I always have liked these. Hopefully Sig will bring back the 232. The Mauser HSC is a fine piece as well. Some niced checked wood grips would really set it off. All good. From east Kentucky, bust some caps
I have had a Walther PP for 44 years. Carried it for eight when I was in the DA’s Office, and now as a back up carry gun. In all the time it has not had a single malfunction. Not one. In 44 years.
@TeamSootch-c5j It even said, in English, on the side, “Made in West Germany” - bought it from a retiring cop I knew at the DA’s Office. Decocker/safety is a brilliant function. Perfect carry gun for formal occasions…. “…Shaken, not stirred….”
@@blueduck9409 what blowsw me away is the last walther i bought, a ppk/s .22 for my son for practicing with DA/SA (he uses an HK P30LS with grayguns modos in competition shooting, does really well too) and also for fun, it broke 3x! his spouse's which was heavily used and when he opened it up to clean it, it was completely a few mm-thick layer of cordite gunk etc, and it fired 4000 rounds with all that buildup before he cleaned it! (his spouse was in Oregon we were in Utah at the time otherwise we would have made sure they cleaned it lol, newbie gun owners :P)
Ahhh the model 1001 , I had one for years. East German 1001's still retrained good accuracy but the finish wasn't as good, I did like the bakelite grips.
@carminemurray6624 nah plastic won't and the durability is absolutely garbage. Buddy's dog got it, the entire frame is literally gone. People still have ww1 era metal framed guns in top condition
Holy crap! That .32 acp with threaded barrel is now on my wish list, even though I recently bought a PPK/S in .380. It’s my James Bond gun. Still one of the sexiest guns ever made.
Makes no sense. That gun is so big and heavy because that was the technology back then. They could easily make the same gun in 9x19 now. The loss of effectiveness by stepping down to 380 is pointless without the benefit of small and light guns like the lcp max or the bodyguard 2.
@@deejayimm "They could easily make the same gun in 9x19 now" No they cannot. It's a Straight Blowback Design with a fixed barrel, it's not anywhere near the same thing like the Browning or such designs we have on most firearms today. This was system that really only could work mechanically on cartridges below the power and pressures that 9x19 has, and yes it has been tried by all the major manufacturers over the last century, the design just cannot handle 9x19, the only company that comes anywhere near the "success" is Hi Point because they have to increase the size and weight of their monstrosities. People seriously need to put away this fantasy.
Im so excited, someone stole my grandfather's Walther collection years ago,his Walther pp was supposed to go to me but again someone stole his collection the day before he passed,in my heart I believe that heartbreak had a part in his passing 😢
@@chuckcribbs3398 exactly it happened years ago but I think about it all the time,it truly breaks my heart.and I only have a couple things from my grandfather,I remember when I was little growing up and seeing his Walthers that he brought back from the war and I was promised the Walther pp and the Luger and they both were stolen 😢
I know a lot of tacticool, wannabe John Wick TH-camrs talk trash on these and the PPK, but I fully disagree. Yes, there are some limitations of the design compared to modern, striker-fire ultra compacts, BUT these guns are time-tested, durable, safe and smooth to shoot - especially if you train and are comfortable with a DA/SA setup.
Hi Powers, old 1911s, and Walther PP/PPK all make me bleed. Hammer bite from the 1911, slide cuts from the Walther, and both from the Browning. Big beavertails are a blessing.
Thanks for another great and informative video. It is good to see the PP back and in both 32 and 380 ACP. I'd like to mention, especially for those younger guys who still like to compensate for their small ego with ever bigger yet useless pickups and major caliber pistols never actually carried, that the 380 ACP has a LOOONG history of being an effective personal defense round in both full sized handguns and easily concealable handguns like the excellent Walther pistols. In the early 20th century, Colt developed the 380 ACP for use as a easy to handle but effective personal defence weapon not unlike the modern Smith & Wesson EZ Shield also in 380 ACP. Evidently, they too know the value and versatility of that excellent cartridge. Colt chambered it in their popular 1903 Pocket Hammerless which was extremely popular among plainclothes police officers, military aircrew and military general officers for decades. I can recall the great handgun writer, Skeeter Skelton, writing of the Pocket Hammerless in 380 ACP as being ideal for close combat and extraordinarily easy to carry concealed for undercover Special Agents because of its slim and smooth design and finish. One simply slid it the waistband just behind the hip bone. It was so useful, popular and successful that the Germans, French and Italians and their many subsidiaries produced models both full sized and compact, single action and double action, in the 380 ACP. Colt produced small "Mustang" models which were similar in appearance to the venerable and heroic 1911 and, literally, millions of those were made in 32 and 380 ACP all over the world by a wide variety of manufacturers. As a young police officer and being deeply underpaid, I sought a low cost 380 ACP similar to the expensive Walther and opted, regrettably, for the Astra Constable II and later for the Bersa Thunderer which was also an unsafe disappointment but my goal was to have concealable pistol like the prototype Walther in the effective 380 ACP. Today, now that I am retired from police work, I still carry a 380 in the very reliable, easy to shoot and utterly concealable combat pistol, the Taurus PT738. I repeat to these younger guys that a 22 in your pocket is much more effective than a 44 Magnum left in your nightstand or your glovebox. It will do you no good there! If you are going to carry then CARRY it. Need to facilitate that? Get a 380 ACP like this excellent Walther or a dozen other super lightweight, safe, reliable and low cost pistols from Taurus, Ruger, Smith and many more.
My PPK/S 380 stainless is the Interarms Walther. Nice compact pistol but I just bought it for collection purposes and is still unfired. My bedroom gun is a vintage S&W Model 36 with the 3” barrel in 38 Special revolver.
@@robertonavarro7713 My regular carry gun is my S&W Model 36 "Chief's Special", which I bought new in 2016. It works well with a pocket holster. I also have a Walter PPK, in SST, which I bought in 2008 (.380 ACP). My PPK was manufactured under license by S&W. I have fired it many times. I gave it some nice Hogue rosewood grips, which I like better than the stock grips.
@@Thorr-kl6jl Glad to know that you have both the Model 36 and the Walther PPK. I think your new Walther has a longer beaver tail than my older Interarms model. Anyway, enjoy both of them.
Handgun stopping power is a complete myth. It's the indian not the arrow! The Walther PP and PPK are legends, and one of the best pistols ever made. Unless there's some new development in ammo they'll still make them in a hundred years, it's just right. BTW the Ruger Mark series pistols is in my mind the best semi auto handgun ever designed.
I have a 1971 West German PP in nickel. I was surprised at how tight of target results are at the range . You can’t beat a single/double action with hammer.
It’s already for sale out there? I’m definitely getting one. The .380 version was painful for me to shoot (and the beaver tail left welts). .32 should be fun and comfortable.
My brother has the usa made walther ppk. He shoots it all the time. Never seen him have a problem. That arkansas walther plant really did a nice job on these. Pretty sure no mim parts either.
I'm really excited about the walther pp coming back, especially in 32 acp. I just hope it takes off and they expand the line into a high polish blued version or even a modernized optics ready threaded model.
Just my opinion, I don't think they will bring back blued because their mission statement was to 'modernize' the PPK for daily carry and part of that was replacing the blued finish that was prone to wear with a seriously strong melanite finish for every day carry. My melanite PPK looks absolutely brand new after a year of carry, shooting and dry fire practice !
Same here. Slide bite was the reason I don’t use it today at 69. But, now that I moved out of my high crime California neighborhood to a small town in Texas, I feel way more secure and safe. Might it be this new handgun could be not only a purdy thang, but a hoot to shoot! 😂
CZ needs to up the game and rerelease the CZ83. While not the most prettiest 380/32 it can hold over 12 rounds of 380 and isnt snappy. Really great feeling hand gun. Ergo and accuracy is great.
I have a PPK/S bought it around 1980 it was made in W Germany and was apparently imported by Interarms I love it. Had it ceracoated could have hurt the value but it will never leave me. I almost sold it a few weeks after I bought it cause I wasn't sure about the 380 cartridge. The thing shoots like a 22 target pistol it's very comforting in my pocket.
I have an older model. Whenever I shoot it, I have to remember, keep thumb down. Not fun when it cuts the webbing of your hand. Well-made and accurate. As you mentioned, bought it when James Bond made the switch.
These elegant guns were truly groundbreaking in their day, with the firing pin block on the safety, and the loaded chamber indicator over the hammer. Dad brought one back from WW-2. He got if as a "gift" from a soldier whose wife was dying of TB; dad arranged compassionate leave. Dad went to his CO to see if this was ok, and the CO was playing with one from the same soldier. I have a new PPK, too. These oldies appear in the movie Budapest Hotel, set in the 1930s, during a big gun fight. Great stuff. --Old Guy
Wish they'd have a variant with the original short beavertail on the new PPK, PPK/s, and PP, but I'm glad to see the PP back at all. Especially with a 32ACP option.
Couldn't help noticing the low seial # . Looks like it's the 20th made. Just picked up a Smith& Weson PPKS Just picked up a Smith & Wesson PPKS at my local shop. Love it!
One fact that goes a little unnoticed is in the first James Bond movie "Dr. No" when James Bond (by Sean Connery) is issued his Walther "PPK" in the beginning, the gun that he uses throughout the film is actually a Walther PP.
You should watch the Forgotten Weapons youtube video on the "Guns of James Bond." It was just put out last week. Almost none of the guns used by Bond were what they were supposed to be.
Salut Sir, I have to compliment you on your recoil control, the muzzle hardly flips at all. Yes I know the gun is all steel etc however your personal ability to keep the gun on point of aim is very impressive. As a 70 year old with much diminished muscles I do envy your abilities. Cordialement from France. RB
I fired a PPK (I think it was a /S) only once. A friend had bought a used one that was beautifully engraved and had wood grips. The feeling in the hand was amazing. It shot very well. I was suitably impressed. I would love to get one of these PPs out to the range.
In 1980 i picked up a Walther PP in 22lr, i carried that gun so much i had to have it Re-blued twice, I have some were around forty thousand rounds through it, back when you could pick up a brick of ammo for around five bucks!
I have a pre-war (Zella-Mehlis) PPK in .22 I inherited. Before I really realized it was a bit more valuable than I first thought, it was one of my favorite plinkers/garden guns. Always took real good care of it, am just a bit more leery of using it that way. It works great as long as you run the zippiest rounds you can get.
Many years ago as a serving member of the security forces in Northern Ireland ,at the height of the fighting, I used the Walther 9mm short, easily concealed, accurate, reliable, lethal , it never let me down. I also used the 9mm Browning , I much preferred the Walther.
Thank's Don, I've been subbed to your channel for at least 5 years, My late Brother, went to my LGS and bought a Walther PP-Ks, using ball ammo, It stove piped on every fourth round, he took It back, and the man said It needed to have some work, my Brother said, I just bough a $434 pistol, and should not need to be worked on for a brand pistol function, this was 1974. 👍🇺🇸
Interarms manufactured some sketchy PPKs in the USA back in the 70's under license from Walther. The German-produced versions were perfect from the factory. Blame the Gun-Control Act for not allowing these $1000 "Saturday Night Specials" to be imported into this country.from Germany who knew how to produce firearms that work properly out of the box.
My biggest regret was swapping my 1982 Walther PPK/S straight across for a blue Ruger Redhawk in 1986. I wasn’t carrying it concealed as much and wanted a hunting revolver. I used to load mine with hot Super-Vel HP’s, about 95 grains IIRC, but it never had a malfunction with any ammo once. Mine was a Manhurin made on the original German equipment moved to St. Etienne France after the war. The Redhawk is now worth 3 times what it was worth in 1986, while that PPK/S is going for at least 5 times what I paid then. Of course this new PP isn’t on the CA Roster, but hope that changes. They’ve always had heavy DA triggers, but SA is nice and crisp. The best way to shoot this is to learn to point shoot it because the sights are so minimal. Thanks for the first look! 👍 P.S. The last used stainless PPK/S I saw on consignment was going for $1100, so this isn’t a bad price considering.
Excellent review as always ! Great little gun, but I don't see where it fits in the marketplace. For pocket carry there are several better choices ( IMO )
The only time Agent 007 carried the PP was in the first Bond movie, Dr. No, after he had to turn in his 6.35mm (.25 auto) Beretta due to its lack of stopping power.
I really want the melonite but knowing me, ill immediately get whatever comes out first. Thats how I ended up with the stainless .32 but it grew on me but I must have patience this time if there be a wait.
I have an FEG AP-MBP, which is a Hungarian clone of the Walther PP in .32 ACP, and I absolutely love it. It has an aluminum frame rather than a steel one, but the recoil is still very light. I can only imagine how smooth an original PP with a steel frame shoots.
I have another brand of .380 auto pocket gun. Regardless of pistol brand a .380 auto cartridge will stop a threat when used for self defense. The size of my .380 auto is as small as you can get. Carried in a pocket holster ready for a fast draw when needed. Absolutely concealable without printing.
While I like Walthers (I own a P38), I will stick with my aluminum framed SIG P230 to fill this niche. it has a slightly shorter barrel (3.6") and is much lighter for concealed carry use. Thanks for the review.
I hear there have been a lot of problems with the smith and wesson manufactured walthers, with general low quality, and serious reliability issues. Other than the Smith and Wesson production, the Walther is a great pistol with an outstanding service record. I think the Walther is very under rated, and over looked. Its also capable of outstanding accuracy. I would love to see the PP with a double stack mag option.
Got all three versions, Stainless PPK, PPKs and two blued Manurhin PP's, one .380 that looks brand new and a Police trade-in in 7.65 Browning. Both are 1950's manufactured by their SS's. They need to go back to the old style sights. That fixed in hideous!
Oh my, with a 3-pound trigger, the .32 acp black version of the pp may do well in ex-ordnance bullseye in my small hand. A bit expensive for me, at the moment, but somebody may buy one and sell it to buy something else, so it may be available secondhand in some time.
Just seeing this review at this moment, literally a day after purchasing a vintage PP in .32 (my first .32) that I’d had on hold for a year. 😂. Not saying I wouldn’t have bought the vintage PP and instead bought a new PP but the timing is hilarious. I actually chose the PP over the PPK which was just tiny and uncomfortable in my hand. I have not shot the old PP yet but am looking forward to it. I have the PPK/s in 22 and 380. Love them both. Thanks for the review Sootch. In a field of solid reviewers , you are the best. I especially enjoy your vintage pistol reviews. Thanks for the review and bursting my bubble (maybe)😊, though I must admit it was self inflicted.
great video as always. i get the weight helping to make shootable as i had a old model 83 Bersa that was steel framed snd it shot so much smoother then a newer bersa thunder 380 with its aluminum frame. wished id kept it now.
Frankly, I carried a PP and PPK in years past as a backup pistol. They were. 380. They would bite my gun hand web and were not as reliable as I would like. Then I got two new Makarov PMs and a CZ82 in 9mm Mak I use 9mm+p Mak for them. I sold the Watlhers and never looked back. I know you have featured the Maks in the past. They were designed after the Walther and are a product improvement. I find the PM to be more accurate, easier to shoot, and rock solid reliable with a better trigger. If someone was smart, they would market .380 barrel swaps for the PMs and produce (and some 10 rd extended mags) .380+p ammo for them. Thanks.
Watching You pull trigger in da mod reminded me of my first pistol. I had a hard time adjusting between da/sa trigger pullsl. Spent lot of time training before qualifying for duty use. Can really appreciate a well made / reliable firearm, but a drastic difference in trigger pulls is a downer for carry gun.
Great to see the PP is back. Best in .32 ACP (Winchester 32 Auto 60 Grain Silvertip JHP load is best IMO) for people with weak hands or arthritis as the .380 ACP is a bit snappy, though I would carry the .380 ACP variant (Corbon 380 Auto 90gr Self-Defense JHP load is best IMO). The 3.9" barrel is great as it helps ensure the bullets in these low power rounds expand reliably. Also MUCH safer to carry than any Glock with the heavy DA trigger pull and external hammer while it also has double strike capability.
No weak hands or arthritis (knock on wood) but when I went to the range with my new PPK .380 to do my standard 500 round break-in, that little F'er made me tap out. My hand was sore with aproximately 200 rounds through it. Haven't touched that S.O.B. since. SIG P238 is the way to go if .380 & discretion is your goal. Take care Brother!
@@Gieszkanne That is like saying a hot loaded .38 Special has the same kick as a .357 Magnum. A hot loaded .380 has a lot more recoil than any .32 load. That S&B load has about 170 ft-lbs of energy, but a hot loaded Underwood Ammo .380 load (68gr at 1,400 fps) has about 300 ft-lbs of energy.
@@Lutz101 Not really. I dont live in the US and the "hot" 32 are rather the normal load in Europe. I dont know why the 32 in US are so weak and downloaded. And hot 380ies are pointless. Than you could right away chose a 9mm.
@@Nahar144K Snappy recoil for sure. I much prefer the heavier PP for .380 ammo for the reduced recoil, superior ballistics and longer sight radius for competition, plinking, small game hunting and home defense. A PP weighs about the same as G19 but is a lot easier to conceal carry and has very good stopping power with the best +P .380 loads which have around 300 ft-lbs energy (Underwood Ammo, Buffalo Bore, etc.). It is also much safer to carry than a Glock with the DA trigger and external hammer, is a far better impact weapon with its steel frame, and has double strike capability.
Thanks for this review, I've always loved the looks of the PP!! I have an East German Makarov, which is a copy of the PP, so I'd love to compare the two!! Safe shooting!
I HAVE ONE OF THE FIRST INTERARMS PPK; WITH THE ORIIGINAL BEAVERTAIL. I'VE SHOT A BUDDY'S WITH THE NEW STYLE BEAVERTAIL AND I DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY IT SNAGGED ON A DRAW FROM UNDER MY SHIRT! I'M GLAD I'VE GOT THE ORIGINAL RECEIPE!
Had two different PPK s’ by two different manufacturers, they both feel good in the hand, Strait shooters, but had reliability issues with both brands I spoke to other owners that had similar problems
At 3:10 you say it has a magazine disconnect safety, yet later on in the same video (12:07 onward) you are repeatedly pulling the trigger with no magazine in the pistol. Not sure why you originally thought it had a disconnect, however I'm grateful to see that this is not actually true. It wouldn't make sense, the PPK, PPK/S, and original PP never had such a downgrade.
Correction: The Walther PP does not have a magazine disconnect.
Thanks! Hate those. Leads to malfunctions of the major kind. Magazines so stuck you would need to be ready to fling that thing as a last resort.
Forgiven 🚬💀
produced in germany or usa?
Now it's time for Smith & Wesson to bring back the 5900 series, cheers from Brazil. I love old school pistols.
I've emailed smith and wesson with no luck. Just ended up buying a used one in excellent condition.
@@GIJose You are lucky that you could buy a gun, in Brazil the government disarmed us, never let this happen in the USA.
I always have liked these. Hopefully Sig will bring back the 232. The Mauser HSC is a fine piece as well. Some niced checked wood grips would really set it off. All good. From east Kentucky, bust some caps
@@samhill3496I have a p232 two tone but the night sights went out long ago lol. Gotta email sig.
I agree about the S&Ws but also bring back the 39 series as well. love my M39 and M909.
I have had a Walther PP for 44 years. Carried it for eight when I was in the DA’s Office, and now as a back up carry gun. In all the time it has not had a single malfunction. Not one. In 44 years.
@TeamSootch-c5j It even said, in English, on the side, “Made in West Germany” - bought it from a retiring cop I knew at the DA’s Office. Decocker/safety is a brilliant function. Perfect carry gun for formal occasions…. “…Shaken, not stirred….”
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Thats typical Walther quality!
@@blueduck9409 what blowsw me away is the last walther i bought, a ppk/s .22 for my son for practicing with DA/SA (he uses an HK P30LS with grayguns modos in competition shooting, does really well too) and also for fun, it broke 3x! his spouse's which was heavily used and when he opened it up to clean it, it was completely a few mm-thick layer of cordite gunk etc, and it fired 4000 rounds with all that buildup before he cleaned it! (his spouse was in Oregon we were in Utah at the time otherwise we would have made sure they cleaned it lol, newbie gun owners :P)
Have an East Berlin PP in
32ACP. Built in a Walther factory that the Russians took over post WW2. Works perfect.
@@clydekirby6340 you lucky bastard.
I also have one here in the Philippines above the serial number there is a written name “Alexander”
@@ZaldyEspartero-p2p Very cool!
Ahhh the model 1001 , I had one for years.
East German 1001's still retrained good accuracy but the finish wasn't as good, I did like the bakelite grips.
Old school is now new. It's nice to see something that's not plastic. Plastic works great but we like options.
Plastic (Glock) will last longer, long after most here are long long gone 😢
@carminemurray6624 nah plastic won't and the durability is absolutely garbage. Buddy's dog got it, the entire frame is literally gone.
People still have ww1 era metal framed guns in top condition
@@celphalonred1999shit some people have weapons from the Napoleonic wars.
The classic design combined with modern enhancements makes it a solid option for anyone looking for a reliable .380 ACP.
I own the 440th PP ever made! It’s almost its 95th birthday!
Nice! I have the second from last one off the production line from 1999.
Holy crap! That .32 acp with threaded barrel is now on my wish list, even though I recently bought a PPK/S in .380. It’s my James Bond gun. Still one of the sexiest guns ever made.
Well said on your part, bravo
As someone who truly appreciates .380 ACP, I love seeing all of these quality .380 pistols coming out.
Makes no sense.
That gun is so big and heavy because that was the technology back then.
They could easily make the same gun in 9x19 now.
The loss of effectiveness by stepping down to 380 is pointless without the benefit of small and light guns like the lcp max or the bodyguard 2.
@@deejayimm 24oz is heavy for you? and with Federal .380 HST you're OK at typical short distances.
@@deejayimm "They could easily make the same gun in 9x19 now"
No they cannot. It's a Straight Blowback Design with a fixed barrel, it's not anywhere near the same thing like the Browning or such designs we have on most firearms today. This was system that really only could work mechanically on cartridges below the power and pressures that 9x19 has, and yes it has been tried by all the major manufacturers over the last century, the design just cannot handle 9x19, the only company that comes anywhere near the "success" is Hi Point because they have to increase the size and weight of their monstrosities. People seriously need to put away this fantasy.
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Im so excited, someone stole my grandfather's Walther collection years ago,his Walther pp was supposed to go to me but again someone stole his collection the day before he passed,in my heart I believe that heartbreak had a part in his passing 😢
That sucks. I have a lot of books, his officers dress sword and other memorabilia from my grandfather. I’d be heartbroken if any of it got stolen.
@@chuckcribbs3398 exactly it happened years ago but I think about it all the time,it truly breaks my heart.and I only have a couple things from my grandfather,I remember when I was little growing up and seeing his Walthers that he brought back from the war and I was promised the Walther pp and the Luger and they both were stolen 😢
Sounds like an inside job.
I know a lot of tacticool, wannabe John Wick TH-camrs talk trash on these and the PPK, but I fully disagree. Yes, there are some limitations of the design compared to modern, striker-fire ultra compacts, BUT these guns are time-tested, durable, safe and smooth to shoot - especially if you train and are comfortable with a DA/SA setup.
Beautiful piece of industrial art.
Hi Powers, old 1911s, and Walther PP/PPK all make me bleed. Hammer bite from the 1911, slide cuts from the Walther, and both from the Browning.
Big beavertails are a blessing.
Thanks for another great and informative video. It is good to see the PP back and in both 32 and 380 ACP. I'd like to mention, especially for those younger guys who still like to compensate for their small ego with ever bigger yet useless pickups and major caliber pistols never actually carried, that the 380 ACP has a LOOONG history of being an effective personal defense round in both full sized handguns and easily concealable handguns like the excellent Walther pistols. In the early 20th century, Colt developed the 380 ACP for use as a easy to handle but effective personal defence weapon not unlike the modern Smith & Wesson EZ Shield also in 380 ACP. Evidently, they too know the value and versatility of that excellent cartridge. Colt chambered it in their popular 1903 Pocket Hammerless which was extremely popular among plainclothes police officers, military aircrew and military general officers for decades. I can recall the great handgun writer, Skeeter Skelton, writing of the Pocket Hammerless in 380 ACP as being ideal for close combat and extraordinarily easy to carry concealed for undercover Special Agents because of its slim and smooth design and finish. One simply slid it the waistband just behind the hip bone. It was so useful, popular and successful that the Germans, French and Italians and their many subsidiaries produced models both full sized and compact, single action and double action, in the 380 ACP. Colt produced small "Mustang" models which were similar in appearance to the venerable and heroic 1911 and, literally, millions of those were made in 32 and 380 ACP all over the world by a wide variety of manufacturers. As a young police officer and being deeply underpaid, I sought a low cost 380 ACP similar to the expensive Walther and opted, regrettably, for the Astra Constable II and later for the Bersa Thunderer which was also an unsafe disappointment but my goal was to have concealable pistol like the prototype Walther in the effective 380 ACP. Today, now that I am retired from police work, I still carry a 380 in the very reliable, easy to shoot and utterly concealable combat pistol, the Taurus PT738. I repeat to these younger guys that a 22 in your pocket is much more effective than a 44 Magnum left in your nightstand or your glovebox. It will do you no good there! If you are going to carry then CARRY it. Need to facilitate that? Get a 380 ACP like this excellent Walther or a dozen other super lightweight, safe, reliable and low cost pistols from Taurus, Ruger, Smith and many more.
My PPK/S 380 stainless is the Interarms Walther. Nice compact pistol but I just bought it for collection purposes and is still unfired. My bedroom gun is a vintage S&W Model 36 with the 3” barrel in 38 Special revolver.
@@robertonavarro7713 My regular carry gun is my S&W Model 36 "Chief's Special", which I bought new in 2016. It works well with a pocket holster. I also have a Walter PPK, in SST, which I bought in 2008 (.380 ACP). My PPK was manufactured under license by S&W. I have fired it many times. I gave it some nice Hogue rosewood grips, which I like better than the stock grips.
@@Thorr-kl6jl Glad to know that you have both the Model 36 and the Walther PPK. I think your new Walther has a longer beaver tail than my older Interarms model. Anyway, enjoy both of them.
I owned a PPK/s in the early 80's in 380.... I miss that little gun.
Glad to see.32 coming back around! It's a fun cartridge and can be effective.
what gets me is, if a military 100 years ago used this caliber, why would a modern gun user say? is the 380acp "enough" of course it is!! unbelievable
Handgun stopping power is a complete myth. It's the indian not the arrow! The Walther PP and PPK are legends, and one of the best pistols ever made. Unless there's some new development in ammo they'll still make them in a hundred years, it's just right. BTW the Ruger Mark series pistols is in my mind the best semi auto handgun ever designed.
@@CandidZulu tru only placement or number of hits count not caliber or stile of bullet ( in small firearms)
@@CandidZuluagree 1000%
I have the old Walther PP in 22lr which was given by my late dad as my first gun.
It is amazing to see a new production Walther PP
Beautiful firearm! I'm intrigued! Great review! Never thought they would bring the PP back. I would love Walther to bring the P5 back!
I bought the PPK.380 a year ago. It's a fantastic CCW option. I can't wait to pick up the PP in melonite.
I have a 1971 West German PP in nickel. I was surprised at how tight of target results are at the range . You can’t beat a single/double action with hammer.
Got the new PPKs .32, awesome handgun
Me wants
@@melissasmess2773me doubleplus wants
It’s already for sale out there? I’m definitely getting one. The .380 version was painful for me to shoot (and the beaver tail left welts). .32 should be fun and comfortable.
@@Brad-ic4bp .32 is not snappy at all in my experience so far. Enjoy
@@Brad-ic4bp 32 is way more pleasant for the pp/ppk than 380 planning to trade out my 380 ppk for a 32
My brother has the usa made walther ppk. He shoots it all the time. Never seen him have a problem. That arkansas walther plant really did a nice job on these. Pretty sure no mim parts either.
I really like the quality of the finish. It looks like Walter turned up the quality of the finish and polish work. I'd go with the .32
I have the Mauser version. I was in the vending business back in the day and carried it . Very nice conceal carry.
I have an older PP, I'm 75 now. The pistol I have "laugh" is a Manurhin from the 50's.
I'm really excited about the walther pp coming back, especially in 32 acp. I just hope it takes off and they expand the line into a high polish blued version or even a modernized optics ready threaded model.
Or wood grips
Just my opinion, I don't think they will bring back blued because their mission statement was to 'modernize' the PPK for daily carry and part of that was replacing the blued finish that was prone to wear with a seriously strong melanite finish for every day carry. My melanite PPK looks absolutely brand new after a year of carry, shooting and dry fire practice !
I have a PPK (blue) in 32 cal and a PPK/S (blue) in 380. Both made in Germany. A couple of great guns. Very reliable. Thanks or the video. Enjoyed it.
Heck yeah, I have a nice Walther PP that was manufactured in West Germany...happy they brought it back
Very nice clip Don,
I just recently looked back at the original PP and have always loved this model.
Great news , great updates on your part.
Be well
I've had three of the PPks in the past and loved them except for the slide bite. Can't wait to get one of these new ones with the extended tail!
Same here. Slide bite was the reason I don’t use it today at 69. But, now that I moved out of my high crime California neighborhood to a small town in Texas, I feel way more secure and safe. Might it be this new handgun could be not only a purdy thang, but a hoot to shoot! 😂
CZ needs to up the game and rerelease the CZ83. While not the most prettiest 380/32 it can hold over 12 rounds of 380 and isnt snappy. Really great feeling hand gun. Ergo and accuracy is great.
I'd like to see the east German Makarov pm being made again in Germany....yes I'm a Makarov fan but I love all the 380 and 9mm makes and pistols
Have one. Excellent 380. Should make an alloy frame, cut weight to around 20 ounces
Used in Dr. No as Stand in for the PPK. The PPK had little Problems with Blanks. Ian has a nice Vid about that. Not very old.
My CZ83 is all steel with 12+ rounds. Not snappy.
I have a PPK/S bought it around 1980 it was made in W Germany and was apparently imported by Interarms I love it. Had it ceracoated could have hurt the value but it will never leave me. I almost sold it a few weeks after I bought it cause I wasn't sure about the 380 cartridge. The thing shoots like a 22 target pistol it's very comforting in my pocket.
I actually prefer the Browning 1911-380 with the 4¼" barrel. Accurate, and less recoil, using a locked breech, instead of blowback.
I have an older model. Whenever I shoot it, I have to remember, keep thumb down. Not fun when it cuts the webbing of your hand. Well-made and accurate. As you mentioned, bought it when James Bond made the switch.
These elegant guns were truly groundbreaking in their day, with the firing pin block on the safety, and the loaded chamber indicator over the hammer. Dad brought one back from WW-2. He got if as a "gift" from a soldier whose wife was dying of TB; dad arranged compassionate leave. Dad went to his CO to see if this was ok, and the CO was playing with one from the same soldier. I have a new PPK, too. These oldies appear in the movie Budapest Hotel, set in the 1930s, during a big gun fight. Great stuff. --Old Guy
Wish they'd have a variant with the original short beavertail on the new PPK, PPK/s, and PP, but I'm glad to see the PP back at all. Especially with a 32ACP option.
Maybe they're saving it for a 100th anniversary edition?
Beautiful looking pistol.
Omg ! I was just saying last night how I wished they would do these again
The Walther PP will definitely be my next purchase! I want it in stainless, but 32 acp instead of 380 acp.
Couldn't help noticing the low seial # . Looks like it's the 20th made. Just picked up a Smith& Weson PPKS Just picked up a
Smith & Wesson PPKS at my local shop. Love it!
The PP in SS is really new. They where never made in stainless. Only the PPK and PPK/S.
Beautiful gun and I love Walther. I have a PDP F. That said, Beretta has the 80x Cheetah Tactical for almost $200 less.
It’s great to see this venerable old pistol back in production. Now if we could get Mauser to bring back the C96, that would be amazing.
FREAKIN A!!
One fact that goes a little unnoticed is in the first James Bond movie "Dr. No" when James Bond (by Sean Connery) is issued his Walther "PPK" in the beginning, the gun that he uses throughout the film is actually a Walther PP.
You should watch the Forgotten Weapons youtube video on the "Guns of James Bond." It was just put out last week. Almost none of the guns used by Bond were what they were supposed to be.
Salut Sir, I have to compliment you on your recoil control, the muzzle hardly flips at all. Yes I know the gun is all steel etc however your personal ability to keep the gun on point of aim is very impressive. As a 70 year old with much diminished muscles I do envy your abilities. Cordialement from France. RB
I fired a PPK (I think it was a /S) only once. A friend had bought a used one that was beautifully engraved and had wood grips. The feeling in the hand was amazing. It shot very well. I was suitably impressed. I would love to get one of these PPs out to the range.
Greetings from Malta 🇲🇹 Europe. Walther collector...my bank account won't be too happy with this, hehe. Great review as always ❤
In 1980 i picked up a Walther PP in 22lr, i carried that gun so much i had to have it Re-blued twice, I have some were around forty thousand rounds through it, back when you could pick up a brick of ammo for around five bucks!
Just curious, how many rounds does your walther.22 hold on magazine+barrel?
I have a pre-war (Zella-Mehlis) PPK in .22 I inherited. Before I really realized it was a bit more valuable than I first thought, it was one of my favorite plinkers/garden guns. Always took real good care of it, am just a bit more leery of using it that way. It works great as long as you run the zippiest rounds you can get.
Great review! Best PP vs PPK comparison, never knew the difference.
Thanks for showing us your “PP”.
Hahaha!
And an older pp
Titter
It would be a lot of fun if they also offered it in 9x18 police ultra again. It is a beautiful classic for sure!
Many years ago as a serving member of the security forces in Northern Ireland ,at the height of the fighting, I used the Walther 9mm short, easily concealed, accurate, reliable, lethal , it never let me down. I also used the 9mm Browning , I much preferred the Walther.
Thank's Don, I've been subbed to your channel for at least 5 years, My late Brother, went to my LGS and bought a Walther PP-Ks, using ball ammo, It stove piped on every fourth round, he took It back, and the man said It needed to have some work, my Brother said, I just bough a $434 pistol, and should not need to be worked on for a brand pistol function, this was 1974. 👍🇺🇸
Interarms manufactured some sketchy PPKs in the USA back in the 70's under license from Walther. The German-produced versions were perfect from the factory. Blame the Gun-Control Act for not allowing these $1000 "Saturday Night Specials" to be imported into this country.from Germany who knew how to produce firearms that work properly out of the box.
I have a 1952 Manurhin PP. Love that Walther brought it back but wished they'd made it with the original beaver tail.
My biggest regret was swapping my 1982 Walther PPK/S straight across for a blue Ruger Redhawk in 1986. I wasn’t carrying it concealed as much and wanted a hunting revolver. I used to load mine with hot Super-Vel HP’s, about 95 grains IIRC, but it never had a malfunction with any ammo once.
Mine was a Manhurin made on the original German equipment moved to St. Etienne France after the war. The Redhawk is now worth 3 times what it was worth in 1986, while that PPK/S is going for at least 5 times what I paid then.
Of course this new PP isn’t on the CA Roster, but hope that changes. They’ve always had heavy DA triggers, but SA is nice and crisp. The best way to shoot this is to learn to point shoot it because the sights are so minimal. Thanks for the first look! 👍
P.S. The last used stainless PPK/S I saw on consignment was going for $1100, so this isn’t a bad price considering.
Excellent review as always !
Great little gun, but I don't see where it fits in the marketplace. For pocket carry there are several better choices ( IMO )
You got yourself a real low serial number PP !
It would have been a sample from Walther for T&E so it would have been one of the first ones they produced in this new batch
They brought back the Walther PP?!
I always prefer the standard PP over the PPK for some reason...
Maybe I just like bigger guns xD
Looks like all the boys got their six-packs from Walther!
Fort Smith is carrying the load for the Walther brand these days.
I hope they get their manufacturing issues corrected.
The only time Agent 007 carried the PP was in the first Bond movie, Dr. No, after he had to turn in his 6.35mm (.25 auto) Beretta due to its lack of stopping power.
The Beretta..."nice and light...in a lady's handbag!" Always loved that line, really put 007 in his place!
Wow, that recoil spring looks like it came off a 63 Plymouth. 😂
U should see the one on my polish p83 makarov 😣
Now being back the TPH
I really want the melonite but knowing me, ill immediately get whatever comes out first. Thats how I ended up with the stainless .32 but it grew on me but I must have patience this time if there be a wait.
Thank you🎉🎉🎉
I was hoping Wealther would fix the trigger SA.
You can carry locked and cocked.
My personal opinion, shared by many friends and despised by but a few ones: "it will never be obsolete, as it has been born perfect"
That Walther reminds me of the .32acp Armi Galesi that Sootch reviewed a few years ago.
I have an FEG AP-MBP, which is a Hungarian clone of the Walther PP in .32 ACP, and I absolutely love it. It has an aluminum frame rather than a steel one, but the recoil is still very light. I can only imagine how smooth an original PP with a steel frame shoots.
I have another brand of .380 auto pocket gun. Regardless of pistol brand a .380 auto cartridge will stop a threat when used for self defense. The size of my .380 auto is as small as you can get. Carried in a pocket holster ready for a fast draw when needed. Absolutely concealable without printing.
While I like Walthers (I own a P38), I will stick with my aluminum framed SIG P230 to fill this niche.
it has a slightly shorter barrel (3.6") and is much lighter for concealed carry use.
Thanks for the review.
Over had mine for almost 50 years great handgun
I've had mine
Fat fingers
Thanks for a good video I already feel like a James Bond Agent 😄 Greetings from Stockholm Sweden 👍🇸🇪
I hear there have been a lot of problems with the smith and wesson manufactured walthers, with general low quality, and serious reliability issues. Other than the Smith and Wesson production, the Walther is a great pistol with an outstanding service record. I think the Walther is very under rated, and over looked. Its also capable of outstanding accuracy.
I would love to see the PP with a double stack mag option.
SO excited for this!! I was wondering if Walther would re-introduce the PP! When can we really expect these to hit the market?
Got all three versions, Stainless PPK, PPKs and two blued Manurhin PP's, one .380 that looks brand new and a Police trade-in in 7.65 Browning. Both are 1950's manufactured by their SS's. They need to go back to the old style sights. That fixed in hideous!
Oh my, with a 3-pound trigger, the .32 acp black version of the pp may do well in ex-ordnance bullseye in my small hand. A bit expensive for me, at the moment, but somebody may buy one and sell it to buy something else, so it may be available secondhand in some time.
I've been wanting a blued or black PP/PPK. So I think I've gotta find one of these bad boys.
I'm happy to see it also has the loaded chamber cartridge indicator retained.
I enjoy my ppks. Added cocobolo grips to it.
Just seeing this review at this moment, literally a day after purchasing a vintage PP in .32 (my first .32) that I’d had on hold for a year. 😂. Not saying I wouldn’t have bought the vintage PP and instead bought a new PP but the timing is hilarious. I actually chose the PP over the PPK which was just tiny and uncomfortable in my hand. I have not shot the old PP yet but am looking forward to it. I have the PPK/s in 22 and 380. Love them both. Thanks for the review Sootch. In a field of solid reviewers , you are the best. I especially enjoy your vintage pistol reviews. Thanks for the review and bursting my bubble (maybe)😊, though I must admit it was self inflicted.
I'll take the ppk without the threaded barrel
I believe the name was PPKS for the original stainless steel model but you are right about it being a comfortable carry gun
great video as always. i get the weight helping to make shootable as i had a old model 83 Bersa that was steel framed snd it shot so much smoother then a newer bersa thunder 380 with its aluminum frame. wished id kept it now.
Agent Scully also used something like PPK in the first seasons
UNITED STATES I. R. I. E. the real "X-Files" ?
One more pistol I wish they remake: TPH . In 22lr & 25 ACP . I bet they will sell like hot cakes
You need a Lyman spring loaded Military trigger gauge. I'd bet you would get a 12-14 lb. pull with that gun.
Frankly, I carried a PP and PPK in years past as a backup pistol. They were. 380. They would bite my gun hand web and were not as reliable as I would like. Then I got two new Makarov PMs and a CZ82 in 9mm Mak I use 9mm+p Mak for them. I sold the Watlhers and never looked back. I know you have featured the Maks in the past. They were designed after the Walther and are a product improvement. I find the PM to be more accurate, easier to shoot, and rock solid reliable with a better trigger. If someone was smart, they would market .380 barrel swaps for the PMs and produce (and some 10 rd extended mags) .380+p ammo for them. Thanks.
😆 Am I the only one who giggles each time Sootch says, 'PP'?!
Walther website is unresponsive LOL Too many fans
Watching You pull trigger in da mod reminded me of my first pistol. I had a hard time adjusting between da/sa trigger pullsl. Spent lot of time training before qualifying for duty use. Can really appreciate a well made / reliable firearm, but a drastic difference in trigger pulls is a downer for carry gun.
Great to see the PP is back. Best in .32 ACP (Winchester 32 Auto 60 Grain Silvertip JHP load is best IMO) for people with weak hands or arthritis as the .380 ACP is a bit snappy, though I would carry the .380 ACP variant (Corbon 380 Auto 90gr Self-Defense JHP load is best IMO). The 3.9" barrel is great as it helps ensure the bullets in these low power rounds expand reliably. Also MUCH safer to carry than any Glock with the heavy DA trigger pull and external hammer while it also has double strike capability.
Hot loads in 32 like S&B 70gr that is rated at 1050fps has the same kick as 380.
No weak hands or arthritis (knock on wood) but when I went to the range with my new PPK .380 to do my standard 500 round break-in, that little F'er made me tap out. My hand was sore with aproximately 200 rounds through it. Haven't touched that S.O.B. since. SIG P238 is the way to go if .380 & discretion is your goal. Take care Brother!
@@Gieszkanne That is like saying a hot loaded .38 Special has the same kick as a .357 Magnum. A hot loaded .380 has a lot more recoil than any .32 load. That S&B load has about 170 ft-lbs of energy, but a hot loaded Underwood Ammo .380 load (68gr at 1,400 fps) has about 300 ft-lbs of energy.
@@Lutz101 Not really. I dont live in the US and the "hot" 32 are rather the normal load in Europe. I dont know why the 32 in US are so weak and downloaded. And hot 380ies are pointless. Than you could right away chose a 9mm.
@@Nahar144K Snappy recoil for sure. I much prefer the heavier PP for .380 ammo for the reduced recoil, superior ballistics and longer sight radius for competition, plinking, small game hunting and home defense. A PP weighs about the same as G19 but is a lot easier to conceal carry and has very good stopping power with the best +P .380 loads which have around 300 ft-lbs energy (Underwood Ammo, Buffalo Bore, etc.). It is also much safer to carry than a Glock with the DA trigger and external hammer, is a far better impact weapon with its steel frame, and has double strike capability.
Thanks for this review, I've always loved the looks of the PP!! I have an East German Makarov, which is a copy of the PP, so I'd love to compare the two!! Safe shooting!
Great review, and I loved the Obi Wan Kenobi quote.
I HAVE ONE OF THE FIRST INTERARMS PPK; WITH THE ORIIGINAL BEAVERTAIL. I'VE SHOT A BUDDY'S WITH THE NEW STYLE BEAVERTAIL AND I DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY IT SNAGGED ON A DRAW FROM UNDER MY SHIRT! I'M GLAD I'VE GOT THE ORIGINAL RECEIPE!
Had two different PPK s’ by two different manufacturers, they both feel good in the hand, Strait shooters, but had reliability issues with both brands I spoke to other owners that had similar problems
Most reliabilty problems are usually due to either ammo selection, or springs needing replaced. Both are easy and affordable.
Me at 0:00 : they should have re-introduced the .32 acp.
Me at 7:41 : thank you God thank you Walther!
At 3:10 you say it has a magazine disconnect safety, yet later on in the same video (12:07 onward) you are repeatedly pulling the trigger with no magazine in the pistol. Not sure why you originally thought it had a disconnect, however I'm grateful to see that this is not actually true. It wouldn't make sense, the PPK, PPK/S, and original PP never had such a downgrade.
I have been waiting so freaking long for this.