2022 4AGE 16v 1600cc Hillclimb Starlet Introduction
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 มิ.ย. 2022
- Introductional walkaround with lots of technical details and in-depth close-up video on our 1980 KP62 Hillclimb Toyota Starlet.
This is 2022 specification we run currently in hillclimbs around Europe including some FIA European Championship rounds and German KW Berg-Cup.
Racing history with this car goes back over 20 years. Owner and builder Mikko Kataja built the car in the early 2000 for rally grp F in Finland and rallied several years before moving to time attack and circuit racing and later to hillclimbs. Car was run first time in KW Berg-Cup 2013/2014 and 2014 Mikko won rookie of the year title and second place in the 1600cc class with the old 5k 8V engine and more or less rally specification against purpose build hillclimb machines.
2016 this car conquered Pikes Peak with it's new built 4AGE 16V engine and year later Mt Washington hillclimb in New Hampshire. So we can say that the car has a very unique history seeing winter rallies in Finland, wheel to wheel road racing and time attack and later some really extreme hillclimbs around the world.
There has been so many different evolutions of the car over the years that it would take hours to explain the whole story. Anyway what remains still original is the chassis including the rollcage that was fabricated 2001-2002 by Mikko like the rest of the car. The car was Mikko's final thesis on the racecar mechanics studies. Remarkable is also that no matter where the car has raced, sometimes against much faster cars on the paper it has always succeeded and the throphy collection is quite diverse. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Man I love this car! Thank you Mikko for being so open with showing us all the little details and inspiring
Agree !! This is the best technical walkaround i have ever seen !
Thanks, yeah i was thinking it would be easiest to do something like this as i get quite a lot of questions what has been done to the car. Ended up filming the car and warmup really spontaniously without much planning and realized when editing could have done some things different, but maybe we will do part 2 at some point with even more indepth look on the electronics etc as there is so much more than the quick look in this video... Maybe then i could also explain not just film and write some details on the footage.
Sehr sehr geiles Auto :)
@@kevkay1737 Danke! :)
This is one of those beautiful things that doesn't happen very often, I've always been curious about the full build on this car and wanted to know the full breakdown. Rather than 2 minute teasing videos on it, a full breakdown. Much is appreciated.
Thanks and very welcome, i thought maybe my video walking around is just boring, but happy to find some people liked it. :)
@@VHTRacing It was well worth the effort. You have done a great job. I appreciate you feeding peoples curiosity with such a unique and cool car.
I daily a 4k KP., Your car is a beautiful machine.
An absolute masterpiece Mikko - the jewel remains that engine !
Thanks! :)
i probably had a shot of 10.000 downshifting my almost stock 4ag!!!! i know the feeling plus some extra fear. . thanks for the sound ....keep up
awesome car brilliantly done. So good to watch, thank you Mikko!!
Yours is my favorite hillclimb car in the world. Thank you for the tour. Amazing work!
Εξαιρετικό αυτοκίνητο. Είχαμε ανάγκη αυτό το βίντεο. Συγχαρητήρια.
What an awesome machine!! It was great seeing you on Trento Bondone, and especially hearing all those 11000rpm 😄 hopefully we will see you on some more hillclimb races!
Thanks. Was fun again in Trento, too bad we had the brake issues so couldn’t beat my time from 2019. I think I had change for 11:20s at least. We do races regularly, but work takes a lot of weekends this year especially.
This thing is epic! As someone who is currently building a hatchback Hillclimb car, I can see all the little touches. In particular the wheel position sensors! Nice electronics setup too.
Maximum tune,no boost!
Super N/A!
Congratulations!
A fellow N/A lover!
MANY THANKS FOR SHARING THIS VIDEO.......
Mikko, you had a dream and you made it! Congrats and best wishes!
Thanks 😊
Mulțumesc pentru prezentare
Felicitări pentru mașină
Congrats on a fantastic machine!
Thanks.
Pffff what a machine! Beautiful
Thanks.
new wheel set up, love it
Thanks, but the BBS wheels are already since 2020.. :) We sometimes run old set of tires in practice runs with the old wheels, or intermediate/wet tires with SSR's or Compomotives.. Unfortunately would have been too expensive to order bigger amount of these BBS's with different specs.
Che spettacolo , complimeti !!!
Awesome machine, thanks for sharing
Thanks.
This generation of starlet has always been one of my favourite cars. You guys have done something absolutely increddible. Thank you and everyone who worked on it so much for sharing this amazing work with us.
Thanks! 🙂
@@VHTRacing no, thank YOU :P
Absolutely beautiful car and engine
Thanks!
Just can’t get enough of this car, so want to build my own 4age 16v monster 😍😍😍
4AGE the little underdog engine.
@@VHTRacing awesome bro must say
Great Video, thanks 👍👍👍
Thank you too!
Good job !! 👍
Μπράβο👍 my friend ... I watch it since 5k !
🙂
Love your work and the car model..... and when its a combo i really fall in love with them.
I really love the 4age but i really wish to see the old 5k engine screaming in the future and their specs cause i want to build one to myself.
absolute amazing car and fantastik driver💪👌
Thank you ☺️
Hats off 👍
Thanks.
This is car nerd heaven. No shitetalk just cars.
Just beautiful 😍😍😍🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thx for the sneak peek!
I like how you keep it competition ready, not showroom ready, this is no garage queen.
I feared the worst for suspension, but was surprised, that high spec performance and yet the chassis is kept so original the suspension could be swapped back to 100% OEM almost overnight.
That commands my respect, it speaks volumes about a very thought out, carefully modified, out of the box (in a different sense) suspension setup.
A rare feat in a day and age where most people massacre the car until there's nothing other than outer shell resembling an old Toyota, and they won't EVER see the performance this car is putting out.
Thanks, yes this car still somewhat resembles the original Starlet many ways. So not just a tube frame racecar Starlet look a like. Many things are kept true to original car due to regulations, but I think it is also what brings the challenge and joy on the whole thing. When you beat some serious cars with this “old car” you can say yes still has a solid rear axle, yea still has the original McPherson front suspension and yes firewall is intact etc. let’s see what the future brings to this car. Next update is going to be a big one, but I think stays still true to the nature of this car.
@@VHTRacing Don't let me dissuade you from doing whatever you want with the car, even if unoriginal to the car.
Saw enough mods to determine it's not getting plates again anyway!
superb.
Truly magnificient hi quality engineering sir..
Thank you 😊
OMG love it
Bonjour un Grand Merci pour cette Magnifique Vidéo Merci cordialement JNM
Cool car. I hope I see it in osnarück this year.👍👍👍
your TOYOTA is realy fantastic !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
全てが完璧に見えます
ありがとう
“WOW”
Awesome cool
this car is awesome, I would love to put a mini quick change in my Opel GT
It's great. Takes 15mins to change the drop gears on the axle. There are few downside's on these axles, but generally quite happy. Very light especially this 7" version with the magnesium center and all the light options like gun drilled axles and lightened ring gear etc.
Unglaublich viel Arbeit! Klasse Auto, klasse Fahrer+Engineering…🤩 …hoffentlich hält die Hinterachse! (Hockenheim/April 22 ⚙️🔧👍). LG an die Frau!
Danke. Ja lauft gut momentan 👍
as an owner of a kp61 and a fx16 this makes me want to move the motor over- wow
Brother runs a Starlet with a 1300 twin cam Suzuki Swift motor fitted with big hair dryer. Has 6 spd Quaife sequential box. Pokes out around 270 ponies at the rear and runs a big ass wing. A quick and effective weapon.
Not quite as pretty as this rocket but from 10ft away who would notice.
Got any videos on TH-cam?
@@fodenpetersen8992 yep a couple. Look up Import Parts Specialists. Hawkeswood Hill Climb 2021 & Three Mile. The footage is a bit crap but will give u an idea what the car is like. Hawkeswood Road had loose gravel on it which made it dangerous. The cars gearing also limited top speed. Brother has another diff now.
i hope these dont get as popular in the future so i can still wanna get one, because i will probably never be able to get an ae86 and these are just as cool
the locals at my place take 86’s parts and install em into their starlet 🤘🏼
@@musky420 yea i see a lot of people do an axle swap and i think the 4age fits the starlet really well
We had already end of 90's a street Starlet with 4AGE and AE86 T50 and rear axle, brakes etc. Was fun car to drive around, had it as daily driver for several years. And they are already hard to find. In europe they are getting really rare to find at least in good condition. In Finland oll of them have been used in rallying.
@@VHTRacing yeah it sucks these great cars are getting so rare. guess i will have to import one from japan
Wow.
🖤
11k rpm with non 20valve 4age Mikko olet hullu, kiitos että näytit speksejä
😍
which kind of transmission is fitted on this Special Starlet? Dog mission produced by "Holinger" ?
Hyvä Mikko! Ei voi kun ihastella.. näytä niille miten vanhaa toyotaa prkl viedään 👍
Kiitos, yritetään! 🙂
かっこいい！
🚀🚀🚀🏁🏁🏁
Sorry if i missed it in this video (theres so much info!)
Youre using a block girdle and beefed up bearing caps in the engine correct? What brand are these? Thanks!
I did not mention anything on it in this video, but you can see all internal parts on the full engine rebuild series of this engine i did few years ago. I'm using MRP girdle on this engine with the original caps and ARP studs. I'm not 100% happy with that solution and if i would ever start from scratch again with the 4AGE i would make something different, it's not that it wouldnt be beefy enough, but something to save weight and also lover the oil pan even more would help. Every 100 gram counts on these cars and if you could save a kilo from the engine it would be huge.
@@VHTRacing Thank you so much for the info. The MRP girdle is actually the one that had my eye- So thats quite interesting to hear.
However my goal isnt to build a 11-12k RPM beast haha.
Also super interesting to know theyre the standard caps!
@@SidewaysGts it was quite a process to get the girdle sit correctly and also to get the main tunnel straight and correct size what i wanted. We needed to machine the block and the caps etc and finally line bore/hone. I would not recommend using such girdle even on some over 200hp builds, like typical rally engines which are not dry sumps and wont spin anyway much over 9000. They do not need it, for a light street engine with some mods definitively not needed.
@@VHTRacing In your experiences do you think the girlde would be necessary / recommenced at all if youre only intending to rev to 9-10k rpms? What kind of machining was necessary to get that girdle in?
@VHTRacing Did you do anything to eliminate the valve cover grommets? Or did you use the normal grommets for the valve cover nuts?
Just eventually got the original Toyota grommets they are the best solution. All more or less generic aftermarket parts are bad, the origina ones work well and last long if not abused.
Just eventually got the original Toyota grommets they are the best solution. All more or less generic aftermarket parts are bad, the origina ones work well and last long if not abused.
@@VHTRacing I forgot to ask, how many races do you get out of your engine and transmission before needing a rebuild?
Currently the gearbox is in the car since 2016 (Pikes Peak was the first race with the Sadev sequential). It has not been overhauled at all and I will need to do it later this year as 3rd gear is starting to show some engagement issues. I had to slow down the shifts lately. Engine target is one hillclimb season and overhaul every winter. Depends if problems occur.
😍🥰🤩
Sora alustaa seuraavaks alle ja vetomiehiin💪😎
Tarvis muutama muukin juttu muuttaa, mutta vetomies on listalla vielä joskus (jollain muulla vehkeellä) 😄
these coil pack are weak ?
Did it cost much to build this
Or was it all home built
It's good to see people still investing time and knowledge in reasons of passion...What's the torque steer like?
Thanks. Torque steer? It’s rear wheel drive, there is some snap oversteer if you turn the TC down and not be careful on the pedal.. 😄
@@VHTRacing Sorry about the dumb ass a question. When I started watching your great video on your fantastic build I thought a Starlet was front wheel drive, then got to the bit about the rear end, and saw it was rear wheel drive, thought it an awesome set up with the quick change..... Even after watching it twice .... I still asked the question....( and I was lying in bed this morning thinking that was the dumbest question to ask ) That's what happens when you get old and you start work at 2 AM. I have loads of questions about your build, but as I'm new on here I'll have to go back through your video list and have a cruise about.
Here's an interesting video about rear end development th-cam.com/video/pcQTXh9j0t0/w-d-xo.html
Again I apologise for the question....
Here's another question. Have you done anything with the steering Ackerman. It looks like there's a bit of caster on it.
Kyllä on hienosti rakennettu! Onko tulossa lisää jotain muutoksia?
Kiitos. Vähän se polttelis isompaa moottoria ens vuodelle..
Joskus Mikko k.n kans jotain juteltu sun moottorista ja enemmän oot kertonut videoissa. En voi muuta kuin hattua nostaa sinulle. Mahtava nähdä joku oulun poika maailmalla tekemässä hienouksia! T. Kempeleestä!
Kiitos. Koitetaan värkätä. Tuli muuten 20v täyteen tän auton kans siitä kun se ekan kerran oli ralliautona liikkeellä omin voimin. Välillä mietityttää, että voishan sitä rassata jotain muutakin vekotinta, mutta tässä on jo niin paljon historiaa, että hankala vaihtaa enään.
Muistan kyllä. Samoilta seuduilla ollaan. Tuli itselläkin oltua kartturina niihin aikoihin. Tuostahan on hyvä tehdä aina vaan paremmaksi turhaan hommata jotain muuta autoa ja on ollut kyllä mielenkiintoisia videoita. Ja jos ei kaikki rahat mene harrastukseen,niin harrastaa väärää lajia😂
No niinhän se menee, joutus opetteleen uudet jutut kokonaan. Kempeleessä tuli muuten käytyä about kuukausi sitten viimeksi nopeasti kun oltiin Oulussa käymässä. Vaimon puolen mummula on siellä. Mikonkin ”uudella” pajalla Kempeleessä pitänyt käydä, mutta ei joka paikkaan kerkeä. Meillä on lukkoprojektikin ollut sen kans menossa sovittaa mun vanha Cuscon lukko tohon nykyiseen akseliin, mutta pitäs viimeistellä piirustukset vaan materiaali siellä kuulemma odotellut jo vuoden varmaan 😂
👍👍👍TOYOTA the Best👍👍👍
Did you guys stack two sets of roll center adjusters?
yes, but so that they are "locked" from the inside of course for stability.
Juma mikä vehjes ja speksimäärällä varusteltu. Onko tuossa ihan vain Boschin DBW mikä teurastettu ja laitettu sen moottori pyörittämään akselia noille rumpuläpille? Huikeata nähdä tämän tason touhuamista.
Tattis, sähkökaasumoottori on ihan tehty tuollaiseksi. Harmi kun nuo ei tullut tuotantoon ja niitä ei saa mistään enään. Tuo on mallikappale minkä onnistuin saamaan. Varakappalettakaan ei ole 😐
すごくかっこよく キレイにまとめて作られてますね cool !
Mikko is the front body piece something sold on the open market?
No it’s something I made few years ago. We do have a mold so that we could produce them if there is interest as small batches. It however only fits good on the bugeye and would require those matching flares etc
I was just thinking about barrel throttle bodies for my AW11, where'd you get those? Or did you make them?
Our own design. I once calculated it would cost around 4000€ to make similar package and that doesn’t include the carbon plenum.
@@VHTRacing any chance of a video on that? I started designing one in CAD that could be 3d printed in a high temp filament like cf nylon or something similar.
It might show on some of the engine build series videos we did few years ago on this channel. There is for sure tons of photos of the barrel setup on our Facebook page under the 4age build folder. The barrels and barrel bodies are Aluminium and I also got the trumpets 3D printed in proper filament that can be used for structural automotive parts. Barrel has some important things to consider with the bearings and tolerances. I ended up using a self lubricating coating in the barrel and to get the clearance right was not easy.
161ps per liter.11000 rpm limiter. Impressive.
It is amazing, took quite an abuse again last weekend in Trento. Had no more temperature issues which was great.
Are the primary measurements outside or inside diameter? is it because stepped?
OD and yes two different sizes makes it stepped!? 🙃
Old school
With modern twist. 👍
May I ask what crankshaft you are using?
Moldex crankshaft made in Michigan US.
@@VHTRacing Thank you. Might check them out for my 7age
How often does the engine need a rebuild after an event? Every time?
Not after every event. Usually once a year after a normal hillclimb season.
J aimerait tellement avoir ce modèle que j ai toujours adorer en 3 portes cher mitsubichie y avait la colt aussi pareille j adore cette caisse ❤ 😂
What you need to do, is make a road car version, and put it into production, to rival the Porsche Restomod market!!!
Still miss my Starlet ... it's the best car in the world!
We've kind of done that already in the past (~2000 we had a street staret with 4AGE and AE86 drivetrain etc) and more recently with the blue 2zz turbo Starlet. Have you seen these cars?
@@VHTRacing I’ve seen the blue 2zz. Are donor cars attainable over there? Extremely rare in Canada unfortunately.
I did not know porn was allowed on TH-cam :) what a great car, well built in all aspects!
haha, thanks! :)
How much money have you invested in that rocket? Looks nice
Thanks, these are the questions you don’t ask 😂
I love your Starlet, but how much does your 4AGE scream 😍
It screams from the intake entry to the bottom of it’s stroke for all the 77 millimeters and to the end of the 3” exhaust 367 times per second.
And all that with 125% effort.
so, since 5 Y ago, how many Starlets you already "convert" to a screaming 11.000 rpm 4-age?🤩
Only this one. Sold some piston/rod/crank combos around, but none has really been either build complete yet or had the other stuff to support this kind of performance.
Das ist eine feine starlette neuester technik. Aber alter schule
Danke, ja alt und neue gemischt :)
I dream of my kp starlet race car I'm building to be like this but funds are low so I'm just doing what I can
This car started also with very small budget. I would have never been able to build it like this at once. It is development over 20 years.
Which version of the 4age is it?
Is this a general question or more detailed which of our developed tunes versions it is? 😊
@@VHTRacing More like which generation of the 4age is it. Bluetop, redtop?
@@sirsomebody1453 block is 20v blacktop and head is 16v early blue top. Pretty much nothing else is original.
256bhp from a 4age, Jesus Christ. Imagine an aw11 built to this level, I wonder if it would be faster if it could still be brought down to the same ~700kgs
Hard to say, in theory the mr2 aw11 should be better platform what comes to weight distribution and center of gravity height. I think you could get them better in the mr2, but also our Starlet is not bad i have put a lot of effort to get the weight distribution better and lower the cg as much as possible. Never driven mr2's myself, been just a passenger on short rides and it feels also quite nice, but might be that depending on the course and type of road these two cars could have their positives and negatives. One of the fastest home built hillclimb cars in europe in my opinion is Manuel Dondi's Fiat X 1/9 it is with a 2l na engine incredible. It is low and wide and has crazy cornering speeds. When i saw that i actually thought could the mr2 be similar if properly built. Search him in TH-cam and you will be amazed if you dont know that car already. Anyway i think the car and driver needs to fit also together, even if some car is faster on paper it doesnt mean it will be faster on 17km up to Mt Bondone...
Why didn't you go with 20v head
Don’t think it would be better.
its a beuty😅😅😅
La même caisse que talbot lotus non je pense à ça mais non 😂
Danke 👍👍👍👍👍👍💪💪💪💪💪💪