The part that makes this scene so painful to watch is that Hurrem has no idea that vial was a sedative. As she grew more and more tired, she thought that sensation was death. I can only imagine her fear and panic. The actress does an amazing job of showing that.
this is the first time I have heard a king ask one of his subjects to kill themselves for him was that a test of his cause I don't quite understand said test if that's what it was
@@nerdygeekgamer5528the test was that mustafa told him “why someone who is dying would lie in their last moment?” So he wanted to test if she will confess before dying
This is the scene that defined the future of the dinasty. The scene that Suleiman realised that the most loyal person to him was Hurrem. When Hurrem declared that she doesn’t care about a future that Suleiman isn’t in it ,it was all over. Hurrem acted smart, because no matter what, a ruler doesn’t need people who correct him and doubt him but people who agree and worship him, Hurrem did that. From this scene forward, no matter what crime Hurrem would commit, i knew she would be protected by Suleiman, because she was a reflection of him. That’s why people started hating her, messing with Hurrem was like messing with Suleiman himself, it was impossible. She won his heart, she lived inside him, but by doing that, Suleiman never knew that later she would be able to dictate and control his actions. Hurrem ruled everything!
And not only this. Suleiman strongly believed that people in last moments speak only true. And she warned him about cruelty of Ibrahim and Mahidevran. 2 closest persons to oldest prince. Firs time his face changes - he saw it is not only jealousy between them, but fear for her kids. After this he start to look more carefuly to Ibrahim and also to his relation with prince Mostafa which he liked before.This is moment that changes everything. And actually Hurem didn't have what to loose. If she refused poison she would lost his trust. This willl lead to her end. She recognize that, Ibrahim didn't. He believed Sultan would never hurt him , becouse he was too much important. But sharp mind of queen understood this in 1 second , she did smart choice to take back trust which means to keep his love even if this means to die immidiatelly - but loved. Not like Ibrahim died- without even graveyard after all they went through. He didn't recognize what is going on in Sultans mind all year before he finally killed him.
That’s the difference between her and Mahidevran. She’s beauty and brains as opposed to Mahidevran who is relies only on her beauty and lies to get what she wants. She’s snobby and lets others think for her.
Mustafa is much smarter than his mother, playing the long game. He set out to win the hearts of Hurrem's sons and he did. And he grew to truly care for his brothers. In the end, Hurrem wished he had been her son as well so they wouldn't have been at odds with each other. (And before anyone complains, I'm commenting on the show, not history.)
Ibrahim told Mustafa to win his brother heart. He told him to gain their trust and make them love him so that when the time came they would not fight him. Ibrahim did the exact same to the Sultan until he became big headed.
R u sure he truly cared?? (In the show) when he got a slight doubt that seleyman want mehmat as next sultan.. when suleyman gave his ring to mehmat not mistafa.. he got all mad.. no regard to his brother or father.. 😅😅 his true intention were all out.. the moment he realised selim wont bow to him and suleyman can make selim king.. then mustafa with bayezid decided to remove selim.. 😅😅
Hurrem understood the assignment When you love someone some truths are best kept secret Suleiman was expecting to confess that she committed the crime, just like others who do in order to be given a second chance, or to skip dates but she didn’t, which made him believe that she was innocent. She is indeed a smart woman.
when i watch each episode im like why did hurrem do that . and there deep strategy behind everything she did . she understood that the ALLMIGHTY ALLAH SUBHANAHU WA TA'ALA got her to this castle seeing her true potential and wrote her destiny and "at all cost never was she going to waste an opportunity to become closer to what God Almighty had destined her to be . that is why she really developed the ability to brainstorm in stress situations .
I just realized that the ones accusing Hurrem of these awful crimes don't present any EVIDENCE or PROOF that it was her who actually orchestrated these crimes to be committed having proof and evidence helps when someone accuses someone else of a CRIME they just expect the Sultan the king to take their word as their proof and believe them
Notice how when Suleiman allows her to make a wish, Hurrem simply asks for a hug. She had the chance to ask for something grand, but she again reassures him of her love and loyalty by asking for nothing but his affection. This ensures Suleiman will never be able to trust anyone as he trusts Hurrem. Every time he considers cutting her lose, this moment will rescue Hurrem every time.
I think this is the point of the show where Suleiman develops his full trust in Hurrem. This act of love and utter devotion is the moment where he realizes Hurrem is his one and only. All the time before this scene it was a he said she said and Suleiman felt it necessary to come to Hurrem's defense purely out of love. I'm sure he was wondering uo until that point whether Hurrem could be trusted or if she was just like the others, cunning and manipulative. The test proved to him that was not the case. Her drinking the poison is, in my mind, the exact moment where Suleiman learns to trust Hurrem once and for all. And that trust doesn't ever go away from beyond this point until he dies
But that doesn't take away the fact that she tried to kill his son I know it was based on survival and she did not imagine no one else in the throne while Suleiman was alive unlike mahidrevan that every time Suleiman got sick she was preparing the seat for her son. if Suleiman knew that hurrem was actually trying to kill his son he wouldn't of spared her so easily she just never folded to tell the truth and always got out of the situation.
This was incredibly calculating on Suleiman’s part. He’s not unaware of all the plotting and scheming that goes on behind his back. But with this, he knew once and for all who loved him and who was manipulating him. Hurrem was incredibly devious in a lot of ways. But you can’t say she didn’t love him. And she proved it.
Even hatice and valide and ibrahim knew this.. thats why they were afraid.. that hurrem with her genuine and true love can make all them lose.. by ruling suleymans heart
If I were Suleiman, I'd have been more than a little interested in the fact that aside from asking him to protect their children from Mahidevran, who most certainly would have had them killed once Suleiman died, she wanted him to protect their children from Ibrahim. I mean, these are, so far as she believes, her dying words. She obviously chose them to be meaningful. Suleiman expected to hear that she considered Mahidevran a threat, I'm sure, but Ibrahim? That would have sent alarm bells going off in my head if it were me.
Yup, it also bothered me that he did not react to this at all. Like come on, she thinks that this is the end and her last words are sure to be honest. Should not he be at least a lil bit concerned?
I had the same thought when watching it for the first time. Like, sure, okay, this couldn't be used to bring about Ibrahim's end yet as it'd be significantly ahead of schedule, but it's odd that it just never comes up again at all. Even when Suleiman is remembering all of the reasons he has to be suspicious of Ibrahim, it's never brought up. Which, given how, by now Suleiman's had dreams/nightmares of Mustafa becoming sultan with Ibrahim almost controlling him, it seems like a wasted opportunity not to pursue the affect this'd have.
In true love, there is absolute loyalty and faithfulness. I remember he said to someone at a later time that he knew Hurrem had faults, but he also knew she was completely loyal to him.
Mustafa to Suleyman: why would a dying woman lie? Suleyman to himself: I'm going to test that theory. Hurrem speaks her "dying" words. Suleyman to himself: why would a dying woman lie? Case closed.
That glance says it all, he totally planned on manipulation of some aort and also using them against Hurrem at the very least. Even if he didn't kill them, all of his supporters would especially Mahi
Looks like Suleiman was really smart doing that poison test. He was trying to see if Hurrem actually tried to kill Mustafa to help her own kids become Sultan. By asking Hurrem to drink the 'poison', he was not only testing her loyalty to him but also proving that she values nothing, not even her own children, over him. So, when she drank it, she cleared herself of the poisoning plot against Mustafa. Even though she actually planned to poison the prince, it's her love and loyalty for Suleiman that saved her.
The Firuze story arc might be a bit unlikely but it is really enjoyable & entertaining to watch if you give it a chance. But I am not a fan of the Isabella story arc @@thehunchbackgirl
But this is an actual take on history itself. The Ottoman Empire did exist at one point in time. Everyone in the Magnificent Century show did exist at one point in time. So what took place between the Saltan and Hurrem and Firuze and Princess Isabella actually happened. You can research the Ottoman Empire and Hurrem and everyone on this show for yourself. This show is history in action as it happened. Much like Laura Ingalls Wilder and Little House On The Prairie series (both the books and tv show).
Firuze died between 1608 & 1613 Princess Isabella otherwise known as Isabella Jagiellon was queen consort of Hungary Suleiman saw Hungary as a vessel state of the Ottoman Empire she was born January 18 1519 & died September 15 1559 Hurrem Saltana died April 15 1558 she was brought to the Ottoman Empire as a slave. Married Saltan Sulieman. Had all their children. Saltan Sulieman Ruled the Ottoman Empire from 1520 to 1566 Born November 1494 Died September 1566 Mahidevran Saltana Was favorite concubine of Sulieman until Herrum came. Son Mustafa. Died February 1581 Mustafa Oldest son of Sulieman. Mother Mahidevran Born 1515 Died October 6 1553 Hatice Sister to Sulieman Died December 31 1543 Ibriham Grand Vizier of the Ottoman Empire Died March 15 1536 As you can see these people did in fact exist at one point in time. You can find their pictures and biographies on google. You can also look up videos on the history of the Ottoman Empire on TH-cam. Please educate yourself on history and what it actually is before preaching. I am a huge history buff and I study history in my spare time. And I take the time too look up history like the Ottoman Empire.
8:30 She said this and when she was actually dying she was looking at his Suleiman face and took her last breathe in his arms...and she even ended mahi and Ibrahim far before. TRUE QUEEN👑
Mahidevran: *does something devious meant to harm Hurrem or her children* Heinous act: *blows up in Mahidevran's face* Mahidevran: HURREM DID IT! Suleiman: you're such a f'ing liar, Mahidevran. Get out. Mahidevran: HURREM HAS RUINED MY LIIIIFFFEEEEE
In the first episode, when mahideveran first shows up with mustafa and the sultan is too busy, I could sympathize with mahidevern. That went south right away after she showed her mean streak and would just start crying at the drop of a hat. She's also a bit of a coward.
Mustafa was such an asset to their empire (smart handsome brave charismatic well loved and a good soldier) his mother could’ve kept him alive longer if she didn’t insist on him being king - feel sorry for Mustafa 😢
If Hurrem was able to speak with Mustafa and get close to him they would have loved and respected each other but mahidevron poisoned any chance of that. Hurrem never got the chance to know the goodness and kindness of Mustafa.
Süleyman: Hürrem, I love y- Who's that 👀 Or Yes, I 💯 absolutely banish her.( I believe you person I KNOW doesn't like Hürrem ) ⬇️ Oh no , I'm dying/she's dying,I can't live without Hürrem. Recites poetry and confesses his love ⬇️ Repeats the cycle ⤴️ - Oops I did it again😅, The saga by series Süleyman
Mustafa died because of too much greed and ambition in power of his mother Mahidevran Hatun but they are always blaming Hurrem sultan for all the terrible things happened to them....😅
People talk about how loyal was Hürrem to Suleyman, blame Mahidevran about terrible things she had, but when Hürrem tried to poison Mustapha through Efsun, while Cihangir was sick, everything is alright! Hürrem made all of these to survive, but Mahidevran not! Hürrem didn't want power for her and her kids, she loved Suleyman only!
@@daydreamer_55 Mahidevran had her faults too, but this didn't make Hürrem less guilty! Hürrem lied many times to Suleyman when she wasn't innocent and used her kids, especially Mihrimah, to get what she wanted!
@@Jayy_sad I'm talking about the other side too! Mahidevran yes, she wasn't innocent! Hürrem wasn't innocent too! But people focus in Mahidevran's actions, while Hürrem did and thought the same things! She did evil things too! It doesn't matter the priority! Even if Mahidevran didn't plan to kill Mehmet or the other Hürrem's sons, Hürrem surely would have in her mind Mustafa's killing!!
Suleiman was a coward that he never tested his sisters,concubines& ibrahim' s loyalty the way he did with hurrem repeatedly Whatever happened when he,ibrahim n valide knew that mahi tried to poison suleiman& hurrem when she was pregnant with 1st child?? Wat was that called?? Wasnt that a murder..a cruelty?? Did suleiman& ibrahim forget that??
I was surprised when it turned out Sulaiman was just testing Hurrem’s conviction by leaving it up to her willingness to drink the fake poison😂 that’s all it took to reinforce his trust in her lol
There is a scene coming up that I love, where Suleiman is questioned about Hurrem's loyalty. Sulieman gets angry and defends Hurrem. He tells them that Hurrem drank poison for him, or he says something like that. Love that scene.
Tbf mahidevran and mustafa gave him a solid argument: near the death's door, efsun would not lie. That's why suleyman did it. He wanted to know what Hurrem would say when she's at the death's door
This was more to try and put his harem in order again. He trusted Hurrem but knew there'd be no peace for Mustafa and mahidevran if he did nothing. This test was enough to silence them, they had no proof beyond the dying words of his concubine that no other heard
I just think that was really cruel of him to do that to her. The look of betrayal and confusion in her eyes when she realizes that he tricked her and made her believe he would kill her. That was cruel.
Сулейман сволочь! Так жалко Хюррем! Потом еще лаского говорит, глаза закатывает после такого поступка! Плюнуть хочется, слюны жалко! А Хюррем еще обнимается...надо было здесь его проучить так же жестко! Как он!
Allas!!! Suleiman was grabbed by his heart in that delicate matter about Mustafa's life... No doubt nobody like Mustafa was to be so obedient to Suleiman... If the matter is about worshipping him with no objection in Suleiman's godship then Mustafa was a single angel in there with no doubt... Hurrem engulfed that liquid when she were bottlenecked and had no choice left. She the stubborn and strong headed woman... Was she comparable to Shahzady Mustafa?!!! Never!!! Its just sleak to compare Hurram with Suleiman's own blood but he unfortunate king was just the slave of his heart, A Russian concubine... And that lead to a ultimate disaster of his magnificence...
Honestly making hurrem drink poison was a useless move because when she poisoned mustafa she wasn't hurting sulieman anyway . It doesn't benefit her to hurt the sultan as he is the source of her power , love and fairytales aside.
Yes, he would! Watch next series and you’ll understand Mustafa’s greed and ambitions. He is actually training by Ibrahim, to be cold thinker and cold killer
I don't understand why people like Hurrem. She's such a snake, she tried to poison the innocent Sehzade but got away with it. Such mischiefs were common for her to do, and EVERYTIME she got away with it. The only gud thing about her is her loyalty to the Sultan. It's true, and the ONLY POSITIVE SIDE OF HERS. People say she was strong, indeed she was. She was a strong snake. By harming others for nothing, she became strong 👏👏
There are no innocents in this game for the throne. Mustafa isn't an innocent victim as fans like to preach. Not Hürrem, not mahidevran , Ibrahim, mirimah, hafsa, Hatice, Suleiman etc. They all did/do something that advanced their interest/survival.
hurrem was treated like a rat when she first came into the palace tho?? everyone was a snake at some point too. EVERYONE harmed each other. hurrem HAD to be protect her children. her charities are still being one till this day btw.
I think because he truly loved her, but was holding back a little bit so once she proved how much she loved him, he could finally let his heart embrace her fully, and trust her fully. I don’t think he loved Mahidevran enough to even go through this. He didn’t care about her because he already knew that she was disloyal, and I tried to kill him.
16:09 & people took side of Mustafa he is a weak men, with high lvl of low self esteem, full of greed & full of dishonesty with dsytany . Where as hureem children weren't like her that, that's how Mustafa deserve to die & now after hearing this I believe that he might b betrayal with his dad to became a king he is so desperate to be the one & this greed is clearly shown on that series
@@hurremsultanas the only thing that would have saved Mustafa by the time he died would have been him turning over his entire household, including his mother and his wife for treason. I mean EVERYONE. by that point, everyone in that household EXCEPT Mustafa was engaged in treasonous conspiracy against the ruling Sultan, and no ruler who expected to remain alive would let that stand. and even THAT might not have worked given how far the conspiracy had spread. he might not have personally issued the orders, but by the point he died, things had progressed to where that didn't MATTER. mahedievran taught her son that the sultan was his father first, and ruler second. which is what ultimately got him killed. and the fratricide law means that any hostility between the princes has to WAIT until the death of their father and the succession struggle takes place. any moves BEFORE that point is flat out treason and will be treated as such. which is what got Bayezed killed.
@@helenafarkas4534 Thank you!!! Somebody with some sense gets it. Mustafa was acting like a sultan while his father THE SULTAN was still alive. In the Ottoman Empire a prince can't act or do the things Mustafa was doing.
When Hurrem told him to kill her, she had already given him children. This was the episode where the Russian concubines were gifted to the Sultan. This time, WHY would she admit while dying this thing she did. It would endanger her children 😅 She's "dying" she just wants to spend that time reminding him she loved him. He didn't say, "Kill yourself OR tell me the truth." He was holding her to her word of doing anything for him. She was going to die for him anyway. 😅 Her mind works differently from others. Once she was done with the who was lying and did you do it, conversation, she moved onto just him and her. She calculated the risk to her family and the man she loved, from whom she got her power, and she chose to do the only thing she knew to do. Lean into his power. It saved her. Even better, she breaks as soon as he tells her the choices are die today or live without me. She breaks him by telling him that just his choices prove she is nothing to him, that kills her anyway. Now the ball is his court so to speak. Now he will reward her and compensate for his "mistake" and her enemies will truly suffer that loss of trust. She may not have intended it but she is his "shadow"
@@Borntobekpoper Mahidevran beat Hurrem for something she had no fault for. Hurrem beat Hatice because she was drugged by the substances Hatice provided, so funny enough Hatice’s plan backfired (literally) in her face. Hurrem was smart enough to never do something like that consciously, so the person you should blame for the beating is Hatice herself.
@@reneejones5675that is not a helpful comment. They give you a brief description of the episode and a link to ALL the episodes. They specifically wanted an episode number.
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The part that makes this scene so painful to watch is that Hurrem has no idea that vial was a sedative. As she grew more and more tired, she thought that sensation was death. I can only imagine her fear and panic. The actress does an amazing job of showing that.
Brave Harth Hurem❤
The acting in this show does impress me from time to time. Meryem is a fantastic actress. Mahidevran's actress is very talented as well
It made me so emotional it made me feel the pain in the confusion of wondering if he didn't love her and giving in
this is the first time I have heard a king ask one of his subjects to kill themselves for him was that a test of his cause I don't quite understand said test if that's what it was
@@nerdygeekgamer5528the test was that mustafa told him “why someone who is dying would lie in their last moment?” So he wanted to test if she will confess before dying
This is the moment he knew who truely loved him and who didnt.
Who didnt? XD
@@izas5768 Mahisnake. Stood beside him and told him to hurry up and die. He remembers everyone being there and what they said.
This is the scene that defined the future of the dinasty. The scene that Suleiman realised that the most loyal person to him was Hurrem. When Hurrem declared that she doesn’t care about a future that Suleiman isn’t in it ,it was all over. Hurrem acted smart, because no matter what, a ruler doesn’t need people who correct him and doubt him but people who agree and worship him, Hurrem did that. From this scene forward, no matter what crime Hurrem would commit, i knew she would be protected by Suleiman, because she was a reflection of him. That’s why people started hating her, messing with Hurrem was like messing with Suleiman himself, it was impossible. She won his heart, she lived inside him, but by doing that, Suleiman never knew that later she would be able to dictate and control his actions. Hurrem ruled everything!
In real life Suleyman often sought advice from Hurrem. She was his advisor.
And not only this. Suleiman strongly believed that people in last moments speak only true. And she warned him about cruelty of Ibrahim and Mahidevran.
2 closest persons to oldest prince.
Firs time his face changes - he saw it is not only jealousy between them, but fear for her kids. After this he start to look more carefuly to Ibrahim and also to his relation with prince Mostafa which he liked before.This is moment that changes everything. And actually Hurem didn't have what to loose. If she refused poison she would lost his trust. This willl lead to her end. She recognize that, Ibrahim didn't. He believed Sultan would never hurt him , becouse he was too much important. But sharp mind of queen understood this in 1 second , she did smart choice to take back trust which means to keep his love even if this means to die immidiatelly - but loved. Not like Ibrahim died- without even graveyard after all they went through. He didn't recognize what is going on in Sultans mind all year before he finally killed him.
Ya to the point exactly
Great explanation
That’s the difference between her and Mahidevran. She’s beauty and brains as opposed to Mahidevran who is relies only on her beauty and lies to get what she wants. She’s snobby and lets others think for her.
Mustafa is much smarter than his mother, playing the long game. He set out to win the hearts of Hurrem's sons and he did. And he grew to truly care for his brothers. In the end, Hurrem wished he had been her son as well so they wouldn't have been at odds with each other. (And before anyone complains, I'm commenting on the show, not history.)
Ibrahim told Mustafa to win his brother heart. He told him to gain their trust and make them love him so that when the time came they would not fight him. Ibrahim did the exact same to the Sultan until he became big headed.
he never ever cared for his siblings, only power that he is the one after Suleiman, and only Allah can diced, he never cared!
@@MiryanaVasich I am commenting on the show, not history.
R u sure he truly cared?? (In the show) when he got a slight doubt that seleyman want mehmat as next sultan.. when suleyman gave his ring to mehmat not mistafa.. he got all mad.. no regard to his brother or father.. 😅😅 his true intention were all out.. the moment he realised selim wont bow to him and suleyman can make selim king.. then mustafa with bayezid decided to remove selim.. 😅😅
Hurrem understood the assignment When you love someone some truths are best kept secret Suleiman was expecting to confess that she committed the crime, just like others who do in order to be given a second chance, or to skip dates but she didn’t, which made him believe that she was innocent. She is indeed a smart woman.
when i watch each episode im like why did hurrem do that . and there deep strategy behind everything she did . she understood that the ALLMIGHTY ALLAH SUBHANAHU WA TA'ALA got her to this castle seeing her true potential and wrote her destiny and "at all cost never was she going to waste an opportunity to become closer to what God Almighty had destined her to be . that is why she really developed the ability to brainstorm in stress situations .
I just realized that the ones accusing Hurrem of these awful crimes don't present any EVIDENCE or PROOF that it was her who actually orchestrated these crimes to be committed having proof and evidence helps when someone accuses someone else of a CRIME they just expect the Sultan the king to take their word as their proof and believe them
She is thinking like a mom. She couldnt tell and risk her children because of what she did
Notice how when Suleiman allows her to make a wish, Hurrem simply asks for a hug. She had the chance to ask for something grand, but she again reassures him of her love and loyalty by asking for nothing but his affection. This ensures Suleiman will never be able to trust anyone as he trusts Hurrem. Every time he considers cutting her lose, this moment will rescue Hurrem every time.
Why would she ask for anything? She has literally everything she could ask for in the palace
Hurrem loved that man!
I think this is the point of the show where Suleiman develops his full trust in Hurrem. This act of love and utter devotion is the moment where he realizes Hurrem is his one and only. All the time before this scene it was a he said she said and Suleiman felt it necessary to come to Hurrem's defense purely out of love. I'm sure he was wondering uo until that point whether Hurrem could be trusted or if she was just like the others, cunning and manipulative. The test proved to him that was not the case. Her drinking the poison is, in my mind, the exact moment where Suleiman learns to trust Hurrem once and for all. And that trust doesn't ever go away from beyond this point until he dies
But that doesn't take away the fact that she tried to kill his son I know it was based on survival and she did not imagine no one else in the throne while Suleiman was alive unlike mahidrevan that every time Suleiman got sick she was preparing the seat for her son. if Suleiman knew that hurrem was actually trying to kill his son he wouldn't of spared her so easily she just never folded to tell the truth and always got out of the situation.
she still tried to poison Mustafa.. cunning and manipulative.
In a later episode she tells Suliman that she is his shadow. That is exactly what she is.
@@kam3437Did Mahidevran not poison Hurrem (And very nearly Suleiman) when Hurrem was pregnant with Mehmet?
This was incredibly calculating on Suleiman’s part. He’s not unaware of all the plotting and scheming that goes on behind his back. But with this, he knew once and for all who loved him and who was manipulating him. Hurrem was incredibly devious in a lot of ways. But you can’t say she didn’t love him. And she proved it.
She loved him or his status?
@@museoflove8255 she loved him but his status was the key to her survival.
To be fair, she wasn’t devious, but when swimming with serpents, one must do what they can in order to survive.
Even hatice and valide and ibrahim knew this.. thats why they were afraid.. that hurrem with her genuine and true love can make all them lose.. by ruling suleymans heart
If I were Suleiman, I'd have been more than a little interested in the fact that aside from asking him to protect their children from Mahidevran, who most certainly would have had them killed once Suleiman died, she wanted him to protect their children from Ibrahim. I mean, these are, so far as she believes, her dying words. She obviously chose them to be meaningful. Suleiman expected to hear that she considered Mahidevran a threat, I'm sure, but Ibrahim? That would have sent alarm bells going off in my head if it were me.
Yup, it also bothered me that he did not react to this at all. Like come on, she thinks that this is the end and her last words are sure to be honest. Should not he be at least a lil bit concerned?
I had the same thought when watching it for the first time. Like, sure, okay, this couldn't be used to bring about Ibrahim's end yet as it'd be significantly ahead of schedule, but it's odd that it just never comes up again at all. Even when Suleiman is remembering all of the reasons he has to be suspicious of Ibrahim, it's never brought up. Which, given how, by now Suleiman's had dreams/nightmares of Mustafa becoming sultan with Ibrahim almost controlling him, it seems like a wasted opportunity not to pursue the affect this'd have.
Ibrahim got away with so much honestly.
Suleiman is deep. He heard Hurrem but spent the night thinking things through. The seed of doubt is there and eventually leads to Ibrahim's death.
I mean. He did execute Ibrahim. All these moments must’ve added up.
That was the turning point imo where nothing they could say about Hurrem mattered anymore. She became untouchable.
In true love, there is absolute loyalty and faithfulness. I remember he said to someone at a later time that he knew Hurrem had faults, but he also knew she was completely loyal to him.
@@joansuttonthat's what he said to Fatma sultan while they're arguing
The hurt in Hurrem's face when Suleyman made her drink the vial
Mustafa to Suleyman: why would a dying woman lie?
Suleyman to himself: I'm going to test that theory.
Hurrem speaks her "dying" words.
Suleyman to himself: why would a dying woman lie?
Case closed.
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Okay I'm not the sharpest tool, so someone please explain cause I want to understand
The way Mustafa looks at his young brothers here makes me so suspicious. I'm not sure I really believe he would have spared them.
he wouldn/t
He wouldn’t
That glance says it all, he totally planned on manipulation of some aort and also using them against Hurrem at the very least.
Even if he didn't kill them, all of his supporters would especially Mahi
Looks like Suleiman was really smart doing that poison test. He was trying to see if Hurrem actually tried to kill Mustafa to help her own kids become Sultan. By asking Hurrem to drink the 'poison', he was not only testing her loyalty to him but also proving that she values nothing, not even her own children, over him. So, when she drank it, she cleared herself of the poisoning plot against Mustafa. Even though she actually planned to poison the prince, it's her love and loyalty for Suleiman that saved her.
And its true she prefers nothing over suleyman.
@@sadafrafiq5006the murderer of her family
To be honest, love or no, I would still be miffed that he made me think I was dying. You better do better than a love poem 😂
True i would never die for a man.. Only for my mother who give birth to me
@@comradeleppi2000damn, you said exactly my words as well
Omg! To think after this kind of loyalty the writers had him willingly and purposely hurt Hurrem with Firuze for years😮
Yeah, the firuze and Isabella chapters were definitely non-sense
The Firuze story arc might be a bit unlikely but it is really enjoyable & entertaining to watch if you give it a chance. But I am not a fan of the Isabella story arc @@thehunchbackgirl
But this is an actual take on history itself. The Ottoman Empire did exist at one point in time. Everyone in the Magnificent Century show did exist at one point in time. So what took place between the Saltan and Hurrem and Firuze and Princess Isabella actually happened. You can research the Ottoman Empire and Hurrem and everyone on this show for yourself. This show is history in action as it happened. Much like Laura Ingalls Wilder and Little House On The Prairie series (both the books and tv show).
@@honeybee2587What nonsense. This is a fictional story based on history, not a historical retelling. There was neither Isabella nor Firuze
Firuze died between 1608 & 1613
Princess Isabella otherwise known as Isabella Jagiellon was queen consort of Hungary
Suleiman saw Hungary as a vessel state of the Ottoman Empire she was born January 18 1519 & died September 15 1559
Hurrem Saltana died April 15 1558 she was brought to the Ottoman Empire as a slave. Married Saltan Sulieman. Had all their children.
Saltan Sulieman
Ruled the Ottoman Empire from 1520 to 1566
Born November 1494 Died September 1566
Mahidevran Saltana
Was favorite concubine of Sulieman until Herrum came.
Son Mustafa. Died February 1581
Mustafa
Oldest son of Sulieman. Mother Mahidevran Born 1515 Died October 6 1553
Hatice
Sister to Sulieman
Died December 31 1543
Ibriham
Grand Vizier of the Ottoman Empire Died March 15 1536
As you can see these people did in fact exist at one point in time. You can find their pictures and biographies on google. You can also look up videos on the history of the Ottoman Empire on TH-cam. Please educate yourself on history and what it actually is before preaching. I am a huge history buff and I study history in my spare time. And I take the time too look up history like the Ottoman Empire.
8:30 She said this and when she was actually dying she was looking at his Suleiman face and took her last breathe in his arms...and she even ended mahi and Ibrahim far before. TRUE QUEEN👑
Talk about a test...talk about a love......the fake poison thing was a most impressive test for sure. Bet Mahidevren would not have drank it
Bet you're right!
No he was being toxic.
@@hurremsultanas they're all toxic tho...
@@sunnybananny5737 True. But that doesn't make it romantic.
@@hurremsultanas literally not one person in this thread said it was romantic. Your comment is unnecessary and putting words in people's mouth.
Mahidevran: *does something devious meant to harm Hurrem or her children*
Heinous act: *blows up in Mahidevran's face*
Mahidevran: HURREM DID IT!
Suleiman: you're such a f'ing liar, Mahidevran. Get out.
Mahidevran: HURREM HAS RUINED MY LIIIIFFFEEEEE
Hurrem did, 😂😂😂😂 didn't she?
Lmao
She is a true Sultana❤
In the first episode, when mahideveran first shows up with mustafa and the sultan is too busy, I could sympathize with mahidevern. That went south right away after she showed her mean streak and would just start crying at the drop of a hat. She's also a bit of a coward.
Mustafa was such an asset to their empire (smart handsome brave charismatic well loved and a good soldier) his mother could’ve kept him alive longer if she didn’t insist on him being king - feel sorry for Mustafa 😢
If Hurrem was able to speak with Mustafa and get close to him they would have loved and respected each other but mahidevron poisoned any chance of that. Hurrem never got the chance to know the goodness and kindness of Mustafa.
Suleiman is a fraud. He says all these loving words,tells Hurrem that she is the ruler of his heart, then he betrays her with Firuze.
I hate Suleyman and Firuze
Süleyman: Hürrem, I love y- Who's that 👀
Or
Yes, I 💯 absolutely banish her.( I believe you person I KNOW doesn't like Hürrem )
⬇️
Oh no , I'm dying/she's dying,I can't live without Hürrem. Recites poetry and confesses his love
⬇️
Repeats the cycle ⤴️
- Oops I did it again😅, The saga by series Süleyman
Firuze and Isabella just a character that the author made for the series. In real history, there's no other woman after hurrem in Suleyman life. 😊
@@LilaLahyali People are discussing the *show* under the fragment of the *show*, not under a historical lecture. We know it's not real.
I wish Mustafa were also Hurrem 's son 😢❤
Mustafa died because of too much greed and ambition in power of his mother Mahidevran Hatun but they are always blaming Hurrem sultan for all the terrible things happened to them....😅
Also Mustafa is not real man even ibrahim..how can they fight to Hurrem why they are not fighting to Sulieman..why Woman they fight?🤣🤣
My Mahidevran ✨✨
Same point
I wouldn't blame Mahidevran for Mustafa's death. But Hürrem does get overly villified.
@@rohanabraham557 You can keep her..... but when you do...double check your desserts🤣
I just broke watching this scene. Absolutely bawling! So emotional and devastating to her fear but in the end, she proved herself to the Sultan
I realy love hurrem..i watched from episode 1 till the end...then now i rewatched it again...love it
That's very, very sad.
Hope it ended well please
hurrem died
People talk about how loyal was Hürrem to Suleyman, blame Mahidevran about terrible things she had, but when Hürrem tried to poison Mustapha through Efsun, while Cihangir was sick, everything is alright! Hürrem made all of these to survive, but Mahidevran not! Hürrem didn't want power for her and her kids, she loved Suleyman only!
@@daydreamer_55 Mahidevran had her faults too, but this didn't make Hürrem less guilty! Hürrem lied many times to Suleyman when she wasn't innocent and used her kids, especially Mihrimah, to get what she wanted!
You’re so biased towards hurrem. Mahidevran always wanted to kill hurrems children and she did kill Mehmet first. 😊
@@Jayy_sad I'm talking about the other side too! Mahidevran yes, she wasn't innocent! Hürrem wasn't innocent too! But people focus in Mahidevran's actions, while Hürrem did and thought the same things! She did evil things too! It doesn't matter the priority! Even if Mahidevran didn't plan to kill Mehmet or the other Hürrem's sons, Hürrem surely would have in her mind Mustafa's killing!!
Mahidevran/ mustafa : Hürrem poisoned mustafa .
Suleiman : my darling from both worlds , make your wish
😂😂😂😂😂
Epic coment 😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂
😂😂😂
No, please😆😂😂😂😂💔😂😭
After shr passes out, and he lays her on the bed and just raises his eyebrows...omg I was rolling 😆😆
Jakby chciał powiedzieć " ach te kobiety. O co te emocje "
Ultimate loyalty of hurrem sultana to suleiman!
The sultan's poetry is the best
I cried when she drunk the liquid from that vial though i knew for a fact that it wasn't poison at all 😭😭😭
She drank it with the quickness to
Suleiman was a coward that he never tested his sisters,concubines& ibrahim' s loyalty the way he did with hurrem repeatedly
Whatever happened when he,ibrahim n valide knew that mahi tried to poison suleiman& hurrem when she was pregnant with 1st child??
Wat was that called?? Wasnt that a murder..a cruelty??
Did suleiman& ibrahim forget that??
Mahidevran forgot how she poison Hurrem during her pregnancy?
Hurrem slept with Suleiman while Mahi was pregnant
@@SarafNawar-bk2ssSuleiman’s fault 🙌🏼
@@accursedrepugnant you’re right
Wow, Hurrem had a lot to process and analyse very quickly once she woke up, as well as deciding on her reaction once she was able to control herself.
I was surprised when it turned out Sulaiman was just testing Hurrem’s conviction by leaving it up to her willingness to drink the fake poison😂 that’s all it took to reinforce his trust in her lol
“You’re a disaster to my soul…”
What fantastic words
I cried for this scene
Suleiman told his sister Fatma, Hurrem only wanted him on the throne and no one else.
I hate to say it but I was glad when Mustafa died he was arrogant like his mom
because mahi taught him to be like that.
Единственная актриса для Хюррем❤👍🙏
I personally am salty about the fact that the only tested hürrem like this.
He already knew that mahi wouldn’t drink it lol
Hurrem shows she is brave and loves him. And Suleiman understood it well once more. Because he can love a woman that is as brave as he is.
There is a scene coming up that I love, where Suleiman is questioned about Hurrem's loyalty. Sulieman gets angry and defends Hurrem. He tells them that Hurrem drank poison for him, or he says something like that. Love that scene.
Ok but Young Bayezid is so adorable 🤩🥰
Every one is guilty . everyone is against hurem but they blame her .
آللّٰھُمَّ صَلِ عَلٰی مُحَمَّدٍ وَّعَلٰی آلِ مُحَمّد 🤲❤️
Here there is a toss between words of love,loyalty and words of the accusers. In the end it all lies within your heart… what do you want
A defining moment that proved Hürrem was loyal to him-to the death
Hurrem sultan was a mastermind, to a level above Keyser Söze
الدبلجة بالعربية باللهجة السورية فيها ابداع و اتقان اكتر من الصوت و التمثيل الأصلي
Hurem mempuyai cinta yg tulus kepada sulaiman
''Selim come on now''
You are the next king
He should have trusted her without doing this. Very cruel.
It really was. The upside is that this made it near impossible to dought Hurrem going forward. It also placed dought in Mustafa.
Tbf mahidevran and mustafa gave him a solid argument: near the death's door, efsun would not lie. That's why suleyman did it. He wanted to know what Hurrem would say when she's at the death's door
This was more to try and put his harem in order again. He trusted Hurrem but knew there'd be no peace for Mustafa and mahidevran if he did nothing. This test was enough to silence them, they had no proof beyond the dying words of his concubine that no other heard
Какой стресс для женщины! Матери его детей! Жестоко!
I agree, that was horribly abusive. And then she wakes up and he's all smile and she's completely panicked ? Talk about a trauma bound
Foreshadowing! She did die in his arms and looking at his face in the end.
This moment. So heart. Touching. Seen. Howhureen. Matun. Her. Husband say. Drink. The poison so much love. Her. Husband
What episode is this?
Sulieman knew he couldn’t get a better loyalty than this in Hurrem
This movie I watch again and again tell
Grandson..
Which episode is this i am trying to find episode for a
Day but i failed please let me know
I just think that was really cruel of him to do that to her. The look of betrayal and confusion in her eyes when she realizes that he tricked her and made her believe he would kill her. That was cruel.
Сулейман сволочь! Так жалко Хюррем! Потом еще лаского говорит, глаза закатывает после такого поступка! Плюнуть хочется, слюны жалко! А Хюррем еще обнимается...надо было здесь его проучить так же жестко! Как он!
In their culture there only the heir of the Sultan, and he is the one to name his successor. It futile to be fighting over the
Definitely best of all
The trauma hurrem went through
This was a very, very cruel thing to do to her.
Allas!!! Suleiman was grabbed by his heart in that delicate matter about Mustafa's life... No doubt nobody like Mustafa was to be so obedient to Suleiman...
If the matter is about worshipping him with no objection in Suleiman's godship then Mustafa was a single angel in there with no doubt... Hurrem engulfed that liquid when she were bottlenecked and had no choice left. She the stubborn and strong headed woman... Was she comparable to Shahzady Mustafa?!!! Never!!! Its just sleak to compare Hurram with Suleiman's own blood but he unfortunate king was just the slave of his heart, A Russian concubine... And that lead to a ultimate disaster of his magnificence...
Мустафа самый умный и самый справидливый сын Сулеймана. Жалко его.
8:30 what is the music name
What's the music at 10:27 ??
Z-Lol Sajjad Haki
Honestly making hurrem drink poison was a useless move because when she poisoned mustafa she wasn't hurting sulieman anyway . It doesn't benefit her to hurt the sultan as he is the source of her power , love and fairytales aside.
Mustafa would never hurt his brothers or sister.
Yes, he would! Watch next series and you’ll understand Mustafa’s greed and ambitions. He is actually training by Ibrahim, to be cold thinker and cold killer
Which episode is this
סידרה מעולה❤
I don't understand why people like Hurrem. She's such a snake, she tried to poison the innocent Sehzade but got away with it. Such mischiefs were common for her to do, and EVERYTIME she got away with it. The only gud thing about her is her loyalty to the Sultan. It's true, and the ONLY POSITIVE SIDE OF HERS. People say she was strong, indeed she was. She was a strong snake. By harming others for nothing, she became strong 👏👏
There are no innocents in this game for the throne. Mustafa isn't an innocent victim as fans like to preach. Not Hürrem, not mahidevran , Ibrahim, mirimah, hafsa, Hatice, Suleiman etc. They all did/do something that advanced their interest/survival.
hurrem was treated like a rat when she first came into the palace tho?? everyone was a snake at some point too. EVERYONE harmed each other. hurrem HAD to be protect her children. her charities are still being one till this day btw.
@@daydreamer_55stop comparing her to Mahi
How she is so beautiful 😢😢😢
You can already see the bad side of Mustafa.
Why Sulieman did'nt try mahidevram to drink poison?why only Hurrem?🤣
İt was not poison ...wish it was poison...Russian slave deserved it as she plotted to kill Mustafa through Efsun🤮🤮
I think because he truly loved her, but was holding back a little bit so once she proved how much she loved him, he could finally let his heart embrace her fully, and trust her fully. I don’t think he loved Mahidevran enough to even go through this. He didn’t care about her because he already knew that she was disloyal, and I tried to kill him.
@@rohanabraham557 There are ways of holding someone accountable that aren't spousal abuse though.
@@hurremsultanas Hürrem deserved poison that day...
@@rohanabraham557 There are other ways of holding people accountable than that though. Exile for example would be far more appropriate.
16:09 & people took side of Mustafa he is a weak men, with high lvl of low self esteem, full of greed & full of dishonesty with dsytany . Where as hureem children weren't like her that, that's how Mustafa deserve to die & now after hearing this I believe that he might b betrayal with his dad to became a king he is so desperate to be the one & this greed is clearly shown on that series
Mustafa didn't deserve to die. The tragedy was that all the şehzades were trapped by thr fratricide law.
Wtf??
@@hurremsultanas the only thing that would have saved Mustafa by the time he died would have been him turning over his entire household, including his mother and his wife for treason. I mean EVERYONE. by that point, everyone in that household EXCEPT Mustafa was engaged in treasonous conspiracy against the ruling Sultan, and no ruler who expected to remain alive would let that stand. and even THAT might not have worked given how far the conspiracy had spread. he might not have personally issued the orders, but by the point he died, things had progressed to where that didn't MATTER.
mahedievran taught her son that the sultan was his father first, and ruler second. which is what ultimately got him killed.
and the fratricide law means that any hostility between the princes has to WAIT until the death of their father and the succession struggle takes place. any moves BEFORE that point is flat out treason and will be treated as such. which is what got Bayezed killed.
@@helenafarkas4534 Thank you!!! Somebody with some sense gets it. Mustafa was acting like a sultan while his father THE SULTAN was still alive. In the Ottoman Empire a prince can't act or do the things Mustafa was doing.
@@helenafarkas4534that's also my perspective about Mustafa and that is why he deserves this
It's a prank bro😂😂😂
Didn't Mahidevran poison Hurrem and the baby in her belly? Steups.
Brave, very brave of Hurrem!
When Hurrem told him to kill her, she had already given him children. This was the episode where the Russian concubines were gifted to the Sultan.
This time, WHY would she admit while dying this thing she did. It would endanger her children 😅
She's "dying" she just wants to spend that time reminding him she loved him. He didn't say, "Kill yourself OR tell me the truth."
He was holding her to her word of doing anything for him. She was going to die for him anyway. 😅
Her mind works differently from others. Once she was done with the who was lying and did you do it, conversation, she moved onto just him and her.
She calculated the risk to her family and the man she loved, from whom she got her power, and she chose to do the only thing she knew to do. Lean into his power. It saved her.
Even better, she breaks as soon as he tells her the choices are die today or live without me. She breaks him by telling him that just his choices prove she is nothing to him, that kills her anyway.
Now the ball is his court so to speak. Now he will reward her and compensate for his "mistake" and her enemies will truly suffer that loss of trust.
She may not have intended it but she is his "shadow"
Even mahdevran try to poison hurrem
Actually mahidevran has too low patience she is not as smart as hurrem is and looses everytime
What episode is this plsss someone tell me
Very unhealthy relationship 🤦
قسمت چنده؟
Yet,Mahadevil killed Hurremms son Mehmet and got away with it.Really ....
In real history she doesnt kill anyone. But they are little evidence for execution of mustafa related to hurrem
And it was mustafa who gave her that idea
And she lost Mustafa. It was her punishment.
So they let Mahidevran get away with poisoning pregnant Hürrem but when she hears a rumour she’s expects Hürrem to be introuble !
What episode is this pls?
Mahidevran attack hurrem, suleiman believes and blame her. Hurrem attack hatice, try killing mustafa many times and suleiman doesn't believe that. 😏
@@Borntobekpoper
Mahidevran beat Hurrem for something she had no fault for. Hurrem beat Hatice because she was drugged by the substances Hatice provided, so funny enough Hatice’s plan backfired (literally) in her face. Hurrem was smart enough to never do something like that consciously, so the person you should blame for the beating is Hatice herself.
From what episode was this?
you usually can get the whole episode in the descriptions
@@reneejones5675that is not a helpful comment. They give you a brief description of the episode and a link to ALL the episodes. They specifically wanted an episode number.
Hurrem sultan speaks the truth!
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@@izas5768 ?
In the end, she did die looking at his face and in his arms 😢
Their "love" is so sick 😂😂
Eşın başka birisiyle birlikde olması ihanet etmesı Ne kader acı bir şey ya 😢😢😢insan paramparcha olur o anki hal her zaman aklına geldığı anılar onların baraber oldukları çoçukları olunca da beter insan yanar o acıdan😫😢mahidavrana cnm aciyor 😢hurremede kiyamam😢 😫😫😫 🥺🥺💔🖤🥀😔
I feel the same way about an ex