Sonic Youth: The Ugly Break Of The Band Kim Gordon & Thurston Moore
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- Sonic Youth, the ugly break of the band due to the split of Kim Gordon and Thurston Moore.
0:08 - Sonic Youth's History
3:35 - Sonic Youth's Breakup
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Hailing from New York City in the early 80’s, Sonic Youth was part of the experimental no wave art and music scene before changing into a more conventional rock band and becoming prominent members of the American noise rock scene. Author David Browne best described the no-wave scene as a time when and i quote "art, music, illustration - all were in the process of being torn down, reassembled, and combined with other media."
Sonic Youths classic lineup was made up of vocalist and guitarists, Kim Gordon, Thurston Moore, bassist Lee Ranaldo, and drummer Steve Shelley, and they were credited with doing things with guitar that hadn’t really been done before. That included - creating sounds with strangely tuned guitars, using feedback and placing objects on or between between the strings such as drum sticks and power drills. Author Michael Azzerad who has written extensively about America’s indie underground rock scene said the following of sonic youth’s sound:
Sonic Youth could only afford cheap guitars, and cheap guitars sounded like cheap guitars. But with weird tunings or something jammed under a particular fret, those humble instruments could sound rather amazing - bang a drum stick on a cheap Japanese Stratocaster copy in the right tuning, crank the amplifier to within an inch of its life and it will sound like church bells
Sonic Youth would be a huge influence on the alternative rock acts who followed in their footsteps most notably Nirvana who claimed even after the release of their juggernaut album Nevermind that they wanted to be like Sonic Youth.
The band would be one of the most popular yet staunchly independent bands throughout the 80’s in the United States. They spent a good chunk of the decade releasing albums on independent labels with their streak ending after the release of 1988’s Daydream Nation. The album received universal acclaim from critics, but it was met with modest sales. And the band was disappointed with how the their record label Enigma was treating them. The label was suffering from distribution and financial issues, so Sonic Youth would leave them the following year and signed with DGC records, which was owned by Geffen Records. Their first release with Geffen 1990’s Goo, would be their biggest album of their career up until that point. The record would net the band their first appearance on the billboard 200 charts with it selling in excess of 100,000 units and yielded the hit song Kool Thing. The album proved that Sonic Youth they didn’t have to sacrifice their experimental sound, while at the same time being radio friendly
The band’s follow up album Dirty, released in 1992 was put out during the height of grunge’s popularity. The band would work with Nirvana producer butch vig and mixer andy wallace, both of whom wanted to condense down the band’s songs and focus heavily on the guitar sounds. And due to nirvana’s success with nevermind, Geffen records heavily promoted the album and it would chart within the top 100 albums in the US and go gold selling over half a million units. The band would once again work with Producer Butch Vig on their follow up album 1994’s Experimental Jet Set, Trash and No Star. The album would prove to be one of the band’s highest charting records of their career peaking in the top 40 in America. but the record was more subdued and quieter featuring some throwbacks to their indie label days. The same year Gordon and Moore welcomed their first child and the tour to support the album wasn’t as strenuous as their previous records due to Gordon’s pregnancy.
By 1995 the band would headline lollapalooza and following that appearance the band took some time apart while it’s members pursued other musical projects. And between 1995 and 2007 the band would release a series of albums for Geffen records while also starting to release more experimental and instrumental records under their own label. The band would release their first and final album on Matador records in 2009 titled The Eternal. Two years later the band would announce their break up in October of 2011 shocking their fans.
Kim Gordon’s and Thurston Moore would announce in a band statement that the pair had separated after 27 years of marriage. - เพลง
more sonic youth coming!
A-man!
@@christophervan9634 except when he played keys
@@christophervan9634 That's true to the bone, before anything she was bass player, and like Kim Deal, backing vocal or even first vocal.
The PROCLAIMERS!!!!!!
Yes! And please do Pixies, My Bloody Valentine, Dinosaur Jr.!
So Sonic Youth broke up because Thurston Moore started thirstin’ more?
Haha, that's cute
I see what you did there! 😂🤣😅
lol love it. btw, fellow Magma fan?
@@AdolfStalin ayyyy
LOVE IT
"bassist Lee Ranaldo..." Nope - Lee played guitar, Kim was on bass.
As was Mark Ibold
Beat me to it lol
Bassist? Nope! Chuck Testa.
Beat us all to it
we all think the same
I came here to see how many comments there are about "guitarist" Kim Gordon and "bassist" Lee Renaldo.
too fucking many
@@BookofLetters ☺😀😁😂
exactly, OP, exactly
Couldn’t have said it better myself OP
Talk about not getting basic info right.
Bassist Lee Reynaldo? I’ve never seen one pic of him with a bass. What did Kim play? Oh, yea, bass.
yea shit like that gets under my skin as well haha...........
I'm laughing at myself. I don't know why that pissed me off so much
Lol plus the pic of him playing a guitar while he calls him a bassist
Pretty hard to take this video or channel seriously with a comment like that.
@@dujoducom give him a break
He produces double the content most TH-cam creators do
He puts up 5 videos a week
There’s bound to be mistakes
I still remember when the news of Kim and Thurston’s splitting broke and every indie rocker on the internet stopped believing in love.
Such a real comment lol
It was around the time my then girlfriend said no to anal, so I stopped believing in love also.
@@seanado5208 hiney love is the best kind of love...
@@joejones9520 LOL!
Never seemed like a good relationship to be honest. The guy is an eternal mid life crises.
Look up a copy of Kim Gordon's book "Girl in a band" to see how she experienced the break up.
She says that the first sign that something was up came from the fact that Thurston has started smoking again and choosing a very specific brand, the same brand the woman who he was seeing, was known to smoke. She got home and saw the cigarette butts in the ashtray and noticed that they were larger in number than Thurston could smoke on his own.
What a moron. She was so out of his league to begin with.
Kim Gordon has crazy iq lol I’d never cross her
Do we know wether she ever 'played away' too?
These things do tend to be complicated ..and spread over a long time period
@@Moodymongul get outta here with this. Why are you trying to make excuses for TM being a total DB.
@@NotMyName78 Any excuses I gave, were only in your mind. Respect differing outlooks on things.
Yeah, Lee Ranaldo is most definitely not Sonic Youth’s bassist. That’s kind of an important detail.
@@mattharrison5068 0:35
@@brunozapaterparreno8760 I thought they were commenting on him quoting Kim about leaving the stage later, deleted my responses, missed this one. Thanks - note someone actually admitting they were wrong on youtube shocker
@@mattharrison5068 no problem, you're welcome!
@@mattharrison5068 hahahahah I must admit I'm shocked indeed, one of those "faith in humanity restored" moments
Funny that he was surprised he'd be blamed for breaking up the band. When you are the person who broke the heart of a woman whom a lot of people have deep affection for...of course you're gonna be the bad guy
I've admired Thurston Moore's songwriting and guitar playing for a long time, but hearing him downplay and dismiss his own culpability in the breakup is disappointing.
I'm on a roadies social group and from what they all say he was extremely well known for being a self-centred egocentric twat...the complete opposite of Kim and no one understood how the two were actually a couple. Also remember seeing the bass player from Nirvana praising Kim in an interview saying how easy going she was while replying 'no comment' when asked about Thurston.
Is Nirvana’s bass player also named Lee Ranaldo?
@@joonotfins no the vid got you wrong kim is the bass player lee is a guitarist
Check out the trailer for a now old documentary in TH-cam, Autoluminescant about the Australian musician Rowland S Howard. Thurston's there in the mix as he was inspired by Rowland's blistering guitar sounds using only his Jaguar, one FX pedal and a Fender twin reverb.
@@pegasus9536 I think he knows. I believe he meant it as a jab at this video, lol
Steve Shelley is the best drummer nobody has heard of
Who’s that?
He totally deserves more recognition than he's gotten. I'm not even sure he gets enough recognition by SY fans.
He is amazing indeed. Such a distinctive style.
@@davidtingley9978 The first I heard of SY, I immediately loved the percussion work. It was so crisp and played with passion. The whole band never got enough recognition, and the drummer is defo the least well known of them. I still share their stuff with my friends to some success.
@wakenbaker-uk Add DJ Bonebreak to that list.
Kim Gordon always played bass in Sonic Youth. I think she played guitar on some side projects with other people, and she might've done some guitar work in the studio here or there. But the line-up through its glory days featured Thurston Moore and Lee Ronaldo on guitars, Gordon on bass, and Steve Shelley on drums. I saw these guys on the Goo tour, and they were great.
Later in she occasionally played guitar, as well as bass.
Lee Renaldo never played bass with them.
@@davidtingley9978 That's what I thought. Kim Gordon also had a band with Lydia Lunch called Harry Crews - I think she played bass on that. The NY crowd all played in side projects with each other, so there's probably other stuff where she played guitar out there.
In the later years she switched to guitar and they added Mark Ibold from Pavement on bass
Later Jim orourke and Mark ibold played guitar and bass.
I'm pretty sure she played guitar on swimsuit issue
don't wanna be that guy but Kim Gordon was the bassist and vocalist and Lee Ranaldo was a guitarist and vocalist, good video though
Someone had to say it
He calls Ranaldo the bassist and then two minutes later calls him the guitarist.
And Layne Staley was a roadie, Cobain was a guitar tech, and Chris Cornell was a publicist 😂😂😂
Kim did play guitar for a time though.
4:32
I've busted this guy at least 3 times being completely wrong.
He should hire a fact checker.
Or just do a notch above cursory research on the topic of a video.
he's reading from all the wrong cue cards scattered around lol
Lee Ranaldo Bassist... wow. He REALLY needs to hire someone to check his "facts", this is so poorly researched.
I watched one of his videos earlier today where he mentioned multi-instrumentalist Bob Nastanovich from Pavement, but in a photograph highlighted their drummer, Steve West.
His titles are littered with spelling and grammatical errors constantly as well. It's too bad, because he's a very good narrator and he chooses interesting topics. He's just...kind of incompetent.
Shoddy AF
Who's here for the bassist comments? 🍿🍿🍿
If so, you won't be disappointed.
Wait, does that mean that comment was trendy somewhere else?
Plot twist: the switch was intentional so people don’t comment about the break up lol
😀
I don't think anyone is paying any attention to the breakup story!
"Bassist Lee Ranaldo" - How do you have the hubris to make an eight minute video and get it so wrong?
At 4:14, he refers to him again as bassist while there is a picture of him playing guitar.
4:38 he even read a quote that stated he was the guitarist.
and also he was one of the singers
Noticed that too. Not a huge Sonic Youth fan (yet), but even I know that Kim Gordon was the bassist.
Even i was confused and i am not even a fan...can imagine how someone feels who know who is who in this band...lol
I miss Sonic Youth dude. So innovative. That's what I miss about alternative rock, people weren't afraid to create.
Juno movie, Gal Dissed Sonic Youth saying" its just noise" otherwise she had great taste in music, YES a Butch Vig, mention
People are still creating and being creative, it's radio that has changed. No one what's to find the next big thing, they just want the next marketable thing that has the potential to sell. There will always be creative people doing creative things.
people still creating art for arts sake, you just stopped looking
Just say you don’t know how to look for good music.… still plenty of great bands coming out.
Dengue Fever is pretty nice.
As is Nisennenmondai
I remember sonic youth breaking up like it was yesterday, and hearing about Thurston and Kim separating and being shocked. I can’t believe that was 9 years ago. I still love the music they put out, but I don’t have rose colored glasses anymore about certain things. I still love Kim and bought her book right when it came out.
It is very sad how it went. Kim rules.
I know I wanted to see Nirvana and Sonic Youth collaborate together on stage or make music together....Oh what could have been....So close but no cigar 😥😎☹🤓🎸🥁🎹🎶🎵🎼
my friends started a noise-punk band because of them - but nothing good in life lasts forever - try to look back on your past relationships and learn from them - be kind to your exes - your love for them might change - and become the friendship you really need.
I strongly agree, I just wish/hoped people would try a marriage consultant to help fix the problems within their relationship, before going out and getting a new partner which by the way, not only Thurston is a pos for cheating but his side chick as well....Nevertheless you're right they might've had a better friendship going forward.
Daydream Nation is still one of my favourite albums of all time
One of those rare gems where you don't feel the desire to skip a single track.
It was their best record but also the last of their great records.
After Daydream Nation their albums just weren’t as revelatory. They had good tunes here and there, but their 90’s output just seems so dated as so much grunge era “alternative” music does. It almost felt like they were trying even harder to stay hip.
I think they have one of the best overall discography of any band, it's just amazing.
@Adam Strickler Why do you think he/she thinks that?
@@HoiPolloi - Yes, I'd like to know, too.
;-)
Adam Strickler Because I have their whole discography and I’ve listened to it?
@@21innocentbystander - That makes total sense. :-)
I'd like to know why Adam Strickler asked that bizarre question.
@@21innocentbystander That's a good reason to think that.
Some things... Sonic Youth literally got Nirvana on Geffen. Drummer Steve Shelly was originally in the seminal Hardcore band, The Crucifucks. Kim Gordon is 10 years older than the other members. Sonic Youth’s original drummer Richard Edson was in a bunch of movies. I saw SY over 20 times from 89’ til 2010. They were my Grateful Dead
Bassist lee ranaldo?!?
Well spotted. You're the first person to pick that up.
I got into Sonic Youth during their last couple of years together, saw them a bunch of times around the NYC area (one of the few perks of growing up on Long Island), those were some of the best concerts of my life, I got to meet Lee Ranaldo while interning for Pitchfork in Brooklyn, I still play my beat up jazz master guitar because of them, and even went on to start a band with my girlfriend. Stories like these make me really aware of how delicate bands and relationships are, I take sonic youth's story here as a warning, don't loose hold of who you are and why your doing this, and don't get married ;) Thanks for another great video dude!
It's so cool that Rusty from European Vacation was able to start such a great band after his acting career ended.
Fail: kim played bass, lee played guitar... You Obviously not a fan
With a name like that you gotta be a Melvins fan.
I like this dude.....but holy crap.....he NEEDS to step up on the research.
@Piernas Locas lol
he's a guns n' roses fan LOL
Definitely an important band in the alternative rock scene. Sorta the band all the other groups looked at with respect. Daydream Nation is their legacy. Incredible album.
They were as big as the Beatles in 1990
Big as the Beatles? I like SY, but they were not remotely close to being as big as the Beatles.
@@benadams1661You’re joking. Anyway, they peaked in 1988 with Daydream Nation which sold poorly, so I don’t know where you got 1990 from.
Shocked fans? The moment I found out that Thurston and Kim were a married couple I already knew they're on borrowed time. That they lasted that long is a testament on how they kept it together. The band's life was hanging on how the two's married life was. I can't imagine how much Lee and the drummer had to be involved in their arguments just so they would not explode.
FR, never shack up with someone you work with.
I remember when the news came out that the band broke up, I couldn't believe it, I had been a huge fan since the early 90s as a teen, I still listen to they're music now in my 40s , nothing ever lasts......but hey I've introduced my teen daughter to they're music and she loves it
The problem with getting the band members instruments wrong, as has been pointed out repeatedly in the comments, is that if that is wrong, why would I assume anything in the video is correct?
A simple google search before posting the video would solve the problem. As it is I would never bother with any video you put out after that.
I'm gone
This totally sounds like something Tim Pool would say. Hahaha!
Rerr rerr rerr!
agreed. it's TOO EASY to get this right, even if one never heard of them before, which in many videos in this channel seems to be the case.
"E! True Hollywood Story"-esque channel, after all...
You ever consider he just read it wrong or said it backwoards when recording his voice over? God just chill.
@@stuffwithsoph8264 it's not a crime, yeah. but then again, on the technical pov, the voice over, the editing, all that stuff is done after the research. what i'm saying is that, in order to put weekly videos, the research is not being well done. in one hand, it allow us to see the reasearcher OR the writer are not really into rock (which is not a crime again) or they are just beginning to dig it. then it sounds funny that someone who just has discovered something decides to do youtube videos on the matter. on the other hand, this is just a gossip channel, so... i'm chill. just not for me.
I love this band so much because it was my introduction to other kinds of rock and art in general. It was such a shame that the band ended that way but we'll always have decades of amazing music.
A shame Thurston didn’t take more responsibility for the band (and the marriage’s) break up.
I wouldn’t expect him to lol. He seems pretty stuck up.
Hes a major narc
Cool how people assume he's entirely to blame. Everyone here's an expert on how to be in a life long relationship with a girl in your band I guess.
@@GroupConglomerate did you miss the part about the deception and affair?
As I always say, Sonic Youth was one of the few bands that took away the right lesson from Eddie Van Halen -- do something different with that there guitar.
if they ever get back together they'll have to call themselves Sonic Senior Citizens.
Sonic Boomers
Radical Adults
Boooooooo
Sonic Old
Sonic Dotage
Lee Ransldo wasn’t the bassist - Kim was. Lee is a fantastic experimental guitar player in his own right.
At least it wasn't the chick from the "Bull In The Heather" video.
That chick was fit
that's Kathleen Hanna from Bikini Kill
@@stevie778 back then that may of been worth losing your marriage for her 🙂
Back in the day everyone said "hey, who is the hot chick that's now in the band?"
"She's not."
"oh... :("
That chick from the Bull In The Heather vid, Bikini Kill and LeTigre is married to Adam Horowitz from Beastie Boys.
I'll never forget seeing them live. One of the loudest shows I've ever seen.
Saw then live for the 1st time at my 1st concert ever lollapalooza tour 95 Randall's Island NYC I came for cypress Hill I stayed foe sonic youth! Awesome show life changing experience
They were the best sounding band I ever saw live. Loud but very clear sound. They were on point and sounded just as or better than their studio songs.
Saw them with Crazy Horse and Social Distortion. One of the best concerts I've ever seen. Absolutely ecstatic from beginning to end.
Going to pile on about Lee not being the bassist; mainly because he is my favorite guitar player.
Can't figure out what's more disrespectful, Moore cheating on Kim or this video neglecting Kim's role as bass player twice, even with a quote by Kim stating Lee is the guitarist...
Bassist Lee Ranaldo...listen dude, we love Rock & Roll just as much as you do, but you can't make these kinds of mistakes and expect to be taken seriously. Don't write stories on bands you don't know shit about. We won't stop loving your channel, and we'll love you even more for caring bout what's important: getting your facts right. Much love and thanks for the videos!
I never knew about their marriage problems because I was never that involved in their personal lives as a fan. So hearing that is wild to me considering I always thought of them having a somewhat, squeaky clean image. They just came off to me as a couple of good-natured band geeks that got into punk rock.
Kim's interview on Marc Maron's podcast details the split in depth.
The Beatle's classic line-up was: Paul McCartney - spittoon, John Lennon - firecrackers, George Formby - ukelele, and Ringo Starr - vocals, rhythm guitar, lead guitar, harmonica, piano, violin - he also wrote all the songs.
Yasssss 1 of my favorite bands. Still deep love for Kim Gordon 🎸
@@sstaners1234 right so ahead of her time!
"Bassist Lee ranaldo"
Pictured with a guitar.
Hmm...
LOL meanwhile Kim's holding a bass in every live picture
I still remember the first time I heard SY. Me and my friend Marcos were skipping school and sitting on these steps outside some stores talking. Suddenly he pulls out the 'Dirty' album and shows it to me. I listened to it on his cd player and after that I loved the band. RIP Sonic Youth. 🤟
I first heard them on Ed Templeton's part in the skate video Welcome to Hell by Toy Machine Bloodsucking Skateboard Company. I bought a Goo cassette soon after. I love all their stuff; the Spinhead Sessions and the Destroyed Room B-sides and rarities compilation are personal favorites.
Sonic Youth was amazing! The separation of Kim and Thurston was sad and messy, but it's nobody's business. Oh, and Kim was the bassist, and Lee, the guitarist.
Loved them since '85.
With hindsight being 20/20, it now seems that this was inevitable. Not for nothing, but just cuz SY is “cooler” than Fleetwood Mac, and yes, maybe it took longer to disintegrate than did FM, but it boils down to the same issue: Human beings have egos and desires, and those egos cannot be denied or tamped down, no matter how much the nineties SEEMED like it was gonna be the “social justice” decade (huge bands like Nirvana and Pearl Jam saying and doing things in support of female empowerment, battling ticket brokers, etc etc), and we assumed people like Kim and Thurston were “above” petty jealousies and the normal marriage rigamarole...but they are not.
@@tuckercarlsonsmicropenis1283 That's a good explanation of why it sucked so much to hear about their divorce. Even when you try not to put people on a pedestal, sometimes you do. You don't realize it until something that messy happens.
Now that Mark E. Smith has passed away, and his legacy is essentially complete, I would love it if you would do a "rock N'Roll True Stories on one of Sonic Youth's biggest influences, THE FALL! There almost isn't a more important, yet overlooked and underrated band, than them. It's time to give the band their due respect. Thanks!
oui The FaLL
i can’t imagine tm Listening to them, the reSt of the banD yeS
@@tlysergicaciddiethylamide5792 Thurston has indeed said that he listens to The Fall and that he loves them. In a magazine interview, Thurston has even called The Fall's song "L.A." the greatest song about Los Angeles ever made.
I suppose nobody really knows what happens behind closed doors, but I felt gutted for Kim and honestly effed off at Thurlston. Its true marraiges fall apart but theres ways and means of ending them. Kim deserved better.
Yeah she's cool
Honestly I started seeing them live during this period.
I thought Kim came off as cold... not realising... as soon as the truth came out it was a real Ahaa. Moment
Bassist Lee Ranaldo?
While this is extremely misleading, Lee Ranaldo actually played bass on one Sonic Youth song: 'Protect Me You' from "Confusion is Sex" (1983) and Kim has played guitar on over 50 Sonic Youth songs (check Sonic Youth's website).
I met them at a restaurant before they broke up and Thurston was happy to take a picture with the staff and I remember Kim looking over like she wanted to kill everyone. Granted they were eating but in hindsight, it almost seems like he did it to spite Kim. don't know though, that's just the vibe.
Yeah, I got to go backstage during their Goo tour, and Kim was extremely standoffish.
Kim Gordon - Bass/Vocals
Lee Renaldo - Guitar/Vocals
Steve Shelley - Drums
Thurston Moore - Guitar/Vocals
Mark Ibold - Bass, in the later years.
@@akselbierman6288 had no idea! Thanks for the info!
@Eclanage Preservation Society we try to forget about that.
@@akselbierman6288 Before that
Jim O'Rourke - bass, guitar and synths
Kim was the bassist, Steve the drummer, then Thurston and Lee in guitar.
Kim, lee and Thurston sang.
Thurston predominantly being on the mic
Im from Western MA. Kim and Thurston had a house nearby and their kids went to a local school. SY played many charity gigs over the years in the area and I was blessed to see them many times in small venues..
You mean kid, they have one daughter
Sonic Youth was my first favorite band. Still in my top 3 and I remember the day I got Dirty on CD. It was my 13th birthday and my very first CD. After that I bought all their back catalogue. SY was a massive part of my teenage years.
Dudes....I felt like my parents were divorcing when they broke up. Like, "can't you stay together for us kids? Why Thurston? Kiiiiim!"
Same
Same!
That Lollapalooza show bill was amazing. A who's-who of the criminally underrated.
Not underrated. Just under-sold. Not acts with multi-platinum LPs.
Aww hearing what she wrote it sounded like she still loved him :(
Thurston Moore wanted Sonic Youth to carry on as it was?.. m8 how would that have worked
Well, in the "yeah, I screwed up but that doesn't mean I got to pay up, does it?".
I feel a bit of sympathy for him - not the first person that makes bad relationship decisions and has a massive loss to cope (personal, professional and probably financial). But not owning up to it and pretending "we can still be friends" rubs me the wrong way.
Japanese Strats are not cheap, I’ve had mine for 20 years, it’s a great guitar.
Anyone that was around in the 80's would tell you that tons of instruments from back then, especially from Japan were shunned and considered garbage at the time.. (even though a lot of them were truly great and well made instruments ironically). Of course, everybody has come to their senses by now, so naturally prices are skyrocketing at this point.
Yeah I don't think that guy really understood what he was talking about. Most likely they used cheap guitars guitars because you don't want to take expensive guitars on tour and you don't want to use a power drill on your American strat. They undoubtedly had at least some access to quality guitars for recording. I think he was just trying to lend some mother of invention mystique to the band's unique style.
American made guitars can be TRASH! Also, Prince’s favorite guitar was his cheap Japanese HS Anderson Madcat.... pretty sure he knew a good guitar when he touched one lol (and no it wasn’t a goddamn Hohner!)
Pretty sure he said weird japanese stratocaster copy which could be pretty much any brand, including the actually cheap brands. I didn't hear him say anything about a Fender Japan strat. I love japanese guitars but I know there are a ton that are actual trash.
@@ambientnoiseaddict A good friend of mine blames radiohead for stuff like this being expensive. I'm not sure about his logic but I don't mind blaming them lol
I was gonna keep my mouth shut, because I like you and it's been said about a hundred times here:
Kim Gordon being the bass player is kind of a big deal. Especially as you show a picture of her on stage , with a bass. Lee Reynaldo with a guitar.
Growing up in the 90s , Sonic Youth was massively influential. Part of that influence was Kim Gordon inspiring many chicks to grab a bass.
I think you have to backtrack this video or lose your credibility. Your fans are 90s kids. We lived this. Meeting our heroes wasn't even that hard back then because the radio didn't care about us or our bands.
Do better research man. Double check your sources, read the album liner notes.
I remember Superstar was played on the radio ever 30 mins back in summer '94.
The quotes by Michael Azerrad come from his book "Our Band Could Be Your Life" which profiles 13 punk and indie bands of the 1980's. It's a great book and is highly recommended.
Man did he nail it when talking about the trials of going through a divorce after a long marriage.. im experiencing this exact thing.. 28yrs together 20yrs married in my 40's,she is too,I think its a mid life crisis thing,but being seperated 1yr to the day
I saw sonic youth at the orpheum in Vancouver in the front row it was epic
Super jealous rn they're my fav band, you're very lucky!
Yeah great live band saw them in Manchester and London England and in around 1990 / 1995 ish
Kim Gordon was Sonic Youth's bassist.
Two of the best shows I ever saw: Sonic Youth & Die Kruezen @ the Roxy, Hollywood, Daydream Nation tour; Sonic Youth, Nirvana & STP (girl band from New York) @ Melody Ballroom, Portland, Goo tour. At the daydream nation tour, thurston & lee were sliding their guitars across the stage, string side down, complete cacophony of beautiful noise. Changed my life.
Thurston once played a show with GG Allin in the mid-1980s. That would have been a riot to see. Lots of feces, lots of blood.
Lots of sexual assaults, shit, and vomit.
J Mascis of Dinosaur Jr also played with GG Allin. Says it was the worst gig he ever did.
@@cactaceous is there any video J played with GG?
@@mildred78 I don’t believe so. He has told the story in many interviews I’ve seen.
I fucking love gg allin
Kim Gordon got a bad ass industrial album out of it though
I don't want to come back here next month and find out that J. Mascis is a famous drummer. Will I come back for the next video and find out Perry Farrel was the secret shredder we never knew about?
J Mascis actually IS a drummer. He played drums on a lot of the DJR studio stuff
All i care about is their music and they will never have the recognition they deserve.🤷♂️
@subcomandante marcos, last time, 4 years ago as a guest of a band wich they helped to get signed by Geffen and they probably will never be inducted because of the number of albums sold. You're not a fan so what am i doing here?
They are recognized by the people who count, I was fortunate enough to catch them in Amherst and shortly after that fortunate enough to catch nirvana at Springfield civic center, our little group has always been and always will until the end, hello hello hello, how low? Etc, not meant to discount what your saying, ive just always enjoyed the idea of our little group, it feels special ya know doesn't it?
They're pretty well recognized.
@@paranoidplane9799 ... by some people who were young 30 years ago.
@@ipiap I mean i'm 24 and even I recognize Daydream nation is one of the most influential albums of all time.
Was just listening to the eternal yesterday thinking "what a note to break up on" such a good album they need to reunite 😭
So glad they didn't end with that rubbish sonic nurse album. Stain.
@@mattharrison5068 boo, disagreed, sonic nurse had some bangers on it
@@tomahawk7546 glad someone liked it. Sounds like a sub par parody of themselves to me. Weak tuneless and phoned in.
@@mattharrison5068 Sonic Nurse was fantastic. Did we listen to the same album? Rather Ripped on the other hand while not terrible, was rather lacklustre overall
Dirty (1992) is, what I think one of the best Sonic Youth albums. I still listen to this album on a weekly base in my car. Happy days!
Lee played guitar, and Kim played bass, sorry that's a goof. It's true that Kim did play guitar sometimes, but usually she traded with Thurston, not her and Lee. Later they hired another bassist so Kim could concentrate on vocals on some songs. Lee never played bass, you correctly, but strangely contradict this with the quote from Gordon's memoir, where she clearly states Lee was on guitar, and the bass player referred to in the quote is this secondary bassist I referred to, Mark Ibold, who actually traded with Gordon on bass and 3rd guitar or they both played bass in parallel.
At 3:24 the bill brings up the Ohio rock band Brainiac. They were brilliant but their career ended suddenly and tragically. They are worth checking out if you find them to be worthy of your research. There is a documentary about them called "Brainiac: Transmissions After Zero" that's worth watching too.
Plus spawning other acts like Enon and Carribou. Was Skeleton Key related somehow too? Brainiac was fantastic - closest thing that reminds me of them now is Le Prince Harry
So sad... I'm glad I was there in the last tour.
They used to seem to be unbreakable. Sad ending to a great band!
their discography is so gorgeous
gawd these cartoon avatars styled like how we grew up criinge
@@hjillumi880 lawddd wtf r u on about
Up until around 93/94 Sonic youth was a band I had heard a lot about via my older brothers, other bands referencing them and occasionally see their names on flyers for shows and tshirts. I was 11 at that time and had never heard any of their songs until the soundtrack to Judgment night came out where they collaborated with Cypress hill on the song "I love you Mary Jane " . I was already a huge fan of Cypress hill and Mary Jane was the opening song on the soundtrack. I remember my eldest brother had just purchased the tape and he popped it in our dads car tape deck while we were leaving the mall and the song started with a distorted effect and our dad saying "This isn't a song! It's just noise, gibberish!" lol .Then the beat dropped and it blew me away. It was such a chill, unique sound that I immediately wanted to hear more from Sonic youth. Afterward I became a fan. The Judgement night soundtrack was such an amazing album, showing how to combine rap with grunge/rock right. It introduced me to so many great bands that I may not have given the chance to otherwise. I didn't really pay much attention to the personal lives of the bands back then but I remember thinking it was cool they were married. What a shame they are "done " I miss bands like SY.
“Ping pong expert Stephen Hawking”
Personally, I never really cared for them, but "100%" got me to buy 'Dirty' Always strange and oddly cool when a band you ain't hip to, to whatever degree, can still write one that you not only consider good, but a longtime favorite in your all-time/any category top... 35-50-ish. I have to give Sonic Youth credit for a song that played a memorable part, in the halcyon years of my late teens and early 20's. Of being a common wastrel and no-goodnik, happily unaware of the horrors that would unfold, once the responsibilities of life came crashing down "cleaving me in twain, like the sword of Damocles!!"
To go back to a time when my biggest fears were, getting busted by the cops while carrying a plastic photo-film bottle of Michigan skunk. Not that I was smart enough to worry about the legal aspect, but more about what my Parents would think, if they found out I was a pothead. To have such stupid little things to worry about at 50.
Love this little history you put here ❤
I've literally listened to "The Eternal" album hundreds of times. Loved this band. So sad for Kim, she is an amazing female👍💋
How? Everything after 1000 leaves is garbage by comparison to it and the preceeding albums
Ten years later and I'm still sad that Sonic Youth broke up
Should have taken a page from Fleetwood Mac and written an album of songs about the breakup and sold multi millions.
But Sonic Youth weren't talented so....things are as they are
Christopher Rowe Rather listen to Sonic Youth any day of the week ove Fleetwood Mac! Any single day!
Yeah...no. nobody cares about some 70 yr olds breaking up way after their prime lol
stee Ahh... the album that they made after Nicks & Buckingham broke up was their prime ( as far as record sales). One should never ignore history, it is to be learned from. My analogy is strong, when a couple is the driving force of a band and they break up the band can either break up as well, or make an album about it.
@@boataxe4605 I was talking about SY not Fleetwood mac
I love them so much. My 2nd fave band ever. Heartbreaking.
Thanks so much for doing a video on my favorite band of all time. Also, Lee Ranaldo is not and has never been the bassist in SY. He’s always been a guitarist. Kim alternates between bass and guitar
Please do more on SY
I remember the day this news broke. When I was about 13 years old, my own parents split up and I was jamming to goo and dirty a lot. But when I heard this news as a 34 year old, I was just as heartbroken as when my own parents divorced. 😢RIP SONIC YOUTH.
Let’s clear the air on the “line up” and their influence on main steam rock/grunge.
Classic Members are: Kim Gorden/bass and vocals, Thurston Moore/guitar and vocals, Lee Ranaldo/guitar, Steve Shelley/drums.
Not to beat you up on this but, you regurgitated information that sounds like you don’t know what you’re taking about. Not only was Sonic Youth very influential on the grunge scene, they were pioneers in the art of sound.
Side note: Kim Gorden (and Kira of Black Flag) really blazed the trail of girls on bass and in alternative rock in general (IMO).
what about Kim deal and Tina Weymouth
Female bassists? Believe it or not, there are many, as people are listing. Melissa Auf Der Maur of Hole & Smashing Pumpkins... Michael Steele of The Bangles... Jackie Fox of The Runaways... and the mother of them all... Suzie Quatro.
Fred Frith was doing the modified guitar thing in the 70s and Keith Rowe before him...
And John Cage with pianos, decades earlier.
Ok, cool. Thanks for listing what each member played. I'm doing a paper on Sonic Youth and don't know much about them. I was gonna look 'em up on Wiki, but now I don't have to. So, Lee is the bass player. Got it, thanks. That's the one I wasn't sure about, but I'm good now. Lee Ranaldo plays bass. Thanks.
That's the most poisonous level of truthfullness I've seen for a while!
To all the people complaining: he does these videos for us, and he’s human. If I had made 200-plus videos about rock bands and their histories, I’m sure there would be multiple mistakes. Enjoy the video or go make your own channel!
?, favorite sonic youth song....... " schizophrenia" is mine
I just started listening to them and Ive heard about 20 songs, my favorite right now is I dreamed I dream
Brother James, Madonna, Shawn, and Me, Shadow of a Doubt, Cotton Crown... they’ve got many good songs to say the least.
I love Silver Rocket, but they have so many great songs
Sonic Youth is one of my all time favorites, and they have influenced SO many bands.
I had front row once to see this band open up for Neil Young. I had a massive headache afterward....so did my two other buddies who were with me. Just saying...... Neil Young shredded though....
I saw a show, from the tour with Noel Young.
I felt Sonic Youth upstaged Neil Young.
Neil was just grinding through the gig, while Sonic Youth was amazing to behold.
Best music act I’ve ever seen.
Steve Shelly was not the first drummer that was Jim Sclavunos (later a bad seed for a time), than there was Bob Bert in Dead Vally 96 (the EP).later for the LP Bob Bert was replaced by Steve Shelly . The first album was the ep "Sonic Youth" i still remember it .
I miss them SOOO MUCH!!☹️
Love no wave .friggin sonic youth are students of the late composers Glenn branca.
Lee Ranaldo LEAD GUITAR, Kim, BASSIST!
Kim played bass, and 'the diamond sea' is in my top 5 favourite songs... listen to it
For sheer consistency, raw energy, & sonic-deconstruction, the three best live bands I've ever seen are Jesus Lizard, Sonic Youth, & Flaming Lips (Ronald Jones era). Now mind you, I used to see Jesus Lizard at Satyricon every time they came to Portland, so up close as fuck, but by the time I caught up to the other two, they were already playing large clubs & stadiums. Whenever Jesus Lizard sat at the bar to order drinks, I personally thanked David Yow, Duane Denison, David William Sims, & Mac McNeilly for the show. Like it was a house-party.
I've seen Sonic Youth in concert 5 times since 1992 (I was 15). They've never disappointed me, even as they got older. Its a shame it had to end.