness any urders could be avoided.
how courageously hurrem hurrem lied..
How did Hurrem plan all this 😂
I feel you😂😂. Well, she had the idea and trusted servants. Money is a currency that bought silence and plot twists perfectly 😂😂😂
Ay canim mihrimah
Poor Hatice. Cruel hurrem fans Reunion start
Poor hatice?💀
nicely repaired , hatica sultan, by hurrem👌👌👌😀😝😝🤣🤣🤣
Her depression medicine is hurrem
Hatice got what she deserved. She did black magic on hurrem now she got it back
i don't about the real hurrem but this show hurrem abused suleiman's love for her like anything. istg the way i hate this woman. although real hurrem was cunning and allegedly involved in the executions of ibrahim and mustafa so maybe really she was as evil and cold hearted as she is shown in the show. suleiman is a puppet in the hands of his so called love
No they made her like that she was a big mouth small baby all her in laws trained her like that
Suleiman is the one who abused hurrem's love
This is just a soap opera...I believe in real life,most likely,Sulaiman was madly in love with hurrem...he raised her up from slave to Sultana, and she was one of the most powerful woman,or person,in the ottoman empire..
what I'm getting is that when Hatice's husband died her brain went into what doctors would call a MENTAL BRAKE DOWN
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This scene of Hadice made me hate Hurem from the serial to the real life. How can someone be this wicked, she killed so many people. I would rather be a poor man who lead a normal life than being a heartless and wicked person like Hurem for the sake of power and love.
Ever since she entered the harem, she created the war among sultanas. Maybe if she wasn't there, Suleyman could spend life with concubines with out oppressing anyone.
I hate Hurem to the core.
With Hurrem's mindset being the slave Anastasia, what's the first rule of survival in enemy territory, learn their ways and use it against them.
Hurrem was evil and manipulative 😢
Pieprzysz glupoty
Did i just saw osman bey in 12:07
The king love the hurrem so much his love forgive everything what she did wrong she won the king heart and killed most of king favourite even her own child what a stupid crazy love is that
What actually happened Here ? Who did this to Hatice ?
Hurrem is really devil,waste character,
11:58
Come here woman?
😂
Kalau dikira kekejaman hurrem membunuh lebih ramai orang dan seharusnya dia menderita diakhir hidupnya .sama seperti mehrimah sampai tua tidak bahagia
Hurem is killer
As she should 😘
the hurrem gets away with literally everything irritates me so much
lets be real no one got away as much as mihrimah and hurrem did@Dreamfyre-mv8wr
Because she has a brain 🧠
Stay mad 😘
@@al-wassiuulaleem9500 It's not brain It's Suleiman who believes Hurrem in everything he's blind in Hurrem's seductive love even if she does wrong
After this hatice did black magic on hureem, i think..?
No she did it before now after this she'll kidnapped her and killed her self it's almost 11 years hurrem was on search I don't know why hatice is so evil. She is so unthankful as hurrem helped her with an astrologer and saved her son, then telling truth of his husband, she did spell because she can't handle how her sister in law once used be a slave much happier than her even she had a pity feeling for her real evil her hatice
Devil Hurrem did it
And hatice and Shah sultan are so clean like a saint or an angel? Ok bro nice 👍
Hatice sama do tego doprowadziła
@Dreamfyrebut hurrem killed a lot of hatun and also mustafa
@@yeesayaaina859 Mahidevran killed Mehmet
Hatice is so unthankful & real devil as hurrem helped her with an astrologer and saved her son, then telling truth of his husband, she did spell because she can't handle how her sister in law once used be a slave much happier than her even she had a pity feeling for her real evil her hatice. Now she did black magic to her cause her faith involved and be kafir is justice thing foh u wow🎉
ქალის ძალა დიდი არის, თვით ყოვლისოყრობელიც გააბითურა, მე მაინც არ მომწონს ჰიურემი, არ არის კარგი ქალი ,მატყუარაა,ისეთივე ცუდია როგორც სხვები,უბრალოდ დაამხო და დაახურა თავზე სულთანს, ეს კოზირი აქვს
The one who is going to he crazyhis the sultan 😅😅😅😅😅
I really hate hurrem in this season
You should be mistaken for hating Hurrem here. Hurrem is put down and humbled
hurrem is crazy
thisbis what I'm talking about
Hatice never lost her mind even when she was beaten to the ground, she still remembered everything that Hurrem did on her. Hurrem ruined the life of Hatice and has gone too far against her former best friend.
This episode is when I lost total respect for Hurrem.
Lolwhut
lol why, she beat hatice up only because she was under a spell that hatice herself put on her, what the hell did she expect
My respect for Hurrem grew bigger
@@smilebackattrashcanHAHAHAHAHAHA
@@Lucasssssssss_ eveything ok with u dude ? Or mental like Hatice?
Poor hetice here but in real life she didnt marry Ibrahim. And never bsttlef hurrem
Tradu in romina
Mahal to nahi poora kunjer khana tha sultan Suleman ka mahal
Osman bey 😂
He should never...hav e bern
Look at that khatuns mouth 😅
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ah mihrimah gets that big mouth and impudence from young hurrem i see, like mother like daughter
"no my mother would do nothing like this." mihrimah darling you should've seen how y our mother poisoned and ruined her bestfriend's face back in the day and then a princess and then firuze.
They got their medicine hurrem is real queen
No lugar de Hurrem eu faria até pior,todos ali são hipócrita. E nesse tempo mais ainda um sultão omisso pois ele sempre soube quem cada um era .desde que fosse conveniente Pará ele como todo homem gostava quando Hurrem lutava pelo amor dele ela só pagou na mesma moeda.quem com ferro fere com ferro será ferido !
Hurrem was evil and selfish. All about herself. Well later when you read about her fam all her kids some died and some had an awful life. Her evil doings brought lot of suffering. Shame on her anger and selfishness
1. This is just series
2. If a woman wanted to survive in harem she had to be strong and fight only for herself.
Hurrem memang ular
Хю спятила
Oh damn
Хюррем как могла бить так??ужас просто
Hugem là thảm họa của đất nước
I don't know why hatice has no power to fight back either she is malnourished or doesn't eat much 😂😂😂 getting beaten up by another women who already is fainting I wish she fought back and pulled hurrems Hair and make her go bald . I wish hurrem tried to do it to Mahidevran Remember how she beat hurrem in the episode it would of been a good fight with a worthy opponent 😂😂😂🎉😂😂🎉
Hurem dobrze wiedziała co robi pozwoliła aby mahidevran ją pobiła 😂dobra taktyka