The Best Prepper Back Pack
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- ***This is from my Sensible Prepper Channel but has been so well received that I decided to add it to the Sootch00 Project.
Sensible Survival Presents: "The Best Prepper Backpack" which is the Military Surplus Alice Pack. It's high value for the money spent, it's extremely rugged and Durable, it's highly versatile and the add on Cargo Shelf takes this pack to a whole new level.
The Alice pack has been used by the U.S. Military to over 20 years until the '90's and has proven itself in tough situations. Found at yard sales, surplus stores, gun shows and Ebay, they run anywhere from $25 - $50 and a great buy for the quality received.
Thanks for watching! Sootch00
Mine has been from Vietnam to Falluja and still going!
the best success that i've had was by using the Micaden survive system (just google it) definately the most helpful survival that I have ever followed.
Great video
I worked at Tactical Tailor in Tacoma. We repair Alice packs from all over the world. Air born jumps with an Alice on a teather. God you ought to see what they do to them. I picked up a medium from the Goodwill store in Seattle for $1.99 w/o frame. I wash the pack in the bath tub with Dawn dish soap. Let it sit for a couple of hours in warm water and rince twice with cold. Let dry overnight. (No dryer). Do the same with the straps off the pack. If you clean the straps they will get more springy.
So much gear gets tossed because nobody cleans it. Lastly all the Alice compatable gear is now at giveaway prices with many years of servicable life left . What could be more agreeable with a budget.
I remember those days! The Alice pack that I took on Robin Sage must have weighed one hundred pounds! Two weeks in the woods of beautiful North Carolina playing Contra rebel for SFQC candidates. This video really takes me back. I'm glad that our old gear is still appreciated in this era of high dollar equipment.
Thanks for sharing! I have an ALICE pack in my shed. Maybe it's time...
My care of equipment shall set the example for others to follow. Ever gear that around TT? I did the same detail on a medium ruck yesterday
Ive had a medium alice pack for many years, since I was 12. Used it all the way through boy scouts, school, lots of hiking/fishing/etc. I have BEAT THE SHIT out of that pack and Its still kicking.
I will say, the A.L.I.C.E. pack is a great budget pack. I actually have two of them, ones a medium that I used when I was in ROTC, the other is a Large. The large alice is big enough to carry a couple of toddlers in it! I dont have any plans of getting rid of either pack because of their versatility! Great vid Sootch00!
A boys camp was upgrading and they threw away 30 Alice packs. I saw them out there and i asked if i could take one. The owner of the camp said take them all. So I took them all and I have been issuing them to every friend that i have. The frame is only $30.00 make's a great bug out bag.
Oh man, that's awesome.
Same here
Lucky dog!!
I've had my Alice back pack for years and would not trade it for anything. They are great.
i Double up on these i have one on my back.... and one.... in front of me can carry a lot more .
Lol I LOOOVE how you model your gear Sootch. It makes me laugh every time. but It really is a great addition to your videos, beyond the humor aspect.
These packs are awesome. And they are still in use by the US military. It he large held enough stuff to hold me over for 7 days plus mission essential gear.
great review no bul and honest you get what you see no ads
Just recently got a ALICE pack of eBay for $32 shipping included to free a nice internal frame pack. Once loaded up as my bug out bag I realized I should of spent that $30 ages ago. I didn't know about the cargo plate, thanks! For that kind of money it's perfect to be packed up and put away for a time when things get rough...
Alice Packs are great for the versatility and weight for sure. not to mention the affordability factor. Nice review Sootch!
I agree ! Great valued pack. I still use Alice clips on my more modern gear. The frames are great for hauling meat out of the woods! Great vid sootch
These ALICE packs are great. Great find at any gun show or Army surplus store.
Great video Sootch! Just one feature you neglected to point out-- The quick release pull tabs on the shoulder harness. It's a great feature if/when you ever need to dump off your pack in a hurry. I love the A.L.I.C.E. pack. I used my dad's old issue ruck sack back when I was in Boy Scouts. You could stuff 2 MREs in each of the smaller ouside pockets and you were good to go. ;)
I just bought a new medium ALICE pack so I'm glad that you like them and did this video, it'll let me know more about what'll show up at my door. LOL I'm planning to use it on short day hikes and a bit of EDC.
You can never go wrong with the A.L.I.C.E.!
In past times when I didn't have a car I used to use my ALICE to haul groceries home from the store.
I agree. The main reason why it’s the ultimate pepper pack is because it is basic. Not made to be comfortable, not made to be convenient, and last but not least not made to be posh for anyone who wants survival to be a walk in the park. Yes it’s not the most advanced equipment. However it is the most budget survival equipment. It’s totally worth the buy IF you are not a high maintenance survivalists which sorta is a contradictory honestly. I love cheap well made multi functional gear that make survival hard BUT possible. Thank you sensible prepper for the wonderful review
Excellent review and tips! Thank you Sir! 👍👍😃👌
I love my Alice. Thanks.
We still used Alice packs at 2nd Recon Bn.
Hi Sootch! Thanks for all the great videos and information. I really enjoy your channel. I did a Google search: ALICE PACK HELLCAT and found some threads that discuss adding MOLLE II shoulder straps and kidney pad along with the modular sleep system carrier to an ALICE pack. I'm in the process of doing that to my ALICE pack and I think it's a great idea. Just wanted to let others know about it. Keep the good videos coming! YOU ROCK, SOOTCH!
I'm going to have to pick up a few those Alice packs . Thanks for a well informative video.
Hey I got one of those! Didn't know it was so good. I lack a frame, guess I'm buying one of those now.
pack...of course we used smaller assault packs most of the time, but sometimes rucks became required (mostly to carry LUDICROUS amounts of batteries and ridiculous electronics (BAT/HIIDE anybody?)).....anyways, yes the ALICE pack is awesome!
love these I use a Spec Ops brand Alice pack $80
I bought mine at a flea market for 10 bucks no frame though but still a very good investment.
i like my monsoon gearslinger more. but i do agree when you say this is a good bag.
Love this bag
Sootch I'm subscriber and I find your information videos very informative. Thank you sir. I like the reviews and gear you talk about. Keep up the good work.
ALICE was completely replaced by MOLLE in 2001, but phase in started in 1997.
When I was in the Infantry I kept saying to myself there has to be a better pack than the ALICE Pack!
interesting to hear your thoughts about it, keep up the work :)
Very nice video! I still have my old LC-1 Medium with frame, and you are correct that all the accessories are readily available and using MOLLE attachments with the ALICE is easy. I'll have to get a shelf; you really showed the usefulness of it well.
Oh, thanks for reminding me, I've been needing to get around to replacing my shoulder straps. (lazy) I minus well get the shelf & straps too, lol
Nice job. Love watching your videos. Keep it
I currently use a Condor Tactical modular assault pack
Nice video thank you for sharing it.
had one throught my time in the U.S. Army 04-13. Best damn bag ever. I could fit 2 full ACU uniforms with boots no prob. Rain gear Plenty of room. Rugged, just awesome. I am going to buy one with frame just to have again.
Scootch, you should have mentioned the waterproof bag that goes with the ALICE pack.
Great vid boss! Semper Fi!
Hey Don, I picked up my first ALICE from sportsmansguide the other day, $24 and free shipping as I got some stuff that went over $50. I thought the frame would be an accessory i'd not be wanting, but it's not that heavy and seems like a good idea. i'm going to try and put the straps just on the pack only tomorrow and see how it hangs. I was thinking the very same thing about the air gap too. my pack is in nearly new condition, flap is a little faded, otherwise mint. looks circa late 90's
Bug out vehicle video next please!
I still use that ruck it's better then the ones they give us in the Canadian military
Add a wet weather bag and you are set.
hey scootch00 do you think you can make a video on everything that's in the Alice pack,I have one and wanted to know what I can and can't put in mine
Great video sootch. +1
I wonder if i could find a way to attach my favorite backpack to one of those frames with the shelf
Sootch00, I couldn't agree more. An awesome pack. Why do you (not you actually) think that the Marines. Army ..as U said still use these. Because they're just flat out excellent. Hint, know what style of frame you have .Hint is that the first LC-1 is Black and requires a rounded shelf. The Lc-2 frames are Anodized green or Later versions are painted aluminum green. colmans has em for 5.99 as of 3-30-2013 plus shipping so try to order somthing else to get the most out of shipping price grt video
very cool - I did Not it had a Shelf - to bad it didnt come with it rather then having to buy it seprate
Gotcha.
I love my ALICE pack. However, I modified it into the Hellcat variant to make it more comfortable. The Hellcat modification means the shoulder and hip straps get replaced with the MOLLE 2 straps and a sleep system carrier is installed on the bottom of the frame. I highly recommend those modifications as they make the pack more comfortable.
+Keith Fillinger A good link on how to set up the Hellcat mod for those interested:libertytreeblogs.blogspot.com/2011/04/building-hellcat-hybrid-ruck-from-us.html
Thank you. I think that must have come about after I got out (1989).
I have a med. Alice pack with the frame and I was thinking about swapping it for a normal low-key backpack but the storage and durability of an Alice pack is simply unrivaled.
Its decided!!! My local Surplus Store has those so i'm getting a couple. Do you prefer the medium to the large? If so why?
Chip McGuire I know it's to late but honestly I prefer large because it comes with the smaller pouches already on the only difference between large and medium is the small packs up too are included so I would shoot for large so you have the choice to have the pouches or not
Subscribed..
You rock, keep it up. Just looked at one alice pack today. May have to get one for the collection soon.
I know this is an old video..but you sir just got another committed subscriber! looking forward to more of these fantastic videos
great video; it brings out the old days when I was in the army. yes the alice pack was great out in the field for the ground pounder. I use one today for my bug out bag.
great video sootch00. I'm just now getting mine. Who knows, with the politics going the way they are, they may outlaw using army surplus items. lol
What about the slots behind the pockets for your skis?
I agree Sootch! I really like mine. Glad I never got rid of it. Great Vid.... Thank you.
We still jump them in the 82nd
i bought a brand new alice pack at a thrift store for 50 cents. there's all kinds of awesome deals out there.
Just picked up one from amazon sootch... awesome!!! great review buddy.
Another great video! Are you from Texas?
is there a way to carry the 5 gallon jug and both the sack on the frame?
where can you get the rubberized nylon bags that go in each section of the pack?
Good. But why wreck it with tha 'god bless america' crap at the end. FFS.
I have something similar but without the frame, how comfortable is the metal frame running across the shoulder? Not digging into your back?
Could you wear a alice web belt with suspenders with this rig?
Thanks
Definitely. Just make sure your canteens are out to the sides so they're out of the way, and wear the pistol belt low on your hips, not around the waist.
i like it but i am going to stick with my Teton thanks.
yes you can, in the show LOST, John Lock runs around with an mil alice pack w/o the frame
Too much cheap plastic and non-standard Velcro with MOLLE. I will stick with the ALICE system since that is what I used most of the time while on active duty in the 70s-90s. Just keep all the metal waterproofed.
Sootch00, Do you know where there is a military instructional video illustrating the proper way to load out the LARGE LC-2 like they showed on OneShepherdVideo..I just remember it saying this is BATTLE RATTLE RADIO .lol. they did the complete med version w/ issued gear for basic. there are only 3 vids from 1 year ago? any help would be appreciated .. Thanks Oh yea! everyone, when he says lube buckles don't forget buttons and vasoline works great, seriously..Support Our 2nd Amendment..Thank you
Can you put the bag and the ammo on at the same time?
you should give the bag away in a contest since your replacing it
Synthetic dryer lint won't catch a spark like cotton dryer lint.
Can someone please tell me what is the difference between a regular medium Alice pack and a medium RADIO Alice pack?Thanks.
Interested... very interested
can the pack go on with the shelf on still?
Awesome pack. Have had mine for years.
Nice vid!!! I have a question: I've got an ALICE medium pack 4 years ago but I've noticed that the buckles of the bottom are quite rusty. How can I remove rust from those buckles o what can I do to avoid rust?
I stil have one of these. Snipers and Recon Marines still use these packs or new packs that use the frame. I only replaced the shoulder straps on mine with straps that had longer padded portions
I have 4 of these plus the Desert Camo rain covers ... excellent Prepper Pack and really comfortable to wear. Superb quality - these were made to go through a WAR!
Value for the Allice Packs seems high indeed! A nice mill spec modulair mountain pack from Berghaus is atleast 180 euro last time I looked...
you may have an easier time if you put the .45 cal box on top. keeping the weight higher seems to give it less leverage to pull you backwards.
Sometimes simpler is better. I've used Kifaru, and Mystery Ranch (Overload, an $800 pack), along with the modern issued packs. Still come back to the ALICE. Something refreshing about its simplicity and versatility.
For years I've had a medium ALICE that I upgraded with side release buckles on the main straps and pockets, and added the pouch liners. I like the pack; but after buying a Condor compact assault pack as my Get Home Bag, I really liked being able to organize everything where it could be so easily seen and found ... now I no longer like the bottomless pit aspect of the ALICE and am thinking about replacing it with a Condor 3 Day Assault Pack.
Does anyone have both the 3-day assault pack and the Med ALICE? How does the size compare? Does the 3-day assault pack have any kind of an internal frame? Thanks!!
Hi Don, I have repeatedly watched this (and your other videos) over the years. GREAT VIDEO!
I am a big fan of the Alice pack. FYI one of the restoration tips for the water resistant map compartment / top lid on the A.L.I.C.E packs is to mask it off and spray it with Flex Seal.
Also another not well known gear location on the A.L.I.C.E. packs, is in-between the three outside compartments and the main compartment.. There are slots behind the three outer compartments (behind two of them on the large A.L.I.C.E. packs. That location is perfect to slide a hatchet or small axe etc... into.
Modded and "upgraded" my regular and large ALICE packs - fastex buckles, replaced alice clip webbing with molle/pals webbing etc. Sewing machine made it all easy. I even put a regular size pack with frame onto a LBV type vest. They are just so easily modded and for budget happy prices they are a great alternative to the more pricey options.
I'd take an ALICE pack over a civilian recreational pack costing 10 times as much any day of the week. I used to have an ALICE Hellcat modified to the hilt (medium ALICE, MOLLE II shoulder straps & waist belt, Fastex Buckle conversion, 200RD SAW & canteen pouches, hydration pouch, rain cover, dry bag, King Cobra Weave Paracord Handle...all USGI and all in matching Woodland Camo). Outstanding piece of kit. It can be customized to any number of configurations. Loved mine.
Love me some Alice. I have a Camo Alice pack on the way, good condition and got with shipping for about $20. Im going to do the wildcat mod on it using the kidney belt and straps from the MOLLE II rucksack and am also the MSR sleep carrier as well. The Alice pack has stood the test of time and they are still being used to this day. Companies make aftermarket Alice packs. Its the B52 of rucksacks.
After watching your video I found a 1976 issue Alice pack at Salvation army for $7.00 wow! The frame had four bad rivets,so I put new rivets in and mixed mineral spirits and silicone to waterproof and sewed new webbing on the bag with quick disconnects for the outside pockets and top flap. I replaced the hip belt with a Molle hip belt and sewed a top carry strap on the frame too. Thank you for your video and giving me the joy of modifying one. I think this will last me my lifetime!
Good video sootch00, but We think THEHOSSUSMCbeat you to this video Haha. Thanks for the video though good info.
No it should be snug somewhat,if it was used It may have been "broken in " meaning pressure on shelf ,slightly bending the clasping groove...Just take a rubber mallet and carefully ,laying the attaching side on a bench and , then carefully hit the bent part to tighten it up ..
Great packs...if you replace shoulder straps, hip belt, back pads....oh, and repair bag and frame...rather like the hatchet with which George Washington chopped down the cherry tree...one two new heads and thrre new handles...ALICE packs are a good stop-gap pack, but there are a LOT better packs on the market for function and total price point...
Awsom pack...ive replaced my shoulder straps and hip belt with Tactical Tayler replacements....not cheap to do...bur WELL worth it.
I just got my Alice pack the frame was ten dollars and the bag was 15 they didn’t know what it was I am very glad I did and bought it so fast
Thanks so much for this video. I have a couple of Alice Packs and a USGI sleep system that I wish to attache to bottom of Alice pack.
I just got some Alice cargo tie downs from eBay but I can't work out how they work? Any chance of a video or explanation or a link you know of, how to use the tie downs and put them together?