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Think of how far suppressor development would be if the NFA didn't exist... think of all the integrally suppressed hunting rifles we would have by now.
Probably not much improvement. Suppressors here in the UK and across a lot of Europe are largely either unregulated or never refused when applied for (also no extra charge for them). New designs are pretty much the same as they were 50 years ago. Even metal 3D printed ones aren't a great improvement. They've definitely got lighter and a bit smaller but there's only so much you can do.
@@PaperHunter - I understand they aren’t restricted there but your ability to own the firearm is… companies like to make profit if companies had unfettered access to the over 400 million guns in the US to sell suppressors for I think they would spend more money on R&D as there would be more money to be made but I may be wrong… how many guns are there in circulation in the UK? I honestly don’t know
@@PaperHunterI think if the US suppressor manufacturing wasn't stifled so hard by the ATF, development and ingenuity could improve and flourish. I understand the limitations aspect, but like somebody already mentioned we fucking LOVE our pews pews in America!! 🇺🇲 Oh say can you see... 🎵
@@bigretardhalo Just the UK about 615,000 firearms and 1.3 million shotguns (legal ones). Europe has far more and there are loads of suppressor makers. It's not such a small market that's there isn't innovation, it's just that, as I said, there's only so much you can do. Subsonics are already nearly silent enough that all you hear is the action and there's nothing you can do for supersonics.
Audio quality isn't good enough for me to tell the difference during the first test, they sounded the same. Definite difference between the full size can and the little can though.
The quietness of the suppressor on the rifle was absolutely beautiful. The lever action of the rifle was literally louder than what the shot was. I am very impressed
Very litle difference to my 70 year old ears. 🤔🤔 the bigger one does a lot. On the rifle it definitely does the job though. But in the end. ..... an extra inch is much more effective (at least according to her). 😅😅
I have the 22K and absolutely love it on my Beretta 21A. I usually keep some ceramic suppressor fluid in it and it is a perfect match up to the little pistol. I also have a couple of the full size Banish 22 suppressors for the larger 22LR pistols/rifles.
@@TeddyBear-lb9hoEven at a indoor range with a .22 mag it is still hearing safe. Most fireworks are louder than a .22 and fireworks are hearing safe. Same goes for things like weed eaters. That said most 9mm is also hearing safe if you are outside.
I recently got to bring home 2 Rugged Suppressors, a Alaskan 360, and the FDE version of the Oculus 22, it can handle up to 5.7x28! And can be used full size (10 baffle) or as a short (5 baffle) I tried it the first time last weekend on my Beretta 21 Covert FDE. I was really impressed.
If you want a small suppressor and then a bigger one you'll want to go with the Q suppressors. They're adjustable to each baffle, so you can pick the perfect length for each firearm you're using
Camera microphone and it's amp is doing level normalization so you do not hear difference as in real life. They have sort of compressor logic in it and tries to shave off the peaks. Plus TH-cam compression on top of it. It is suppressor definitely. People very often think those units make it so silent that you can shoot few feet's away and no one will notice. That is is not the case with most of the suppressors. Got to love how long barrel makes it more effective. Great demonstration.
Thanks for the video. I haven’t shot the 22K V2 but was given one in a promotion with Silencer Central. I’d probably buy the longer version but looking forward to using the 22K V2 (it was FREE).
It might be your audio recording equipment but after the first round the non suppressed 502 sounded quieter but the suppressed one was essentially quiet up close but the echo off the hillside made it sound louder
To my ears, the audio wasn't really good enough to tell the difference on pistol test 1, but the longer suppressor was much quieter on pistol test 2. I heard 22Plinkster saying repeatedly that it was hearing safe, but I don't think that I'd spend my money on the Banish 22K V2 for a pistol...Just get a full-size suppressor, or run unsuppressed. Going by the Henry rifle test audio, the Banish 22K V2 may be a decent option for a shorter-length suppressor with less weight on a rifle. It's so hard to tell what suppressors sound like from videos.
Thanks for making the video. Man I would be so mad if I would have bought that little suppressor. Not to mention the 206 bucks in a stamp and almost a year wait. Maybe that's why they decided to run the bogo deal.
I’d be awfully disappointed to spend hundreds on a little suppressor and another $200 tax, then after nearly a year finally use it just to find out it’s as effective as a $40 flash can.
If I did use a suppressor, I would prefer the longer one. I agree with George below, in the initial comparison, the shorty-suppressed pistol sounded louder.
I hate to say it, but it's about volume... If you have a rifle with a long barrel, that gives more space for the gasses to expand and you don't need much can to silence it. A pistol? Good luck with any small can.
I have a tandem cross suppressor for my TX 22 and I shoot with it in and off I think I don’t shoot enough to know the difference between them. But I don’t shoot nearly as much as the plinkster so he is the one who would know!
I don't think Tandem Kross sells suppressors... They do, however, sell some worthless gimmick .22 muzzle brake/compensator B.S. that doesn't do anything.
If you shoot anything above standard velocity with a suppressor in a 22 pistol, it can be quite loud. I would not say that suppressor is hearing safe on a pistol. Federal auto match is also crap in pistols. It jams in my m&p and mkiv. Works ok in my 10/22.
Wonder how it would change the sound of a m&P 15-22? I'm loving this lil banish 😊, I normally run a 36gr high velocity for grouse, just wanting to get the primary Crack down enuf to here the lead hit the bird.
Why Was The Rifle So Much Quieter? I Thought The Longer Barrell Would Increase Villosity Making It Louder? Awesome Video! Now I'm Getting A Suppressor!
Mine came finally , however I can't get it to unscrew. Any suggestions? The banish 45 is super easy to take apart . This 22kv2 however won't budge out the box.
I just picked mine up last week. I figured for another stamp on the bogo, what the heck. I wouldn't pay money for it though, at least not the v1 I got. I have a use for it, so it's not that big of deal, but I wish they would have just offered half off a regular Banish 22 instead. I will say the thing weighs nothing, so there is that.
Haven't had a chance to test it yet. I don't have a bolt to try it on, but I'll give it a shot on the 10/22. I don't think there's enough volume to handle the 22 mag I was planning on using it on. I am hoping it will give enough added backpressure to help my p22 that doesn't like to cycle. @@gunjack66
@@jacobdelgado7343 I built some awesome glocks and one great 1911. All with red dots, ported barrel, etc. But yeah, most of the cool stuff we can't have.
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Nice. But I need a little more, and I don't think it's worth the tax stamp. All the years of me squirrel hunting I never had a problem with them running back in the holes after the first shot. Some of my best hunts were with Aguila Supermax HP's. Loud as all get out, and the squirrels didn't mind neither as they fell victim to it. Plus unsurpressed makes you feel alive out there in the woods.
I got one on the BOGO and was really disappointed I have the. Longer version and want to return the v2. It sucks. I tried it on two rugers rifle and pistol with cci quite 710fps. Almost no difference between the can and no can. That was a bait and switch. My fault for not researching it first. Silencer Central has been slipping on customer service in the last couple of years.
A clip is a piece of metal, usually a strip or block, that holds several rounds together from at the base of the cartridges, aligned in one or two rows. Ammunition clips usually come from the factory with the ammo already affixed to the clip. The clip is inserted into a firearm or into a permanently affixed magazine that is inside the firearm, and after the rounds are shot, the clip is ejected or removed and usually discarded. Well known firearms that use clips are the M1903 Springfield and the M1 Garand. A magazine on the other hand, is a spring fed device that feeds rounds into the chamber of the firearm. It can either be permanently affixed inside the firearm (usually called an internal box magazine), or it can be detachable, which can be repeatedly inserted and removed. Common firearms like Glock pistols and AR-15 rifles both use detachable magazines.
On a pistol this sounds the same as unsuppressed. I listened on 2 different audio sources and couldn’t pick the suppressed vs non. On the riffle it made a huge difference. Definitely would not consider this for a pistol at all.
You have to be 21, a state that allows them, and no criminal record. If you can buy a pistol, you can buy a supressor. Check out Silencer Central. They can answer all your questions.
I shoot hundreds of rounds of CCI Quiet out of an 18.5" barrel, and the impact on steel is louder than the round. It hits steel hard enough to flatten 40 Gr. lead to the thickness of aluminum foil. Why spend the money on a suppressor?
Don't have that kind of discretionary money to throw after a small noise reduction if I'm going to wait a year and pay the cash I'm going with the full size can
Yeah, nice. But I still refuse to pay $$$$$$$$$$$ for the pipe that people in New Zealand can freely buy at the cash register in local grocery store for $10.
Thanks for showing me that the small Banish is a complete was of money. What a joke. I own two CGS HYDRA 22 suppressors. They are 9nl6 $250 and 100x the suppressor that Banish is.
22LR is close to hearing safe without a suppressor. This suppressor on camera still seems to be fairly loud unless you put it in a rifle and shoot the CCI standard velocity load. This suppressor just doesn't make any sense to me. A lightweight short suppressor on a 22 handgun that only makes it a little more quiet is a waste of money, "Hearing safe" on a short barrel 22LR is really not much of a gain.x Adding another 2''-3'' to a suppressor to make it more quiet is better for both rifles and pistols
Think of how far suppressor development would be if the NFA didn't exist... think of all the integrally suppressed hunting rifles we would have by now.
Probably not much improvement. Suppressors here in the UK and across a lot of Europe are largely either unregulated or never refused when applied for (also no extra charge for them). New designs are pretty much the same as they were 50 years ago. Even metal 3D printed ones aren't a great improvement. They've definitely got lighter and a bit smaller but there's only so much you can do.
@@PaperHunter - I understand they aren’t restricted there but your ability to own the firearm is… companies like to make profit if companies had unfettered access to the over 400 million guns in the US to sell suppressors for I think they would spend more money on R&D as there would be more money to be made but I may be wrong… how many guns are there in circulation in the UK? I honestly don’t know
@PaperHunter yes but the UK market is TINY compared to the US.
@@PaperHunterI think if the US suppressor manufacturing wasn't stifled so hard by the ATF, development and ingenuity could improve and flourish. I understand the limitations aspect, but like somebody already mentioned we fucking LOVE our pews pews in America!! 🇺🇲 Oh say can you see... 🎵
@@bigretardhalo Just the UK about 615,000 firearms and 1.3 million shotguns (legal ones). Europe has far more and there are loads of suppressor makers. It's not such a small market that's there isn't innovation, it's just that, as I said, there's only so much you can do. Subsonics are already nearly silent enough that all you hear is the action and there's nothing you can do for supersonics.
Audio quality isn't good enough for me to tell the difference during the first test, they sounded the same. Definite difference between the full size can and the little can though.
I hear the difference just fine
It sounds on my device that the 22k is louder. I know it's not but it sure sounds loud. The full size is nice though.
Choices are good, but I think I would go for the longer one every time.
Yeah the couple inches shorter isn't going to make any difference in the real world. Rather have the better noise reduction
Modular suppressors are the way to go
The quietness of the suppressor on the rifle was absolutely beautiful. The lever action of the rifle was literally louder than what the shot was. I am very impressed
Very litle difference to my 70 year old ears. 🤔🤔 the bigger one does a lot. On the rifle it definitely does the job though. But in the end. ..... an extra inch is much more effective (at least according to her). 😅😅
Females don't have Nerves in the upper Vaginal area. Learn some Biology instead of showing ignorance.
I have the 22K and absolutely love it on my Beretta 21A. I usually keep some ceramic suppressor fluid in it and it is a perfect match up to the little pistol. I also have a couple of the full size Banish 22 suppressors for the larger 22LR pistols/rifles.
On the first test the suppressed one sounded louder than the unsuppressed one.
I was thinking the same thing. I have to keep in mind that microphone's do not pick up sounds very well at these volumes.
It is just .22lr so it is hearing safe even without the suppressor.
That's what I was going to say.
@robertsears8323
That really depends. Out in the woods a .22 isn't terrible but indoors it can sound like a 9mm
@@TeddyBear-lb9hoEven at a indoor range with a .22 mag it is still hearing safe.
Most fireworks are louder than a .22 and fireworks are hearing safe. Same goes for things like weed eaters.
That said most 9mm is also hearing safe if you are outside.
Outstanding comparison and explanation! Thank you!!
I recently got to bring home 2 Rugged Suppressors, a Alaskan 360, and the FDE version of the Oculus 22, it can handle up to 5.7x28! And can be used full size (10 baffle) or as a short (5 baffle)
I tried it the first time last weekend on my Beretta 21 Covert FDE. I was really impressed.
If you want a small suppressor and then a bigger one you'll want to go with the Q suppressors. They're adjustable to each baffle, so you can pick the perfect length for each firearm you're using
I almost bought a smaller one like this so happy I switched the order. Bought a sparrow instead. Thank goodness.
Saw you up at the Target Sports event in Ct. Hope you had a good time, they are a good company with great customer service.
Camera microphone and it's amp is doing level normalization so you do not hear difference as in real life. They have sort of compressor logic in it and tries to shave off the peaks. Plus TH-cam compression on top of it. It is suppressor definitely. People very often think those units make it so silent that you can shoot few feet's away and no one will notice. That is is not the case with most of the suppressors. Got to love how long barrel makes it more effective. Great demonstration.
Thanks for the video. The size of suppressors has been a deterrent for me.
In a 22 rifle it sounds like a Gamo pellet gun. You have to run subsonic ammo
Always look forward to your videos! Thanks for always making great content, man!
Thanks for the video. I haven’t shot the 22K V2 but was given one in a promotion with Silencer Central. I’d probably buy the longer version but looking forward to using the 22K V2 (it was FREE).
It might be your audio recording equipment but after the first round the non suppressed 502 sounded quieter but the suppressed one was essentially quiet up close but the echo off the hillside made it sound louder
To my ears, the audio wasn't really good enough to tell the difference on pistol test 1, but the longer suppressor was much quieter on pistol test 2. I heard 22Plinkster saying repeatedly that it was hearing safe, but I don't think that I'd spend my money on the Banish 22K V2 for a pistol...Just get a full-size suppressor, or run unsuppressed. Going by the Henry rifle test audio, the Banish 22K V2 may be a decent option for a shorter-length suppressor with less weight on a rifle. It's so hard to tell what suppressors sound like from videos.
I like what I have. My Rugged suppressor is modular so it’s the best of both worlds.
Thanks for making the video. Man I would be so mad if I would have bought that little suppressor. Not to mention the 206 bucks in a stamp and almost a year wait. Maybe that's why they decided to run the bogo deal.
yeah. I did the BOGO. I got the banish backcountry and this one came with it.
Great video. Very informative.
I’d be awfully disappointed to spend hundreds on a little suppressor and another $200 tax, then after nearly a year finally use it just to find out it’s as effective as a $40 flash can.
My Dead Air Mask and Silencerco Switchback doesn’t disappoint
What's a flash can?
@@Kiefy6886A device you screw onto the muzzle, that blocks or lessens muzzle flash.
Allowing you to shoot in the dark without being as visible.
@@galacticboy2009 ah, I always thought those were called flash hiders. Thanks
Just get a modular suppressor. My Rugged 22 suppressor is my favorite.
Awesome comparisons
If I did use a suppressor, I would prefer the longer one. I agree with George below, in the initial comparison, the shorty-suppressed pistol sounded louder.
Mine is in NFA purgatory. Silencer central was running a deal where if you spend $800 or more you get a free 22k (other than tax stamp)
Mic's tend to deaden loud sounds somewhat. Would be interesting to see the results using a "dB meter" (even a phone app meter)
My BOGO should be here any day now. Now is the time to buy a suppressor! I put in on 1-6-24 and got approved on 5-7-24!!!
I hate to say it, but it's about volume... If you have a rifle with a long barrel, that gives more space for the gasses to expand and you don't need much can to silence it. A pistol? Good luck with any small can.
Love it!
I have a tandem cross suppressor for my TX 22 and I shoot with it in and off I think I don’t shoot enough to know the difference between them. But I don’t shoot nearly as much as the plinkster so he is the one who would know!
I don't think Tandem Kross sells suppressors... They do, however, sell some worthless gimmick .22 muzzle brake/compensator B.S. that doesn't do anything.
This looks like Hickok 45 range, pretty badass if I say so myself, I wanna get a shooting tree but they are like 250 plus
Excellent video but considering the $200 extortion fee and the wait time that little can just isn’t quiet enough for me
If you shoot anything above standard velocity with a suppressor in a 22 pistol, it can be quite loud. I would not say that suppressor is hearing safe on a pistol. Federal auto match is also crap in pistols. It jams in my m&p and mkiv. Works ok in my 10/22.
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I still dont see this can on the silencer central website?
Don’t know what it was but on the first test the suppressor sounded louder.
Would like to hear it on a bolt gun.
Wonder how it would change the sound of a m&P 15-22? I'm loving this lil banish 😊, I normally run a 36gr high velocity for grouse, just wanting to get the primary Crack down enuf to here the lead hit the bird.
This is one of the few times that I agree that bigger is better
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I might have been able to hear now if these had been available in the 60’s
Cheers
Moving to a free state next year, first thing I'm gonna do is start the suppressor paperwork.
Well weight on a suppressor is good to help you with recoil
Great Stuff 💯 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
The regular banish is the way to go
is there an adapter for a Ruger 22/45 bull barrel that allows use of a suppressor with out milling the barrel.?I have seen one for a 10/22 rifle
I wouldn’t waste my money on the short one! I could manage the long one just fine!😎
Longer suppressor for sure. But that little one needs some work. Or two more baffles. 😂
Cool video
Why Was The Rifle So Much Quieter? I Thought The Longer Barrell Would Increase Villosity Making It Louder? Awesome Video! Now I'm Getting A Suppressor!
How is it compared to the Energetic Arms NYX mod2 in the 4 baffle configuration?
The longer suppressor was much quieter on the second test
22lr are dirty ammunition to shoot, any tips on prepping the baffles to keep them clean longer or what you used to clean them.
DRY and then Brake cleaner or for baked on lubes Oven cleaner.
Having purchased a Banish 45 a few years back, I've come to the conclusion that it's silly and will never buy another supressor.
Mine came finally , however I can't get it to unscrew. Any suggestions? The banish 45 is super easy to take apart . This 22kv2 however won't budge out the box.
I just picked mine up last week. I figured for another stamp on the bogo, what the heck. I wouldn't pay money for it though, at least not the v1 I got. I have a use for it, so it's not that big of deal, but I wish they would have just offered half off a regular Banish 22 instead. I will say the thing weighs nothing, so there is that.
I guess weighing nothing and doing nothing fit well together. 🤔
Does it work as well as 22 Pinkster says it does on a bolt action or lever action?
Haven't had a chance to test it yet. I don't have a bolt to try it on, but I'll give it a shot on the 10/22. I don't think there's enough volume to handle the 22 mag I was planning on using it on. I am hoping it will give enough added backpressure to help my p22 that doesn't like to cycle. @@gunjack66
Not allowed here in California sadly.
We're not allowed to have anything decent here
@@jacobdelgado7343 I built some awesome glocks and one great 1911. All with red dots, ported barrel, etc. But yeah, most of the cool stuff we can't have.
What is the official db reduction?
Banish 22 vs Banish 22K V2?
Can you do a video on cleaning a suppressor?
They sound the same in the first example. Least from here with bose ear plugs
Are those lights on the steel targets? Never seen that before. 🤔
Can you do an overview of the traditions crackshot?
Seems like a more limited use silencerco switchback though.
Hello, from A beginner in France. Thanks. Question = Same suppressor for 9mm and 22 lr : possible?
Nice
What's with all the failures in the black pistol?
@KentuckyBallistics what is your favorite vampire movie? Mine is Blade, especially the opening scene of the first movie
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May as well get the Oculus and run in short config.
Sounds exactly the same with that can or without it.
Nice. But I need a little more, and I don't think it's worth the tax stamp. All the years of me squirrel hunting I never had a problem with them running back in the holes after the first shot. Some of my best hunts were with Aguila Supermax HP's. Loud as all get out, and the squirrels didn't mind neither as they fell victim to it. Plus unsurpressed makes you feel alive out there in the woods.
I got one on the BOGO and was really disappointed I have the. Longer version and want to return the v2. It sucks. I tried it on two rugers rifle and pistol with cci quite 710fps. Almost no difference between the can and no can. That was a bait and switch. My fault for not researching it first. Silencer Central has been slipping on customer service in the last couple of years.
who makes the flash indicator for the targets?
seems great for rifles but not so much for pistols.
You can use the little suppressor for fishing weight lol
Still hard to heat the Kopis.
Curious, but what’s the difference between a clip and a magazine? Is clip just slang? Or is there a physical difference?
A clip is a piece of metal, usually a strip or block, that holds several rounds together from at the base of the cartridges, aligned in one or two rows. Ammunition clips usually come from the factory with the ammo already affixed to the clip. The clip is inserted into a firearm or into a permanently affixed magazine that is inside the firearm, and after the rounds are shot, the clip is ejected or removed and usually discarded. Well known firearms that use clips are the M1903 Springfield and the M1 Garand. A magazine on the other hand, is a spring fed device that feeds rounds into the chamber of the firearm. It can either be permanently affixed inside the firearm (usually called an internal box magazine), or it can be detachable, which can be repeatedly inserted and removed. Common firearms like Glock pistols and AR-15 rifles both use detachable magazines.
Where you been plinkster? Long time no video
On a pistol this sounds the same as unsuppressed. I listened on 2 different audio sources and couldn’t pick the suppressed vs non. On the riffle it made a huge difference. Definitely would not consider this for a pistol at all.
Thank you for the review, now we know this suppressor is useless, thank you again.
Can’t really tell the difference in the first demo. Maybe in person would be able to tell the difference?
Not much difference but it probably good for muzzle flash.
What kind of license do i have to have to get a suppressor ? And how do i get it ?
You have to be 21, a state that allows them, and no criminal record. If you can buy a pistol, you can buy a supressor. Check out Silencer Central. They can answer all your questions.
Okay thank you for the information
Hey. Didn't know Woody did gun videos
Why is the rifle so quieter than the pistols? Is it due to the action?
Closed action and longer barrel.
I shoot hundreds of rounds of CCI Quiet out of an 18.5" barrel, and the impact on steel is louder than the round. It hits steel hard enough to flatten 40 Gr. lead to the thickness of aluminum foil. Why spend the money on a suppressor?
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Good for plinking and huntin' small game.
Shooting in a holler. With the echo i can't hear a difference between suppressed or not suppressed. May just be me.
Don't have that kind of discretionary money to throw after a small noise reduction if I'm going to wait a year and pay the cash I'm going with the full size can
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I don't understand why the short suppressor worked better on a rifle?
Yeah, nice. But I still refuse to pay $$$$$$$$$$$ for the pipe that people in New Zealand can freely buy at the cash register in local grocery store for $10.
That Uber long Henry Frontier was the worst example to use.
WHEN I GO SQUIRREL HUNT'N I BRING THE GRAND MASTER SQUIRREL
Thanks for showing me that the small Banish is a complete was of money. What a joke. I own two CGS HYDRA 22 suppressors. They are 9nl6 $250 and 100x the suppressor that Banish is.
I would just get the full size. I have the full size.
Just get an oculus it’s both
22LR is close to hearing safe without a suppressor. This suppressor on camera still seems to be fairly loud unless you put it in a rifle and shoot the CCI standard velocity load. This suppressor just doesn't make any sense to me. A lightweight short suppressor on a 22 handgun that only makes it a little more quiet is a waste of money, "Hearing safe" on a short barrel 22LR is really not much of a gain.x Adding another 2''-3'' to a suppressor to make it more quiet is better for both rifles and pistols
22 pistols arent hearing safe haha you might have lost some of your hearing if you think so
@@kodyrothe2306Yes, over the years I have.
.22 cans should have a 0.22 tax stamp