Berrysmans B-12 vs Seafoam - 10 Day Test on Set of Valves - Does Seafoam Actually Work?
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- Berrymans vs Seafoam 10 Day Test where we submerge valves covered in carbon. After 10 days we pull them out and see which one cleaned better, Seafoam or Berryman.
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Been using it for years . First heard about it at the drag races. VEry surprised , and even made skeptical , by the great price. Price has managed to stay low throughout the years. Have tried many other expensive,even professional, products. This one always seems to work. Stopped wasting money , and started saving it instead. Used it countless times on cars and trucks , new and old. Have even argued with auto parts employees over it, when they try to sell me seafoam or STP (on sale). Ive even had one say that its too strong and will cause my seals to dry /crack……. Nver happened . I used it for the whole lifetime of my Nissan,as a fuel addititve , and as a solvent to clean my injectors directly through the intake. always felt the diffrence immediately. Never ever felt like i wasted my money and got robbed (unlike others). Never had no engine trouble. Sold it at 280000 miles going strong. Repaired the valve cover seal , my friend (long time mechanic)thought i had a rebuilt engine because it was so clean inside. I have amazed and made many other believers of friends, by helping them tune up/maintain there car using berryman b-12. First they are skeptical, think its too good to be true, waste of money. Once they experience the difference in power. Smooth idle. Car even starts and feels and sounds different. Ive had some older cars feel renewed instantly. Now everyone is constantly wanting to use it on there cars, or asking me how to do it again. They all want to know so they can help other people/themselves with there car maintinance. First and only mandatory , and consistent product on my list for tune up supplies. Other items can be substituted , But for Berryman there is no close substitute. Thanks to Berryman for offering such a quality product and keeping it affordable. Helps many people , especially when times are tough to keep there vehcles running great!
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another revised update the 2008 kia rio still going strong at 335,000 miles thanks to b-12 chemtool use along with marvel mystery oil since it was new. truely great products.
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When I saw the glove melting, I immediately assumed the presence of XELENE... I checked the ingredients in BERRYMANS B-12... IT HAS XELENE! It is a very good in dissolving these TARS and CARBON DEPOSITS...
You have to remember that he used these products straight from the bottle, they were not diluted with gas , so it would be less harsh on rubber that is used in the fuel system. When mixed with a tank of gas and follow the directions on either one , that's why there is a certain amount of product per gallon of gasoline.
Their both good cleaners but Berrymans dissolves and softens carbon deposits better. I've used Berrymans for years too.
Sea foam was made for 2 stroke outboard motors. Sea foam is an oil base doesn’t burn the same.
in your head maybe...
Actually it doesn't break down carbon deposits at all. What it does is dissolve gum and varnish.
Excellent demonstration. I've opted for the Berryman. All I need now is a big enough jar to soak my Chevy V8 in.
Berryman's is less than 1/2 the cost of Seafoam. I've been using it since the early 70's. My Dad used it on everything that had a motor in it back in the day. It even helps break down oil sludge in the oil system prior to changing the oil or doing a flush.
I have used in the crankcase as well. They used to sayto do that on the can but removed it a while back.
I cant get Berryman here in Germany, I need a piston soak and wanna use something similar, woud liquiy moly injection cleaner work just aswell?
@@carenthusiast6748 yes thank you
It's a good cleaner- if you can soak and assembeled system's parts with it - specifically like an pre-oil change engine flush, not for intake valve cleaning. If you have loose metal parts there are better, faster cleaning chemicals and methods.
@@carenthusiast6748 Yes, it would work, and the longer the soak up to 2-3 days, the better. Almost any fuel system cleaner will work. One problem is that all of them will react with polymer seals in the engine. This isn't a problem during the soak where the chemicals that get past the rings drip direct to the sump. It can be if the oil is not changed immediately after the engine is brought up to operating temperature. The speed of chemical reactions increases as temperature rises.
I was always a seafoam fan, until i started using barrymans in small engines and the way that stuff cleans out the carbs mixing with gas, is simply amazing . All my generators, mowers , powerwashers, everything runs, idles perfectly. And of course, les than half the price of seafoam at walmart. Its the best. You seen it melted your glove. Imagine how any fuel system is cleaned out.
Finally someone who understands. Look at all the comments about "oh if it melts the glove, think what it does to the fuel lines" idiots.
All that rubber componenent they are not in danger to be melted?Sea foam is not melting the rubber!Maybe is better to pour in your cylinders to clean up the rings faster...i am using Sea foam,and i am really happy with it!
@@GREENTICKETRO Rubber gloves are rather thin, don't you think? Plus the product is diluted with gasoline.
Trust me when I say that I add one bottle of Berryman B12 every three refills to my S8. Never had an issue, and all of the benefits are noticed. Thank you Berryman!
It would be interesting to redo this test while applying heat to simulate a running engine. The products could perform completely different.
yes, this test is irrelevant, those substances do not work like this.. completely different chemical processes take place while the engine is running ...
Also in a real scenario the cleaners aren't soaking the parts lol
Irrelevant. Berryman does what it is supposed to do, for half the money.
@@gabekenyon4882 When used as directed you won't have to worry about the stuff sitting and soaking if you think about it it's just like medication when taken as directed it will work like it's supposed to but if you only take it when you feel like it then it's not gonna be as effective
Thanks for the time you took to share your demonstration with us. It was very informative.
Great presentation and very well done, I have been a Mechanic for over 40 years and I have worked on Motorcycles, Cars, Boats and Airplanes.
Berryman was passed down to me from my Dad who was a Mechanic as well, There is no substitute for BERRYMAN if you really want to get the job done.
Is it safe to pour it in your fuel tank, in Honda Accord v6? Thanks
@@marthab4172 you're lucky I was just bored going through comments. I would dilute xylene at a 15 percent ratio if you're really trying to clean out your tank. Turbo guys do that all the time and Berryman is long story short xylene with a few fillers. But yes you definitely can
My as soon as you Rodeo has been sitting for 8 months and I'm trying to research whether I should put Marvel Mystery Oil in my motor or fuel tank or use berryman JUST in the fuel.
@@marthab4172 yes
This was the video I was waiting for. Good comparison.
Chemtool is half the price normally, and it's been my go to for the last 20 years ... I'm only 36. And that recommendation was passed on to me from the much older professional and backyard mechanics that I had the privilege of learning from.
My Yamaha 650 had been sitting for a few years and went to crank her up I couldn't get it to stay running, obviously. So I pulled apart both carbs and was greeted with a green gunk in every orifice, jet and crevice it could crawl into. So naturally I went to O'reilly's, my local auto shop, to pick up some Seafoam. When I asked the gentlemen behind the counter to lead me to the Seafoam he said, " hey, why don't you try this B12, its half the price and works great." Whatever, I got nothing to lose and its half price, so I grabbed 2. I soaked my jets, tank and filled the carbs up and let em sit for 2 days. That B12 cleaned the PISS out of that thing. Those jets didn't look that clean when I bought them new! Anyway, I'm a fan. Seafoam is great too but this worked just as good if not better for carb cleaning applications and its half the price. Bike started right up.
First off, thanks for wearing gloves. Too many people think the skin is safe enough when handling car fluids and chemicals.
As for the Seafoam, I've used it with my engine oil, the engine has 130000 miles on it. After the Seafoam treatment and an oil change, I was shocked to see that the new engine oil stayed clear for well past 5000 miles. Before the treatment, the oil would turn dark within the first hundreds miles. So yes, it does clean the engine. As for the B-12, I'm not sure I would pour that inside the pistons or inside the carter, that stuff looks a little too strong for various engine seals and o-rings.
This is awesome... Thank you for the test. I have never used Berrymans and I just started last year using Sea Foam. I didn't know anything about Berrymans until your video. I just subscribed to your channel. I look forward to more videos. Thanks brotha.
My first experience with Berryman B-12 was in 1990 with a 1981 Buick Skylark 4 cylinder throttle body injection ( wife’s car ). She told it would not idle at stop and since it was an automatic she had to put it in neutral at stop signs and stop lights and keep her foot on the accelerator. So I got on my motorcycle and drove to the parts store and bought a can of B-12. I got home and removed the A.F. cover and filter and had my wife start the car. The old throttle body injection was a single injector nozzle sitting vertical over the throttle body spraying directly into it. It was half clogged and just spitting. I poured the entire can of B-12 into the tank which was about a quarter tank. Within minutes the car idled on its own. After which I drove to the gas station and filled up. I’ve been using B-12 ever since.
Can't be more clear than that. Good job!
I put B-12 into my 2004 Tacoma's gas tank and it did well. I put B-12, about 3 oz, in my Honda Rebel's tank and my carburetor started leaking. B-12 will eat seals. My takeaway is if you drive a lot, a tank of gas a week, use the B-12. If you don't drive a lot, use the Sea Foam as that is what it was made for. B-12 is also cheaper. Both are good but be careful with the B-12.
Kevin Sissons 3 oz in a 1.5 gallon tank?what does the label suggest?
B12 ate his rubber glove.
I only use marvels mystery oil in my small carbed engines to clean them out.
+mr1bienvenu1 finally someone who understands
Kevin Sissons b fuckyoh
I was on the phone, came back to computer, and this feed was running. I'll tell ya something. I have never used any of this stuff. But, I like the demonstration. Nice presentation, good information. Thank you for the upload.
I neglected to drain fuel in my KTM last fall. The bike would only run with choke on so on a last ditch effort before tearing apart the carb I ran Berrymans b12 at 2 oz to a gallon. It took about 15 minutes with some sitting and reving and viola it runs like it did before I parked it. I am a believer!
The stuff works!
Ive used seafoam on everything I've owned. I've gained power and smoother running engines with consistent use on old engines that previous owners neglected. I cant speak for Berrymans, but you cant go wrong with seafoam
Either product will work if used in an engine in good running condition, to help keep it in that condition. Neither can be expected to help fix a very badly broken one unless its parts are disassembled and manually cleaned.
Using Berryman for years. good stuff, very strong carbon cleaner.
Berrymans took some paint off my motor. Stroong stuff!
Great review. Good info to know. Thanks Bundy!
Thanks for the comparison test!
Been using Berrymans longer best there is out there 40 years auto repairs for the public.
I prefer berrimans but have used sea foam. This might change my mind but I have a feeling berrimans will win
I am gonna use the B12 to clean my fuel lines only. Had the tank professionally cleaned at the radiator shop so before I install it and fill up the system and start the engine, I need to clean the full lines and replace all the rubber hoses. Based on your tests, I believe I choose the right chem.
Mr Bundy I love your videos you are factual and informative thank you please keep posting
+dino thank you
Also a big fan of SeaFoam, but really do believe I'm switching after this video. Thanks!
My Grandpa and my Dad used Berryman B 12 chemtool in the spray for cleaning carburetors and later in the fuel form. I've used it for years and it's the real deal on cleaning fuel injectors and filters and getting rid of water in the gas.
You know it baby!!!!
I used B-12 fir the 1st time this week and within 20 miles my engine was responsive again and winding out to top rpm. I used it as a fuel additive which is a method I RARELY employ but now I swear by it. I have 2 more scooters with similar symptoms but I am confident
the B-12 will handle the workload. I will be trying it in my ultrasonic cleaner in the near future.... Great Product!
I use seafoam in my 2002 Chevy Tracker with 208000 miles. I noticed in another comparison between seafoam and gumout, the gumout did better. Thanks for the video, gives me something to think about and consider.
looks good. thanks for doing the job.
It has been my experience, b-12 chemtool has been the only product that makes fuel varnish wipe away. I use it all the time when rebuilding small engine carburetors. It also was the only product to easily removed all the carbon on the inside of my intake manifold (it was REALLY bad, machine shop ran it though the aluminum cleaning machine and it didn't touch it inside the intake. This stuff made it melt right off. Took a few cans ;) Now the specific product I'm using is the carb/choke/throttle body cleaner.
+Joshua Hamilton i have seen B-12 eat carbon from the inside of an engine.since then I have been a believer in it. I know a lot of guys swear by Seafoam, but it's so dang expensive.
I put a can of B-12 in my 72 Pontiac 400 when I do an oil change while the engine is cold, let it run for 5 or 10 min and also in the gas. The stuff works great.
Very fair comparison...I also use the Berryman's & have for many years. It really is effective for clean fuel system maintenance.
Seafoam is a miracle worker ford 302 with lifter noise that sounded horrible now gone in less than 100 miles of putting six ounces of seafoam in crankcase! Thank you for saving me a cam and lifter job! easily a grand saved!
I've used Berryman carburetor cleaner for years it's the best it cleans throttle blade better than gum-out! wow, it melted your gloves! Berryman, Berryman!
Great job!!!! I know for me, when i put a camera down in the cylinder i had carbon removed from the sea foam. it was noticeable. Now i did run 2 bottles in about a 1/4 tank of fuel. (Silverado 26 gallon tank). So for me it worked. But this is a good data point thanks for making the video
I'm guilty of the same thing. Instructions always say to top off the gas tank after putting it in, then driving till empty. I only fill up about 1/4 full so the cleaner is more concentrated. Noticed better results everytime across multiple cars. Problably hell on the O2 sensors though.
That must have smoked out the neighborhood lol
My personal mechanic told me that berryman is the best on the market & it's the least expensive, i used it before & liked the results. The berryman did the better job
B-12 is great stuff!
Good video, how about comparing a valve soaked in 100% gasoline as a control vs valves soaked in gasoline mixed with the ratio of the gas/additive recommended on the label?
ditto
well why not try diesel fuel also? then one in trans fluid, both should clean better than gasoline....
Trying additional things sounds great, but you still need a control.
tap water? distilled water? add in steam or boiling water
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A friend of mine worked at Tom Jumper Chevrolet in Buckhead in Atlanta and they would buy Berryman Chemtool B-12 in 30 gallon barrels
It was piped throughout the working area of the dealership.
They always used Chemtool to clean injectors and valves along with the fuel system... I have used this for years and I'm a believer in this
On the label it says Toulene while other fuel additives say " pertroleum distillents " which is an oil additives
Toulene is like an alcohol based additive.... Nuff said!!!
Toluene is not an alcohol based product. It is an aromatic hydrocarbon (petroleum based). Xylene is a slower evaporating version of toluene. Xylene is a major component of gasoline. Just to be clear here.
To me, SeaFoam smells like isopropyl alcohol.
Xylene is an aromatic hyrdrocarbon but it’s not a major component of gasoline. Xylenes are used to make reformate which is a gasoline blend component.
i have a 94 nissan pathfinder , that I own for 22 years that has a 18 gallons tank , i used 2 cans of seafoam in the same day when i fill up the gas tank i do this once a year , it made the car run quieter and smoother, if seafoam could do this to my car. Then berryman b12 will make a better improvement on the emissions control system ... " great video "..
Thanks for video man much appreciated
Great info. Definetly will use berryman from now on. Had been using MMO.
berrymans in the tank one time straightened my rig out
That was pretty intresting. just the valves sitting in jars for 10 days. you should try mixing them with fuel to see what the out come is
I agree test with fuel and should test while in a heated state to help resemble engine use.
I was thinking the same thing but the B12 was suggested to me by my motorcycle guy. Think I will the B12 and see if it helps my Nighthawk.
Yes but works better with higher engine combustion temps. So this is likely at 75-85 degrees
With combustion temps after about two tank fills of B12. Carbon would be knocked off. Sure not like new but clean enough.
@@Berkner80 I have Nighthawk also. Been using Seafoam in the last tank of the year and running the carb dry. Might do it with Berryman's next winter.
I agree with you, BG. Been using Berrymans B12 Chemtool for a very long time. I juts put some in yesterday. After some driving, the car feels and runs much better. My car is due for an oil change, i will wait until my gas tank is 1/2. Then add new oil, so everything will run smoothly!
I mix the two for older trucks that have sat for along time. I put it in the fuel and the mix works really well for cleaning the carb.
ive used berryman b12 and that stuff is potent,,,going to stick w it
Thanks for taking the time to do the test but imo you should have did a cleaner and gas mix test instead if a straight up cleaner test. Nobody runs straight cleaner in their car. They always have to mix it in with their fuel.
Liked the video looked up the Mobil 1 on the grill. With 25% less weight it made sense the Mobile 1 started to burn first.
I've been a Seafoam user for many years. After watching your video I'll try some B12, it does appear better in this test.
My two favorite!
I believe ill stick with Berrymans .
nice video on the b12 i never heard of it but i have heard of seafoam but hands down i will be using b12 in all of my cars and trucks from now on out
I like B12. It really does work well.
terrific video clear and plain results !!! 65 years as mechanic nothing explained better!!! pay more why ??? use what works with out double the price!!!! i have worked on every thing from mowers bulldozers A 4 JETS i AM A REAL MECHANIC I LOVE TO SOLVE PROBLEMS! THANK YOU...
I've been using berryman since the early 80s to clean carburators. berrymans blasted dirt and stains that gumout couldnt.
10 days in ethanol gas would be a good comparison also. Acetone in berrymans likely is why the glove.
Diluted both with correct proportion in gasoline would be a good comparison also. Please update video. Glad you did this trial anyways.
I might have to try that.
I have had great results with B12. It is a very strong cleaner. I only use it when know I will go thru a tank of fuel in a day. I mix 1.5 bottles with 35-gallons of fuel in my E150 and 1 bottle mixed with 20-gallons of fuel in my Jeep.
I also use the Berryman's B12 Chemtool aerosol for cleaning carbs and intakes and occasionally as a starter fluid. Never used gloves with it so no melting issues there. But it sure does make my hands go numb...
+JeepCollector91 B12 rocks!!! Don't use it to clean your contact lenses 😜
thank you i really appreciate the info! Go B12! 👍
I have used BERRYSMANS B9 in my Dodge p/u 1978 400. When a lifter would get sticky I used it in my engine just before an oil change. worked Great .I pulled the valve covers off and the top of my motor looked like it just came out of the dip tank with 154,000 miles on it
i was actually shocked by the Results on this video i would have thought Seafoam would have won but now i know better great video
+James Taylor thanks for watching and subscribe if you can, really helps me out.
yeah i have been subscribed for ages i like all your videos
Ford Ranger 4cyl sat for 3 yrs,, ran but ran rough with 1/8 tank of gas - 1 can of seafoam and top off at the station, Ranger made it 60 miles , dropped cylindsr 3 ,, compression guage confirmed !! Carbon held valve open ,, SEAFOAM WORKS ,, sold it running on 3 cylinders
This was more scientific than you might think BundysGarage. I’m going to start using a combination of the B12 and Seafoam’s “Hot Soak.” Well done video!
Good vid. I also use Berrymans, and like it. It is also half the price of Seafoam. I pay $3.17 at Walmart
Berryman costs half of Seafoam, this ought to help anyone to make the decision. Been using Berryman, it works great.
B-12 gave my explorer vacuum leaks. Thought I would give it a try for 10k miles. I have two explorers and the seafoam always was the best no matter how much I used.
+Danie James how did you use the B-12? To cause leaks in your vacuum lines?
B12 in the fuel tank, Sea Foam in the oil. Will use Marvel Mystery Oil after those treatments for future treatments of the gas and oil.
Nice demonstration 😉
The results are in and you did a fair shake Barryman's in the lead thanks for taking and sharing your time and effort
Not to mention, by bie rubber and plastic seals.
You really think they would still be in business if their product ate seals?
I don't think you can beat B12 for cutting gasoline varnish/dirty carb./old dried bearing grease/stains/ink/paint, just about anything. I used it on an old 352 that was parked with gas in it for 17 years, rings stuck, compression 50 psi on #8. Filled the cylinder with B12, now it's one of the strongest cylinders. B12 and Mystery oil, best. But I doubt that B12 will have much effect on internal engine carbon.
B12 works. For $3,19, its the best there is.
It looks like the berrymans is penetrating metal not just the carbon, The seafoam looks like a more gentle approach, you can still see the shine from the valve afterwards
It's the oil in the Seafoam compared to oil stripping of the Berrymans.
Yes- looks caustic and oxidizing. The missing variable is the outcome in it's heated diluted phase. Heat changes the chemical stucture-activity of virtually everything. The Berrymans looks like it contains acetone or the like. Concentrations would need to be considered given poly parts. Also, the ideal scenario is to not get clumping but dissolving, which may seen at odds with each other, and has to be considered given how far the engine is 'gone'. Def a fire hazard- rags etc.
It is actually toluene. a widely used industrial product in the lacquer industry, parts cleaner in some dealerships and thinner/like solvent for paints and used as an octane booster among others. It would seem successful at removing gas varnish from old - bad fuel .The advise of one person, to use in a tank over a long drive, seems like the best option to minimize exposure thus potential damage.
Combustion effectiveness is always a factor. This guy (article below) does not seem to find it successful overcoming poor designs however. Common sense, not apparent today given the longevity of synthetic oils, does not consider ever-present combustion pollution, of course made worse with poor design. It always helps. Consider changing oil more frequently always. A worst case example-s of manufactures better and weaker designs of GDI. www.enginebuildermag.com/2017/10/solving-gasoline-direct-injection-issues-facts-fictions-gdi/
Not to mention berrymans ate his gloves, what do you think that's would do to gaskets and intake seals? Sea foam is more gentle and safer for your engines. Sea foam is meant to be used for the long run in your fuel. It will prevent carbon build up if used regularly.
good job man, thanks
Thanks for this.
You need heat, friction and pressure for accurate results.
Awesome video. Thanks a lot.
I would go with berrymen's, it seems like it came off more easier than the seafoam. But all in all seafoam didn't do a bad job.
... on the bench.
Interesting test. TY for presenting that. It might be even more instructive to repeat this but with the cleaners at the dilution they would be when mixed in with fuel at 1 or 2 oz per gallon rather than at off the shelf strength.
I like SF, however it is what it is. Both compared at 100%, Chemtool seemed to nuke the carbon and its bond to metal much, much better than SF. Diluting to manf. spec would probably require a month or 2 to see results. And more than likely the results would simply show Chemtool attacking carbon more than SF.
This is a 'maximal' type of test.
No worries bro!!! At least you took the time to do this test. Obviously to me...Berryman's. But heating the products up like one of the commentors below would definitely help...Considering the engine heat. Thank for the video! :)
Hey Bundy, I have an idea for a way to shut up the "experts." Fill a jar with a mixture of gasoline and B-12 like you'd put in your tank, and place a few rubber parts from a fuel system in there with it, for 10 or 20 days, then show them how the parts are still intact.
It still wouldn't be a true gauge of performance, because (1) the mixture isn't heated like it would be in a fuel system and (2) there's no ignition/combustion taking place. About the only way that you can really get a good understanding of the performance is to do the 100% jar test here, or do a before/after borescope vid like ChrisFix did. I don't think he tested the Berryman tho.
@@RockandrollNegro surely if the fuel is heated before it gets to the cylinder you'll be worrying about a hell of a lot more than rotting plastics 😁
Im about to put some in my motorcycle's 5 gallon tank, one ounce per gallon so 5 ounces. My only fear is the float needle and seat partially deteriorating and then flooding the entire intake with gas. However, I feel like Mr.Berryman wouldn't put "Fuel Injector and CARB CLEANER" right on the can if they knew it wasn't safe. They seem to make specific products for specific uses.
It’s not going to eat your fuel system.
@@hpt08 what parts are rubber beyond the fuel hose?
I like seafoam because it's easier on gaskets and seals. B12 is great for really gummed up engines but probably not a great idea to use it as a maintenance additive. Just my opinion. Great video BTW!
I have a 2017 Rav4 that was bucking at times and under powered in Eco mode. I added 1 can of Berryman's to the tank when filling and told my wife to dive it to almost empty. To my surprise the little 2.5L engine came back to life and is running great. I hated using Eco mode because of the lack of power but my wife wants to save fuel but I can know drive in Eco mode with no issues. The Berryman's really does work! I think it was the injectors that didn't have a good spray pattern and this took care of the problem.
Great experiment! Something I wanted to point out is that it makes sense that seafoam is "weaker" as it is made to be added into the oil/crankcase, and shouldn't harm the seals. Note how the Berryman's melted your gloves, imagine what it would do to seals if it was added into the oil/crankcase.
Not saying one is better than the other, but it is clear that they have different purposes depending on what application you are using. I would recommend seafoam for a light engine flush and to keep new cars clean, while I would recommend Berryman's on older vehicles which have more carbon deposits.
It evaporates very quickly, especially when the engine gets hot. May be good into the pcv valve, let soak for a few minutes. I don't know about 10 days!
Both of these were used full strength. What are their recommended dilution ratios in gasoline? If one is recommended to be used at a much higher concentration in gas than the other, that may alter the results a lot.
Good Video, Appreciated ...
Great video. Thanks.
+Joshua Hurley Thanks for watching.
I find it interesting that the Berrymans looks, smells, contains toluene and eats those gloves just like lacquer thinner.
It also contains acetone.
B12 added to your tank is such a lean mix that it doesn't attack the rubber parts.
Yeah, I've only read 1 or 2 comments here where anyone actually used it in their tanks at the recommended rate. It will clean the fuel system without harm but not many modern cars need their fuel systems cleaned. Gasoline is a very effective varnish cleaner. And as I already posted before, I doubt that B12 has much effect on internal engine carbon such as on piston tops. Baked on carbon is tough. Carbon below the valve heads is mostly stuck on in a matrix of flash dried gasoline so the soak test wouldn't be applicable to piston top carbon removal. One of the most effective ways of removing baked carbon is a water steam which has been used for a hundred years or more. The hot, dried porous carbon absorbs the water on the intake stroke then instantaneously turns to steam at ignition and breaks the bond. Where B12 shines is parts cleaning. It used to be sold in aerosol but it's flammable and a health hazard if not used carefully. Like anything else, you have to know what products are appropriate on what materials. I've used it for more than 30 years but I no longer use it or any cleaner in the tank. If a modern engine doesn't run right B12 isn't going to fix it. It needs work by a skilled mechanic that knows wtf he's doing. (sensors, all kinds of them) I've never used SeaFoam. It's probably a good product, so is MMO but none of them are "engine overhauls in a can."
Wow finely some one that talks the truth! I am a GM mechanic The 3.6 has a very big problem with carbon on top of the valves! and direct injection has a lot to do with it No fuel or additive going over the valves!
+Randy Stiles all the GDI engines, Mazda, Mercedes, BMW, GM (3.6L), Ford, Kia, Hyundai, are experiencing carbon on the valves and pistons. Also the rings stick on them and we are seeing oil in the upper intake manifold as well. Piss poor design!
BundysGarage Have you ever used any BG products? They have a great direct injected service kit that works well on sticky rings and valves full of carbon.. This is a big problem with the eco boost and I have had my customers on the 44k from BG for awhile and its far superior but costs more. Good video though
+Mustang Guy363 yes BG is a great product. My name is Bundy and I support this message.
Great video...thank you!
I am a mechanic with 35 years experience. Nothing in a can will make a mechanical repair. If you need a new seal, replace it, don't buy an additive with "Stop leak". That being said, these two products are great at achieving two different results. Seafoam will remove carbon when introduced through the intake system, and will help remove condensates from oil. Berryman as a fuel additive will move water and clean fuel system parts that contact liquid fuel, and remove fouling from plugs. Not really a substitute for a tune-up, but a quick way to pep up a rough running vehicle. The difference shown here is solvent compared to
lubricant. Still interesting, thank you Bundy's Garage!
I use gasoline sent into the engine via a carb or fuel injectors. Been working great for 40 years now...
+Bill Malec yep most people do
Very informative video on the comparison of products.
Berry ate though the gloves. WOW!
I'm skeptical on what it would Do To GASKETS.
I'll stay with SEAFOAM, to be on THE SAFE SIDE.
Rodney Green I agree
Do you really think Berryman’s would still be in business today if their product was eating fuel systems! Come on man!
BundysGarage Well you do have a point. I was wondering will this help my carburetor from Sticking?
Thanks bro! Great to know what works. You are the messenger, be ok with getting killed lol. Thanks a lot for the great video!
I had an engine rebuilt before I used Sea Foam( 2 years ago) and it ruined my valve guide seals, according to the master mechanic.
Now, you be the judge.
Thanks again.
+Neil Williams the SeaFoam ruined the seals?
The valve guide seals
Snap on makes a tool to grab valves out of a glass jar but it is pretty expensive.
+Tommy Truth I think MAC makes it actually 😜
Tommy Truth snap on sales department must smoke crack when they come up with the prices on their crappy tools. I bought a $300 snap on ratchet set around the same time my wife bought me the same set up in Craftsman. I had to have one snap on 1/4" ratchet sent in twice and the 1/2" ratchet replaced. I think I've actually used the Craftsman set twice as much as the snap on. and I've had zero problems out of the Craftsman set..
+lwj w nice
lwj w I hate craftsman I have a set and the feel so cheap and the gear ratios are horrible I like my crescent set much better
I got the exact same tool from Harbor freight, and with the 20% off coupon i could afford to buy a new one every other time I use it after it breaks. Might I also mention if you leave a valve sitting on the shelf in Harbor freight for 10 days, the fumes in there will liquefy any carbon deposits that may have been on it.
be interesting if you compared them after being heated. The seafoam seemed to be darker after 10 days.
Hey Bundy, where's my Bundy's Garage T-shirt? Excellent video and experiment of those chemicals....
+Michael Smith Just finished the design. Now I need to find a print to make me some.
B-12 hands down. thanks for the video I'm going to use B-12 to clean my pistons before i rebuild my engine.
Berryman B -12 the bomb cleans carbon great !!
And Berrymans B12 is half the price!
I wonder why it's half the price buddy
Wrong ... B-12 is 3 times the price of Seafoam
Interesting. Think I'll go with the Berryman's.
good vid lots of controversy i use sea foam in the crankcase to clean valvetrain.