New Incredible Beta Super Mario World Discoveries! - Lost Beta Powerup!?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- Super Mario World has always been a game with a strange past, and knowledge of just how different the game looked in its earlier beta stages has been no mystery for quite some time. With a recent leak of multiple files pertaining to old Super Nintendo games, we finally have the opportunity to learn more about what Super Mario World looked like in its earlier days!
In this video we look at beta overworld maps, beta Mario and Luigi sprites, beta enemy sprites, scrapped enemies, scrapped bosses, and even a powerup which until now had never seen the light of day! It appears that Mario's transformation after picking up a feather may have at one time been very different. Should we call it Helmet Mario? Or perhaps Cannonball Mario?
Beta Super Mario World and beta Super Mario 64 have always been at the top my my list of beta games I'd love to see, so with these brand new developments half of that dream is finally coming true! At this rate it will likely only be a matter of time before the beta SMW elements are recreated in a rom hack, or maybe we'll eventually be able to play the real beta version of SMW itself!
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Can we appreciate the very same Mario from the magazine is now at the reach of a png file?
One of the coolest parts of this is definitely at long last being able to see clear versions of things which were previously only available in blurry magazine photos! Thank you for watching and commenting. :)
@@TheGameDisplay Just a few months before the 30th anniversary of the game.
Fr lmao
@@vicgc96 30 years. Goddammit.
@@mank11nd Better than never
It makes sense the cannonball Mario in smw,there are pipes that reyect Mario like a cannon,like the big one in Yoshi island 1 (the First level)
That's another big example as well! I don't want to push the circus narrative too much until there's more proof, but there definitely does seem to be inklings of it around if you think about it!
Thank you very much for watching and commenting. :)
@@TheGameDisplay "inklings" LOL
@@mariohaz9863 you do know an inkling isn't just from splatoon, and is actually a word?
ink·ling
/ˈiNGkliNG/
noun
a slight knowledge or suspicion; a hint.
"the records give us an inkling of how people saw the world"
Oh. I never knew that.
Mario 64 straight up put him in a cannon. ngl, seems like there's a firm theory here.
10:00 that moment when you realize the mario bros. movie actually got Yoshi right
Jesus, how many Luigi sprites for SMW are there? We got:
The original which is a recolor
The beta version we only see with Mario’s pallete
All Stars’ sprite, which is the most well known
SMA2’s sprite, which is just the SMB2 one
and finally SMM2
And then you get to see luigi in 64, wasn't 2013 the year of luigi?
Also GBA's sprite
Then another game aka called Mario’s Early Years
@@SIG7Pro and Mario is Missing
SMA2 Luigi's sprite was actually different from SMB2.
Yoshi is accurate to real dinos in this build because his legs are boney and skinny
Most dinosaurs where quite thicc.
@@diegodankquixote-wry3242 T H I C C dinosaurs
Also most if not all dinosaurs have feathers(proto feathers)
Cuteness > Realism
The way pop culture sees dinosaurs is well scaled creatures that were very very scary and looked very similiar to modern crocs(atleast the skin)
Unlike real dinosaurs which are scary but most if not all dinosaurs possesed some kind of feathers but in reality birds evolved from the dinosaurs
8:13 Woah, that's my image! Thanks for featuring it in the video and also giving credit, much appreciated. I just want to note that the green I applied to Luigi is from the final SMW, it isn't the official palette, I just wanted to see what a palette that isn't messed up would look like on Luigi.
Thanks for making that image! Even if the colors aren't official, it's cool to see how that Luigi sprite may have looked in game! :)
Companies should release this stuff themselves, I bet fans would even pay money for collections per game or series.
yeah but they might change it a bit or not put some of the things to protect their image or boost it
You're god damn right I'd pay for beta shit and prototypes
Probably even they don't know if they still have prototype stuff. It might buried deep in some dusty obscure archive or they might have overwritten or thrown the betas away to save space at some point in time.
It's probably never gonna happen. Regardless, I'd love to see them release more beta content from early Mario games
@@wulfazwlkwos9019 This, there was that one Starfox creator that hadn't seen some of the leaked stuff in years
9:47 well it would make sense that hes more lanky. Isn't he supposed to be a dinosaur? He definitely looks more raptor like
12:03 I get sonic vibes from the ground tiles there
Super Mario games following a certain theme sounds like a fun and interesting concept.
Nintendo should do it more.
Super Mario World was the first SNES game I played. That's probably true for many people who grew up in the early 90's. I remember my aunt bought SNES and brought it over to my grandmothers house. My cousins and I were gathered around the TV and I saw SNES and Mario World for the first time. I remember thinking the controller looked like the next step in development after the NES controller.
Super Mario World was the first SNES game I played as well! My first memory of it was at a friend's house, where we tried tirelessly to beat Donut Plains 2, yet couldn't do it. Looking back at it now, I have no idea why we had so much trouble. :P
Oh man that’s insane I was born in 96 so all I remember was the n64 growing up
Super Mario World was the very first video game I’ve played, period and this is coming from someone born in 1999.
The "KILL YOU" sign cracks me up. Reminds me of General Tao's shirt in Dragon Ball.
Yes!! Tho, Tao Baibai is an assassin, not a general...
@@Schwarzorn prob mixing him together with General Blue
Mercenary Tao
Shayn Davis
No, he’s called that in Funimation’s Dragon Ball Z. But doesn’t change the fact that he’s definitely not a General.
Astromyxin
Actually, more accurately, his profession lies between “assassin” and “mercenary”, so I guess he’s a “hit man”. And looking it up, he’s called such in his introduction: “殺し屋”.
It looks like the beta yoshi would have a flutter-jump.
Evan C I think it’s a similar idea to blue yoshi
13:28 the one in the bottom right looks a lot like that boss on top of that mountain summit in mario snd luigi superstar saga
13:48 those "dinosaurs" you are talking about seem to be beta versions of Blargg
That's definitely a believable case for what they might have been! Their giant size sure makes them seem a lot more menacing though. Perhaps they were originally more like the Blarggs in Yoshi's Island!
I imagine someone at nintendo looking at the scribbled dinosaur sprites and finding them too funny to not use in some capacity. That would explain the somewhat goofy appearance of Blargg that always occured somewhat out of place to me, when compared to most of the games art style.
If MarioBros3 would look like a Theater performance,
MarioWorld could look like a Circus performance...
Really brilliant your interpretation!!!
Thank you for watching! It's interesting because when you think about it, Super Mario 3D WORLD also has circus undertones to it, while its predecessor, 3D Land took a lot of inspiration from SMB3. I feel like there might actually be some truth to this theory!
Every copy of Mario world is personalized
Your copy also has the part where you're chased by a giant Wario head...right?
Always has been
Le funnay maymay everyone!!!! We must mention this on every le video!!!
I've dreamed about been able to see all of this in it's full glory (not just some blurry pictures) I've never thought this day would actually come...
You left out a very interesting set of Beta Luigi sprites. One of them shows small Luigi in his "riding" state giving the player the bird.
Apologies if you're only joking here, but I think the sprite in question is supposed to be a thumbs-up...
Captain Obvious, away!
@@goldyoshii just like toad
Maybe the helmet was for when Mario shot out of a warp cannon to land in a different world.
5:19 it seems the beta idea was to have the power-ups be modular. like regular mario > super mario : then the helmet, cape, tail could each be used alone as an extra hit point, but could also combine for certain feats.
I think the helmet could make a good Mario cart skin,maybe Mario could wear a yellow and light blue jumpsuit with a blue or black cape.
The small Mario sprites that looked Mario 3-ish were actually kind of used in the game. The Mario sprite on the world map uses sprites nearly identical to those
9:30 That looks a lot like the original concept art from way back when during SMB1's development when Miyamoto wanted Mario to have a mount.
7:41 why do i have a feeling that the right sprites are for mario, and the left ones are for luigi?
other than that, YES! some more beta content from mario world! smw is my favorite classic game from mario, and i love finding new discoveries about it!
You're right! The ones with the longer face are definitely Luigi. While there may also be some Mario mixed in. Thank you for watching and commenting. :)
Yes, some mario sprites sporting and older design were leaked as well
Where is the spritesheet with Luigi giving the middle finger?! I WAS VERY INTERESTED IN THAT!!!
Maybe it was in SMAS? considering the pallete and sprite were very simular
4:44 it's really funny that you mention the cannon, I'm pretty sure there's a very early level with a pipe that shoots you out like a cannon ball.
6:52 The golden Yoshi here is in the final game. You can obtain it only using Gameshark codes and it has every Yoshi ability (Stomping, Flying, and fireball). If you grab a different color Yoshi it uses that Yoshi's abilities instead.
I'm really interested in that beta map with the mushroom island. I wonder if there's a functional version of it somewhere? I've always enjoyed how SMW branches out with secret exits, but that map seems to be doing openness in a very different way.
I was also thinking about secret exits and how they might have worked in the beta. It looks like the key and keyhole were in the game since quite an early stage, so unless they had a different use there may have been secret exits of some sort even back then. Hopefully we discover more about the map as people continue digging through the files!
Thank you for watching and commenting. :)
There is a old hack of smw who recreated the whole map + the levels + the scrapped fire flower and tanooki suit
You just got a new sub. I hope you'll do lots more leaked Nintendo stuff videos! It's absolutely fascinating!
Thank you so much! I hope you enjoy the content that I have coming out in the future. :)
Beta Yoshi looks like an Ostrich reminds me of smb2(doki doki panic)
The weird looking beta Yoshi is interesting because the baby Yoshi in the final game does resemble that original Yoshi sprite. I have been wondering why baby Yoshi looked a little off my entire life and now I know!
Now that you mention that, I can totally see it too! That's really interesting. Thanks for watching and commenting. :)
I never realized until now that the beta version of yoshi looks like the birds from joust. i wonder if he was inspired by that.
Therapist: Beta Yoshi isn't real, it can't hurt you.
Me: ok, you're right
_30 years later_
9:37
OH DEAR GOD
The leaf did NOT turn mario into the full Tanuki, you had to find a Tanuki suit power up to do that (either via a mushroom house, or via a giant ? block similar to the hammer bros suit). And the Tanuki suit actually had a special use other than just being able to fly - Pressing Down and B turned you into a statue which prevented enemies from hurting you at all.
There must have been something strange about the way I said it, because you're not the first person to bring this up, but the fact that the raccoon suit is not the same as the tanooki suit, yet in modern Mario games picking up a leaf for some reason gives Mario the appearance of tanooki mario is the point that I was trying to make. I'm not a fan of Nintendo making that change.
I’d think the cape and helmet/goggles should go together.
I believe it was for the big diagonal pipes
Awesome, Love Mario World, I think the best bit about this was seeing the extended map from the mushroom island. oh the things that could have been.
11:49 if you look on the right you can see squrtle from Pokemon. These leaks are amazing
I'm pretty sure the woodplanks at 14:16 where used for testing the Mode 7 sprite rotation. Not just because it looks similar the rotating planks in the Reznor fight, but also the upside down text would make sense.
(It's details like this that make me so excited about the leaks ^^)
Good job on the videos as always my friend keep up the awesome work wow there sure was a lot of cut content in the final game I cant remember but i saw something on TH-cam about a Laser Suit Powerup for Mario as well as a hidden level in Top Secret Area my cousin showed it to me and for some reason I cannot remember if it was cut content or add ons in a hack but it is definitely something I would love to look into well take care my friend I am going to watch some Tv and then I am going to play my Switch for awhile oh yeah my Uncle says thanks for the positive get well wishes it really meant a lot to him I hope you have an awesome day
Thanks for watching, Jake! I remember that Laser Suit powerup video from many years ago. It was a romhack, but I'd be lying if I said it wasn't the first thing I thought of when I saw Mario wearing the helmet! It's funny how that worked out.
Thank you for passing my wishes onto your uncle. I hope he's doing well. Take care, Jake! :)
Regarding the “circus” theme, don’t forget that SMW introduced the angled pipes that literally shoot Mario with a cannon shot sound. Maybe those pipes were originally designed as cannons and that power up/suit would go along with it, and they just repurposed them as pipes by changing the sprites but kept the entire mechanic, including the sound effect.
Thanks so much for this super interesting video! Earned a sub, make more great stuff man! :)
9:12 that enemy on the right is a beta Larry Koopa. Apparently, Iggy and Larry were meant to leap around judging by the downward foot frame.
That was some really interesting things I never expected to see. The cannonball mario seemed like a cool power up. Maybe one day they can actually use that idea. Also the whole carnival theme is great too, I wish they would of done that also. Luigi should of had his own sprite I say. Overall, some very cool beta ideas we sadly never got.
8:30 and Luigi's sprite was redrawn yet again for Super Mario Advance 2. Mario's SMW look is eternal, but Luigi is ever changing.
It does make you wonder if the various world map screens represented placeholders or whether or not there was ever a sense of progression established before the game was refined from SMB3 to SMW. I would assume perhaps a majority of the levels present in the final build were implemented in some limited form or were at least always planned to be developed, but it makes you wonder what other directions the narrative might have taken in 1989 during the SMB3 phase of development. If Nintendo's internal development is anything like Sega's, who knows how many level ideas were conceived and possibly saw some function before being scrapped(see Rock Zone/Wood Zone/Hidden Palace Zone/Genocide City Zone from Sonic 2 or R2 from Sonic CD). Anyway, thanks for consolidating the leaked info on SMW's beta assets. It's been difficult for me to follow.
Real talk: the helmet reminds me of the design of the laser powerup hoax. They were onto something
maybe the islands appeared as you progressed in the game? and when you end a castle a bridge to other side would be opened and you'd be able to continue into the story, and in a part of the lake the bowser world would appear?
This. This is what I always wanted, the same sprites, same look, new items, and new levels. Super Mario World is glorious.
"i've always dreamed of seeing more mario 64 beta content"
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The cannonball Mario sprite is interesting. My guess is it would have been used when Mario is launched from a pipe rather than when he has cape, you even get the cannon sound too.
Also fun fact, On/Off blocks did not exist in vanilla SMW. On/Off switches did but were only used to toggle line guides, blocks that change state based on the switch position were made for Romhacks. Nintendo stole the idea and added it into Mario Maker. The On/Off block you showed looked more like an early P Switch anyway.
There are some sprites in the leaked files of Super Mario World that are never seen anywhere else, before the leak. Not even in promotional material, for good reason. I can't recall what it is because I am unfamiliar with who it was supposed to represent but from what I gathered, it was some male character from an anime series not related to Mario at all within the sprite sheets (maybe a placeholder?). There is a full sprite sheet of it. I think there's another separate male character, unused as well (from maybe the same series?) within those same images.
Furthermore... some of these sprites of one of the said characters are almost completely naked except for some naked sprites with a tanooki headwear. With the belly button and front bit exposed and all. There's also some sprites of what seem to be Mario and Luigi flipping off the player. Look it up if you don't believe me.
I guess the employees at Nintendo needed to joke around during work hours.
the fact that they kept the small mario beta sprite on the over world is a hidden gem lol.... it was right in front of us the whole time 😂
11:50 - The Big Coin sprite from those magazine screenshots are in this lot, too.
14:16 - "Bunbun" is, indeed, the Japanese name for Boom-Boom. However, Reznor is *"Buibui,"* another onomatopoeic word. I s'pose the implication could go either way.
15:19 - You had me at "Wily Machine." 👍
I think Bowser should've got out of the broken clowncar to get Mario with ground pounds, punches and fire breath.
Those sprites at 5:57 are fascinating. I personally never liked the official design of small Mario in Mario World: it always seemed deformed to me. But these sprites at 5:57 are more resembling of the design from Mario 3, I like it
I love some of these old sprites.
Especially raccoon mario
I think those big sharks are supposed to be the prototype Lunge Fish from Yoshi’s Island, and the dinosaur Koopa Troopa is supposed to be a new variation of Boom-Boom that uses the beta Reznor wheel!
I am just now noticing after all this time, the main island IS a mushroom head tilted slightly to the left, complete with eyes.
16:40 bowser looks like he's ready to vibe check mario
This is really cool information.
I’m looking at the 14:00 mark - the odd black and white drawn dinosaur looks like the lava monster from lava levels
Bowser one is too damn cool
its very nice seeing these betas that have been leaked, really would love to see if there is an actual beta rom that works and plays... i can vaguley remember way back when... when there was a kmart store in my area and seeing a demo of smw and it was a continue screen that is completely different then what the final version was and there was a strange world map in the back of it... i know im not crazy and i do remember seeing it but to this day there still hasnt been a leak or a recreate of said map... not that great at drawing so i could never actually draw it and as the years tick up its getting harder to remember how it was exactly but to this day there still hasnt been a dump or leak of that screen for me to see but the more i see the betas of racoon mario being in it and some of the beta maps i get hopes to seeing it come and to play it
Lol Cool but what about the Bird Cage? In the game. That you can turn in in the Super Mario World Editor?
13:25
Hm, aside from the Blarrg-looking enemies, here also are different end-points for tracks, a shark enemy, a early version of Iggy, and an enemy at the bottom that appears to only be a trace before it got scrapped.
This is the coolest thing I seen 10:51
I always thought bowser was green in super mario world
but it appears it was always just a lighting thing.
Thats comforting
I dunno if we're talking about the same thing, but I think at 9:28 those duck dinos resemble the mecha koopas.
we just gonna wait until someone make a romhack with all the beta stuff thrown in back
that would be awesome
9:25 i think that thing to the right might be some sort of snapping turtle enemy.
12:51 the older dragon coin is in the corner
what a time to be alive
17:20 those images in the far right are going to give me nightmares
The beta Yoshi looks a lot like the Mario Brothers movie version
All these new betas!
Actually now that you mention it... The Switch palace music DOES have a hint of circus music...
So perhaps you are onto something here...
The beta yoshi was more in line with Miamoto's original sketch he kept on his desk
Corrections:
Weird how you talk about the leaf giving him a full tanooki outfit _before_ when that was actually the tanooki outfit powerup before. Leaf always gave him just the tail and ears.
The sprite for a regular piranha plant head was always in the final game as well as a fully functional piranha plant object; its stem was messed up graphically though.
The "big coin" you said was a beta dragon coin is just a regular coin. I don't think they'd put 4 dragon coins next to each other.
Thank you for watching and commenting! I think there may be a few misunderstandings here.
I was trying to compare how in Mario 3 the leaf does not give Mario a full tanooki appearance, unlike in the modern games where when Mario collects a leaf he often gets the tanooki suit as well (However, NSMB2 actually kept just the tail and ears which I like). It's confusing because there is also a tanooki suit in SMB3 which is not identical to raccoon Mario.
And SMW does indeed have the upwards piranha head graphic in the game still. This graphic is also used for the jumping piranha plants. The normal upward piranha sprite goes unused though, and attempting to insert it into the game will cause it to have a glitched appearance due to the stem no longer existing in the graphics data of the final version.
@@TheGameDisplay Oh, shit, quick response ahoy. Alright, neat, thanks for clearing stuff up.
I can't fucking believe the Evel Knieval mario suit was real this whole time holy fuck
Back when I was an early teen just getting familiar with SMW romhacking, I remember a few YT vids this one guy made of this weird rom hack thing that was supposed to look like it was showcasing some super-duper-hidden secret level that contained a message from the devs and a powerup that would give mario that same helmet & cape. We all just thought it was a hoax back then. That just makes seeing this absolutely surreal
When you upscale pixelart you should use "Nearest Neighbor" as upscaling mode so you dont get those blurry visuals that looks like someone prited it out on a printer from 1980s. Just a tip to look into. Other then that like the video and its very nicely structured.
Thank you for the tip! In this case, the video editor stretched some things automatically, and I didn't realize it in preview window. Never would I have imagined that thousands of people would end up watching it, haha!
Gosh, those sprites were awsome, maybe they were removed due to cartridge space.
I think it’s sad that Nintendo might take this type of videos down. (This was form a hack tbf but this is really cool to see)
At 11:55 there seems to be the sprite of that big coin shown in that previous screenshot on the right
9:45 So this is where they got the inspiration for Yoshi in the Super Mario Bros Movie
Wait maybe I’m making a connection out of nothing but isn’t there a sprite in the Yoshi island (specifically the Super Donkey stuff) files where the helmeted character takes it off looks like Mario? Maybe that’s related to the helmet Mario here? Idk
I'm shocked that you're the only other person I've seen make this connection so far
Amazing
The beta Yoshi looks a lot more adorable to me. The beta one where he's slightly more plump is even cuter.
The unused item might just be an alternate version of the cape, and they just forgot to draw it?
13:57 no mention of the sharks?
The dinosaurs are definitely the big attention draw on that page. But you're correct! It would have been cool if there were shark enemies mixed in with the friendly dolphins. :)
@@TheGameDisplay That's just a Beta Blargggh. Looks like a badly-drawn version of his end sprite. Sharks are likely a Beta Boss Bass/ Big Bertha.
I think those strange duck/dinosaur/turtle thing is actually meant to be an early mechakoopa cuz it looks like a koopa but more like a toy.
I’m just waiting for the moders to make magic
Every copy of Super Mario World is personalized. ;)
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Maybe if we survive until christmas 2020, a leaker will give us the beta roms for mario world
That uggo Peach. Were they going to have a scene like when Eddie meets Lena the Hyena in _Who Framed Roger Rabbit_?
Nintendo can’t make up their mind with SMW Luigi.
Looks different in proto, SMW, SMAS+SMW, SMA2, and SMM2
9:20 that was probably a giant koopa due to the fact that its outline is bigger than every enemy
In super Mario world, you get shot out of a pipe in a couple of levels, so cannon ball mario would make sense there
The Super Mario Bros 3 port was eventually finished....All-Stars Baby!!!
12:55 OMG CLOUD FLOWER IN SMW!!1