This band got me through a tough period of my life in my preteens and teens and into adulthood. Even now I go back on occasion and feel like I can still relate to songs like retina and the war is over. Their music really hasn't aged one bit. I hope they put out something soon. They've been such a great band.
I got into this band because as a kid I downloaded a rare deftones song called “Hover”… Then eventually found out it wasn’t deftones but actually trust company I went a out and bought the lonely position of neutral on cd and I loved it. It was a great time, skateboarding, baggy jeans, spiked gelled hair. Good memories.
"The Lonely Position of Neutral" is one of my top albums of all time. It's one of the few albums I can listen front to back with no skips. This band was so good, sucks they stopped.
Downfall might be TrustCompany's most well-known song, but they've got a swarm of excellent songs. Falling Apart, Stronger, The War Is Over, Silently, Crossing The Line, Erased, Finally, Deeper Into You, The Fear, Running From Me and Someone Like You are amazing as well!
@@_-_-_-Prof.BoskoBiathi-_-_-_ I had a 5 speed little blue ford escort back in the day and I loved to blast Figure 8 and act like my car was fast revving it up back in the day
They released an album in 2011 called 'Dreaming in Black and White' that's significantly better than anything they did before it, I would highly recommend everyone give it a listen
@@ericmarvel909 I love their first album too but it’s definitely a product of it’s time, I feel like dreaming in black & white has a more timeless sound
Y’all will all be happy to know that the band got back together and is touring again! 😁 I saw them last night and they truly blew my mind. They sounded phenomenal! If anyone is interested, The next date so far is welcome to Rockville in Jacksonville, May 9-12!
Painfully underrated. Theyre debut album was huge in my formative years and still listen to this day. No skips. Played it once at work and a girl working next to me liked it and inquired and told her about it and said "came out the year you were born haha" and her eyes got all big lol. Hopefully a new wave of exposure is in the cards for them and they get the recognition they've deserved.
I love being reminded of bands I forgot about. I had the CD. No idea what happened to it. Thank God for Spotify. Any band. Anywhere. Any time. I'm gonna listen to them tonight.
Bama native here. Kevin visited a restaurant I was working at at the time and got a pic with him. Super chill dude and that was like 10 years ago. I remember “Downfall” being on that Disney Skating game.
The Lonely Position of Neutral was a great album. I remember getting that cd in '02 and listening to it so many times. The singer had an interesting voice, and the band had a good sound.
Still a fan of TRUSTcompany as they are one of the few bands from their era that aged well. They also produced good albums instead of just wrapping 40 minutes around the three singles you wrote. One of the few bands from the early 2000s that I can say never disappointed me. Hope the best for all members and hope the reuniting goes well.
I still listen to their 3 albums regularly, have all 3 of them sitting right here. SO underrated, Stronger, Downfall, Running From me are just masterpieces of skate punk metal mixies. Their last album Dreaming in black and white is just a masterpiece from start to finish. Each album was even stronger (no pun intended) than the last. it's so sad they disappeared. I'm listening to a least a few of their songs once a week at least. True Parallels, Lonely Position of Neutral and Dreaming in Black and White are all 3 masterpieces to my skate punk metal heart..lol
Trust company is insanely underrated. How whenever Top whatever " Rock one hit wonders of the 2000s" lists are compiled and "Downfall" isn't on the list or even mentioned is absurd. You know bc can't omit songs like " Headstrong" ( the most corny, lame overrated song of the past 25 years), the Franz Ferdinand cover of take me out called "Paralyzer" by Finger Eleven or " Wherever you will go" or whatever 1000 songs it ripped off or bands that ripped this off and don't forget the awful covers bc "Downfall" doesn't compete and wasn't 13 year old girls favorite song.
Any 2000's ALT/Nu metal list without "Downfall" or "Wasteland" by 10 years on it instantly loses any sort of credibility (imo), MX Unleashed and the song Downfall is forever burnt in my memories lol such good times.
The biggest promotion they got was arguably by WWE of all places. Having not one, not two, but three songs used as themes for PPVs watched by millions and sampled every week on national TV got their name out there more than anything else.
I bought their 1st album when I was 11 and would get home from school shortly before my parents and jam out to this while doing homework on my dads stereo! Good memories.
Saw these guys in late 2008 and was fortunate enough to meet them all. SUPER nice guys. Very friendly and polite. James actually walked up to ME and initiated a conversation (due to my Trust Co shirt). Literally the nicest band I've ever met. and I've met a good amount.
The song was the theme song for one of the WWE pay-per-views, I can't remember which one. But that's how I became a fan. I got introduced to a lot of hard rock music because of WWE. Drowning Pool, Rob Zombie, Limp Bizkit, Trust Co, all had ppv theme songs.
I heard Downfall when WWE made it a theme for a PPV back then. I liked it so I bought the album soon after. I think I still have it or maybe not... Just another band from my years of youthful exuberance...
As a teenager in Montgomery, my friends and I would go to their shows (41Down) and do a little bit of partying with them. Good times from what I can remember
Trust Company such an amazing band. They don’t get enough love. Downfall was my walk out song for wrestling my senior year. One of my favorite bands The lonely position of neutral is amazing
Saw these guys open for Korn and Disturbed in 2002. Shortly after that they just poof, disappeared from any spotlight. Always wondered what happened to them. Thank you!
I have those first two albums and enjoy them a great deal. They had a nice sound, without all the screaming associated with much of their contemporaries. You don't need long hair or a marketable image to make good rock music, and these guys proved that.
The LPON stayed in my old car single CD player back in 2002 for months on end. I could listen to it straight through over and over and never got bored. man I miss those days.
I love when one of these videos pops up and gives me one of those, oh yeah, that band! Then I go back and listen, and there's a flood of memories. This band had some great tracks, and they hold up.
I discovered this band when they opened up for Korn back in 2002. I love them right away! Favorites are "Running from Me" "Someone Like You" "The Reflection" and "The War is Over." I still listen to them to this day.
Ok I think this is the first time this has happened to me in the history of my life. This is the first RNR video that I’ve seen that you show your face and you look EXACTLY the way I always imagined. Amazing.
Great video! I was fortunate enough to be close with these guys during their time in Florida. I first saw/met them as 41 Down when they were playing small clubs in Orlando. Watching and being a part of them getting bigger was exciting. The last time I was around them was when they were on tour with Korn around 02/03 (?). Great times!!
I'm so glad I got to see them live soon after Dreaming In Black and White came out. So glad to hear both their new stuff and their classic stuff in their set!
Only knowing Downfall, when my buddy raved about this band I shrugged them off. I gave in and listened to the first album and I’ve been a fan ever since! Great vocal work on so many of these tunes!
I live on the Gulf Coast, and I definitely remember the huge buzz 41 Down had as a regional act before they became TRUSTcompany. It was pretty exciting to see a band from this area get signed to a major label and have a hit song.
So long story short, it kind of went: Major label before the record: “Trust us, we know best.” Major label after the record: “You’re not good enough, thanks for playing!”
I was hoping to hear about the connection with Flyleaf. The first lines of 'Fully Alive' are about Kevin's wife, Layla Palmer after a horrific traffic collision'. "Telling Laylas story spoken / about how all her bones are broken" There's a story behind how Lacey Sturm (nee Mosley) knew Layla and why this event moved her so much. I'd like to hear about that.
I fucking loved this band...1st album, incredible...2nd album, also incredible....3rd, also incredible.. ive spent alot of time listening to their music.
I was 11 when I discover this band. WWE had just released their PPV theme song for survivor series 2008 and it was Trust Company - Falling Apart. I fell in love with the song and continue to listen to their other music and became a huge fan. Still to this day I listen to all three of their albums on Apple Music
I first learned about and saw Trust Company when they opened for Korn back in the early 2000's in Wichita KS. I was really impressed with them, although I and most people were there to see Korn. I did make note of them and bought their CD the following week and loved the whole CD. They have a unique style. I always wondered what happened to them. Thanks for the video explaining about them.
their entire first album is great. i talked to their manager at a show.. they were supposed be to play OzFest, but the Record Company made them go in the studio to record the 2nd album, and it was plagued with problems and delays. they lost their momentum.
I remember getting their 1st album in 02. I was 14, I was just about start high school and I remember the album was so good. Of course I was sold with downfall, that’s why I got the album at my local target lol. But it’s a album I still listen to 21 years later today. The voice and Riffs drew me in. Couldn’t get into the other albums sadly. Just didn’t hit like the lonely position of neutral.
The lonely position of neutral is the definition of nostalgia for me and is in my top 10 favorite albums ever. I’m usually very picky about rating albums but I give this album 10/10 along with toxicity, untouchables, hymn of a broken man, and dirt
I saw them live at Rock on the Range in 2011. They put on a good show, but what I remember most is how so many people had signs for them to play downfall.
Trust company is SOO good. They r one of my dad’s favorite bands of all time and became a family favorite. The lonely post it’s on of neutral is literally GOLD. Every freaking song. I literally saw they r playing at Inkcarceration this year and I about freaked! I wanna see them sooo bad. Almost saw them for $13 back with my dad and sister in mid 2000s but fell through unfortunately, Still waiting for a new album cause I know will be gold.
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Trust company is criminally underrated. In 3 albums they literally don’t have a bad song.
I totally agree
This band got me through a tough period of my life in my preteens and teens and into adulthood. Even now I go back on occasion and feel like I can still relate to songs like retina and the war is over. Their music really hasn't aged one bit. I hope they put out something soon. They've been such a great band.
this was the first band I first really got into as at 14 year old, spawning a great metal taste through the years
@SkaisntDead-kk2vj not my first. I was probably 12-13. But definitely a big one. My first was all the nu metal when I was 10-11.
I got into this band because as a kid I downloaded a rare deftones song called “Hover”… Then eventually found out it wasn’t deftones but actually trust company I went a out and bought the lonely position of neutral on cd and I loved it. It was a great time, skateboarding, baggy jeans, spiked gelled hair. Good memories.
Lol I remember seeing that mp3 floating around. The internet was a wild place for file sharing
I remember hearing Deftones version of Hover on my friends mp3 and thinking “hey that’s my band Trust Company”
Dude. What a nostalgia pull! I had that EXACT same download. 👏👏👏
Same here lol I still have a burned cd somewhere with the song listed as deftones and found out later it was trust company
Meee too😊😊😊
"The Lonely Position of Neutral" is one of my top albums of all time. It's one of the few albums I can listen front to back with no skips. This band was so good, sucks they stopped.
I totally agree!
Agreed, I can listen to that album in its entirety. One of my all time favorites
Their song “Surfacing” from their sophomore album (True Parallels) was awesome 🤘🏽
Same! It’s rare to find a no skip album for me. I’ve even rebought the cd multiple times
You know they're back right! They played at the blue ridge rock festival and delivered!!
Downfall might be TrustCompany's most well-known song, but they've got a swarm of excellent songs. Falling Apart, Stronger, The War Is Over, Silently, Crossing The Line, Erased, Finally, Deeper Into You, The Fear, Running From Me and Someone Like You are amazing as well!
And drop to zero
And Figure 8
And Stumbling.
breaking down
And Alone Again.
This band was AWESOME! “Downfall” was great, but “Running From Me” was my absolute favorite!!
Mine was "Falling Apart"
That song is still up there as one of my top 10. Very underrated band
I prefer figure 8
@@_-_-_-Prof.BoskoBiathi-_-_-_ I had a 5 speed little blue ford escort back in the day and I loved to blast Figure 8 and act like my car was fast revving it up back in the day
The riffs in that song are just simply 🫠🫠🤩🤩🥹🥹
We truly had a blast making Dreaming!!! Thank you for all of the kind comments!
They released an album in 2011 called 'Dreaming in Black and White' that's significantly better than anything they did before it, I would highly recommend everyone give it a listen
Definitely an overlooked gem!!
I’ll go take a look. I remember I couldn’t quite get into the albums after the debut. But I’ll go run it across my ear drums a couple more times
Dreaming in Black and White is better than The Lonely Position of Neutral, and I absolutely love Neutral!
@@ericmarvel909 I love their first album too but it’s definitely a product of it’s time, I feel like dreaming in black & white has a more timeless sound
Significantly better???
Y’all will all be happy to know that the band got back together and is touring again! 😁 I saw them last night and they truly blew my mind. They sounded phenomenal! If anyone is interested, The next date so far is welcome to Rockville in Jacksonville, May 9-12!
Painfully underrated. Theyre debut album was huge in my formative years and still listen to this day. No skips. Played it once at work and a girl working next to me liked it and inquired and told her about it and said "came out the year you were born haha" and her eyes got all big lol. Hopefully a new wave of exposure is in the cards for them and they get the recognition they've deserved.
I love being reminded of bands I forgot about. I had the CD. No idea what happened to it. Thank God for Spotify. Any band. Anywhere. Any time. I'm gonna listen to them tonight.
I saw them at the gravity games when I was a teenager. It was my first real concert, and made me see music differently.
Life changing moment!
❤
As the years have gone on Trust Company has become my favorite band. Those two albums are just absolutely perfect.
Bama native here. Kevin visited a restaurant I was working at at the time and got a pic with him. Super chill dude and that was like 10 years ago. I remember “Downfall” being on that Disney Skating game.
The Lonely Position of Neutral was a great album. I remember getting that cd in '02 and listening to it so many times. The singer had an interesting voice, and the band had a good sound.
TRUSTcompany and Smile Empty Soul were my go-to in 2002..I was 17
@@erased84 *Wasn’t Smile Empty Soul, 2003?*
Still a fan of TRUSTcompany as they are one of the few bands from their era that aged well. They also produced good albums instead of just wrapping 40 minutes around the three singles you wrote. One of the few bands from the early 2000s that I can say never disappointed me. Hope the best for all members and hope the reuniting goes well.
underrated band - lead singer definitely had a unique voice
Also found out about them because of WWF. Downfall was the theme song for Vengeance 2002.
I always thought Trust Company's lead singer's vocal style was a mix of Chester Bennington (Linkin Park) and Mike Muir (Suicidal Tendencies).
I've been getting into a Trust Company phase listening to the debut album. I'm so glad that this video came out at the right time.
The lonely position of neutral is one of my favorite albums to this day
I still listen to their 3 albums regularly, have all 3 of them sitting right here. SO underrated, Stronger, Downfall, Running From me are just masterpieces of skate punk metal mixies. Their last album Dreaming in black and white is just a masterpiece from start to finish. Each album was even stronger (no pun intended) than the last. it's so sad they disappeared. I'm listening to a least a few of their songs once a week at least. True Parallels, Lonely Position of Neutral and Dreaming in Black and White are all 3 masterpieces to my skate punk metal heart..lol
Also, the lead singer had a cool whisper-like voice that I really liked! It was kinda unique.
*You can thank the deftones for that.* 😆💯
@@mid-s_to_earlysViBEZ lol that’s true!!
This song was in Disney Skate Adventure which still to this day blows my mind
yup and they had a bunch of songs in some other games like Rock Band and NFL Blitz Pro
Till this day they are still in my top 5 bands
Interesting, my band and Trust Company played shows together with Flyleaf.
Their sound guy was GOOD!
Trust company is insanely underrated. How whenever Top whatever " Rock one hit wonders of the 2000s" lists are compiled and "Downfall" isn't on the list or even mentioned is absurd. You know bc can't omit songs like " Headstrong" ( the most corny, lame overrated song of the past 25 years), the Franz Ferdinand cover of take me out called "Paralyzer" by Finger Eleven or " Wherever you will go" or whatever 1000 songs it ripped off or bands that ripped this off and don't forget the awful covers bc "Downfall" doesn't compete and wasn't 13 year old girls favorite song.
Thanks for the love !
Agreed 100 percent!!
Are you having a stroke
Any 2000's ALT/Nu metal list without "Downfall" or "Wasteland" by 10 years on it instantly loses any sort of credibility (imo), MX Unleashed and the song Downfall is forever burnt in my memories lol such good times.
@@joshmoates9730 Thanks for your part in Trust Company!!!
This band had some great songs back when they went by 41 Down, Laslo comes to mind.
The biggest promotion they got was arguably by WWE of all places. Having not one, not two, but three songs used as themes for PPVs watched by millions and sampled every week on national TV got their name out there more than anything else.
I bought their 1st album when I was 11 and would get home from school shortly before my parents and jam out to this while doing homework on my dads stereo! Good memories.
I love Trust Company it's too bad they only released 3 albums I hope they can reunite again
Saw these guys in late 2008 and was fortunate enough to meet them all. SUPER nice guys. Very friendly and polite. James actually walked up to ME and initiated a conversation (due to my Trust Co shirt). Literally the nicest band I've ever met. and I've met a good amount.
The song was the theme song for one of the WWE pay-per-views, I can't remember which one. But that's how I became a fan. I got introduced to a lot of hard rock music because of WWE. Drowning Pool, Rob Zombie, Limp Bizkit, Trust Co, all had ppv theme songs.
I heard Downfall when WWE made it a theme for a PPV back then. I liked it so I bought the album soon after. I think I still have it or maybe not...
Just another band from my years of youthful exuberance...
Some of their songs are still in my rotation.. underrated band
I really liked their comeback album dreaming in black and white, and thought theyre were back in full swing. I was hoping for more
TLPoN is still one of the most underrated albums from this era.
As a teenager in Montgomery, my friends and I would go to their shows (41Down) and do a little bit of partying with them. Good times from what I can remember
I was excited when they were announced for Blue Ridge. They were one of my favorite bands during my teen years.
The drummer was rock solid. I don’t think there are any skips on their records for me, and Take It All is one of my favorite songs of all time.
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Wow, thanks!
1:36 whoa! :D I was not prepared.
Trust Company such an amazing band. They don’t get enough love. Downfall was my walk out song for wrestling my senior year. One of my favorite bands
The lonely position of neutral is amazing
Saw these guys open for Korn and Disturbed in 2002. Shortly after that they just poof, disappeared from any spotlight. Always wondered what happened to them. Thank you!
Oh man. I loved this band. Thanks for this upload
Anyone ever heard of the motocross video game called MX UNLEASHED? Downfall was the opening song for the intro and as a soundtrack for the game
Glad to see a video on this. This is a underrated band. I really enjoyed listening to their music back in the 00's. I do hope to hear more from them.
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@MichaelMoxley-jk8wh ok 👍
Still have their first two albums on CD. Good band. Solid songs.
Downfall was on constant repeat from 6th grade to sophomore year of high school for me. A slice of killer alternative metal.
I have those first two albums and enjoy them a great deal. They had a nice sound, without all the screaming associated with much of their contemporaries. You don't need long hair or a marketable image to make good rock music, and these guys proved that.
One of the few Bands i keep the CDs from.
Awesome band, gives me childhood memories every time.
Thank you for covering this band! They were awesome but grossly overlooked!
The LPON stayed in my old car single CD player back in 2002 for months on end. I could listen to it straight through over and over and never got bored. man I miss those days.
Always loved the fact wwe vengeance 2002 had this as their theme. Best one ever
TRUST COMPANY is reuniting at the Blue Ridge Rock festival this September.
Still one of my favorite bands and their songs are in regular rotation in my car.
Started listening to this band when I was 12. Saw Downfall on MTV.
I never stopped listening to them. I am now 34.
I love when one of these videos pops up and gives me one of those, oh yeah, that band! Then I go back and listen, and there's a flood of memories. This band had some great tracks, and they hold up.
The Lonely Position OF Neutral was the greatest Nu Metal record of all time. I said what I said ..
*It’s definitely up there…* 💯
top ten for sure
I discovered this band when they opened up for Korn back in 2002. I love them right away! Favorites are "Running from Me" "Someone Like You" "The Reflection" and "The War is Over." I still listen to them to this day.
I love them! Still listen to them to this day.
Thanks for the info on these guys. "Downfall" happens to be the only TRUSTcompany song I know.
I felt like I was on a musical deserted island with this band. So glad to see them getting some love and glad to see all of you lol.
Got to meet them as 41 down doing lights for a local show in Pasadena, TX. I was very impressed with the professionalism and music.
Ok I think this is the first time this has happened to me in the history of my life. This is the first RNR video that I’ve seen that you show your face and you look EXACTLY the way I always imagined. Amazing.
Love this band! Their melodies are so unique imo. They’re back now and I hope they do a tour and album, which I think is what they’re planning:)
Great video! I was fortunate enough to be close with these guys during their time in Florida. I first saw/met them as 41 Down when they were playing small clubs in Orlando. Watching and being a part of them getting bigger was exciting. The last time I was around them was when they were on tour with Korn around 02/03 (?). Great times!!
The Alabama band that sounded like a California band.
I'm so glad I got to see them live soon after Dreaming In Black and White came out. So glad to hear both their new stuff and their classic stuff in their set!
Only knowing Downfall, when my buddy raved about this band I shrugged them off. I gave in and listened to the first album and I’ve been a fan ever since! Great vocal work on so many of these tunes!
They used to come through this club I worked in between 08-09, always killed it. Nice guys
My first concert was Korn, Disturbed, and Trust Co.
I live on the Gulf Coast, and I definitely remember the huge buzz 41 Down had as a regional act before they became TRUSTcompany. It was pretty exciting to see a band from this area get signed to a major label and have a hit song.
So long story short, it kind of went:
Major label before the record: “Trust us, we know best.”
Major label after the record: “You’re not good enough, thanks for playing!”
So awesome. I’ve always wondered what happened. Thanks for the video.
Downfall is still on my gym track list ever since it came out when I was in the military 😎🤘🏾
I was hoping to hear about the connection with Flyleaf. The first lines of 'Fully Alive' are about Kevin's wife, Layla Palmer after a horrific traffic collision'. "Telling Laylas story spoken / about how all her bones are broken"
There's a story behind how Lacey Sturm (nee Mosley) knew Layla and why this event moved her so much. I'd like to hear about that.
Downfall was the theme for WWE Vengeance 2002
Miss this band
They would benefit from a reunion tour (again) big time
Their back again all original members!
I believe it's time... to reconsider that statement!!!
i remember getting their cd for my bday one year. i was so stoked
I fucking loved this band...1st album, incredible...2nd album, also incredible....3rd, also incredible.. ive spent alot of time listening to their music.
I was 11 when I discover this band. WWE had just released their PPV theme song for survivor series 2008 and it was Trust Company - Falling Apart. I fell in love with the song and continue to listen to their other music and became a huge fan. Still to this day I listen to all three of their albums on Apple Music
Falling apart is my favorite song from these guys
Hover was my favorite song on that album and now it makes sense why.
They’re officially back
I first learned about and saw Trust Company when they opened for Korn back in the early 2000's in Wichita KS. I was really impressed with them, although I and most people were there to see Korn. I did make note of them and bought their CD the following week and loved the whole CD. They have a unique style. I always wondered what happened to them. Thanks for the video explaining about them.
Album is still in my daily rotation. Its so good.
Still listen to the debut album minimum 1 time in a month,..i love figure 8
They are reuniting and performing at Blue Ridge Rock festival this year!!!
Would love a vinyl press of “Lonely Position…”
I saw them in Sacramento years ago and there were only 8 people in the crowd. I felt so bad for them.
Where at? I saw them only once in 2002 at Boreal Warped Tour.
@@graydenday3760 some club in Sacramento, it's closed now, I can't remember the name. I have the ticket stub at home but I'm not there now.
@@graydenday3760 actually, the first time I saw them was at the boreal warp tour.
@@EdCollects sounds like Boardwalk
@@graydenday3760 nonit definitely wasn't the Boardwalk, I've been there a billion times.
their entire first album is great. i talked to their manager at a show.. they were supposed be to play OzFest, but the Record Company made them go in the studio to record the 2nd album, and it was plagued with problems and delays. they lost their momentum.
I remember getting their 1st album in 02. I was 14, I was just about start high school and I remember the album was so good. Of course I was sold with downfall, that’s why I got the album at my local target lol. But it’s a album I still listen to 21 years later today. The voice and Riffs drew me in. Couldn’t get into the other albums sadly. Just didn’t hit like the lonely position of neutral.
The lonely position of neutral is the definition of nostalgia for me and is in my top 10 favorite albums ever. I’m usually very picky about rating albums but I give this album 10/10 along with toxicity, untouchables, hymn of a broken man, and dirt
Hung with these guys after a show in seattle at the EMP. Cool guys
In their first cd, there's a free download of an acoustic version of Hover if put in a computer and open the program.
You ever come across bands you listened to at one point and completely forgot that you did until you come across things like this?
Wide open at the dunes catching huge air cranked up loud
I saw them live at Rock on the Range in 2011. They put on a good show, but what I remember most is how so many people had signs for them to play downfall.
Trust company is SOO good. They r one of my dad’s favorite bands of all time and became a family favorite. The lonely post it’s on of neutral is literally GOLD. Every freaking song. I literally saw they r playing at Inkcarceration this year and I about freaked! I wanna see them sooo bad. Almost saw them for $13 back with my dad and sister in mid 2000s but fell through unfortunately, Still waiting for a new album cause I know will be gold.