AE94 Toyota Corolla 4AGE 20V Silvertop - Engine clicking sound
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มี.ค. 2013
- After completing this conversion and rectifying the idling issue, the engine constantly makes a clicking sound.. i have yet to work out what it is. but it doesn't seem to affect driving also a new engine side mount is needed as the car does vibrate quite a lot from the running motor. the current mount has around 270,000kms on it! other than that, the car is coming together slowly, i have installed some digital gauges in the meantime...
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I've worked at Toyota dealership for five years now and seen this issue more than once... What not to many people know of is that often it's repairable... You will need to remove the VVT gear, then disassemble the gear itself. Inside you will find a bushing/small cushion thats attached to the camshaft itself. The reason most get a DTC is because the cushion itself gets worn out. After the disassembling just turn the bushing 180 degree. The worn side is now pointing inwards, usually lasts for several years.
thank you so much for sharing that, there are so many watching this video waiting for this response!
I hope it will help! I've had this procedure done several times on friends and family's cars. Haven't failed yet (haven't at least until this day had any of the cars return with the same issue), and since a VVT gear is around 500€ it's worth the shot. If you/someone has already decided to remove the gear, the actual modification is not that hard.
For obvious reasons we do NOT use this method to repair a customers car, and i doubt any Toyota dealership will... Just a tip to save some money for you Toyota enthusiasts out there unfortunate to stumble upon this issue.
Raine Lapinniemi u have save so many pockets my friend.
bro I have this clicking sound in my land cruiser 1FZ-FE is it similar solution
Would you happen to know the part number for the bushing. I'd have same symptoms on my 20v that I would like to try it on. Thanks
Wow, great video for getting answers. I did know these little old corollas had variable valve timing lol Toyotas are awesome. I usually make my videos on engine work.
Super Clean 👍
Sweet video man, I love the red white and blue engine theme, nice touch. I might even do a similar theme the next time I video a build. Clean ride. Hope you don't mind me stealing some of your ideas lol, it came together well for a very balanced look under the hood, not too much. Good job!
Go for it by all means :) need to see more people keeping these rollas on the road.
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That sound is from the VVT pulley. When they wear out they make the engine sound like a diesel at idle. Very very common but fortunately doesn't affect driveability or performance. Not too much of a major to swap out for a new one but the pulley itself is quite expensive to buy brand new. Typically only makes that noise on idle, so for now I wouldn't worry about it, unless it starts driving you mad, lol. Make sure you keep your oil level topped up as the 20v's have a habit of burning through it.
cheers!! i really appreciate it. This is the first 4AGE in the family..
but yeah i have noticed it does go through oil..i thought maybe piston rings..but as other and yourself have told me not to worry about it as it's normal..
again much appreciated :)
thats alright, sorry for late reply. you will need engine, gearbox, wiring loom and ECU. then the rest is pretty much installation. it is a great project and a great learning adventure, dont give up! good luck! :)
1:34 the engine makes a pretty good beat
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No worries mate :). Usually the cause of the oil usage is the valve stem seals. At 8,000rpm the amount of pressure through the engine is enough to force the oil past the worn seals, which gets burnt and comes out the exhaust. So you just have to keep an eye on the oil level or you'll run a big end bearing and be out of action completely. Changing to a thicker grade of oil (such as 20w-50) might help, but as long as you just keep an eye on the dipstick you'll be fine ;)
thank you, much appreciated nonetheless :)
hey im currently in the process of completing my silvertop swap and would like to know how you solved the idle issue, also where did you run the vacuum lines for ac and power steering?
Thanks
was just about to tell you it's your VVT cam pulley, didn't realized so many people answered already :/ good luck mate! (Y)
my idling issue was pretty much the fact that some vaccum lines i didnt need had to be plugged as shown in my other video "idle FIXED"
Does this cause anything else but that noise? like does something eventually break down when the noise starts? thinking of putting a 20v on my rolla.
check your front and rear mounts and check your timing marks pull the calve cover make sure they lined up cam gear right as well
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hola hermano! me gusta tu video y tu vehiculo.. tu vehiculo esta realmente hermoso, yo tengo uno igual al tuyo y del mismo color y eh querdio modificar igual al tuyo.. un saludo desde venezuela.. exitos
Yes it is a VVT pulley sound!
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nice men
I have been looking for those rear taillights and panel for a while. Where did you get them? The car is beautiful btw!
Pedro Medero it’s like nothing here where I live these are everywhere in Jamaica and are like $40 us
cam does what it wants to horrible to drive with sometimes I too am having this issue and yet to rectify as a new pulley is almost as much as another second hand 4age LOL
hey bro what wire did u use to get a rpm signal for your tacho
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Hey man I have a stock 94 corolla 1.6 GL and want to put a 4AGE 20V in. may i ask what else id need to get? sorry for asking i'm only 19 years old and don't know much.
that sound comes from the VVT Solonoid. Removing it will render your VVT inoperative so you will loose power in mid-top range.
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@Andy Aarav no problem :)
It's the bearing in the engine needs replacing
hey dude..i have corolla 1989 xl wagon and want to put a 4AGE 20V in may I ask what else id need to get? and how much it costs from the beginning? sorry for asking i'm only 19 years old and don't know much
if it is a vvt gear buy a motor from a motor yard so u have back up parts if needed if u want great opportunity to do a rebuild on tht engine and swap out when done
If you take The vvt solenoid unplug it and run wires from the battery and touch the male solenoid prongs it should stop the clicking and then apparently you'll know you need to replace the VVT pulley.
bro I have this clicking sound in my land cruiser 1FZ-FE is it similar solution
are all the gauges in your panel still all stock? one-click start. thats cool.
I suppose you are referring to the digital aftermarket ones. I figured they'd be a nice different style
@@HRPMProjects yes I am. i got an AE92 before. this one is 94. so I am thinking panel gauges are almost the same. but seeing those gauges, seems like it was replaced by an aftermarket gauges. but it looks cool.
It was like rocket taking off. anything after 3500rpm was fine save for the unholy tickkity tick noise roaring from under the hood (almost sounded like it was coming from under the car, really low down in the engine even though it's not) so long story short, if you are racing off dropping the clutch etc you really notice it unless your a real smooth driver etc but if it's just daily driving you'll be at your wit's end at the end of the working day. This was my experience with the BT 4age 20v
I had this same setup. The clicking is there to stay. I can't quite remember what causes it but its something you've gotta live with. If memory serves me, something to do with the lifting of the pistons.... dont quote me
nah, the sound was definitely coming from the head. with these motors regular services is a must..this was the result of poor oiling of the VVT gear..still runs fine nonetheless(granted running decent oil in the motor)..just the annoying sound that goes with it.
HR PM Those are your lifters bro. My old 20v had the same problem. Its a typical 20v trait and really doesn't even go away with new lifters. Not much you can do about it really short of a full rebuild of the engine
HR PM Did you replace the VVT pulley?
Eventually I did. The noise was gone.
Yeah haha I thought so, but that's good.
I'm currently looking into doing this swap myself. I was wondering if you might be able to give me a few main pointers or maybe a source you have for info?
Biggest challenge of this swap is the loom harness. Everything else is bolt in. I'll try find info for you.
Where did you get those blue wiper blades?
supercheap auto in Australia - they are silicone material and long lasting
It's the vvt pulley
I need help in paragraph Ignition wiring please... 5A engine change by 4AG 20v Toyota Sprinter in mod 90 help please
Beautiful man, I have the same corolla, can you tell me where to get all this stuff
the minor stuff from ebay, but there are local shops which have this stuff ready to go.
Sounds exactly like when my vvt gear pulley went bad lol. Most likely what that was
Mickey Haddon I think that's indeed what was wrong. If you take The vvt solenoid unplug it and run wires from the battery to the male solenoid prongs it should stop the clicking and then apparently you'll know you need to replace it. I mean I'm not an experienced mechanic, but just something I've seen on a video.
Bosss ano kulay nga yong sa computer box 4age toyota
Totally agree with the sound being the VVT pulley, but as for doesn't affect performance ill tell you a story of when mine went bad. keep in mind not the exact same car but close enough (ae111) the Idle when warm was around 600rpm and was completely gutless. driving was it felt like it was always struggling to breathe and barely climbed in the rev's. but once it did climb. (continued in next post)
Hi, my 1997, 20 valve black top has the same noise, also the oil light come on, would it be the same problem? At idle theres no noise only after 2000 rpm.
Are u using back original instruments panel or replace with one that is for the engine u have in car now
I re-used the original.
Are you getting correct rpm reading n correct p speed reading with original instruments panel
@@rajenojar3206 yes. The factory 4afe and 4age have the same stroke..so rpms reads fine
Have ae 101 ,had 4a cabarator engine change to 5a fe fuel injected car move faster so I was wandering if to change original instruments panel to the 5a panel any advice
I never knew there were AE94 😅😅😅
me neither until i bought this one. in Japan the AE95 sedan was AWD!! -
www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/topic/193219-toyota-corolla-ae95-4wd-sedan/
www.carfolio.com/toyota-corolla-1600-se-limited-4wd-320430
enjoy!
Nice! My dad used to have a white 1991 Toyota Corolla almost exactly like this. I designed a digital layout of it, that can be printed out, folded, and glued, into a 3D model replica. Here's a timelapse video of me building it: th-cam.com/video/G60e5vlTf6g/w-d-xo.html
Guessin 4wd 20v
I'm sorry to tell you. This happened my father's 86. Your bottom end bearing is gone don't leave it like that for too long or it will need a full rebuild
A problem is a misunderstood opportunity..should something like this happen...upgrade to 7A 1.8L block :)
Subaru Impreza wrx sti gc8
I thought your car was a ae86 trueno gt apex
How to replace a 4AGE 20 valve VVT pulley
heres ur problem fix
白色改裝車，改裝的不錯?
I think u got vvt pulley knocking
Sir is it normal that my 4age blacktop idles at 2000rpm when I start it cold
when you start cold the engine tends to rev higher in an attempt to warm the engine up but after a short while it should rev back down to normal spec which is 900-1000rpms
my bt revs at 2000 for about 10 minutes when its cold then when it heats up it returns to normal
the VVTI puley
hey dude.. make a vid of that blue GC :)
it is coming, there are a a few diys i will be posting up for the blue GC8, check out my channel i have an in dash nexus 7 install for it. but yeah i will be making more soon. :)
here you go th-cam.com/video/SQM40LHYDVk/w-d-xo.html
HR PM Thanks bro :)
this seems like vvt pulley problem. Check out this vid watch?v=ekkXQR2AY-s it describes it in detail also helps to diagnose.
Ese es un Subaru Impreza 22B STI???????
1999 Subaru Impreza WRX :)
0:15 is that a gc8?
William Santi yes. thats my gc8 :)
Is that a stock engine
yes stock motor.
Camshaft and valves
vvt pulley
Its better if you put it in an ae86
Shoulda kept it under 11k takumi
You just need your zinc restored inside your motor. ZDDP will fix this, use this engine flush for your best bet: www.protecautocare.com/motor-vehicle-care/engine-flush
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Muffler
this is an AE92 not 94
+Joseph Christian Salas in Australia we have AE92 and AE94. the AE94 was the last ones release in this shape on Australian Roads with the 4AFE motor.
the ae94 was the hatchback ae92.
this is my car right now and it has an "ae92" engraving at the firewall haha
Joseph Christian Salas saloon 4 doors are nine eights, coupe and hatch are nine twos
google ae92 and you'll see :) hehe there is the 2 door variants and the 4 door variant.
remove that stock exhaust
Probably not a good idea it messes with the cars performance. It might sound cool but it's not worth the mechanical failures.
Sir is it normal that my 4age blacktop idles at 2000rpm when I start it cold
it has an auto choke