@@MCAndyT She really is a gem. I’ve had the fortunate pleasure of hanging out with her a few times over the yrs, but unfortunately haven’t seen her in at least 10 yrs. Shes a sweetheart, and her playing and especially her voice are magical.
She can drink most dudes under the table & She can handle her dope a lot better than most junkies. Like her twin Sister! To my knowledge Kim never hit bottom with dope. It was the, "Drink." Believe me, I am not being critical. ( Al Jourgensen of, "Ministry" went to Rehab 33 times! He blew A LOT of F-ing Money on his appetite for Drugs: mainly Heroin, (Deso-Morphine), Methadone, Cocaine & Crack-Cocaine, & last, but not least; old-fashioned Ethyl Alcohol. The worst 😫 Drug ever made, except for, "Krocadil" & other obscure crazy Drugs. Alcohol is a systemic poison that damages everything in the human body, except for: finger, toe nails, body hair & head hair. The hair being immune to the damage caused by Ethyl Alcohol is in debate. I lost most of gMany female alcoholics are adamant in their opinion that states: Ethyl Alcohol is bad for hair, it causes hair to be dry & difficult to handle & it causes split ends. All of these are supposed claims. Alcohol is socially accepted, yet it causes more violent crimes & property damage than all illicit drugs combined. I spent eleven months at Guantanemo Naval Base where Alcohol is tax free. This was in '99-2000 & a six pack of Budweiser long neck bottles was $2.68. A fifth of Jack Daniel's was about $7 even. My point is, the U.S. Government makes a tremendous amount of money off of Alcohol via taxes & The Prison Industrial Complex. However, it is a ridiculous double standard. I know. I got off track. - B
The first drummer was actually Britt Walford, credited on the album, Pod, as Shannon Doughton. He was originally in the Louisville, Kentucky based band Slint and was introduced to Kim Deal by Steve Albini, who had recorded Slint's first album, Tweez, in 1989.
Jim wasn't a part of the band until 1992 btw This is a more accurate account of their lineup history from the early years: Original Lineup: Kim + Kelley 1988: Kim + Tanya Donelly Pod Demos: Guitar & Vocals: Kim + Tanya Drums: David Narcizo, Mickey Bones, and Carl Haarer Bass: Ray Halliday 1989: Josephine joins the band as the bassist. Britt Walford becomes the drummer (suggested by Steve Albini) 1992: Kelley joins Tanya leaves Britt leaves Jon Mattock? (Apparently breifly became their drummer in 1992) Jim MacPherson joins as new drummer Carrie Bradley was the violinist for the Pod Demos through to Last Splash and then rejoined for the 1996-1997 shows.
I think it’s important to mention Britt was in the band for the first two releases. Between Spiderland and Pod he shows incredible range as a drummer...
Its chemistry. Pixies was never the same without Kim Deal. So happy I saw the original Pixies line up. A bucket-list moment. ‘Do you love me now’ remains one of my favourite Breeders song.
Kim did some production work for Guided By Voices in the 90's as well. And The Pixies just aren't the same without her. Her bass and vocals on Doolittle are fantastic.
I love The Breeders and The Pixies. "Pod" is an incredible sounding album thanks to Albini production, high dynamic range, and great performances. I think all of their albums are good, but I feel like Title TK doesn't get enough love.
Glad everyone enjoyed this video. The Breeders have been on my to do list for a very very long time! I had also gotten some requests to do this band. As always throw your suggestions for future topics usin the google form in the description box of the video.
Liz Phair would be an interesting topic. Going from Rolling Stone's album of the year 1993 to infamously selling out 10 years later. Her upcoming album sounds like it might be a return to form.
Once I revisited the clue for today's video I can't believe I didn't guess it LOL... I always loved the Breeders and I still listen to the song Saints often "Summer is readyyyyy when you arrrre"
It's a shame how almost never The Kelley Deal 6000 is mentioned when the history of The Breeders is brought up, amazing band she created after rehab, they have two kickass albums, go check them out now: Go to the Sugar Altar and Boom! Boom! Boom! P..S.: The Amps' Pacer is one of my favorite and most cherished albums of all time (Elijah Wood loves it, too)
Yeah, I thought they were going to mention The Kelley Deal 6000 when they mentioned Kelley going to Minnesota for rehab. Boom! Boom! Boom! is an underrated masterpiece in my mind. I was at a Breeders show in Minneapolis in the mid-2000s where there were several people in the crowd yelling at them to play "Canyon" from Go to the Sugar Altar, and when the Breeders came back a few years later they indeed did have that on their playlist. The video also neglected to mention The Last Hard Men, however, I wasn't really expecting that to be mentioned.
I'm from Dayton and was working at a record store when all that stuff with Kelly went down. She came into the shop to pick up a few things she ordered right before she went to rehab... felt really bad for her, and all I could really do was wish her well. She's a nice lady.
I'm not from Dayton and only met Kim for a little while before an Amps show when she was just hanging out and chatting with fans, but she seemed like a really nice woman too.
Breeders for me. Songs like Istanbul, Don't Call Home, New Year, Forced to Drive, Nervous Mary display what a unique and brilliant songwriter Kim is. And i love her voice too
Pixies during their initial run was a magical moment in time, certainly, and their importance can _never_ be understated. But the Breeders - in _every_ configuration - are just a far more interesting and rewarding musical proposition, in my opinion. Both bands are excellent, of course, and it's not really a fair comparison - they're two very different groups. But given the choice, I'll always pick the Breeders.
Breeders wanted to be successful and went full radio imo. Cannonball is a total sell out song. I like Kim but I can’t compare breeders to the pixies. Especially the first 3 albums. To each their own not saying I’m right and your wrong
I saw them in Los Angeles a few years ago, touring on a new, pretty good album, and it was a really good show, despite Deal not being in the lineup. I saw them AGAIN two years ago, opening for Weezer on the more recent, shitty album. No fan engagement at all. They just drove through the set then left the stage. It would be great to see Deal back with that lineup. As an aside, I still find it odd that no one ever seems to hold her accountable for being a self-destructive mental case.
I saw the initial 2000's reunion tour at the Tsongas Arena. It wasn't that good then either..... Band laid out some amazing early albums.... when they came back it wasn't the same.
I did studio recording as a recording engineer with Kelley and her band in Minnesota then that led to a bunch of demo tracks with Kim that eventually became a single for the Mod Squad movie. It was a super interesting, creative, and challenging time for all of us. I miss them bunches.
POD has always been their masterpiece. I can listen to “Lime House” on repeat for an hour. I love how they kept working with Albini. Gil Norton sucked out the ethereal, eerie qualities the Pixies had on their first 2 releases
I saw The Breeders at the Nelsonville (Ohio) Music Festival in 2019. They were AWESOME! Wherever the Deal sisters decide is the band they're in is where I'll be in the crowd. True rock and role icons, both!
One of my all time favourite bands, so yeah gonna be choosing The Breeders! Their cover of "I can't help it - if i'm still in love with you" is simply amazingly raw and beautiful.
About 10 years ago a band I was in was in NYC to play at CMJ. When we got back to the place we were staying at we decided to haul our gear inside. I was carrying my bandmate's big-ass bass fiddle when I felt someone tap me on the shoulder and I heard someone say, "need some help?" I turned around and lo and behold, it was Kelly Deal! 😂
I was in high school during The Breeders' initial run, and I had a friend who was a harccore Breeders fan. She played some of their stuff for me on a field trip and I remember not being overly taken with them. However, as the years progressed and my musical tastes got more sophisticated, I came to appreciate them.
I saw the Breeders around 2001 and I remember Kim getting on stage, "I'm on a lot of vicodin". They played a great show. Take care of your self Kim. Cheers!
Kelly and her band R ring were really nice to a local band I knew called Quailbones and did a 7” split with them but the singer in Quailbones was tragically killed in a car wreck.
Heroin ruins lives no more than sex does for a sex addict. Or money for a thief. I used heroin daily for 15 years i came out fine. Only police charge i ever got was for attempted murder because i tried to kill a child molester. I was never arrested for drugs i never hit my girl i never cheated. I just used heroin and cocaine alot. When it was time i stopped. Heroin is no different than any other hang up. Im not suggesting people try it. Its a very hard lifestyle to maintain and everthing becomes 2nd to the drug. But people have done incredible things on drugs including some of the smartest inventors who ever lived.
@@jimh8422 My comment was satirical...this one is just dangerous. In the immortal words of South Park Elementary School's Mr. Mackey, "don't do drugs kids, mmmmkay, drugs are bad, mkay."
True. While at the same time releasing some of the greatest music ever, going back to old-school blues and Duke Ellington to the Stones and punk to 90s alt-rock. A very mixed-bag. Speaking from experience, I advice against it. No matter what creative-doors it opens it is NOT WORTH THE PRICE.
@@jimh8422 It’s true, you never hear about all the functioning-addicts who somehow managed to do it, not without problems, but without ruining their lives for extended periods. I wish I can say I was that. My experiences between 1998-2016, going on it and off it like a yo-yo, set me way back. No arrests though, amazingly, but plenty of other horrid shit I’d just as soon forget. If you can handle it, more power to you. I couldn’t handle it, finally stopped, been playing catch-up ever since. As a musician an artist I’m still haunted by it in my dreams. I don’t know if I’m more susceptible as a musician, but some people believe that, though it hits people in ALL walks-of-life. I’m 46 now so I just can’t abuse myself living the rock n roll-life (in its most cliche’d meaning) anymore. Never thought I’d get here but I’d rather be here than dead-before-my-time or in jail. Too many talented people have been destroyed by it. But like you said, one can just as easily be destroyed by other things, like greed and gluttony for anything, no doubt.
Saw the Pixies in ‘87 at a club on Long Island just before they broke big. Only like 10 people in attendance but they played their hearts out. Fast forward about 20 years to what I guess amounted to a reunion show in a stadium. The tension onstage was palpable. Obvs Black Francis wanted them to adopt a silent, distant demeanor, no intro or chatter between songs, just launched right into it. After a few songs, Kim broke the silence and said, “How’s everyone doing?” Crowd cheered as BF shot death glares at her. I don’t know if it was the infighting, their age, or a venue not suited to them, but they seemed to be phoning it in and it felt like we were seeing a really competent Pixies cover band. But, shit man, the greatest bands seem to result from X factor alchemy, and it’s hard to touch those first couple of Pixies records for raw verve and genius. Lightning in a bottle.
Saw the Breeders opening for Nirvana on the _In Utero_ tour. As excited as I was for my first (and only) Nirvana concert, I went home that night still talking about the Breeders show.
Great video, thanks for doing this, as I'm a Breeders over Pixes fan all the way. One thing, though: the orignal drummer was Britt Walford of Slint--Jim didn't come until after the first record.
Man I so glad I was 18 in 1990 and set off to college and the music in the next 4 years rivals anytime in the history of music.I still haven't played all the songs I want to on guitar and I'm 49!!
produced by albini, walford on drums... it doesn´t really get much better than that... britt is just a human metronome and he´s perfectly adaptive, simple, complicated, whatever fits the song he never misses a beat and seems to be a cool dood... I don´t idolize a lot of people but if I met him in the streets I´d turn into a jittery nervous fanboy
@@coreyabell6332 the joke is that Pixies had one Deal sister (thus one deal, one "promise" or "great thing" I suppose), while the Breeders has two Deal sister (thus two "great things" about the band or something like that). Hope you understood
I love every album of The Breeders! For me each one is a different trip and I just can't find any flaws. It never seemed pretensious or anything, each one is just perfection!
I was never really into a lot of grunge stuff back in the day, but for some reason I really loved The Breeders. I honestly think their albums have gotten better over the years. I hope they put something else out soon.
F***ing love The Breeders. Love Kim and Kelley. Loved the Pixies as well. The Amps album. Can relate to them, and have been inspired by the music since the beginning.
Got the album and saw them for that tour as well, my first chance to go see kim deal, though my girlfriend had seen her in pixies, and it was fantastic, we had a great time they were just awesome. A lot of people knocking the pixies here without her, but i love frank black as well, and the new pixies stuff, just think he should've retired the name, as it's just not the same, for many reasons. Frank is a little old for screaming out teen angst style stuff, and beyond the lack of kim it also doesn't stick to the old formula so much, of fast slow loud quiet, it just seems a bit more of a continuation of his solo work
Wow, thank you for mentioning Throwing Muses. I had forgotten all about them. I remembered when I was young and working at a music store, we played The Real Ramona album over and over every day for the entire year of release.
@@rnrtruestories keep them coming I tune in even if I dislike the band. I absolutely LOVED PIXES & THE BREEDERS! Saw Pixies with Weezer in 18. IT WAS AMAZABALLZ!
@@rnrtruestories some suggestions Vinnie Vincent and his sacking from kiss for deplorable behaviour. The Misfits getting put in jail in London. Varg vikerness/count grishnack/burzum. Foo fighters million dollar demos. Dave mustaine getting booted from metallica. Danzig getting knocked out backstage. Ozzy bitting the head of the dove at his record deal meeting. Mick mares health issues.
I LOVE Kim, she's an icon, I've been fortunate enough to meet her on several occasions and sees always been nice (my ex fiancee was childhood friends with Nate who played guitar in the Amps and GBV). Frank Black is/has always been a difficult personality from everyone around him, nice guy, but difficult personality... I could always see why him and Kim bumped heads. I miss Kim in the Pixies (great to see Paz up there though, totally love her). You should do a video on that awesome Dayton Ohio rock scene, with bands like Guided by Voices, The Amps, etc...... Or on Atlanta's scene, lots of awesome late 90's/early 2000's acts came from there too. Oh, and it came up in a conversation amongst friends of mine, whatever happened to that Howie Day guy? He was like indie/pop rock, but was huge in the College scene early 2K's
Classical tale of drugs'n'roll, weird thing is Kim and Kelley made it through and rediscovered their creativity. Here's to another few decades of Deals
I've seen the Pixies twice with Kim and twice with Paz, as well as Throwing Muses, Breeders and Bellly in the 90s. All great line ups, but nothing compares to the ground breaking influence that the early Pixies had on the whole alternative scene. And Kurt was right, Gigantic was their best song!
It is hard for me to choose between the Pixies, The Breeders and Frank Black's first two albums. But I can tell you on occasion I find myself in tears when Kim is singing. Her voice is so beautiful and pure, I just get touched. So maybe that is my answer, also because I do not really like the rebooted Pixies without Kim. "Title TK" is an unknown gem, and "All Nerve" is nothing new but really enjoyable nevertheless.
Pixies suffer without Kim. But I think she was more powerful as a foil to Black Francis. It was tragic he saw her emergence through jealous eyes and really should have accommodated her talent within the band. Their loss, but I suppose you can't have two leaders in a band. Not that she wanted that, even.
I picked up Last Splash at a thrift store recently, man I had forgotten how much that album kicks ass! The whole thing is really a balls-out 90s rock record! Love it!
Always been Pixies over Breeders, as I feel they have a wider array of great music. But they never did seem quite the same after Kim's departure. Happy she made good stuff out of her leave; some of those songs on Last Splash are good like Divine Hammer and No Aloha. Also, just checked out some of Frank Black's solo stuff for the first time. I Burn Today is a really great song.
Great video as always. Do you think you can do one someday about the craziness around Ian Watkins and the Lost Prophets? I feel not many people know about how that ended up.
It's sooooooo fucked up, though. Gonna need a pretty clear disclaimer at the beginning of the video (if it's done). Hearing all that shit they did will really mess with your head.
It was interesting seeing all these bands of the early to mid 90s try to find their place in the late 90s and beyond. From Garbage to Soundgarden, so many floundered. The musical landscape had changed so much, as had the technology for distribution. It's almost like everyone had to "grow up" in the late 90s (and by grow up I think I mean adapt).
Loved the Breeders from Pod on. Honestly heard them before the Pixies. Really tried to like the Pixies, but Kim spoiled me for something better. Last time I saw her and Kelly in NYC, Kim handed me her pick after the show. Treasure!
I saw both bands play live. With Kim. I would say I enjoyed Pixies live a lot more than the Breeders. They're clearly the more solid band. But they were never the same without her. The Breeders albums are overall consistently better than the Pixies albums, witch to me were not always amazing. The best Pixies albums are definitely the ones Kim was in. Including "Indie City".
Saw Pixies first time thru at Staches in Col. OH. Liked the first l.p. and ep. But; great live. Didn't see the Breeders tho, which is odd because I went to shows a couple times a week. Seems like they would come by and play with Scrawl or Great Plains.
From the very first time I heard the Beatles' "Happiness is a Warm Gun," I felt that it was really a 1990s alternative song before it's time. I always imagined Soundgarden doing it though. Surprised now to find out Kim and the Breeders did it, but not at all disappointed.
It's cool to see all the Deal Twins fans out there. Yes ...they are still making great music and touring before the virus hit. Back with the original Last Splash lineup and better than ever. Both Kim and Kelley are ROCK legends in their own right. I personally, can't wait for them to leave Dayton and head back out into the world. The earth is better with the Deal Twins around.
The Pixies were an awesome, awesome band. The Breeders mop the floor with the Pixies. Mountain Battles being the best album of all times, next to In Utero.
Saw them perform at an empty pool in Brooklyn like 10 years ago, okay show - crowd woke up during Cannonball and it went pretty wild. When you have a hit, you have a hit.
They once came up from Dayton,to Piqua Oh. one Friday night,for "Cruise" night!!! (That was a HUGE Thing each weekend,where high-school kids would drive around the downtown area just "cruising" in the mid-80's. Anyway,this was before they became musically famous.
Gotta be honest, this wasn't just Kim's other band but being treated as such is what killed it. Tanya Donnelly was just as big at the time, just as important to it's formation, Throwing Muses was also a 4AD band...
The Pixies were great . Each member brought something unique and irreplaceable . A classic 'More than the sum of its parts' scenario . Pilgrim , Surfer Rosa and Doolittle are flawless works . If Black Francis had looked like Kurt Cobain they would have been huge . Image counts , alas. The Breeders , and Kim as a songwriter , were never in the same league , although they do have a few great songs (Cannonball , Safari ) .
Ugh, I want that Safari ep of theirs so bad. I’ve been looking for it almost 20 years. It’s almost impossible to find nowadays though. It’s been out of print since the mid-90s, and is exceedingly rare. Such a cool little record. The title track especially.
You skipped over how when she got back with the pixies for a short bit during the first reunion tour, she wrote their hit that got major radio play on KROQ. It was called “Bang Thwok”. Then she left or got kicked out again depending on the story. The Pixies hired another “Kim”, Shattuck, from The Muffs. They soon kicked her out too. Seems Frank Black has more of the ego than Kim. The fact “Last Splash” beat out all sales of Pixies and Black’s solo stuff COMBINED! says a lot.
@@ranica47 I've seen plenty of accounts like that about Kim around the final years of the Pixies. Apparently their manager at the time wanted to fire her due to her tardiness and being unable to keep in time with the rest of the band but the the group stood up for her.
@@casucasueq4479 though I know its their least favorite album I have a deep and very real love of Hit and Run Holiday. But Who killed the cock Robin? I killed the cock Robin. I shot the sparrow with my bow and arrow, I drink it's blood. Has got to be in the top five lines of their catalog of music.
'bullied' is an awfully strong (and wrong) word to describe their relationship. They were two strong-willed people with their own visions and egos. I don't think there is any evidenced he bullied her as much as she didn't get her way nearly enough and so she decided to do her own thing.
Oh wow, really? I am so happy you're here to school me 'professor'? He threw his guitar at her on stage. He ranted on about how he wanted to kill her. And before you get into historical Pixes facts, I really do not care what you think, so keep it to yourself. That means, don't respond and we can just go our separate merry ways.
@@stevenhaas9622 you're one of those that worships rockstars and defends them when they do wrong. Just because somebody is strong willed and fights back doesn't mean they weren't initially bullied. His behaviour was being a bully, but seeing as you feel the need to defend a relationship that you have no idea about and because you are so enanoured by Charles Francis, you will be an egghead and throw definitions around like an annoying nerd. If I knew you, I would throw my guitar at you. Are you beginning to see how bullying works or am I your new rockstar you need to defend?
Here's my video on Pixies th-cam.com/video/WfkmimIdyGE/w-d-xo.html
Pod is such a great record - Albini recorded it and Britt Walford played drums on it . I think it’s a classic .
I like Kim no matter what she’s doing. She’s wonderful at everything she does.
I had no idea how amazing she was as a person until I heard her interview on Mark Maron. She's a real gem!
@@MCAndyT She really is a gem. I’ve had the fortunate pleasure of hanging out with her a few times over the yrs, but unfortunately haven’t seen her in at least 10 yrs. Shes a sweetheart, and her playing and especially her voice are magical.
ive had a crush on her for like 20 years now
She can drink most dudes under the table & She can handle her dope a lot better than most junkies. Like her twin Sister! To my knowledge Kim never hit bottom with dope. It was the, "Drink." Believe me, I am not being critical. ( Al Jourgensen of, "Ministry"
went to Rehab 33 times! He blew A LOT of F-ing Money on his appetite for Drugs: mainly Heroin, (Deso-Morphine), Methadone, Cocaine & Crack-Cocaine, & last, but not least; old-fashioned Ethyl Alcohol. The worst 😫 Drug ever made, except for, "Krocadil" & other obscure crazy Drugs. Alcohol is a systemic poison that damages everything in the human body, except for: finger, toe nails, body hair & head hair. The hair being immune to the damage caused by Ethyl Alcohol is in debate. I lost most of gMany female alcoholics are adamant in their opinion that states: Ethyl Alcohol is bad for hair, it causes hair to be dry & difficult to handle & it causes split ends. All of these are supposed claims. Alcohol is socially accepted, yet it causes more violent crimes & property damage than all illicit drugs combined. I spent eleven months at Guantanemo Naval Base where Alcohol is tax free. This was in '99-2000 & a six pack of Budweiser long neck bottles was $2.68.
A fifth of Jack Daniel's was about $7 even.
My point is, the U.S. Government makes a tremendous amount of money off of Alcohol via taxes & The Prison Industrial Complex. However, it is a ridiculous double standard. I know. I got off track. - B
Especially heroin.
It's pretty amazing how the Pixies & Throwing Muses gave us Breeder & Belly as well. Two amazing bands became four.
The first drummer was actually Britt Walford, credited on the album, Pod, as Shannon Doughton. He was originally in the Louisville, Kentucky based band Slint and was introduced to Kim Deal by Steve Albini, who had recorded Slint's first album, Tweez, in 1989.
He was also credited on Safari, I recall, as “Mike Hunt”.
@Gilson Dee I'm also from Louisville as well and Slint are local legends in the scene here
@Gilson Dee or like follow the band or something
Britt Walford? Don't get me wrong, he's a nice guy, I like him just fine. But he's a mouthbreather.
@@paidgovernmentshill_6950 Britt's the shyt, eat some.
Jim wasn't a part of the band until 1992 btw
This is a more accurate account of their lineup history from the early years:
Original Lineup:
Kim + Kelley
1988:
Kim + Tanya Donelly
Pod Demos:
Guitar & Vocals: Kim + Tanya
Drums: David Narcizo, Mickey Bones, and Carl Haarer
Bass: Ray Halliday
1989:
Josephine joins the band as the bassist.
Britt Walford becomes the drummer (suggested by Steve Albini)
1992:
Kelley joins
Tanya leaves
Britt leaves
Jon Mattock? (Apparently breifly became their drummer in 1992)
Jim MacPherson joins as new drummer
Carrie Bradley was the violinist for the Pod Demos through to Last Splash and then rejoined for the 1996-1997 shows.
Came here to mention Britt. Didn't know the demo lineups though!
Mike Hunt was the best drummer.
I think it’s important to mention Britt was in the band for the first two releases. Between Spiderland and Pod he shows incredible range as a drummer...
Its chemistry. Pixies was never the same without Kim Deal. So happy I saw the original Pixies line up. A bucket-list moment. ‘Do you love me now’ remains one of my favourite Breeders song.
"Do You Love Me Now" is such a powerfully beautiful song. Still listen to it regularly and it strikes me every time.
Kim did some production work for Guided By Voices in the 90's as well. And The Pixies just aren't the same without her. Her bass and vocals on Doolittle are fantastic.
Oh man, where’s our Pollard/Deal collab? Guided by Breeders?
Guided by Voices or fantastic
she also produced Internationale EP by Brainiac in 1995, which is so good
I love The Breeders and The Pixies. "Pod" is an incredible sounding album thanks to Albini production, high dynamic range, and great performances. I think all of their albums are good, but I feel like Title TK doesn't get enough love.
Title TK is incredible!
When it comes to the pixies no Kim then no Deal. Breeders all nerve is so good.
I love that album!!!
I fully agree on both points.
Hmm, but I like contemporary Pixies.
Yep. Have had the chance to see them over the past 4 years or so, but there was no Deal
This may be blasphemous, but I like all nerve more than last splash.. I love them both, but all is nerve is musically better, to me, at least.
Glad everyone enjoyed this video. The Breeders have been on my to do list for a very very long time! I had also gotten some requests to do this band. As always throw your suggestions for future topics usin the google form in the description box of the video.
@@sstaners1234 the 3rd one
Liz Phair would be an interesting topic. Going from Rolling Stone's album of the year 1993 to infamously selling out 10 years later.
Her upcoming album sounds like it might be a return to form.
They toured a few years ago? Right??
Once I revisited the clue for today's video I can't believe I didn't guess it LOL...
I always loved the Breeders and I still listen to the song Saints often
"Summer is readyyyyy when you arrrre"
BIG STAR. TOO OLD FOR FANS?
It's a shame how almost never The Kelley Deal 6000 is mentioned when the history of The Breeders is brought up, amazing band she created after rehab, they have two kickass albums, go check them out now: Go to the Sugar Altar and Boom! Boom! Boom!
P..S.: The Amps' Pacer is one of my favorite and most cherished albums of all time (Elijah Wood loves it, too)
Yeah, I thought they were going to mention The Kelley Deal 6000 when they mentioned Kelley going to Minnesota for rehab. Boom! Boom! Boom! is an underrated masterpiece in my mind. I was at a Breeders show in Minneapolis in the mid-2000s where there were several people in the crowd yelling at them to play "Canyon" from Go to the Sugar Altar, and when the Breeders came back a few years later they indeed did have that on their playlist.
The video also neglected to mention The Last Hard Men, however, I wasn't really expecting that to be mentioned.
I'm from Dayton and was working at a record store when all that stuff with Kelly went down. She came into the shop to pick up a few things she ordered right before she went to rehab... felt really bad for her, and all I could really do was wish her well. She's a nice lady.
I'm not from Dayton and only met Kim for a little while before an Amps show when she was just hanging out and chatting with fans, but she seemed like a really nice woman too.
Hear hear! and more Kim & Kelley performances and antics here:
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Breeders for me. Songs like Istanbul, Don't Call Home, New Year, Forced to Drive, Nervous Mary display what a unique and brilliant songwriter Kim is. And i love her voice too
Pixies during their initial run was a magical moment in time, certainly, and their importance can _never_ be understated. But the Breeders - in _every_ configuration - are just a far more interesting and rewarding musical proposition, in my opinion.
Both bands are excellent, of course, and it's not really a fair comparison - they're two very different groups. But given the choice, I'll always pick the Breeders.
And she said "amen'. The Deal sisters are the real deal. 🤟🏼🤟🏼
Frank Black’s solo albums are great as well
@@BungleGrindClown Oh, absolutely. _Teenager of the Year,_ in particular. And the first LP with The Catholics!
Breeders wanted to be successful and went full radio imo. Cannonball is a total sell out song. I like Kim but I can’t compare breeders to the pixies. Especially the first 3 albums. To each their own not saying I’m right and your wrong
How can The Breeders be "far more interesting" when Pixies invented the genre? Nonsense.
Damn, that's a tough choice. I'm just glad to hear Kim and her sister are both sober. We've lost too many people from that time period aleady
Their appearance on Tiny Desk Concerts is not to be missed!!!
I saw the Pixies 2 years ago. They were great but I always wished I could have seen them with Ms. Deal.
Yeah, not the same at all.
Diehl
Yeah same here. It's not the same without her.
I saw them in Los Angeles a few years ago, touring on a new, pretty good album, and it was a really good show, despite Deal not being in the lineup. I saw them AGAIN two years ago, opening for Weezer on the more recent, shitty album. No fan engagement at all. They just drove through the set then left the stage.
It would be great to see Deal back with that lineup. As an aside, I still find it odd that no one ever seems to hold her accountable for being a self-destructive mental case.
I saw the initial 2000's reunion tour at the Tsongas Arena. It wasn't that good then either.....
Band laid out some amazing early albums.... when they came back it wasn't the same.
Saw The Breeders twice on their most recent tour (2018-2019). They are INCREDIBLE live!!
I did studio recording as a recording engineer with Kelley and her band in Minnesota then that led to a bunch of demo tracks with Kim that eventually became a single for the Mod Squad movie. It was a super interesting, creative, and challenging time for all of us. I miss them bunches.
I would kill to hear those demos tracks aha
Saw them in Montreal in the late 80's in a small club. She smoked, player bass and sang at the same time. I was in love!
i just prefer Kim Deal
title tk is a true gem
It's a three-way tie between Pod, Pacer and Title TK for me.
POD has always been their masterpiece. I can listen to “Lime House” on repeat for an hour. I love how they kept working with Albini. Gil Norton sucked out the ethereal, eerie qualities the Pixies had on their first 2 releases
I saw The Breeders at the Nelsonville (Ohio) Music Festival in 2019. They were AWESOME! Wherever the Deal sisters decide is the band they're in is where I'll be in the crowd. True rock and role icons, both!
I met her when she was in The Amps, in a small bar gig in Christiania, in Copenhagen, in 1995. Nice person.
I met her in a bar in New York City in the summer of 1996. Very cool and down-to-earth
They all seem like chill people
I met both Kelly and Kim, just before seeing them at the Koko in Camden. They were looking at things in the market. Both were very chilled out.
Yeah met Kim and Kelly at a festival and literally could not have been any nicer
I feel like Kim could be anyone’s friend. I know I would.
One of my all time favourite bands, so yeah gonna be choosing The Breeders! Their cover of "I can't help it - if i'm still in love with you" is simply amazingly raw and beautiful.
fun interviews w/ Kelley & Kim are on my channel: th-cam.com/video/kyUkWbWQCLw/w-d-xo.html
I saw the Breeders. TWICE.
First at the Nirvana show in '93, then at Lollapalooza '94.
Thank you Kurt, for introducing me to one of many of my favorite bands...
About 10 years ago a band I was in was in NYC to play at CMJ. When we got back to the place we were staying at we decided to haul our gear inside. I was carrying my bandmate's big-ass bass fiddle when I felt someone tap me on the shoulder and I heard someone say, "need some help?" I turned around and lo and behold, it was Kelly Deal! 😂
oof
Even in the 90s, I thought Cannonball was the quintessential 90s rock song.
Didn't get much better!
You must've been living in a cave.
LOL
It was not.
Black Hole Sun
I was in high school during The Breeders' initial run, and I had a friend who was a harccore Breeders fan. She played some of their stuff for me on a field trip and I remember not being overly taken with them. However, as the years progressed and my musical tastes got more sophisticated, I came to appreciate them.
I saw the Breeders around 2001 and I remember Kim getting on stage, "I'm on a lot of vicodin". They played a great show. Take care of your self Kim. Cheers!
They still exist, and have been releasing material over the years, with the latest one being in 2018.
and so happy to hear the Deals quit using junk :)
Nothing happened to them. They still making music and rule!
Kelly and her band R ring were really nice to a local band I knew called Quailbones and did a 7” split with them but the singer in Quailbones was tragically killed in a car wreck.
Love R.Ring! I'll check out Quailbones.
Dear channel lol can you please do a video on THE SLITS!!!
Heroin: Ruining musician's lives since 1898
Heroin ruins lives no more than sex does for a sex addict. Or money for a thief. I used heroin daily for 15 years i came out fine. Only police charge i ever got was for attempted murder because i tried to kill a child molester. I was never arrested for drugs i never hit my girl i never cheated. I just used heroin and cocaine alot. When it was time i stopped. Heroin is no different than any other hang up. Im not suggesting people try it. Its a very hard lifestyle to maintain and everthing becomes 2nd to the drug. But people have done incredible things on drugs including some of the smartest inventors who ever lived.
@@jimh8422 My comment was satirical...this one is just dangerous. In the immortal words of South Park Elementary School's Mr. Mackey, "don't do drugs kids, mmmmkay, drugs are bad, mkay."
True. While at the same time releasing some of the greatest music ever, going back to old-school blues and Duke Ellington to the Stones and punk to 90s alt-rock. A very mixed-bag. Speaking from experience, I advice against it. No matter what creative-doors it opens it is NOT WORTH THE PRICE.
@@jimh8422 It’s true, you never hear about all the functioning-addicts who somehow managed to do it, not without problems, but without ruining their lives for extended periods. I wish I can say I was that. My experiences between 1998-2016, going on it and off it like a yo-yo, set me way back. No arrests though, amazingly, but plenty of other horrid shit I’d just as soon forget. If you can handle it, more power to you. I couldn’t handle it, finally stopped, been playing catch-up ever since. As a musician an artist I’m still haunted by it in my dreams. I don’t know if I’m more susceptible as a musician, but some people believe that, though it hits people in ALL walks-of-life. I’m 46 now so I just can’t abuse myself living the rock n roll-life (in its most cliche’d meaning) anymore. Never thought I’d get here but I’d rather be here than dead-before-my-time or in jail. Too many talented people have been destroyed by it. But like you said, one can just as easily be destroyed by other things, like greed and gluttony for anything, no doubt.
@@jimh8422 nothing good comes from drugs, actually these people would have better careers without them.
Saw the Pixies in ‘87 at a club on Long Island just before they broke big. Only like 10 people in attendance but they played their hearts out. Fast forward about 20 years to what I guess amounted to a reunion show in a stadium. The tension onstage was palpable. Obvs Black Francis wanted them to adopt a silent, distant demeanor, no intro or chatter between songs, just launched right into it. After a few songs, Kim broke the silence and said, “How’s everyone doing?” Crowd cheered as BF shot death glares at her. I don’t know if it was the infighting, their age, or a venue not suited to them, but they seemed to be phoning it in and it felt like we were seeing a really competent Pixies cover band. But, shit man, the greatest bands seem to result from X factor alchemy, and it’s hard to touch those first couple of Pixies records for raw verve and genius. Lightning in a bottle.
Holy shit, I never knew about the Belly connection. Ya learned me something again.
There’s an interesting link between Keith Flint from The Prodigy and Kim Deal, too.
me neither!
Kim even played guitar on some of the demos for Star. th-cam.com/video/z9AHaZt5OqU/w-d-xo.html
Saw them in 2019. Awesome show. Also, the solo stuff the sisters have done over the last few years is great.
Saw the Breeders opening for Nirvana on the _In Utero_ tour. As excited as I was for my first (and only) Nirvana concert, I went home that night still talking about the Breeders show.
the new albums amazing and if you wanna support them buy it thats that.
Best Beatles cover ever!
Great video, thanks for doing this, as I'm a Breeders over Pixes fan all the way. One thing, though: the orignal drummer was Britt Walford of Slint--Jim didn't come until after the first record.
Kim deal as an artist. Steve Albini is a GENUIS
Steve Albini is a no talent turd.
@@franksmith4277 Funny that, he’s produced some of the Best alternative albums ever. Not bad for a no talented turd eh. 😂
When is a video on Albini coming? Long,long overdue
Jésus est, your turds must be sweet.
Man I so glad I was 18 in 1990 and set off to college and the music in the next 4 years rivals anytime in the history of music.I still haven't played all the songs I want to on guitar and I'm 49!!
The were kind of a big Deal.
Breeders are way better than the Pixies
Ouch....
I see what you did there
@@BunnymanVids
In what way could that possibly be true
Were “The” ?
Britt Walford was the drummer on the first breeders album, Pod.
produced by albini, walford on drums... it doesn´t really get much better than that... britt is just a human metronome and he´s perfectly adaptive, simple, complicated, whatever fits the song he never misses a beat and seems to be a cool dood... I don´t idolize a lot of people but if I met him in the streets I´d turn into a jittery nervous fanboy
Thought he might have mentioned the Slint connection, but nup.
And Safari EP.
I got to see them play a free concert in Dayton (my home town as well) back in September of 2019. Great concert!
Easy answer. The Breeders. Pixies, one Deal. Breeders ...two Deals. Winner.
I don’t get it
@@coreyabell6332 the joke is that Pixies had one Deal sister (thus one deal, one "promise" or "great thing" I suppose), while the Breeders has two Deal sister (thus two "great things" about the band or something like that). Hope you understood
She then started the Amps and I adore the album they made.
great album, some really nice songs on it
I love every album of The Breeders! For me each one is a different trip and I just can't find any flaws. It never seemed pretensious or anything, each one is just perfection!
I saw them at lollapalooza '94. That was a killer show. I saw most of my favorite bands all in one day.
Saw the breeders a couple of years ago in the UK, Kim deal is such a fox 😍😍😍
You must mean the history of The Breeders,because I met them while they were touring in 2008 and late 2017,so they're still active and release albums.
They went looking for "One Divine Hammer":-)
Underrated comment.
I was never really into a lot of grunge stuff back in the day, but for some reason I really loved The Breeders. I honestly think their albums have gotten better over the years. I hope they put something else out soon.
I was totally into the grunge stuff in the 90s, but I got over it. I never got over Kim Deal's music, though, Breeders or Amps or Pixies.
F***ing love The Breeders. Love Kim and Kelley. Loved the Pixies as well. The Amps album. Can relate to them, and have been inspired by the music since the beginning.
All Nerve is a great album.
I agree it’s as good as anything they’ve ever done saw them on the tour for that record they looked and sounded great
Got the album and saw them for that tour as well, my first chance to go see kim deal, though my girlfriend had seen her in pixies, and it was fantastic, we had a great time they were just awesome. A lot of people knocking the pixies here without her, but i love frank black as well, and the new pixies stuff, just think he should've retired the name, as it's just not the same, for many reasons. Frank is a little old for screaming out teen angst style stuff, and beyond the lack of kim it also doesn't stick to the old formula so much, of fast slow loud quiet, it just seems a bit more of a continuation of his solo work
Wow, thank you for mentioning Throwing Muses. I had forgotten all about them. I remembered when I was young and working at a music store, we played The Real Ramona album over and over every day for the entire year of release.
LOVE both the Pixies & the Breeders!!! Cannonball is one kick ass 90s alt rock tune!!
Love how you dig deeper then mainstream music! Why I follow this page. I get history on bands I know/don't know. The Music Nerd in me Thanks You! 🤘🎸🎶
They weren't underground, they simply had no good songs and no one liked them. The corporate rock industry tried their best to promote them.
thanks. We've got some great stories coming up!
@@TheBigMclargehuge i politely disagree....lots of great songs and were great live....just my opinion
@@rnrtruestories keep them coming I tune in even if I dislike the band. I absolutely LOVED PIXES & THE BREEDERS! Saw Pixies with Weezer in 18. IT WAS AMAZABALLZ!
@@rnrtruestories some suggestions
Vinnie Vincent and his sacking from kiss for deplorable behaviour.
The Misfits getting put in jail in London.
Varg vikerness/count grishnack/burzum.
Foo fighters million dollar demos.
Dave mustaine getting booted from metallica.
Danzig getting knocked out backstage.
Ozzy bitting the head of the dove at his record deal meeting.
Mick mares health issues.
I LOVE Kim, she's an icon, I've been fortunate enough to meet her on several occasions and sees always been nice (my ex fiancee was childhood friends with Nate who played guitar in the Amps and GBV). Frank Black is/has always been a difficult personality from everyone around him, nice guy, but difficult personality... I could always see why him and Kim bumped heads. I miss Kim in the Pixies (great to see Paz up there though, totally love her).
You should do a video on that awesome Dayton Ohio rock scene, with bands like Guided by Voices, The Amps, etc...... Or on Atlanta's scene, lots of awesome late 90's/early 2000's acts came from there too.
Oh, and it came up in a conversation amongst friends of mine, whatever happened to that Howie Day guy? He was like indie/pop rock, but was huge in the College scene early 2K's
I like both. I saw the Breeders at Lollapalooza 94 at Charlestown Race track in West Virginia.
Another great video! Side note, I really wish people would stop call Albini a producer. He is very vocally an engineer, not a producer.
Classical tale of drugs'n'roll, weird thing is Kim and Kelley made it through and rediscovered their creativity. Here's to another few decades of Deals
I've seen the Pixies twice with Kim and twice with Paz, as well as Throwing Muses, Breeders and Bellly in the 90s. All great line ups, but nothing compares to the ground breaking influence that the early Pixies had on the whole alternative scene.
And Kurt was right, Gigantic was their best song!
It is hard for me to choose between the Pixies, The Breeders and Frank Black's first two albums. But I can tell you on occasion I find myself in tears when Kim is singing. Her voice is so beautiful and pure, I just get touched. So maybe that is my answer, also because I do not really like the rebooted Pixies without Kim. "Title TK" is an unknown gem, and "All Nerve" is nothing new but really enjoyable nevertheless.
Pixies suffer without Kim. But I think she was more powerful as a foil to Black Francis. It was tragic he saw her emergence through jealous eyes and really should have accommodated her talent within the band. Their loss, but I suppose you can't have two leaders in a band. Not that she wanted that, even.
I picked up Last Splash at a thrift store recently, man I had forgotten how much that album kicks ass! The whole thing is really a balls-out 90s rock record! Love it!
Always been Pixies over Breeders, as I feel they have a wider array of great music. But they never did seem quite the same after Kim's departure. Happy she made good stuff out of her leave; some of those songs on Last Splash are good like Divine Hammer and No Aloha.
Also, just checked out some of Frank Black's solo stuff for the first time. I Burn Today is a really great song.
Pixies over Breeders, but Breeders over Pixies without Kim Deal.
Great video as always. Do you think you can do one someday about the craziness around Ian Watkins and the Lost Prophets? I feel not many people know about how that ended up.
This.
I agree that that story should be more known, but it's pretty dark for this channel I think
It's sooooooo fucked up, though. Gonna need a pretty clear disclaimer at the beginning of the video (if it's done). Hearing all that shit they did will really mess with your head.
Not craziness
Go to horror stories channel.. it’s pretty grim :(
I saw them live in Seattle at the Off Ramp for the Last Splash release party. I'm 50 years old now and still love that album.
that Pacer album by The Amps is a gem, BTW. Underrated
they’re still a band. they rock.
It was interesting seeing all these bands of the early to mid 90s try to find their place in the late 90s and beyond. From Garbage to Soundgarden, so many floundered. The musical landscape had changed so much, as had the technology for distribution. It's almost like everyone had to "grow up" in the late 90s (and by grow up I think I mean adapt).
Writing songs on paper plates is a time honored practice. Not only are they readily available, but they are more durable and are easy to stack.
Loved the Breeders from Pod on. Honestly heard them before the Pixies. Really tried to like the Pixies, but Kim spoiled me for something better. Last time I saw her and Kelly in NYC, Kim handed me her pick after the show. Treasure!
Kim was brilliant in both. I love both bands.
I saw both bands play live. With Kim.
I would say I enjoyed Pixies live a lot more than the Breeders. They're clearly the more solid band.
But they were never the same without her.
The Breeders albums are overall consistently better than the Pixies albums, witch to me were not always amazing.
The best Pixies albums are definitely the ones Kim was in. Including "Indie City".
Saw Pixies first time thru at Staches in Col. OH. Liked the first l.p. and ep. But; great live. Didn't see the Breeders tho, which is odd because I went to shows a couple times a week. Seems like they would come by and play with Scrawl or Great Plains.
From the very first time I heard the Beatles' "Happiness is a Warm Gun," I felt that it was really a 1990s alternative song before it's time. I always imagined Soundgarden doing it though. Surprised now to find out Kim and the Breeders did it, but not at all disappointed.
Saw them on the 20th anniversary tour of Last Splash. They still brought the house down 🤘
It's cool to see all the Deal Twins fans out there. Yes ...they are still making great music and touring before the virus hit. Back with the original Last Splash lineup and better than ever. Both Kim and Kelley are ROCK legends in their own right. I personally, can't wait for them to leave Dayton and head back out into the world. The earth is better with the Deal Twins around.
The Pixies were an awesome, awesome band. The Breeders mop the floor with the Pixies. Mountain Battles being the best album of all times, next to In Utero.
Saw them perform at an empty pool in Brooklyn like 10 years ago, okay show - crowd woke up during Cannonball and it went pretty wild. When you have a hit, you have a hit.
They once came up from Dayton,to Piqua Oh. one Friday night,for "Cruise" night!!! (That was a HUGE Thing each weekend,where high-school kids would drive around the downtown area just "cruising" in the mid-80's. Anyway,this was before they became musically famous.
Gotta be honest, this wasn't just Kim's other band but being treated as such is what killed it. Tanya Donnelly was just as big at the time, just as important to it's formation, Throwing Muses was also a 4AD band...
The Pixies were great . Each member brought something unique and irreplaceable . A classic 'More than the sum of its parts' scenario . Pilgrim , Surfer Rosa and Doolittle are flawless works . If Black Francis had looked like Kurt Cobain they would have been huge . Image counts , alas. The Breeders , and Kim as a songwriter , were never in the same league , although they do have a few great songs (Cannonball , Safari ) .
Thanks for this .... I'm looking forward to seeing the Breeders on an upcoming Australian tour
Ugh, I want that Safari ep of theirs so bad. I’ve been looking for it almost 20 years. It’s almost impossible to find nowadays though. It’s been out of print since the mid-90s, and is exceedingly rare. Such a cool little record. The title track especially.
Love the breeders and Kim deal
Breeders are still around
Always loved her for her and I always will!!
I ❤ you Kim.
Happy Valentines Day my love!!
All nerve was so good.
I SEE BREEDERS I CLICK
That's how I got here
You skipped over how when she got back with the pixies for a short bit during the first reunion tour, she wrote their hit that got major radio play on KROQ. It was called “Bang Thwok”.
Then she left or got kicked out again depending on the story. The Pixies hired another “Kim”, Shattuck, from The Muffs. They soon kicked her out too.
Seems Frank Black has more of the ego than Kim.
The fact “Last Splash” beat out all sales of Pixies and Black’s solo stuff COMBINED! says a lot.
But my all accounts she was a terrible timekeeper and unapologetic about it which would piss off your bandmates. Talent or no.
@@ranica47 I've seen plenty of accounts like that about Kim around the final years of the Pixies. Apparently their manager at the time wanted to fire her due to her tardiness and being unable to keep in time with the rest of the band but the the group stood up for her.
Which ever makes her happy will ultimately make her fans happy
Kim&Kelly really are *TAAAAR BABY* 's. TY for doing this one! Can you do My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult also :)
I second and third TKK. I've met and partied with Frank more than a few times he really is a nice guy, Buzz is more stand offish but pleasant.
"I'm the Electric Messiah." I always craved a return of the Thomas Thorn days in TKK. Those albums were so dark.
@@casucasueq4479 though I know its their least favorite album I have a deep and very real love of Hit and Run Holiday.
But Who killed the cock Robin? I killed the cock Robin. I shot the sparrow with my bow and arrow, I drink it's blood. Has got to be in the top five lines of their catalog of music.
I loved her as the woman in Pixies, but I don't like her being bullied by Black Francis... So, I rather she'd be a Breeder.
'bullied' is an awfully strong (and wrong) word to describe their relationship. They were two strong-willed people with their own visions and egos. I don't think there is any evidenced he bullied her as much as she didn't get her way nearly enough and so she decided to do her own thing.
Oh wow, really? I am so happy you're here to school me 'professor'?
He threw his guitar at her on stage. He ranted on about how he wanted to kill her. And before you get into historical Pixes facts, I really do not care what you think, so keep it to yourself. That means, don't respond and we can just go our separate merry ways.
@@stevenhaas9622 you're one of those that worships rockstars and defends them when they do wrong. Just because somebody is strong willed and fights back doesn't mean they weren't initially bullied. His behaviour was being a bully, but seeing as you feel the need to defend a relationship that you have no idea about and because you are so enanoured by Charles Francis, you will be an egghead and throw definitions around like an annoying nerd. If I knew you, I would throw my guitar at you. Are you beginning to see how bullying works or am I your new rockstar you need to defend?
The gradual disappearance of her voice from pixies songs
he looks really uncool, both with hair and bald....I only know the song Gigantic by them.
I like The Pixies much more but The Breeders are great. Kim is a legend
I’ll tell you what happened to The Breeders. Saw them last night and they fucking rocked.
I remember listening to the song Huffer for the first time at work on a night shift. Soon enough I was singing it out loud.