What is the best $60 "beater" watch? Loreo vs Invicta Pro Diver Comparison

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  • @rafaeldiaz7636
    @rafaeldiaz7636 4 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    Have to disagree on the packaging, Invicta actually comes with a fairly nice box for the price and the Loreo comes with a generic Chinese box

    • @inventor1v
      @inventor1v 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yeah but are you gonna wear the box?

    • @MikeAustin2012
      @MikeAustin2012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh hell yea! Yellow has to be my least favorite colour but, Invictas boxes are very strong and nicely made.. Only 2 i bought came with a chamis. I'd swear it's suede. As is the pillow and box lining. I use one to clean my expensive Nikon lemses
      The box my Loreo came in isn't close to what he shows. Just cardboard

    • @stevefrommars
      @stevefrommars 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Garry M 😭

    • @tjwright
      @tjwright 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But no $1 plastic pin remover! :-) I think most watch enthusiasts who will buy even an inexpensive watch like one of these (I say enthusiasts because they aren't quartz watches) will probably have a few tools to size the bracelet already.

    • @Cricri761000
      @Cricri761000 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the Invicta (and the Loreo too), but I must admit that this shiny yellow box disturbs me.

  • @frankly5171
    @frankly5171 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I have been collecting high end Swiss and German watches in addition to Grand Seiko for decades and I am shocked by the quality that Invicta offers at the ridiculously low price !
    Especially when it houses a Seiko movement.

    • @abhisheknarayandhyani731
      @abhisheknarayandhyani731 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This shows how much the big brands are looting us....Rolex sub should $3000 its cost of making is about $1250 even considering its history....

  • @TheGoodwolfe
    @TheGoodwolfe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The sapphire crystal is a nice bonus on the Loreo, but at this price point, it's really all about the movement. That Seiko NH35 in the Invicta wins because is reliable, accurate, hacks & hand winds, and used in many new micro brands today and selling for as much as $400 (or more). That said, with 200m WR, either of these two would be worth another $30 bucks to most with the NH35 AND Sapphire!

  • @edteach3r
    @edteach3r 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Amongst all my favourite Seikos and Hamiltons, my Mickey Mouse Invicta diver gets lots of wrist time... and generates the best response from my students 😀.

  • @phillipesmart
    @phillipesmart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I have the Invicta, and am very happy with it.

  • @thewatchnoob7880
    @thewatchnoob7880 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great Video Brotha! I have that Same exact pro diver, it’s been an excellent watch, and I definitely agree with your comparison points.

  • @thehistoryprof6750
    @thehistoryprof6750 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    FYI, Appears the Invicta cyclops magnifies the date better. Well done review !

  • @victorfalz1713
    @victorfalz1713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Great review I completely agree Invicta hands down

  • @johnpettinelli7319
    @johnpettinelli7319 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job
    So pleased that I agree as I just purchased the Invicta.
    We’ll see how it works out.

  • @BourbonDrinker
    @BourbonDrinker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review. I have been a fan of Invicta since 2003 when I received an Invicta as a gift. I just bought the Pro Diver and really like it.

  • @jimsound7888
    @jimsound7888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a proud owner of an Invicta pro diver and love it

  • @chrislight4325
    @chrislight4325 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I like the invicta. It's a fun watch that you can wear everywhere and not stress about damaging it. It feels good on my wrist as well. Some of their stuff is kind of spoofy, but people who know watches know the prodiver is decent.

  • @brunorosi
    @brunorosi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent comparison, thank you very much! I think that's how any comparison should be made, although in the end people will listen to their hearts as well.

  • @aubsta1
    @aubsta1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Brand recognition isn't always a good thing. When I think of Invicta, I (unfortunately) visualize their most popular models which are gigantic and....unique.

    • @garywillacey9979
      @garywillacey9979 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      The Pro Diver is Invicta's most popular model not their massive ugly time pieces. The Pro Divers are very decent as good or possibly better than the Seiko 5 Sports.

    • @ashleyjohansson230
      @ashleyjohansson230 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thats why invictas are so awesome, they stand out from other watch companies. I love invicta's large colorful unique watches.

    • @brianbuchert6382
      @brianbuchert6382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I own 5 invictas from the pro diver to the so called huge ugly watches which I absolutely love but have to be in the right mood to wear them,lol but the pro diver is an awsome little watch!

  • @brianhoflock9589
    @brianhoflock9589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I enjoy wearing my Invicta watch every day. 👍

  • @anthonyperkins6025
    @anthonyperkins6025 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Invictor on order but I’m really coveting your RE such a super watch thanks for review.

  • @suplex2000
    @suplex2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Thank you for this review. I wasn't even aware of the Loreo brand until now. I will look for them to see what else they sell. Respectfully, my favorite watch brand is Invicta (I also love Casio G-Shocks). Whenever I hear about someone wanting a fake Rolex (where it is Branded "Rolex", but a fake), I always inform them that they should buy a real Invicta Pro Diver instead. Now don't get me wrong, as an Invicta fan even I will tell you that it's NO Rolex (compared to a real one), but for the same look I would go with the Pro Diver for anyone where a Rolex is out of their range.

    • @inventor1v
      @inventor1v 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Pagani Design PD 1639 is the best of them all atm!

    • @brianbuchert6382
      @brianbuchert6382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a pro diver but since it was the 11-11 alli express sale I ordered a green loredo simply curious to see if it’s a good watch or if they wasted a piece of sapphire on a crappy watch? I’m not calling it crappy because I haven’t gotten it yet but I’m interested to see,,,,,,,,,I hope I shouldn’t have purchased another pro diver.lol

  • @jojoG1441
    @jojoG1441 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My Komandirskie just arrived. Gotta say I love it. Have an Invicta and love that too

  • @jpe3180
    @jpe3180 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'd like to chime in, as far as the coolness factor is concerned. I recently purchased a pro-diver 9404, and it's by far my only time-piece that my clients and colleagues have taken notice of.
    In terms of quality, maybe I lucked out? The bezel action on mine is the best I've had on any given dive watch I've had. No back-play, zero play!

  • @SoCalWatchReviews
    @SoCalWatchReviews 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Great comparison my man! The clear winner is that Explorer on your wrist!

  • @muntaqamahi9749
    @muntaqamahi9749 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent Review. I do agree with you. Lorea seems to be a nice budget automatic

  • @ChessRabbitt
    @ChessRabbitt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have a Loreo sub and I love it. I also have two Invictas, not subs, and I love them also.
    The Loreo is a good watch.

  • @EverydayWatchGuy
    @EverydayWatchGuy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I recently picked up the green Loreo and it looks really nice on a jubilee-style bracelet. Thanks for the comparison Oleg!

  • @timemachineeddie1146
    @timemachineeddie1146 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Invicta Rocks! Love the Invicta, Love the Dog and thanks for sharing this great video.

  • @Florin_AEM
    @Florin_AEM หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thisis the best youtube watch reviewer EVER!
    And the human seems to know some things about watches too.

  • @gordcampbell1793
    @gordcampbell1793 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oleg. Well done sir. Great Review. I own 14 Invictas. But also 15 Vostoks.

  • @ricktemmen6272
    @ricktemmen6272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Invicta has a lot of brick and mortar stores here in Florida. Nice video. Thanks 😎👍

  • @LuisPontes_ca
    @LuisPontes_ca 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great comparison. Seriously considering both watches as an every-day beater.

  • @Trex100
    @Trex100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent review.

  • @MDP673NJ1
    @MDP673NJ1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Invicta all the way...you can't beat the movent for the price and they look great i shamelessly own 5 different pro divers and have a hard time stopping buying more lol

  • @karategk1
    @karategk1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I bought the newer version of the Loreo that has an upgraded Seagull movement and it is both beautiful and accurate. Excellent video! I enjoy the head to head comparison reviews!

    • @edmund8954
      @edmund8954 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      can I get a link plss

    • @sendastunt
      @sendastunt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edmund8954 i don't think you can find a link for a Loreo with the newer movement, the Aliexpress store i bought mine on showcased the old movement on its pictures, but still i received the newer one

    • @waris3732
      @waris3732 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How's your Loreo holding up movement accuracy wise? Also did you purchase yours from the Loreo official store?

    • @sendastunt
      @sendastunt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@waris3732 I bought it from the WYQ store on AliExpress, movement is +15 seconds a day

    • @waris3732
      @waris3732 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sendastunt thanks. Thought about regulating it?

  • @NorthSpider
    @NorthSpider 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a Bond fan I love the submariner look, but its way above my paygrade, therefore I got me that Loreo lookalike which is now my favourite watch.

  • @fjones1914
    @fjones1914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My Invicta has the coin edge and is easier to grip and turn BUT it has a lot of play in it!
    Both of these watches are awesome value for the money.
    I bought my Invicta to wear at work only so I no longer wear my nicer, more expensive watches at work.
    I am around a lot of electromagnetic fields and didn’t want to run the risk of magnetizing my more pricy watches.
    I have purchased a de-magnetizer in case I need to perform that task.

    • @rikardocarvalho
      @rikardocarvalho 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have both, and the bezel of the invicta is flawless. No play at all. Althouth the finishes of the bezel look quite better on the loreo... it has a "lot" of play. Not backwards, but its like the bezel its 0,4mm larger than it should

  • @Greg-tj8rg
    @Greg-tj8rg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If the Loreo just had the NH35 it would be such insane value for money at ~$60. Still good value..I might treat myself to it after my next paycheck as a sort of holiday gift to myself

  • @override39
    @override39 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you very much for this video.i have 2 invicta cos the seiko movement.stay safe

  • @S-Ltd1000
    @S-Ltd1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jody at jomw praises the loreo and I expected it to come out on top so quite pleased with the result. I have an 8926ob bought out of curiosity and it's actually not a bad watch, however, it took three attempts with Amazon to get one that was satisfactory. The first had a misaligned cyclops, the second one surprisingly had a faulty nh35a movement but the third one is spot on. The ability to exchange the Invicta on a next day with Amazon prime is a massive plus point and occasionally the price drops low enough for it to be a real bargain. Loreo is also available on Amazon global but the prices appear fixed way above the invicta and they take between 1 and 4 weeks for delivery so it would be a pain if you ended up in the situation I had with the pro diver.

    • @cbody70
      @cbody70 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great comments and your 3 attempts with Amazon confirms my suspicion that the quality attributes of the Invicta are being oversold. That plus if you ignore the bs coolness factor these 2 watches are actually in a dead heat.

    • @S-Ltd1000
      @S-Ltd1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cbody70 Jody is correct in saying pay no more than a base price of about $70. Beyond that there are better alternatives. They range from £65 to £125 on Amazon UK. If they just set a fixed price they would probably sell more of them.

  • @williamrizzo1285
    @williamrizzo1285 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have that same Hulk homage Loroe and love it. It's basically a Kermit because it has an aluminum bezel insert and the small case with a Hulk dial and a Yacht-Master bracelet because the middle links are polished. Mine is currently running about 10 seconds a day fast. I agree with you that the bezel back play is horrible and is only 90 clicks. The loom is pretty good at first but it only lasts about 10 minutes or so.

  • @mr22guy
    @mr22guy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I was deciding between these two and chose the Loreo because of the sapphire crystal and (advertised) ceramic bezel. I immediately could tell the bezel wasn't ceramic - OK with it at $60. But last night the crystal got scratched by a piece of aluminum, so I now doubt if it's actually sapphire. No AR coating on this so I know it's not just a scratch in the coating.
    Also I wear it on a nato strap, and in the last 2 months it has popped a spring bar twice. I never thought a nato strap would actually save my watch from falling off! Also the rotor has some rust spots on it.
    Definitely would not recommend this watch. The Invicta has its downsides, but at the end of the day it's an old watch company, has a renown movement, and is honest about what it is.

    • @richieroo4844
      @richieroo4844 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Im not 100 percent certain, but I think a sapphire crystal costs upward of $100 \120 ,so i very much doubt the Loreo has a sapphire crystal Havent tried Loreo. I find the Invictas Automatics really good ,very reliable.

    • @sd26001
      @sd26001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I'm pretty sure Jody at Just One More Watch actually tested it for sapphire and found that it is really is sapphire.

    • @fjones1914
      @fjones1914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      sd26001 I just watched that video you mention and he does use a tester to verify it’s sapphire.

    • @mr22guy
      @mr22guy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fjones1914 Maybe some people got a Loreo with a sapphire, and some people got one without. Just like how some people get it in a nice blue box, and some get it in a padded envelope (me).

  • @edmunddantes4757
    @edmunddantes4757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My loreo has best bezal action of all my watch. No back play, precise and no backplay. I love it

  • @atticus6572
    @atticus6572 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Out of these two, I'd take the Loreo due to its lume and sapphire - two important criteria for beaters to have in my eyes. Lume in particular is super valuable when going out in the evening/night as well as for swimming, which are common occurrences for most people. I'd dish out a bit more money for a Corgeut BB beater, though.

    • @garywillacey9979
      @garywillacey9979 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can tell the time better in the dark when you can see the hands rather than the numbers. With the Invicta at least you can see the hands clearer, which makes more sense.

    • @valije
      @valije 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the Loreo. Dont count on the lume to be useful. It gets dim pretty fast. You can still see the pips with dark adjusted eyes (albeit very faint), but you can't see the hands.

  • @stevecurran6480
    @stevecurran6480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think I would put more value in the movement over the crystal. While sapphire is slightly better in the Loreo, the Seiko NH35 movement is far superior over a Seagull movement not housed in a Seagull watch. Just my opinion. I own about ten pro divers and four loreos. I favor Invicta.

  • @ImranKhan-ll9ie
    @ImranKhan-ll9ie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice comparison

  • @AvroBellow
    @AvroBellow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've been wearing an Invicta #3049 Grand Diver as my "daily driver" for nine years and it still looks as pristine as the day it arrived. The gold hasn't even worn AT ALL.
    Now, I have to ask you, why did you show the Loreo's display back but not the Invicta's? EVERY Pro and Grand Diver has a display back showing the Seiko NH35A movement but you didn't feature it. It makes no sense.

  • @shanewright2772
    @shanewright2772 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow! That was a real Battle Royale, full of twists and turns! I have to say that Invicta should get a 10 for coolness, because it was, last year, one of the most hated watch marques there was but now it seems to be scrapping its way back towards respectability and a bit of cachet. There's a groundswell of underdog invicta pride.

    • @brianbuchert6382
      @brianbuchert6382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s largely due to invictas release of the 1953 which I was lucky enough to get one before the prices tripled

    • @shanewright2772
      @shanewright2772 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brianbuchert6382 Well said and lucky you getting your hands on that cool watch!

  • @frederic6998
    @frederic6998 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    5:24 those watches cost about 50$ so you dont service them, a service cost several handreds $.

  • @Cloxxki
    @Cloxxki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My black Loreo day+date is so nice (albeit lacking a cyclops), I can barely pick another watch regardless the occasion.
    Did just order a white dial Pagani "Daytona" this week. €54 out of pocket after coupons. Great specs as with Loreo and my Pagani oversize subby that's a great display piece.
    For the Loreo a clasp upgrade is worth is. The clasp offerings on AliX are improving, hope to soon try out a new glidelock one. Specs are very vague so you only know when you try it.

    • @waris3732
      @waris3732 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How's your Loreo holding up? Movement accuracy wise
      And could you throw in links to AliExpress on the clasps you've bought/considered? Thanks

  • @saevans63
    @saevans63 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have an Invicta 8926OB. Mine was running around 40 secs a day fast when I got it but I regulated it down to around +2 secs a day. For the money it’s not too bad at all.

  • @lpsalsaman
    @lpsalsaman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a few Invicta Pro Divers, and I recently got a Loreo. I was surprised with the Loreo's weight in comparison to my Invicta's, the Loreo seems to be more solid. So far my Loreo is been pretty consistent timing-wise, seems to run okay thus far keeping accurate time. However, that could change with time as the watch is used more often. I think both watches are pretty close, but you get with the Loreo a sapphire crystal, which is really good for the price point. Invicta is better known, so it will be more desirable for some people plus if there are warranty issues you can contact them easily. Anyway, great review, keep up the nice work!

    • @Insan3-qf1dw
      @Insan3-qf1dw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is it working for you?

  • @ronaldwilliams3535
    @ronaldwilliams3535 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am a invicta owner and thank you for the information. I think I will stick with the invicta.

  • @Rzut-Oka
    @Rzut-Oka 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello, very good combination especially about the comparison of mechanisms.
    There are 3 versions of this Loreo and the first one did not have a stop second and was very accurate, now they are with a stop second and additionally with days of the week.
    Water resistant my 1ver loero I swam 6m underwater and nothing happened.
    The loreo bezel has the same spring as the one from bostok and can be adjusted, but it is very difficult to pull the bezel .. 120click in my version! It is very difficult to get a replacement insert of this size.
    I have 3 different loreo (L9201g, L9202g and third is qwarc and no have review yet..) watches and they all came with boxes and I bought from different sellers from aliexpres about two years ago.
    The winner in Europe is Loreo because nobody will buy an Invicta for 60 $ including home delivery. Invicta is cheap brand only in US.

    • @ajovev
      @ajovev 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Completely right, Invicta delivered to UK for example including taxes is 90 USD, not 70.

    • @S-Ltd1000
      @S-Ltd1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They sell them on Amazon in the UK. Somebody keeps stock here because I replaced mine three times in as many days. They are normally between £80 and £100 but can drop as low as £60 ($74) still a half decent watch for that money.

    • @Rzut-Oka
      @Rzut-Oka 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@S-Ltd1000 when I order to Poland shipping + tax is +20£...

  • @TimothyMoore
    @TimothyMoore 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have a Black Loreo Sub which is infinitely cooler than the Invicta. The Seagull ST16 is a lot smoother than the nh35 movement in my eye. The weakest link in the LOREO is the bezel. I've knocked it off 2 times. I have to replace the spring and it should be fine but quality control is def lacking there.

    • @rikardocarvalho
      @rikardocarvalho 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I dont think the word "infinitely" is the word you wanted to use

    • @TimothyMoore
      @TimothyMoore 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rikardocarvalho I've owned both. I sold the Invicta, it had infinitely zero appeal to me.

    • @rikardocarvalho
      @rikardocarvalho 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@TimothyMoore they are both submariner homages, pretty much the same. Kinda of strange that one pleases you SO much and the other doesnt. At least to the point that you put them so apart. To my eyes, maybe loreo seems a littleeee bit superior regarding finishing quality (mine is brand new). That bezel insert looks better made and it has a better lume. (lets forget the sapphire because is not a visible feature). But my invicta has a more accurate movement, and has a super tight bezel. no play at all. The loreo bezel has some play that makes me nervous :). the magnifier is also crappy in the Loreo. The bracelet in the Loreo also doesnt fitd so well between the lugs, underneath the bezel there is some space that shouldnt exist. Oh.. the Invicta coin edge bezel its a little bit bigger, which stands out more and has a better grip. All in all... some has better things than the other and vice-versa. I Can't choose one

    • @TimothyMoore
      @TimothyMoore 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rikardocarvalho The movement in My Loreo is very accurate. like -3/day. Whereas the Invicta would lose 2-3 minutes in 12 hrs. As far as the bezel on the Loreo, I agree, but mine hasn't fallen off yet and I replaced the insert with a ceramic insert shortly after I got the watch. The bracelet fit mine well, no gaps, and the finish is very good. I have the Black PVD'd version.
      The two things about the Loreo that I prefer mostly over the Invicta are:
      A. Sensible branding. The Invicta looks stupid with the logo replicated all over the watch.
      B. The rehaute on the Loreo is much swallower. The Invicta rehaute makes the watch feel like it has a tiny movement inside whereas the rehaute on the Loreo looks like there's a robust movement inside. The STP-11 is a great movement with Swiss DNA even if it's a Chinese rep.

  • @TheFlyrodder68
    @TheFlyrodder68 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have both and it is the LOREO by a mile.

    • @waris3732
      @waris3732 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How's your Loreo holding up movement wise? Is it a constant deviation in a day or does it depend from day to day?

  • @ramspencer5492
    @ramspencer5492 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You way undersold the advantages of the Loreo. Sapphire and ceramic..... Major longevity. No obnoxious case branding. Way better cosmetic longevity and just looks better. The Seagull has a pretty solid reputation. People aren't likely to service either of these watches, but just use them for quite a few years.
    The only advantage for the Invicta is the movement. The Loreo is more watch for the money and is classier.

    • @brianbuchert6382
      @brianbuchert6382 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t think the loreo bezel is ceramic

  • @romanrodriguez1848
    @romanrodriguez1848 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I also own both Invicta & Loreo submariner homage watches. I give a small edge to Loreo because of the sapphire crystal and the Loreo bracelet is better engineered and more comfortable to ware.

    • @Cricri761000
      @Cricri761000 ปีที่แล้ว

      I own both too, but I had a QC problem with the Invicta : the stem went out when I pulled it !.

  • @scottym3
    @scottym3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a Loreo on order. we'll see how it is when I get it.

  • @peterkolovos3079
    @peterkolovos3079 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love all of my Invicta's. I just bought one Loreo.

  • @johnharrison1929
    @johnharrison1929 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My 2nd sea gull movement and they both are spot on with time and reserve., hand wind and hack.The Loreo has all the faults noted, but for $60 on a nato strap it looks great. Time will tell about the movement.

    • @waris3732
      @waris3732 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How's the loreo holding up? Movement accuracy wise

  • @williamsipe1151
    @williamsipe1151 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could the loreo bezel be replaced entirely?

  • @ussling
    @ussling 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My daily beater watch is an early 2000s Breitling SuperOcean blue dial. Between the Invicta or Loreo, Invicta hands down.

  • @cawschwarzraben359
    @cawschwarzraben359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Argh, I purchased a nice looking Loreo "Daytona" look-alike. Nice enough, but the crown tube threads stripped and the watch is now no longer even water resistant as the crown won't screw down. I asked the Ali Express seller for an address for in-warranty repair (one year warranty, supposedly) and they gave me an address in Fujian province which correlates with, of all things, the XIAMEN UNITED STONE IMP & EXP CO., LTD. I guess that's a GFY.

  • @BionicMerlin
    @BionicMerlin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd give the Invicta bezel a plus for having a lumed dot. Do either of these watches have a bezel that dents easily?

    • @gurmeharsingh1000
      @gurmeharsingh1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're both aluminum inserts so they will probably dent and scratch about the same

  • @achimkohlhage1328
    @achimkohlhage1328 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Go PARNIS or BLIGER, both offer more after service. Especially BLIGER offering 43mm cases of stunning appearance. The latter's accuracy is regulated to +8s/d, so its possible.

  • @MikeAustin2012
    @MikeAustin2012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did you test the Loreo crystal. Is it really Sapphire. Some are claiming to be Sapphire coated. My diamond tester only sees window glass. That said, I'll have to dig mine out. I bought 2, I must have been half asleep because one was quartz. I gave it away. Personally, I'd save $20 more and buy another Parnis, not only Sapphire but ceramic bezel as well. Cheers all from the USA.

  • @ronaldspencer547
    @ronaldspencer547 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I got a new invicta and measured the accuracy on a time grapher and it was 16 seconds fast a day. I regulated it down to zero. Very good movement in the invicta.

    • @De_Goeij
      @De_Goeij 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is the water resistance after opening the watch?

    • @ronaldspencer547
      @ronaldspencer547 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I didn't test it before or after. I don't plan on swimming with it. The case back had a substantial rubber gasket and tightened snugly with a case wrench.

    • @MenacedAssassin
      @MenacedAssassin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ronaldspencer547 So you buy a dive watch but won't swim in it. It's like buying a pair of shoes but don't walk in them AHAH

    • @DeathProfessor
      @DeathProfessor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@MenacedAssassin Ummm no, it's not. He's still using it as a watch. It would be like buying a pair of Nike's designed for basketball but not playing basketball in them. Which is every bit as normal and common as buying a dive watch but not using it to swim/dive.

    • @erichg.6235
      @erichg.6235 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow, zero. Better than Rolex, Patek or Lange. Congrats! Send it to COSC, your Invicta will win any competition with swiss brands.

  • @Cloxxki
    @Cloxxki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Has anyone managed to remove those endlinks on the Lorea? I was planning to try a 007 movie accurate NATO on my black one but it's not an easy job...

    • @brianbuchert6382
      @brianbuchert6382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just ordered my loreo on a nato strap from the company instead of the ss bracelet just because I like to switch out my straps and get different looks!

  • @yesrbiradar
    @yesrbiradar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, Recently I bought CK Automatic watch with ETA movement the best value watch. I am planning to replace the movement from CK to Loreo, as I read that it is difficult to replace NH35 with ETA compared to Seagull movement
    (st16) with ETA. Let me know your opinion.

    • @Embargoman
      @Embargoman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Seagull is a ETA clone.

  • @papatorr3669
    @papatorr3669 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had an Invicta just like this one. I couldn't operate that smooth bezel when sweaty or wearing gloves. Got rid of it. Invicta does have a Pro Diver with a better coin edge bezel.

  • @rickgano75
    @rickgano75 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have both Invicta pro diver and loreo full black. The nh35/36 movement is 24 Jewel the seagul st16 is 21, which I'm sure adds to the accuracy. The loreo box is nicer but I didn't get the tool just a kit with tools and pins. There is a pip on the Invicta bezel not on loreo, and the Invicta bezel is tighter. The p-d is available with a coin edge like the loreo. And really when was the last time time you dove to 660 feet? The other thing about loreo that is a serious problem, it's not superlative, or certified.

  • @donp2166
    @donp2166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice matchup Oleg. Personally, I can't imagine wasting a nickel on either of these. Plenty of people like them, just not me.

    • @Ferien7
      @Ferien7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don P don't waste a nickel. Waste hundreds of dollars on them watches

  • @bobbybonilla4234
    @bobbybonilla4234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Even sophisticated watch snobs know all about the Invicta's Pro diver... It's the infamous 60 dollar Rolex Sub. You'll either love it or hate it...but Invicta pro diver is part of the watch collectors community... And Invicta is a black sheep company of it; by making those 62mm, colorful, wrist cuffs that break all the traditions, but are pretty fun to look at.

  • @97910466xx
    @97910466xx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I own that green loreo. Worth every penny. I really like it

    • @SuranTube
      @SuranTube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How long have you been using it for? And have you ever needed to service it? I was wondering how long of a lifetime it has because I'm thinking of buying one for myself

    • @97910466xx
      @97910466xx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SuranTube i brought this on 2019 Feb month and its working pretty well and no service yet. Due to lockdown i didn't use it and whenever i want to use i just set time and use it. One min up or down. But great thing still no issues and working great

    • @SuranTube
      @SuranTube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@97910466xx That's great to know. I appreciate the reply!

  • @JesusSavesall72
    @JesusSavesall72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm an Invicta collector. I love them all!! They have all lasted well and resale is amazing. I love Invicta. I honestly don't give a damn about the haters. I love their looks and their build quality at the price points I get them for. I'll take a 200 dollar Invicta over an obnoxiously overpriced 20 or 30 grand Rolex any day. If you gave me a Rolex I'd sell that shit so fast and buy me a ton of badass watches. To me with brands like Rolex 80% of the price is name and you buy them so you can be one of those "I need attention so I waste obnoxious amounts of money" people. Just my opinions. Nothing more.

    • @DwyaneWadeCounty
      @DwyaneWadeCounty 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have an Invicta Reserve 6663, but battery is dead. How much do you think I could sell it for?

    • @JesusSavesall72
      @JesusSavesall72 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DwyaneWadeCounty is it the gold and black?

  • @Will-gq3kt
    @Will-gq3kt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have 5 invicta pro diver homages all almost ten years old all still runs and works like new. I just don’t personally like there new current models just way to big for my wrist but I’m looking for the 1953 model

    • @brianbuchert6382
      @brianbuchert6382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was lucky enough to get the 1953 for $150 now they are going from $250-$350

    • @Will-gq3kt
      @Will-gq3kt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brianbuchert6382 oh lucky you 😎👍🏽

  • @suheilkaspar8885
    @suheilkaspar8885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't agree with your verdict as the marks distribution is not fair. You said it yourself, Yes in general the Seiko movement has a better reputation than the little known Seagull, yet the Seagull on the other hand, proved more accurate than the NH35 in many trials. .. Loreo has better all components like Sapphire Crystal, solid and screw end-links, and a better clasp. Also the Invicta has repulsive excessive branding all over it, and the ugly bothersome Seconds Hand. .. You can say Invicta is one of the cheapest Subby clones around, the thing you can't say about the Loreo when it boasts Sapphire Crystal .. Loreo is a much better watch for the price.

  • @philipjanes
    @philipjanes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seen some bad luck with Invicta, but I had one that was fine except the crystal scratched very easy. Also, I just watched a video where a watchmaker took the NH35A apart and found 2 plastic parts that have no business in an automatic. But, for the price......maybe its ok.

  • @syndicatedsatellite7288
    @syndicatedsatellite7288 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oleg, how did your Neymar, black bay homage, with the explorer homage dial, with the NH35A movrment, turn out these days?

    • @jamair23
      @jamair23 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a great watch and working well.

  • @afifakimih8823
    @afifakimih8823 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This invicta pro diver is one of their best watch ever,though It's a homage watch..!!
    I just love this watch.!!
    💜❤

  • @scottparis6355
    @scottparis6355 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is the Seagull ST16 movement a clone of any Western or Japanese movement? Might be easier to drop in a new movement (if you really wanted to) rather than trying to have the Seagull serviced.
    If the Seagull is a copy of another movement, replacement could be a DIY job.

    • @Embargoman
      @Embargoman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably if an ETA, their 2025 movements will be a clone of a Grand Seiko.

  • @eykinhuang2076
    @eykinhuang2076 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love the invicta case model, they have a other dial colors option?

    • @bunk-bn9eo
      @bunk-bn9eo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. I have the stainless and gold with the blue face. Very sharp.

  • @planetdee3587
    @planetdee3587 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I understand a pressed clasp is not much to look at but I do appreciate when it is polished and well finished and I feel the Invicta gives in that range of the best stamped clasp available while the Loreo give the worst. I hate that type of stamped clasp so much that I care not that the bracelet has solid endlinks.

  • @gchard
    @gchard 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have both watches and I couldn't disagree more. Loreo is the better watch and just as accurate as my sub.

    • @waris3732
      @waris3732 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How accurate is your watch movement wise?

  • @jasongennero2925
    @jasongennero2925 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Invicta might've scored higher, but that just means that there loreo is the better beater watch especially cuz it's got a sapphire crystal.

    • @frankovera7553
      @frankovera7553 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lorea have Chinese seagull movement while Invicta has Japanese movement.

  • @alencode
    @alencode 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should test the steeldive sd 1953, better lume and 300 m wt

  • @gm3981
    @gm3981 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just bought a loreo and would like an invicta too. I think the sapphire crystal makes loreo a great watch value. Have you seen coin edge bezel pro diver by invicta?

    • @violinmke
      @violinmke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've got one. Lume was much better. Dot on bezel lights up too. Bezel a little tough to turn til you break it in. Look on ebay used should get cheap. Some love some hate, I love it. Coin edge makes it a bit higher. Keeping accurate time clear back case.

    • @muckcity355
      @muckcity355 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      G M no I want to though

  • @ketch_up
    @ketch_up 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the loreo will get cooler over time!

  • @sendastunt
    @sendastunt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought a Loreo a month ago, mine is running +15 sec a day

  • @TinBin-Craig
    @TinBin-Craig 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ill go with the invicta cheers

  • @scottsj4625
    @scottsj4625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Best Beater watch is the 40 something dollar Casio Gshock. DW5600E-1V. Its one of the first Square ones and is the model they ran a 10-ton truck over and it still worked. I don't like either one. Invicta Logo all over the place makes it an eyesore and the Chinese one will probably fall apart. The movement might be the worst one out there.

  • @BingbongRecto
    @BingbongRecto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You didn't talk about wrist comfort or differences in the dial

    • @silverghost4206
      @silverghost4206 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats because this video is not about those inquires.... Simple.....

  • @christusvincit1067
    @christusvincit1067 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Buen video. Prefiero el Loreo a pesar de que sea un seagull y no un seiko.

  • @toasthuawei1352
    @toasthuawei1352 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guys, everywhere I look the Invicta is $120, wether it's on Amazon or the official Invicta store. Should I wait for black Friday or something

  • @Tom_H327
    @Tom_H327 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is all these Loreo vs. comparison videos featuring the green dial Loreo? Is there only the one color?

  • @Cloxxki
    @Cloxxki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jody's Aliexpres top 10 tipped me over. I bought both a black day-date Loreo and a green Pagani Design, which is similar but larger.
    The Pagani has a lovely if stiff to open milled clasp, is a tad too big maybe.
    The Loreo is a tad lighter than avertised, 160 g with full bracelet, closer to 148 g sized for me.
    The nicest watches ever for me.
    I am waiting for a milled €9 clasp for the Loreo. Might put it on valious Nato straps later.
    The green Pagani I will try on a brown PU leather look Nato just for variation.
    Both have bracelets that can be adjusted somewhat, but they are a bit awkward on the wrist. either uncorfortable or slipping toward the elbow all the time while desk diving.

    • @brianbuchert6382
      @brianbuchert6382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I ordered my loredo with the stock factory nato strap

  • @FitOutPost
    @FitOutPost 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I couldn't agree with you more, sir.

  • @SuperBeemerGuy
    @SuperBeemerGuy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I enjoyed your review and agree with the outcome, but disagree with giving Loreo an extra point for sapphire crystal twice in two different categories. Either watch is a fantastic value for an automatic movement. I don’t always feel comfortable traveling with a very expensive watch, so I wear one of my Invictas. I also like the variety Invicta offers in automatic watches: I first bought a gold tone Pro Diver with black dial and scalloped bezel, then lucked into a Grand Diver with yellow dial and 300 meter WR, then came my favorite a Pro Diver with Titanium case and bracelet, then I could not resist a Pro Diver GMT, and a few others I think. What fun these watches have provided for not-serious money and a better Seiko movement then what Seiko installs in their own watches.

  • @snookiewozo
    @snookiewozo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To add to the video - Loreo watches come with 2 different movements (based on AliExpress comments). Mine is different than yours with an ancor-shaped weight.

    • @sendastunt
      @sendastunt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      is the movement on yours better than the one reviewed on this video ? thanks

  • @rockyrakovica603
    @rockyrakovica603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had both loreo is 2-3 times better, loreo wears much better and it is more substantial than invicta. I think seagull movement is as good as nh35 at least as time keeping is concerned. And it is much more presentable movement vissualy.

  • @mattrossesq
    @mattrossesq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow. .my Loreo came in a plastic bag from Ali-Express. You must've had the extra fancy delivery.

  • @omarahmed1760
    @omarahmed1760 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where could l buy tessil Maren Diver in 220 usd

    • @LTC_Tiger
      @LTC_Tiger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Omar Ahmed I was looking at a Tisell also. Gave up on it. Got a Glycine Combat Sub at Costco for $289.99 instead. Swiss watch for under $300? Yes, please!

  • @MikeAustin2012
    @MikeAustin2012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dare you to find an imvicta in that beautiful candy apple sunburst green! Or red for that matter. I have a red but its a grand pro diver. 47mm? Its big but i like it. Beautifully trimmed in gold but that IP gold wears fast. I bought a stainless n gold bracelet to replace my worn one. Its a fake Rolex (didn't say that when i ordered) but. Its a nice working glide lock and it's better than the Invicta ! Hands down the most complemented watch i own! Even more than my 116610 black sub. In the months i have had it, only one compliment, a girl in MacDonalds.