this was one of the most requested bands on my google form. To submit requests use the google form here. docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScCQjTcPGrzUbG7H7t4toQehliwBS_Fcp78JeY_js4zZbX2jA/viewform
I'm surprised that the monstrous success of the song "I Alone" was pushed Live over the top of the music charts(and was a major contribution to their success) wasn't mentioned.
I remember 95-96, when "Throwing Copper" was like THE album to get, along with Bush's Sixteen Stone and Alanis' Jagged Little Pill. That was like the 90s alt rock survival kit.
@Christopher Bingham Then you can alternate it out with "Smash" by the Offspring, that was another album that I saw a lot of my friends had at the time.
@@JasonNation72 I remember everyone in the Bay area fucking HATING the Offspring for being shitty false punk. Kinda ironic that we loved Green day so much but they were 100* the band Offspring ever were. Especially at that time.
@Christopher Bingham they both are lmfao. Calling one not vs the other just shows you know nothing. The Offspring are genuinely the worst band to ever come out and be lumped into punk. At least Green Day made a couple good songs back in the day. Can't say that for Offspring.
@@musiclighthouse1913 My dad is friends with Chad's grandfather. He was hanging out with him one day, and Chad stopped by in a Dodge Viper. Dad told Chad I was a fan, and he pulled a Live pin out of his pocket and gave it to my dad to give to me. I always thought that was cool of him.
Like 3 months ago I was asking my jam buddy why we didn't fan boy out over their bass lines; all he could say was there was a lot of other good stuff from the time. Makes sense but it's a shame. Damn fine bass work.
@@st.albans5560 Secret Samadhi has a completely original "light in the darkness vibe", or "hippies gone goth" vibe which i've never heard in any other record. It sounds like a mix between Throwing Copper + The Distance to Here but what really makes it cool is that vibe I described last paragraph. I think it's their best one.
Throwing copper was the reason i followed the band. Lightning crashes was an epic song that cemented my allegiance to the band. I still listen to both today.
Throwing Copper is an unbelievably mature record for a band that had only made one record, and were just basically young men. It's one of the greatest records of all time.
Throwing Copper is one hell of an album. Some of the unreleased tracks are better than the singles, and even the hidden track is fantastic. It holds up.
I had never heard of them until I saw them open for another band. He sang his heart out. When they played Lightning Crashes I fell apart and had to go to the bathroom to stop crying. I had a miscarriage 4 months before. I think that song is beautiful and speaks to women more and anyone who has lost a child or their wife or girlfriend in childbirth. Say what you want about the rest of their music, but that song is very special.
Throwing Copper is one of the ten greatest albums ever recorded. The sound on Dam at Otter Creak is unlike anything I've heard produced since and White, Discussion is one of the all-time great rock songs.
@@davebanfield6251 It's a shame that 90 percent of the people who bought Throwing Copper have probably never heard a single song off their best album (in our opinion, anyway). Mental Jewelry is superb, from start to finish. The Beauty of Gray is my favorite song of all-time. I saw Ed and the boys play a tiny club in Baltimore named Max's on Broadway in the spring of 1992. Definitely my most memorable concert experience ever. I was blown away by the depth/spirit/maturity of a bunch of 21 year-olds from small-town PA. I was in my late 20's at the time. I remember reading in a zine that some people were speculating that Ed's dad had written the lyrics to many of the songs, because of their maturity...and because he was their manager at the time, and traveled with the band. I'm sure that didn't last long. I didn't really follow their career much after that, other than hearing them on the radio and thinking how fortunate I was to see them in an unadulterated state. Lightning Crashes was brilliant--and the type of song I expected from them--but I didn't see that hard left-turn coming. And now I learn it was from all the fun and sun in Jamaica!
Throwing Copper was, and still is, one of my all-time fave albums. Drove alone from L.A. to Portland in 1995 and listened to that CD most of the way lol..All Over You never gets old..
I borrowed the album from the library long after I knew who this band was because of radio. I listened to it and it only took me the first time hearing it that I had to ask myself why didn't I get this album a long time ago when I used to go to record stores and shop for alternative music. It's a perfect 10 album.
I live in Ecuador, far from 1st world countries, and still in the 90s this album came out and we were all singing, even if we didin´t undestand the lyrics, Throwing Copper is a true musical gem of the alternative/grunge times.
They were big here in Phillipines too. Throwing copper and Secret Samadhi were everywhere when those two came out came out. Like almost all of my classmates had a cd or cassete tape of those records.
That's mainly because the clientele for their music was the truly political minded and issue minded with intelligence and style...those that don't hold the moral fiber to know politics do not like bands with an issue...much like the old(real)underground punk scene.
@@stevencorsoe9575 There is no bigger hypocritical fan base or music in general than punk. Just a bunch of kids lost in the sauce, whining about shit they don’t understand, shouting about being “radical” while doing nothing.
I grew up with Live, Nirvana, The Smashing Pumpkins, Metallica, and The Offspring - BUT Live was a spiritual experience through and through, I mourned the death of Kurt, and Throwing Copper album got me through the bad times, I LOVE Live they are amazing and will stay forever in my playlist and heart
@@mpf_agundipsht3619 Now I know you don't know what you are talking about. All the songs on NBs nineties albums ARE THE SAME FUCKING TEMPO. They couldn't write songs like I Alone or Iris or especially Lightning Crashes to save their life. Throwing Copper is one of the best albums of the 90s. My statement still stands.
Throwing Copper was one of those album where EVERY SINGLE SONG was good. Like, no skips, but all repeat worthy. I had like at most, 5 albums in all my life where I could actually do that
Same. Weezer Blue album Umm... wow I really have to think. It’s easy to come up with great ones like Pearl Jam Ten but there’s a few skips that exclude it
DSOTM, animals, wish u were here, the wall, ... Up To Here, road apples, Fully Completely, Day For Night, Smash for me as well, Throwing Copper for sure, but I'm just getting started, that's only 2 bands, lol. Bat out of Hell, Tommy, Zep II and IV, Metallica self titled debut, The Entertainer, Piano Man, Innocent Man, wild Cherry, Opiate, Legend, Could You Be Loved, Kind of Blue, Coltrane, In the Woods, Audioslave debut, Soundgarden's first, Thriller? ,lol ...... my brother would list 7 AC/DC albums, lmao. He carries them from car to house to office, lol... peace
Yes! Also for me were... Hybrid Theory - Linkin Park Get A Grip & Nine Lives - Aerosmith BSSM - RHCP B Sides - Soundgarden ADHD - Joyner Lucas Hotel Diablo - MGK Ten - Pearl Jam All over the place, I know, also not necessarily my favorite artists but the albums painted a picture for me in my mind listening to them and so they're on the list 🤷♀️
Yet another band in which one guy does a thing and the others sue, then years later they get over it and get back together. That's a relatively common theme, it seems.
@@robwalsh9843 well they made a whole album thats basically was about them not liking eachother lol hey the last single before that album was about them not liking eachother haha
I am amazed at how interesting these videos are to me. I am not a fan of a lot of the bands in your videos but it is still interesting to hear about their stories. Maybe even though these bands were not what I was into, it still gives me nostalgia of the time they are from.
The Dam at Otter Creek still raises goosebumps on my arms. Something about that haunting melody and the distorted vocals gets to me at 40 every bit as much as it did when I was 14.
I remember when Throwing Copper dropped in Australia everybody went nuts over it, it was like Thriller all over again, the songs are unique, it's definitely one of my "goosebump" albums.
I worked with the Bass players grandfather at Weis Markets in York Pa. They were very proud grandparents. Bud and his wife would wear LIVE shirts, hats, pins. They were proud the band made it big. I even think they had bumper stickers on there cars too. The 90s were a special time and Bud was great to work with.
Did you ever go clubbing at Big City? I was wondering if they ever would play a show there! I saw them at their album release party at the chameleon club. Somewhere I must have the little flyer they handed out to announce the show. I had also seen them when they were still Public Affection at the New Music Fest at Reservoir Park in Harrisburg. They played and another band named Suddenly Tammy played, and they got a bit of national attention for awhile.
@@inconnu4961 I never saw them in concert unfortunately. But I know a few years ago some if them members bought a building here in downtown York I think and were revitalizing it for artists I think?
@@Syclone0044 Bud and his wif were very proud of thier grandson making it big in a band. He was a pleasure to work with at Weis Markets. I miss those days in the 1990s
That's terrific. And yes, the 90s were a very special time; I am grateful to have grown up in time for that era to be my cultural foundation. The final decade of the era of innocence too. Re: York PA, I'm from Pittsburgh, and my best buddies band in '14-'15 played a tour stop in York and had a wild time, even including some sort of mansion party after. Wish I could recall the venue. York seems like a cool, funky town that's worth a visit.
This band never gets the recognition I personally believe they deserve. I saw them play back in 94 or 95 and they were just an all-around solid band! Throwing Copper is still one of the best albums ever made. Every song is good and I have a hard time saying that about any album.
The 90’s were awesome. You could be anything you wanted to be and nobody gave a shit. You could like anything you wanted to like and nobody gave a shit. It was a glorious time.
It was literally the opposite of that. You were either rock or dance. You could not like both,or else. I can't even think what would happen, you weren't even spat on, you just didn't do it (you were mocked). Then the 2010's happened, a beat became mainstream, and everyone lightened up. Now you can like whatever you want. And it's the best.
Live still rocks. Saw them and Bush play together in 2019 and it was like I was a teenager again! My son really enjoyed the show too which was awesome to see. They still put on a great live show and haven't lost a step.
Yeah....I need some empirical evidence on why the OK City bombing made Live famous. They were already huge (at least in my area) before that. Lots of claims, few references.
I was born in 1977 and Grunge was the epitome of my high school years but Live is and always has been my favorite band from that era - I'm so in the minority but I am so psyched to see them in a few weeks. I think they were low key influential with some of their songs off of Throwing Copper.
I like Green..is there supposed to be something wrong with it? Did I miss something back in the 90s?omg..I still remember listening to the catchy song "Spam"...brings back so many memories
Live is one of the most under appreciated bands in rock history. When I heard Lightning Crashes the first time I said I wanted it played at my funeral & I stand by that still. Live is my very best friend & my band. Not just a song... So many of them.
@@missmoxie9188 I was just thinking about these lyrics a few hours ago, and how they’re really great lyrics to open a song with. God damn man, Lakini’s Juice is such an excellent song
One of the absolutely best bands to see in a show. They are so damn good. Ed hits those notes perfectly. Live is not gone. They're still around and killing it.
Must have been a different LIVE, because the show I saw (late 90’s), Ed was so drunk, he couldn’t remember the lyrics. But, I’m glad you guys got the good shows.
It's a great song that defines the Band. They are indeed, Alternative Rock, but you hear 1980s Thrash Metal influence. They're a really heavy band with great lyrics too.
Saw them in 95 with PJ Harvey and Veruca Salt at an open air venue. Ed had such a charisma and stage presence that I couldn't help but just sit back and enjoy. Not my flavor of Rock per-se, but as a musician and music lover, goddamn...what a show, and well-written record!
By the way, "Local 717" is a Pennsylvanian thing. 717 is the area code for the York, Lancaster, and Harrisburg region, and simply referring to it as "717" is a common slang term.
A good band who earned every penny. They were victims of overexposure and paid dearly for it. Made some memorable songs with substance and hope they can do it again on the next effort. Love this channel!
Dude I used to hate 90s music but looking back, so much good music came out, an era that rivals 60s, 70s and 80s music pound for pound but may have been the last era to do so, mostly in part to the internet growing in the 2000s.
I'll never forget the first time I heard Throwing Copper. I was in high school and my girlfriend introduced me to it. The guitars and lyrics... My GOD - the sound.
I always thought the name 'Live' was very confusing for people. "What's the name of band?" "Oh, it's 'Live'." "I know they are playing live, what's the name of that band that is playing." "Right." "No. What? The name of the band that is playing live?" "That's right." "They're name is 'Right'?" "That's right, it's 'Live'." "So, the name is the band is actually 'Right'?" "Yes, you've got it. 'Live'?" "Okay, so let's go see 'Right'?" "Right? Yes, let's go see 'Live'." "Live?" "What?" "The band is live?" "Right." "No, the name of the band is not 'Right'?" "You've got it. It's 'Live'." "'Right' Live?" "'Live'." "What?" "Who?" "Live?" "What?" "Third base!"
This reminds me of that whole scene in "Purple Rain" with Morris Day and Jerome in their dressing room trying to come up with a secret code word when "Apollonia" came into the club! LOL :D
I remember typing their name in the search engine of all those music downloading sites. You would get live versions of every band known to man, but wouldn’t get a song from Live on there. I’d say their name helped to make them the least affected by the music sharing controversy back in the day.
Live are an amazing band. Throwing Copper is a soundtrack of my youth and The Distance to Here has one of my favourite songs of all time: Run to the Water.
I saw them live once as the opener for another band and even though I had always been indifferent to them, I have to admit that his voice was exceptional. Like… I was not expecting him to be that good at all.
This band was huge in '95. Typical for 90's bands, you don't hear their music any more. Meanwhile, Don't Stop Believin' made a comeback and '80s pop continues to go strong, and always will.
Their story is like your basic premise for a typical rock band movie; humble beginnings, surprising breakthrough, disillusioned success, record label sets them up for _the_ fight → the breakup → the reconciliation, the highly anticipated (but not as popular as once were) reunion on their early 40s and the comfortably average live gig in front of 100 people as the camera fades to credits. All jokes aside, nice story, I dig some of their stuff
My first live show was live.. Hard to tell people your first show was live.. It's a little confusing.. but what a great time to see the band with that throwing copper album
I saw them at the Peppermint Beach Club in Virginia Beach in 1991 during their Mental Jewelry tour. Ed is an incredible showman, he had the crowd in the palm of his hand. One of my favorite bands from the 90s.
Pretty great, kinda forgotten band save for "Lightning Crashes"" which to be honest is probably their worst single. Along with a little help from Tool they served to introduce young westerners, like myself, to concepts from the eastern religions. Dude has one helluva voice as well. One of the few mainstream bands from the period that didn't employ the "yarling" style of vocals, thank God. Sounded great when Eddie or Lane did it, but then came the parade of imitators, totalling the style by running it into the ground.
None of your pictures showed Kowalcyk with long hair. His hair was kind of a representation of metamorphosis within the Throwing Copper album. For the lead single "Selling the Drama" he's full long hair. For the "I Alone" video he had a bald head around the center which was a Hari Krishna type ponytail. By "Lightning Crashes" he was totally bald. It was meant to be noticed, but not many people do.
I saw Judas Priest when they were the opening act for Mahogany Rush and Halford had long hair and a white peasant blouse back then. Now most people have never heard of Frank Marino and Mahogany Rush.
I have zero respect for +LIVE+.... The way they treated Chris Shinn was awful. Even the record they made with him ("The Turn", funded by fans, btw) was pulled from their website when Ed rejoined. Shinn brought new life into the band only to be erased from the band's history.
Agreed, I was mixed about Ed returning, especially when he himself talked so much shit about the band after he left. Sure, great singer who sounds good, but holy shit, I would not allow money to cloud my judgment. Shinn was also a damn good fit with the band and The Turn was a damn good album. Wish they continued to work with him.
I read the court documents on the the lawsuit and the truth was that Ed (enabled by his manager) went full Axl Rose on the band. Ed wanted sole songwriting credit for all future Live material as well as on any reissues of the old albums. He had a million-dollar publishing deal in the works and he wanted to be able to show that he was the true creative force of the band. The other guys felt like they were owed their portion of that deal, and it ended up in court. It was pure greed on his part, and a disgusting thing to do to your childhood friends.
I was in high school in the first half of the 90s and wasn't into the "mainstream alternative" bands in general, but none drove me as nuts as Live. Ever since I saw that slow-mo video where their faux-rocking-out was so pronounced, I thought they were the biggest phonies on the scene. Pretending to look tortured doesn't make you a good band, my dudes. After a few decades I have come to appreciate many of those bands - The Smashing Pumpkins for one - but Live still just sounds like bogus JC Penny rock to me.
Actually. I’m sorry, that was kind of rude of me. I don’t like the band at all, but that doesn’t mean. You shouldn’t. For all I know it could be a song I’d love if someone else did it. Soooooo, I was out of line there sorry.
Lol this band was nothing more than glad in the pan or a one hit wonder. They only had fumes to ignite then simply burned out. Typical for the 90s. Basically same with all the previous decades here and gone bands. There’s a reason this band flopped. Simply couldn’t refuel the entire tank. This band reminds me of Dexy’s midnight riders. Made one hit and simply spazzed out.
I am a fan of Live since I was 8 years old and didn´t know any word word in English as a brazilian. Operation Spirit and Pain Lies on the Riverside were two of my favorite songs on the radio back then and I never stopped listening their music ever since.
If I had to choose between U2 and Live, I would choose Live. They Might Be Giants, Flood is, perhaps, my favorite 90s album. TMBG is such an unusual group with a singular origin story. Also, their message is fairly positive. Build a Little Birdhouse In Your Soul.
I grew up with grunge, loving Pearl Jam, but Live was at the top of my fav bands list. Always looked forward to their album releases. Solid rock band, amazing vocal range, inspiring music with heart. Hope they’re all doing well these days.
A lot of people slag on Ed for asking for more royalties...but I am a guy who writes 95% of the songs for his band....splitting things evenly is NOT fair. You spend months perfecting a lyric, and chord change, a melody....while the rest of the band is having BBQ, going on vacations. Lazy people don't realize how hard it is to write a song.
I don't understand how someone wouldn't want to be involved in the songwriting. I'm the bassist in my band and have a really large hand in the songwriting...my bandmates see me as a freak due to my synesthetic perfect pitch (in a good way). But also, the way we write is very open. Everything is for the song and not the ego.
Makes perfect sense for a kid wanting to be in a band with his Junior High buddies circa 1984 to audition with a Duran Duran song! Also good 80's business sense for financing a business venture with Junk Bond sales! And yes, "Throwing Copper" was a must listen album in my middle school years.
this was one of the most requested bands on my google form. To submit requests use the google form here. docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScCQjTcPGrzUbG7H7t4toQehliwBS_Fcp78JeY_js4zZbX2jA/viewform
Submitted one for Counting Crows. Love the 90's and that band sticks out to me.
I'm surprised that the monstrous success of the song "I Alone" was pushed Live over the top of the music charts(and was a major contribution to their success) wasn't mentioned.
Thanks for uploading this! I saw Live when they were touring with Counting Crows back in 2018 and they put on a good show. Glad Live got back together
Great video as always my brother!!!!!!!
@@brucelee4996 He generally does, hes just like alot of us busy all the time. But I do promise he does appreciate you. Give him time.
I remember 95-96, when "Throwing Copper" was like THE album to get, along with Bush's Sixteen Stone and Alanis' Jagged Little Pill. That was like the 90s alt rock survival kit.
shoutout to Columbia House hehe
@Christopher Bingham Then you can alternate it out with "Smash" by the Offspring, that was another album that I saw a lot of my friends had at the time.
@@JasonNation72 I remember everyone in the Bay area fucking HATING the Offspring for being shitty false punk. Kinda ironic that we loved Green day so much but they were 100* the band Offspring ever were. Especially at that time.
What's crazy to me is that Jagged Little Pill outsold anything Madonna ever released. And Britney Spears.
@Christopher Bingham they both are lmfao. Calling one not vs the other just shows you know nothing. The Offspring are genuinely the worst band to ever come out and be lumped into punk. At least Green Day made a couple good songs back in the day. Can't say that for Offspring.
Their bass player rents my buddies fishing cabin every year...they came to see my band at the height of fame...nice guys.
Chad Taylor came to see my bands album release in 2007. Pretty cool experience
He's one of the most under-rated bass players in rock music. His lines on Secret Samadi are exceptional.
@@musiclighthouse1913 My dad is friends with Chad's grandfather. He was hanging out with him one day, and Chad stopped by in a Dodge Viper. Dad told Chad I was a fan, and he pulled a Live pin out of his pocket and gave it to my dad to give to me. I always thought that was cool of him.
They are a great band
Like 3 months ago I was asking my jam buddy why we didn't fan boy out over their bass lines; all he could say was there was a lot of other good stuff from the time. Makes sense but it's a shame. Damn fine bass work.
Throwing Copper is a solid album from start to finish.
So is Secret Samadhi. Two of the most underrated albums of the nineties.
Amen brother! Couldn't have said it better myself. Love from So. Cal.😊
Truth.
Exactly. You definitely don’t skip song on that album🤘🏽😎🤘🏽
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....that means you don't agree.
Throwing Copper is a timeless masterpiece!
Why does nobody else prefer Secret Samadhi? It's far better. So dark, so emotional.
@@christopherbishop2055 I gave it a chance.. It just doesn't have the same efficiency or energy.. Imo.
@@st.albans5560 Secret Samadhi has a completely original "light in the darkness vibe", or "hippies gone goth" vibe which i've never heard in any other record.
It sounds like a mix between Throwing Copper + The Distance to Here
but what really makes it cool is that vibe I described last paragraph. I think it's their best one.
Throwing copper was the reason i followed the band. Lightning crashes was an epic song that cemented my allegiance to the band. I still listen to both today.
Throwing Copper is an unbelievably mature record for a band that had only made one record, and were just basically young men. It's one of the greatest records of all time.
Throwing copper was their third record and they have released plenty of records after throwing copper
I wore out that CD back in the day.. One of my favorite bands. LIghtning crashes always getz me.
Seriously one of the best albums OAT!
Downward spiral and Dirt
Agreed!
Throwing Copper is one hell of an album. Some of the unreleased tracks are better than the singles, and even the hidden track is fantastic. It holds up.
it's been probably 25 years since I listened to Throwing Copper all the way through. Isn't the hidden track basically a country song?
Hold Me Up was an amazing b-side! I’m so glad that they officially released it
@@nascarsteve That's the one. "Horse."
I really like Waitress.
She rode a horse into my head...and I feel fine
Beavis and Butthead mocking the I Alone video was classic.
"Hey Beavis....he's checking you out"
😂😂😂😂😂
"He's like.....'I like what I see...I'll be right over'"
Is that the same one where they say the drummer forget his drums so he's just running around in the video?
I like the Henry Rollins videos they riff on
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I had never heard of them until I saw them open for another band. He sang his heart out. When they played Lightning Crashes I fell apart and had to go to the bathroom to stop crying. I had a miscarriage 4 months before. I think that song is beautiful and speaks to women more and anyone who has lost a child or their wife or girlfriend in childbirth. Say what you want about the rest of their music, but that song is very special.
You're right. Thanks for sharing ☺️
@@r.edward5701 thank you🌷
Wow that's deep. 😥
So sorry for your loss friend. That song is so powerful, in a league of it's own that will never be touched.
"Lightning Crashes" is as close to a mystical experience as I've had in not-overtly-religious music.
Throwing Copper is one of the ten greatest albums ever recorded. The sound on Dam at Otter Creak is unlike anything I've heard produced since and White, Discussion is one of the all-time great rock songs.
You rarely hear anyone say much about White, Discussion. But I swear, that song is a scorcher!
You should get into thier first album, Mental Jewelry. It's by far their best work.
@@davebanfield6251 It's a shame that 90 percent of the people who bought Throwing Copper have probably never heard a single song off their best album (in our opinion, anyway). Mental Jewelry is superb, from start to finish. The Beauty of Gray is my favorite song of all-time. I saw Ed and the boys play a tiny club in Baltimore named Max's on Broadway in the spring of 1992. Definitely my most memorable concert experience ever. I was blown away by the depth/spirit/maturity of a bunch of 21 year-olds from small-town PA. I was in my late 20's at the time. I remember reading in a zine that some people were speculating that Ed's dad had written the lyrics to many of the songs, because of their maturity...and because he was their manager at the time, and traveled with the band. I'm sure that didn't last long. I didn't really follow their career much after that, other than hearing them on the radio and thinking how fortunate I was to see them in an unadulterated state. Lightning Crashes was brilliant--and the type of song I expected from them--but I didn't see that hard left-turn coming. And now I learn it was from all the fun and sun in Jamaica!
I like secret samadhi better tbh.
Lakini's Juice is a masterpiece
I ALONE WAS A KICK-ASS TUNE
Throwing Copper was, and still is, one of my all-time fave albums. Drove alone from L.A. to Portland in 1995 and listened to that CD most of the way lol..All Over You never gets old..
i burned myself out on that album, but it was really good at the time.
@@zipzip8239 , yea, All Over You, and I Alone get old quick! But White Discussion went hard!
Coming from a small city in the same regional area as Pennsylvania, Shit Town hits different.
I love Throwing Copper as well I had it in my mid 20’s.
I borrowed the album from the library long after I knew who this band was because of radio. I listened to it and it only took me the first time hearing it that I had to ask myself why didn't I get this album a long time ago when I used to go to record stores and shop for alternative music. It's a perfect 10 album.
I live in Ecuador, far from 1st world countries, and still in the 90s this album came out and we were all singing, even if we didin´t undestand the lyrics, Throwing Copper is a true musical gem of the alternative/grunge times.
I'm surprised they didn't touch on their huge overseas fan base.
They were big here in Phillipines too. Throwing copper and Secret Samadhi were everywhere when those two came out came out. Like almost all of my classmates had a cd or cassete tape of those records.
@@ratatgp3926 yep
Brazil is a first world country...goof
Good long story. And no one died or became a drug or alcohol addict. Good for them.
That's mainly because the clientele for their music was the truly political minded and issue minded with intelligence and style...those that don't hold the moral fiber to know politics do not like bands with an issue...much like the old(real)underground punk scene.
Steve, at some point you have to take a break from politics
Sorry...force of habit.I grew up in the late 70s with the original punk scene...Minor Threat,JFA,Dead Kennedies...etc. etc.Just a strong attribute.
Pbly part of why they sucked.
@@stevencorsoe9575 There is no bigger hypocritical fan base or music in general than punk. Just a bunch of kids lost in the sauce, whining about shit they don’t understand, shouting about being “radical” while doing nothing.
I grew up with Live, Nirvana, The Smashing Pumpkins, Metallica, and The Offspring - BUT Live was a spiritual experience through and through, I mourned the death of Kurt, and Throwing Copper album got me through the bad times, I LOVE Live they are amazing and will stay forever in my playlist and heart
I always loved "When Dolphins Cry".
Great song.
Me too I only just remembered that song today....
I remember thinking the rest of the album sucked though....
@@Matanumi run to the water
This was the first FM freindly song i heard
(After listening to Pantera sepultura slayer etc) That was hard yet allowed to let on radio
Love the song musically but the lyrics and the video lol Spinal Tap level of embarrassing.
@@markieffmorris9263 Is that... is that Voldemort?
Lakinis Juice kicked ass. One of my favorite late 90s songs.
Man that song is definitely one of there best highly underated
weird video tho....
great guitar sound
Totally, dude!!!!!!! Secret Samadhi *NEVER* got the airplay it deserved.
@@robwalsh9843 Freaks was weirder
Throwing Copper was one of the best albums of the 90s, hands down.
yeah nah kyuss has far better albums, shit even Sepultura had better albums
@@mpf_agundipsht3619 OK, but don't be vague. Name a specific album better than this one from whoever.
@@ankhor9252 basically any rock album including nicklebacks ………. Doesn’t get clearer than that
@@mpf_agundipsht3619 Now I know you don't know what you are talking about. All the songs on NBs nineties albums ARE THE SAME FUCKING TEMPO. They couldn't write songs like I Alone or Iris or especially Lightning Crashes to save their life. Throwing Copper is one of the best albums of the 90s. My statement still stands.
... best album that killed the 90's...
For true best albums of the "90's" see:
At the Drive-in
Murder City Devils
Burzum
Love Pain Lies On The Riverside. Excellent song.
Their best album
Bought mental jewelery after throwing copper and was in for life afterwards. Secret samidi was nothing short of genious.
Best album by far
How does nobody mention, "I, Alone???" The lyrics are pure poetry!
Beautiful... so deep and the chorus 👌
Pure narcissism.
@@matboyrd Mmmm how does that taste
@@nolesy34 troll
@@matboyrd yes we have to watch out for them... very annoying like a rick roll but Why... whyuuy
Throwing Copper was one of those album where EVERY SINGLE SONG was good. Like, no skips, but all repeat worthy. I had like at most, 5 albums in all my life where I could actually do that
Same.
Weezer Blue album
Umm... wow I really have to think. It’s easy to come up with great ones like Pearl Jam Ten but there’s a few skips that exclude it
For me, Offspring Ignition and Smash were like that. Also Greenday Dookie.
I think I need to reviist Live.
DSOTM, animals, wish u were here, the wall, ... Up To Here, road apples, Fully Completely, Day For Night, Smash for me as well, Throwing Copper for sure, but I'm just getting started, that's only 2 bands, lol. Bat out of Hell, Tommy, Zep II and IV, Metallica self titled debut, The Entertainer, Piano Man, Innocent Man, wild Cherry, Opiate, Legend, Could You Be Loved, Kind of Blue, Coltrane, In the Woods, Audioslave debut, Soundgarden's first, Thriller? ,lol ...... my brother would list 7 AC/DC albums, lmao. He carries them from car to house to office, lol... peace
Yes! Also for me were...
Hybrid Theory - Linkin Park
Get A Grip & Nine Lives - Aerosmith
BSSM - RHCP
B Sides - Soundgarden
ADHD - Joyner Lucas
Hotel Diablo - MGK
Ten - Pearl Jam
All over the place, I know, also not necessarily my favorite artists but the albums painted a picture for me in my mind listening to them and so they're on the list 🤷♀️
Downward spiral and Dirt
Throwing Copper is a masterpiece
Yet another band in which one guy does a thing and the others sue, then years later they get over it and get back together. That's a relatively common theme, it seems.
MONEY
Although it never happened with Creedence Clearwater Revival. Sometimes the bad blood runs too deep.
@@robwalsh9843 well they made a whole album thats basically was about them not liking eachother lol hey the last single before that album was about them not liking eachother haha
Lol lead singers are so damn bitchy.
Hindsight
White, Discussion is still a song I return to often.
Epic tune, for sure
"Look where all this talking got us, baby."
And this'll be what we said!
Haven’t heard anything like it since. Epic.
my favorite song by live
I am amazed at how interesting these videos are to me. I am not a fan of a lot of the bands in your videos but it is still interesting to hear about their stories. Maybe even though these bands were not what I was into, it still gives me nostalgia of the time they are from.
The Dam at Otter Creek still raises goosebumps on my arms. Something about that haunting melody and the distorted vocals gets to me at 40 every bit as much as it did when I was 14.
Awesome song agree with you 100%
About the same age too. Right there with you bro
Story goes, CT was just playing around on his guitar (the intro) and EK told him to not stop playing!!! There you go, lead track on Throwing Copper.
I remember when Throwing Copper dropped in Australia everybody went nuts over it, it was like Thriller all over again, the songs are unique, it's definitely one of my "goosebump" albums.
It's surprising to me there was a falling out. They seem so mature and wise. I'm glad it didn't last long.
Brad Krekelberg...Presidio of Monterey, '95-'96?
Seems inevitable when creative people grow up and grow in different directions. Sad though. Live was awesome.
I worked with the Bass players grandfather at Weis Markets in York Pa. They were very proud grandparents. Bud and his wife would wear LIVE shirts, hats, pins. They were proud the band made it big. I even think they had bumper stickers on there cars too.
The 90s were a special time and Bud was great to work with.
Did you ever go clubbing at Big City? I was wondering if they ever would play a show there! I saw them at their album release party at the chameleon club. Somewhere I must have the little flyer they handed out to announce the show. I had also seen them when they were still Public Affection at the New Music Fest at Reservoir Park in Harrisburg. They played and another band named Suddenly Tammy played, and they got a bit of national attention for awhile.
@@inconnu4961 I never saw them in concert unfortunately. But I know a few years ago some if them members bought a building here in downtown York I think and were revitalizing it for artists I think?
Wow wtf youre the 2nd dude to comment about the bass player’s grandfather handing out pins for the band to casual acquaintances!
@@Syclone0044 Bud and his wif were very proud of thier grandson making it big in a band. He was a pleasure to work with at Weis Markets. I miss those days in the 1990s
That's terrific. And yes, the 90s were a very special time; I am grateful to have grown up in time for that era to be my cultural foundation. The final decade of the era of innocence too. Re: York PA, I'm from Pittsburgh, and my best buddies band in '14-'15 played a tour stop in York and had a wild time, even including some sort of mansion party after. Wish I could recall the venue. York seems like a cool, funky town that's worth a visit.
"I Alone" is still my fav of theirs👍🏾
That song jams hard. Loads of dynamics on that album.
YEAH, YEAH, YEAH!!
Just listened to it yesterday!! 👍🏻😎
This band never gets the recognition I personally believe they deserve. I saw them play back in 94 or 95 and they were just an all-around solid band! Throwing Copper is still one of the best albums ever made. Every song is good and I have a hard time saying that about any album.
I friggin love Live. Lightening Crashes is one of the most beautiful, sad songs, as well as the music video.
I literally wore out my cassette copy of Mental Jewelry in 1992.
Throwing copper is in my top 25 rock albums of all time
Agreed for sure
Do you mind telling the 24 other albums?
What's your top 5?
The 90’s were awesome. You could be anything you wanted to be and nobody gave a shit. You could like anything you wanted to like and nobody gave a shit. It was a glorious time.
I take it you didn't live them?
It was literally the opposite of that. You were either rock or dance. You could not like both,or else. I can't even think what would happen, you weren't even spat on, you just didn't do it (you were mocked). Then the 2010's happened, a beat became mainstream, and everyone lightened up. Now you can like whatever you want. And it's the best.
@@Cheeseburger.Launch.Sequence Ha good one.
Live still rocks. Saw them and Bush play together in 2019 and it was like I was a teenager again! My son really enjoyed the show too which was awesome to see. They still put on a great live show and haven't lost a step.
As wonderful as Throwing Copper is and ever shall be, Secret Samadhi is also a great album. It is very dark and haunting and the bass is hypnotic.
very underrated- Love Rattlesnake.
Man, Throwing Copper was such a solid album. I remember listening to that all the time in the car.
Robert Christgau is one of the most confused "rock journalists" I've ever read.
Yeah....I need some empirical evidence on why the OK City bombing made Live famous. They were already huge (at least in my area) before that. Lots of claims, few references.
Imo Throwing Copper is one of the greatest albums of all time. From start to finish, every single song is great.
I was born in 1977 and Grunge was the epitome of my high school years but Live is and always has been my favorite band from that era - I'm so in the minority but I am so psyched to see them in a few weeks. I think they were low key influential with some of their songs off of Throwing Copper.
the candlebox album released in the 00s kicked ass
Throwing Cooper was epic. Also loved Lakini’s Juice and Turn My Head from Secret Samadhi.
Throwing Copper and REM’s Green made up the bulk of used cds in their respective alphabet order at the record stores at the end of the 90s.
Throw in Spin Doctors "Pocket Full of Kryptonite", Alanis Morrisette "Jagged Little Pill" and Ace of Base into the overpiled used CD bin :)
I like Green..is there supposed to be something wrong with it? Did I miss something back in the 90s?omg..I still remember listening to the catchy song "Spam"...brings back so many memories
You sure you're not thinking of R.E.M.s Monster? Rarely saw Green in used bins...always saw several copies of Monster.
I love both of those CDs.
Didn’t most CDs? Being they started become irrelevant around 2000? I don’t think I’ve even bought a cd once since the internet became available.
Live is one of the most under appreciated bands in rock history. When I heard Lightning Crashes the first time I said I wanted it played at my funeral & I stand by that still. Live is my very best friend & my band. Not just a song... So many of them.
“Lakini’s Juice” will always be a criminally underrated song
That's how I feel about "dance with you."
Their greatest song, imo. Still play it often
It was an evening I shared with the sun...
@@missmoxie9188 I was just thinking about these lyrics a few hours ago, and how they’re really great lyrics to open a song with.
God damn man, Lakini’s Juice is such an excellent song
The staccato riff for Lakini's Juice has been stuck in my head since I was a kid. It is definitely their best song.
The singer had a bit of a messiah complex, that didn’t fly because the songs weren’t good enough to ignore it
Don’t forget about Turn My Head. What a fantastic ballad.
loved that song!
Agreed
Oh, it was great. I'm going to listen to it NOW. Thanks mate.
I saw them in 2019 with Our Lady Peace and Bush
Combine the bands and its "piece of our ladys bush"
How was the Monsters of Mediocrity fest?
That definitely reminds me of my 7th grade year.
@@tytytytyty811 LOL
@@tytytytyty811 surprised Creed wasnt there.
Who likes their song, "All Over You"? It's my favorite.
@Commie Hunter I like this comment. Can I hang with u guys?
One of the absolutely best bands to see in a show. They are so damn good. Ed hits those notes perfectly. Live is not gone. They're still around and killing it.
I saw them in concert many years ago, they were amazing live!!
Must have been a different LIVE, because the show I saw (late 90’s), Ed was so drunk, he couldn’t remember the lyrics.
But, I’m glad you guys got the good shows.
Throwing Copper is a seminal album in my life, and it still holds up. Secret Samadhi is also pretty good.
I Alone is still a BANGER and that video is great!
It's a great song that defines the Band. They are indeed, Alternative Rock, but you hear 1980s Thrash Metal influence. They're a really heavy band with great lyrics too.
Saw them in 95 with PJ Harvey and Veruca Salt at an open air venue. Ed had such a charisma and stage presence that I couldn't help but just sit back and enjoy. Not my flavor of Rock per-se, but as a musician and music lover, goddamn...what a show, and well-written record!
By the way, "Local 717" is a Pennsylvanian thing. 717 is the area code for the York, Lancaster, and Harrisburg region, and simply referring to it as "717" is a common slang term.
Yes. I think most of us put that together.
Thanks for the 411
@@brettcooper3893 LOL
When i was living in the area back in the 80's and early 90's, we referred to it as ' South Central"!
I lived in York for a year and a certain lyric in shit Towne made a lot of sense when I lived on princess st.
A good band who earned every penny. They were victims of overexposure and paid dearly for it. Made some memorable songs with substance and hope they can do it again on the next effort. Love this channel!
Pain Lies on the Riverside has everything anyone would ever need from a song.
I love beat at the beginning
Yep. Great track.
Absolutely, what a GREAT Song !
The music of the 90's good or bad is better than the pop rock commercial pile of 💩 polluting the airways today. ✝️ RIP 🎸🥁 🎤🔊 🎶
Nah you just don't know where to look
@@upthewolfs2347 you shouldn’t have to look under a rock to find anything but garbage music that’s playing today.
Dude I used to hate 90s music but looking back, so much good music came out, an era that rivals 60s, 70s and 80s music pound for pound but may have been the last era to do so, mostly in part to the internet growing in the 2000s.
"When Dolphins Cry" was such a fun song to learn the guitar for, actually made me start liking the band
I'll never forget the first time I heard Throwing Copper. I was in high school and my girlfriend introduced me to it. The guitars and lyrics... My GOD - the sound.
Thank you for doing this video , live is my favorite group and I’ve often wondered how they got their start ! Awesome Channel !
Man that singer. I can't believe how he could sing that well and run Amazon at the same time.
Lol
Amazon prime qualludes
I thought he was winning tennis titles
I always thought the name 'Live' was very confusing for people.
"What's the name of band?"
"Oh, it's 'Live'."
"I know they are playing live, what's the name of that band that is playing."
"Right."
"No. What? The name of the band that is playing live?"
"That's right."
"They're name is 'Right'?"
"That's right, it's 'Live'."
"So, the name is the band is actually 'Right'?"
"Yes, you've got it. 'Live'?"
"Okay, so let's go see 'Right'?"
"Right? Yes, let's go see 'Live'."
"Live?"
"What?"
"The band is live?"
"Right."
"No, the name of the band is not 'Right'?"
"You've got it. It's 'Live'."
"'Right' Live?"
"'Live'."
"What?"
"Who?"
"Live?"
"What?"
"Third base!"
This reminds me of that whole scene in "Purple Rain" with Morris Day and Jerome in their dressing room trying to come up with a secret code word when "Apollonia" came into the club! LOL :D
I remember typing their name in the search engine of all those music downloading sites. You would get live versions of every band known to man, but wouldn’t get a song from Live on there. I’d say their name helped to make them the least affected by the music sharing controversy back in the day.
It certainly didn't help when you had to search them on Napster or Spotify.
I was in a band once called “Cancelled”. Nobody ever turned up to our gigs.
Live are an amazing band. Throwing Copper is a soundtrack of my youth and The Distance to Here has one of my favourite songs of all time: Run to the Water.
Zero mention about Ed actually being Andre Agassi and having that tennis career going on during their entire run.
Was looking for this one 😂
🤣🤣🤣
I saw them live once as the opener for another band and even though I had always been indifferent to them, I have to admit that his voice was exceptional. Like… I was not expecting him to be that good at all.
This band was huge in '95. Typical for 90's bands, you don't hear their music any more. Meanwhile, Don't Stop Believin' made a comeback and '80s pop continues to go strong, and always will.
Jeff Bezo's secret side project.
Seriously! Who has ever seen Jeff and Ed in the same room?!
Garth Brooks and Chris Gaines thing??? Hmm. Bezos wishes he was ever that cool. Lol
@@c.braley9915 don’t forget Billy Corgan and Kristin Dunst!
I remember what happened...people realized that they actually suck. Boring ass adult contemporary alternative.
They seemingly dropped off radar after Secret Samadhi. Glad they're still around.
I used to listen to The Distance Is Here on repeat. I still know all the songs on that album.
@@robertapascal6962 "The Distance To Here", but yeah, solid album
Secret is their best album.
.. They've had other good stuff, but they've never topped it. I still spin the CD.
Secret Samadhi and The Distance To Here were both tremendous albums IMO.
@@analystzorncasteel3047 Secret Samadhi is by far their best.
Imagine relating to U2.... you should be on some government list of possible murderers or psychopaths for that kind of public statement.
I love so many of their songs, one of my favorites is the song Runaway, featuring Shelby Lynn
That is such an amazing song and she sounds great on it also
Their story is like your basic premise for a typical rock band movie; humble beginnings, surprising breakthrough, disillusioned success, record label sets them up for _the_ fight → the breakup → the reconciliation, the highly anticipated (but not as popular as once were) reunion on their early 40s and the comfortably average live gig in front of 100 people as the camera fades to credits. All jokes aside, nice story, I dig some of their stuff
Patrick h willems did a great deep dive video on all those tropes that feature in literally every music biopic movie.
Lighting Crashes is such a great song
It is too sappy for me. But I understand people feel attached to it
I hated these guys in the 90’s but they grew on me over the years like a lot of bands from that time.
So did i but they never really grew on me.
Me too. Always liked "I alone" tho
I’m the opposite loved them in the 90s and think their garbage in 2021
I hated a lot of these “post grunge” bands
They fell into a sub genre I liked to call “bore core”.
My first live show was live.. Hard to tell people your first show was live.. It's a little confusing.. but what a great time to see the band with that throwing copper album
Same here. 1995 in Ann Arbor, MI.
I saw them at the Peppermint Beach Club in Virginia Beach in 1991 during their Mental Jewelry tour. Ed is an incredible showman, he had the crowd in the palm of his hand. One of my favorite bands from the 90s.
They were horrible
Yup
Still are, but thats my opinion
@@daBEAGLE1017 Yep, I could never get into their sound. Don't know if they suck or they're just not my style but either way, they suck to me.
@@AbsyntheAndTears possible that youre a metal fan or grunge.
Imfao, Live is Fem Rock.
Saw live in 2018? If all they ever wrote was Lightening Crashes, then job well done
Pretty great, kinda forgotten band save for "Lightning Crashes"" which to be honest is probably their worst single. Along with a little help from Tool they served to introduce young westerners, like myself, to concepts from the eastern religions. Dude has one helluva voice as well. One of the few mainstream bands from the period that didn't employ the "yarling" style of vocals, thank God. Sounded great when Eddie or Lane did it, but then came the parade of imitators, totalling the style by running it into the ground.
Blame it on Fuel. Everyone after them desperately were trying to emulate that.
@@LiquidDIO what? Really? How?
Man nu metal.... shifted alt rock for sure...
One of the most underrated bands of ROCK if u put throwing copper on every song is amazing
Tyler Johnson of Sac Town?
None of your pictures showed Kowalcyk with long hair. His hair was kind of a representation of metamorphosis within the Throwing Copper album. For the lead single "Selling the Drama" he's full long hair. For the "I Alone" video he had a bald head around the center which was a Hari Krishna type ponytail. By "Lightning Crashes" he was totally bald. It was meant to be noticed, but not many people do.
Maynard James Keenan was going through a similar hair-related metamorphosis during that time as well
I saw Judas Priest when they were the opening act for Mahogany Rush and Halford had long hair and a white peasant blouse back then. Now most people have never heard of Frank Marino and Mahogany Rush.
this band was on fire for about 2 or 3 years
bunch of great songs in that span
I hated these guys in the 90's and nothing has changed. I thank heaven that they've stopped playing their noise on free to air radio.
I have zero respect for +LIVE+.... The way they treated Chris Shinn was awful. Even the record they made with him ("The Turn", funded by fans, btw) was pulled from their website when Ed rejoined. Shinn brought new life into the band only to be erased from the band's history.
Agreed, I was mixed about Ed returning, especially when he himself talked so much shit about the band after he left. Sure, great singer who sounds good, but holy shit, I would not allow money to cloud my judgment. Shinn was also a damn good fit with the band and The Turn was a damn good album. Wish they continued to work with him.
I read the court documents on the the lawsuit and the truth was that Ed (enabled by his manager) went full Axl Rose on the band. Ed wanted sole songwriting credit for all future Live material as well as on any reissues of the old albums. He had a million-dollar publishing deal in the works and he wanted to be able to show that he was the true creative force of the band. The other guys felt like they were owed their portion of that deal, and it ended up in court.
It was pure greed on his part, and a disgusting thing to do to your childhood friends.
I was in high school in the first half of the 90s and wasn't into the "mainstream alternative" bands in general, but none drove me as nuts as Live. Ever since I saw that slow-mo video where their faux-rocking-out was so pronounced, I thought they were the biggest phonies on the scene. Pretending to look tortured doesn't make you a good band, my dudes. After a few decades I have come to appreciate many of those bands - The Smashing Pumpkins for one - but Live still just sounds like bogus JC Penny rock to me.
Am I the only one who thinks their song Ghost from album 'Secret Samadhi' is an alt rock masterpiece.
Hell yeah! It's one of their best songs!
@@esukyd2328 I agree.
I always thought Pillar of Davidson was a masterpiece too
Yes I’m fairly sure you are
Actually. I’m sorry, that was kind of rude of me. I don’t like the band at all, but that doesn’t mean. You shouldn’t. For all I know it could be a song I’d love if someone else did it. Soooooo, I was out of line there sorry.
Lol this band was nothing more than glad in the pan or a one hit wonder. They only had fumes to ignite then simply burned out. Typical for the 90s. Basically same with all the previous decades here and gone bands. There’s a reason this band flopped. Simply couldn’t refuel the entire tank. This band reminds me of Dexy’s midnight riders. Made one hit and simply spazzed out.
Two really good albums, but didn't have the songs to sustain themselves after '95.
They sucked, end of story.
In your opinion. Lol. People don’t get opinions are facts.
@@robertapascal6962 "people dont get opinions are facts". yup it is indeed a fact that this band sucked ass.
They don't suck, kiss sucks
'Sweet Release' is a killer song from 'Birds of Prey'. It was released as a single only in Australia. I still have it on my iPod.
I never related them to U2 nor REM. This guys were beyond grunge, great band.
Alternative Rock with the heavy hand of Thrash Metal. Great Band.
I can't believe I ever listened to this band.
Every single Song from them is absolutely amazing. All of their CDs are just outstanding
I've always thought Distance was their best album. Highly underrated IMO.
I'm with you. I love The Distance To Here
It's a good one
Absolutely
I am a fan of Live since I was 8 years old and didn´t know any word word in English as a brazilian. Operation Spirit and Pain Lies on the Riverside were two of my favorite songs on the radio back then and I never stopped listening their music ever since.
Throwing Copper is an excellent album!
It is so horrible.
I'd like to throw copper into the crapper! Lol...depressing and bland...along with the spin doctors...
Live, Our Lady Peace and Bush were on tour together?! Man, I would have loved to see that 90s headline mashup!
If I had to choose between U2 and Live, I would choose Live.
They Might Be Giants, Flood is, perhaps, my favorite 90s album. TMBG is such an unusual group with a singular origin story. Also, their message is fairly positive.
Build a Little Birdhouse In Your Soul.
I grew up with grunge, loving Pearl Jam, but Live was at the top of my fav bands list. Always looked forward to their album releases. Solid rock band, amazing vocal range, inspiring music with heart.
Hope they’re all doing well these days.
A lot of people slag on Ed for asking for more royalties...but I am a guy who writes 95% of the songs for his band....splitting things evenly is NOT fair. You spend months perfecting a lyric, and chord change, a melody....while the rest of the band is having BBQ, going on vacations. Lazy people don't realize how hard it is to write a song.
I don't understand how someone wouldn't want to be involved in the songwriting. I'm the bassist in my band and have a really large hand in the songwriting...my bandmates see me as a freak due to my synesthetic perfect pitch (in a good way). But also, the way we write is very open. Everything is for the song and not the ego.
Makes perfect sense for a kid wanting to be in a band with his Junior High buddies circa 1984 to audition with a Duran Duran song!
Also good 80's business sense for financing a business venture with Junk Bond sales!
And yes, "Throwing Copper" was a must listen album in my middle school years.