I feel like Sandy would be a great stand up comedian. He talks all serious but a lot of the times he makes me laugh just by delivering the message in a certain way that I can't explain. Great video.
He clearly likes his old one (I'm assuming a JK with 3.6 L V6), so what he seems to be saying is that the electric + 4cyl turbo performs off road as well as his old one. I'm not sure how that's a sick burn. Jeep folks typically like minimal changes (it's already good, leave it alone!) so I'm reading it as "yeap even though it's electric, it's still a Jeep (aka still great)".
Sandy driving through the woods reminds me of the South Park episode where the elderly drivers are trying to figure out how to get to the Country Kitchen Buffet.
Totally loved this! Awesome. Sandy is my kind of engineer. Able to think and prove a theory in the real world like a real human being. Doesn't prophesy from behind a desk without going outside first. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
I genuinely want to see Sandy absolutely BREAK the Cybertruck that they are going to tear down. Just go to a field/mudhole, and drive the piss out of it, see what it takes to make it NOT work!
Reminds me of the time I leased a car in Wisconsin with intent to drive it to NJ while I was there for a project for 6 months. The dealer said this won't be "garaged" out of state, right. "No sir it won't be garaged out of state." It sat outside the plant or our apartment, never garaged. One time we had a rare, brutal snow storm. A factory worker, thinking he was doing us a favor, shoveled the car out including taking the steel snow shovel to the hood, roof and trunk. WTF!! The scratches were unbelievable. I let someone else turn it in to the dealer.
I have the same grab handles in my VW Syncro, it's meant to be used with the left hand on the drivers side and right hand on the passenger side. It's very helpful when used correctly.
They just said 2022 for Cybertruck in yesterday's shareholder meeting. 2023 for Roadster and Semi-truck. EDIT: they are now in full cell production of the 4680s out of their 10GWh per year "pilot" plant. Plenty for Model Y and Cybertruck until cell production in Texas and Berlin ramps up during next year. -all from the shareholder meeting.
@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 Na, Elon said at the meeting *END* of 2022 to BEGIN production, volume production in 2023. We won't be seeing this till 2023. Maybe a few models delivered to early buyers but that will be it. I'm a minute 1, #3000 reservation holder on a CT 3-motor and don't expect it until 2023 even with that early number.
@@domg7359 I have heard that it won't be prioritized to early reservation holders, but rather to people who are geographically located closest to the factory. Can't remember where I heard that though, just thought I'd share
@@ryankrause8068 It will be a mix of both. Tesla always prioritizes by geography. It's still by reservation number though, in that the earlier reservations in the delivery area get handled first. For me personally, I will be early because my area always receives new models very quickly.
I like the way you casually said you don't want to get a bad reputation after you had just casually kicked the door shut!!! 🙀 Perhaps the damage has just been done Sandy.
LOL! I have the feeling even going to the grocery store with Sandy would be an adventure. I would never forget my seatbelt! He is of course a very capable driver and probably safer than most I've seen on the highways. LOL. That was so much fun. Hope Corey's neck is okay.
A SOFT grab handle over the door… My neighbour who was a paramedic for years and years said he saw so many heads smashed in by them hard grab handles located over the doors (when the vehicle rolls). He insisted that I take off the two in my old car. I noticed in newer vehicles they are recessed.
Where I'm taking the cybertruck , in summer you don't go off road or off trail because above 13,000 feet the alpine tundra is very fragile , but with snow we will go anywhere
I think the power steering uses an electric motor to drive a pump and pressurize the system to drive a traditionally hydraulic steering box. Any time i move the wheel while parked i hear the pump run with a high pitch annoying whine up. Then as the pressure comes back up with not moving the wheel it slows back down and goes silent. No electronic adjustment, just a physical factory steering dampener that is pretty loose. I replaced mine with an 3 way adjustable that i reach under the front to dial a knob and can stiffen up to help with the wander on the highway.
You are correct that the 2021 Jeep 4xe uses a hydraulic power steering system with an electric motor driven hydraulic pump. TH-cam is not allowing me to post direct link to Jeep's website with official specifications, but just search "2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe SPECIFICATIONS" for their pdf document
Sandy " Yeah, Corey's friend lent me an electric off-roader. I was kind of curious to see what the battery was, so we drove over a couple stumps, and ripped it apart......." Corey " Jesus Sandy, that was just to gently drive off road." Sandy " Ok boys and girls, Corey wants you to subscribe..."
My wife has a trail teams 2013 FJ cruiser nice off-road vehicle and drives nice on the road but personally no interest in any other vehicle besides the rust proof cyber truck and scratch proof basically no paint to peel off air suspension I loved how Eli said you could basically take it on the Baja 500!!!!!!!!
This is hilarious. You can see how Sandy was holding back from wanting to push it. He looked proud showing off what a Jeep Wrangler is since he owns one. The guy loves his Jeeps! Makes me wonder if Sandy will take a full Jeep Wrangler EV over the Cybertruck.
I traded 2nd gen volt for one and haven't looked back! The volt gas engine broke down from a clogged EGR valve with the gas engine barely having 15k miles on it after a miserable road trip through the mountains in the heat barely being able to keep highway speeds. Did the same trip in the 4xe and it didn't break a sweat. We'll see how the jeep 4 cyl does but at 8k miles on it already it runs great.
@@markplott4820 My parents have a 2017 Jeep Cherokee Sport, with the 2.4L engine. Its actually not a bad engine. The 9 speed, ZF built, transmission is a bit annoying in the mountains, though. 4th and 5th gear are spaced so far apart that while in 4th you'll zoom right up the mountain, then it shifts into 5th and you lose speed, then it shifts back into 4th and you zoom up the mountain. I get tired of this, and put it in manual gear select mode and leave it in 4th while going up the mountain. Something this ZF 9 speed auto does is downshift when you have cruise turned on, going down a hill, but on a long enough hill it keeps downshifting until the engine is at 5000RPM, and suddenly you're accelerating again. Also recently found out that if you have cruise set to a particular speed, then you increase your speed, then take your foot off the gas, it downshifts to slow you back down to the set cruise speed.
I'm sure Wrangler guys don't care, but I'm thinking of all the branches and paint scratches being done to this vehicle. A Cybertruck I wouldn't mind taking a brand new one through there. My only concern is would it get stuck on those steep hills due to it's longer wheel base?
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Does it have an option to be just electric? My wife’s Chrysler Pacifica hybrid doesn’t have an option to just use the electric power but we have used about 2/3 rds electric so far. Hoping to get a Tesla van someday and I’m waiting dor my cyber truck
He was running the Jeep in electric mode the entire video, so I would think that answer would be a yes. It only gets 25 miles of range in EV mode, though.
Four wheel low for sand and bumps? LOL. I remember the time out here in California I climbed just totally rocky 30° incline for about 4 miles and I didn’t quite feel that good and when I got to the top I realized I was still in 2 Wheel drive. Jeeps are amazing. I guarantee you you could’ve run this course in 2 Wheel Doctor No problem and not even noticed. Also doesn’t look like he turned off traction control or you would’ve been able to swing in the back and around those terms. Also, I had a real rubicon. Two doors manual transmission :-)
Does it feel like an EV with instant torque and no shifting? The volt was good because it was basically an EV with gas assist and range extension. So it felt like an EV with or without the gas engine helping.
if I build a vehicle and have you drive I would say "have at it" that's what its built for plus it would be nice to see what you would like to change about it.
I have a question about the drive train in this Rubicon. We can see from this video that it is capable of electric-only propulsion - the electric motors can drive the wheels for a limited time (small battery, it's a hybrid). We didn't see you use the internal combustion engine on the Rubicon for propulsion. Is it correct to assume that there is a full mechanical drive train in the car that can also drive the wheels? Or is the ICE used as a generator to charge the battery?
Like most hybrid's it's a parallel hybrid, meaning that the electrical motor drives and is driven by the same gearbox and axles as the ICE engine. Series hybrids like you describe (driving a generator which charges the battery) do exist, like the BMW i3 Range Extender model which is a true series hybrid, and the original Chevy Volt where the ICE engine could only be directly coupled to the wheels at highway speeds under heavy load. But this is a standard Parallel unit.
@@Wrkncacnter777 Thanks. Appreciate the clarification! This is what I expected. Stelantis, Chrysler, Jeep (whatever) has deep expertise in mechanical drive trains for off-roading. The Rubicon is probably the highest expression of this mechanical engineering art. I'm not surprised at all that they went with what they know. But... it's old tech. It's complex. It is going to generate plenty of maintenance costs. By *adding* electric drive components, complexity actually goes up. This type of vehicle can't be built with fewer assembly steps, fewer parts, higher reliability, or higher energy efficiency. It is, in other words, at the end of its developmental potential. Distributing power to wheels can be made much simpler and more effective with a pure electric drive train. In principle, a vehicle like the Cybertruck or the Rivian is both more producible *and* will deliver better traction control, better reliability, and higher energy efficiency with the added bonus of better rollover resistance. Whether the first generation of those products will exceed the traction control of the Rubicon - the beneficiary of many decades of refinement of its technology - remains to be seen. But I have no doubt that electric off-roading vehicles will achieve better off-roading results, in time. We are witnessing the end of an era in this Rubicon.
I've always wondered about an series hybrid offroader that has 4 motors, one for each wheel, completely removing the transmission. No need for transmission, differential locking, no need for low range, you can do it all from the electric motors part. 2 inverters, 4 motors, have a ICE engine to act as a generator and a small battery just for emergencies.
@@alanmay7929 Reliability and no maintenance of moving parts that directly/indirectly touch the rough terrain, and absolute control of torque distribution.
@@manu144x that means absolutely nothing mate, EV drivers are just good for the pavement, no one is going to take their EV to a remote location with no possibility of going back. Finally the millions of electronics in EV won't survive in harsch compared ICE.
@@manu144x the gearbox, transfer case and differential locks gives absolute control of traction. Land rover has the best traction control in the world, even rivian can't compete, same with mercedes gwagen, land cruiser, hilux.....
@@alanmay7929 Those may give significant control, but we're talking a whole other level. Also, there's the redundancy aspect. That's the ultimate in variability without a complicated mechanical system.
I understand about being gentle with the loaned vehicle and this being a convenient course to get to - but 90% the course could be handled by an old VW Beetle. (The course, not the trip into the woods.) Probably 100% if you zoomed over the steepest parts to avoid getting hung up on them. Carefully zoomed.
My nephews nephews complained their Dad drove like grandma and Mom drove like her hair was om fire! so only longer trips the two boys world beg their parent to let Mom dive!
when i was trained to cut trees (lumberjacking would just inflate my ego) they told us there is a sweet spot in cutting stumps to rip off oil pans. Im fairly sure my instructor was satan
"I need something to tide me over till I get a Cybertruck."- Not sure that's the marketing Jeep was looking for.
LOL! 😁
Ct won’t be able to do anything in off-road world too big
I purchased a 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee with a Mercedes CRD common rail diesel to ride me over. A little luxury in my old age.
@@Story_Teller_Everyone True, in our (Michigan) forests. Two door Jeep is ideal for tight maneuvering.
Tesla fired their PR department but it's OK they hired Sandy (via stock profits)
In this episode, Cody can't see, Eric nearly gets run over, and Sandy makes donuts
I like the Top Gear intro!
And this is why we subscribed lol
Ummmm, donuts.
His name is Cory by the way
@@jm100368 typo
I feel like Sandy would be a great stand up comedian. He talks all serious but a lot of the times he makes me laugh just by delivering the message in a certain way that I can't explain. Great video.
Thanks
Grumpy grandpa. Jack Rickard was the master of this.
Miss that guy.
@@TedKidd Can you imagine those two together talking shit on some (any) topic... That would have been epic.
LOL! Sandy kills it again.
I cannot wait for the Rivian R1T Teardown.
Thanks!
Every time the trees where hitting the paint I kept thinking, so that's why Cybertruck is stainless.
Lol...
Always amuses me how 4X4 drivers get so worried about a few scratches, seems it's often more the look than the work.
The Cybertruck is just a lot of hot air! Made out of oxygen!
@@gmv0553 Time will tell, but been hearing things like that said about Tesla for ages and those comments never age well.
.....and paint would require a huge capital inve$tment.
“This car performs just as good as my old one”
Sounds like a compliment but it’s actually a sick burn 🔥
Its not a sick burn.
@@alanmay7929 yeah it is
He clearly likes his old one (I'm assuming a JK with 3.6 L V6), so what he seems to be saying is that the electric + 4cyl turbo performs off road as well as his old one. I'm not sure how that's a sick burn. Jeep folks typically like minimal changes (it's already good, leave it alone!) so I'm reading it as "yeap even though it's electric, it's still a Jeep (aka still great)".
Thanks for not running me over Sandy. 😂
😁 No Worries
This comment is UNDERRATED!!! :D
Sandy driving through the woods reminds me of the South Park episode where the elderly drivers are trying to figure out how to get to the Country Kitchen Buffet.
And it’s often said that you lose 20% of a card value when you drop it off the lot… Then another 20% when you lend it to Sandy
Totally loved this! Awesome. Sandy is my kind of engineer. Able to think and prove a theory in the real world like a real human being. Doesn't prophesy from behind a desk without going outside first. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
I genuinely want to see Sandy absolutely BREAK the Cybertruck that they are going to tear down. Just go to a field/mudhole, and drive the piss out of it, see what it takes to make it NOT work!
Not looking at a Rubicon priced out of this world.
I'm sure the dealer wont mind the scratches when you return it :)
Reminds me of the time I leased a car in Wisconsin with intent to drive it to NJ while I was there for a project for 6 months. The dealer said this won't be "garaged" out of state, right. "No sir it won't be garaged out of state." It sat outside the plant or our apartment, never garaged. One time we had a rare, brutal snow storm. A factory worker, thinking he was doing us a favor, shoveled the car out including taking the steel snow shovel to the hood, roof and trunk. WTF!! The scratches were unbelievable. I let someone else turn it in to the dealer.
I have the same grab handles in my VW Syncro, it's meant to be used with the left hand on the drivers side and right hand on the passenger side. It's very helpful when used correctly.
It's also handy to have them attached to the windshield when the roof is removable.
I loved to see Sandy treating a Jeep like a Jeep. Also amazing to see all that without the annoying noise of an ICE.
Absolutely cannot wait for the Cybertruck version of this video. Sadly, gonna have to wait until 2023 though.
They just said 2022 for Cybertruck in yesterday's shareholder meeting. 2023 for Roadster and Semi-truck. EDIT: they are now in full cell production of the 4680s out of their 10GWh per year "pilot" plant. Plenty for Model Y and Cybertruck until cell production in Texas and Berlin ramps up during next year. -all from the shareholder meeting.
@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 Na, Elon said at the meeting *END* of 2022 to BEGIN production, volume production in 2023. We won't be seeing this till 2023. Maybe a few models delivered to early buyers but that will be it. I'm a minute 1, #3000 reservation holder on a CT 3-motor and don't expect it until 2023 even with that early number.
@@domg7359 I have heard that it won't be prioritized to early reservation holders, but rather to people who are geographically located closest to the factory. Can't remember where I heard that though, just thought I'd share
At least 2023 some of us will be probably waiting till 2025-26
@@ryankrause8068 It will be a mix of both. Tesla always prioritizes by geography. It's still by reservation number though, in that the earlier reservations in the delivery area get handled first. For me personally, I will be early because my area always receives new models very quickly.
I'd love to see more of Sandy going off roading, Especially in his own truck, I think that would be a great video to watch!
Rough enough to keep us all wachin’ while polite enough to open the door for you, that’s Sandy.
I looking forward for the R1T video where Sandy really get it off road
R1T seems like a good design and well intentioned. I won’t buy one since it will go BK within 5 years.
1:35 wouldn’t it be more cool if Sandy was decked out in rubber alligator boots? Love this channel
Corey was clearly having a good time but in the end the question we all just have to know is......who cleans it up now!
The silence is golden.
I like the way you casually said you don't want to get a bad reputation after you had just casually kicked the door shut!!!
🙀 Perhaps the damage has just been done Sandy.
Nobody else would I want to scratch and test my truck other then Mr. Munro! Love it!
Sandy should sign the scratches.
Wow, hunters are going to love those quiet EV's.
Yeahhhhhh, the Grumpy Old Man is back! I must ad muddy.
Digging the old school music!!
After seeing this. I want more offroad content from Sandy.
When we get the Rivian and Cybertruck we will!
@@MunroLive Can't wait. Also perhaps the Bollinger.
What a hoot! "not my car, don't want to rip the bottom off." 🤣
The suspension seems to control the body over those big bumps very well.
Great to see you have some fun sandy. great video
I love the Rivian tank turn done by a Jeep at the beginning and end of the video.🤣
The coolest Guy on Planet!
Lol sandy just grab it with your left hand when you get in… it’s pretty helpful actually!
LOL! I have the feeling even going to the grocery store with Sandy would be an adventure. I would never forget my seatbelt! He is of course a very capable driver and probably safer than most I've seen on the highways. LOL. That was so much fun. Hope Corey's neck is okay.
It’s mandatory when you put a lift kit on the thing
Sandy needs a Baja road trip!!!! That’s where I learned to drive in the dirt with one wheel drive
Amazing! Maybe some video explaining how ev works in the jeep
Living in the Colorado Rocky Mountains, perfect vehicle.
Sandy - you are a real off-roader, awesome!
A SOFT grab handle over the door… My neighbour who was a paramedic for years and years said he saw so many heads smashed in by them hard grab handles located over the doors (when the vehicle rolls). He insisted that I take off the two in my old car. I noticed in newer vehicles they are recessed.
Where I'm taking the cybertruck , in summer you don't go off road or off trail because above 13,000 feet the alpine tundra is very fragile , but with snow we will go anywhere
"There is a stump right there"...
Remembers me on something: "It go's down... No... (..) "it do go down..."
I think the power steering uses an electric motor to drive a pump and pressurize the system to drive a traditionally hydraulic steering box. Any time i move the wheel while parked i hear the pump run with a high pitch annoying whine up. Then as the pressure comes back up with not moving the wheel it slows back down and goes silent. No electronic adjustment, just a physical factory steering dampener that is pretty loose. I replaced mine with an 3 way adjustable that i reach under the front to dial a knob and can stiffen up to help with the wander on the highway.
You are correct that the 2021 Jeep 4xe uses a hydraulic power steering system with an electric motor driven hydraulic pump. TH-cam is not allowing me to post direct link to Jeep's website with official specifications, but just search "2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe SPECIFICATIONS" for their pdf document
All those trees prolly stratched that paint job , that's why I want that stainless steel ,
Sandy " Yeah, Corey's friend lent me an electric off-roader. I was kind of curious to see what the battery was, so we drove over a couple stumps, and ripped it apart......." Corey " Jesus Sandy, that was just to gently drive off road." Sandy " Ok boys and girls, Corey wants you to subscribe..."
My wife has a trail teams 2013 FJ cruiser nice off-road vehicle and drives nice on the road but personally no interest in any other vehicle besides the rust proof cyber truck and scratch proof basically no paint to peel off air suspension I loved how Eli said you could basically take it on the Baja 500!!!!!!!!
This is hilarious. You can see how Sandy was holding back from wanting to push it. He looked proud showing off what a Jeep Wrangler is since he owns one. The guy loves his Jeeps!
Makes me wonder if Sandy will take a full Jeep Wrangler EV over the Cybertruck.
Love your driving Sandy! But really, that's how people enjoy their jeeps... Looks like you gave some pinstriping.
Out here we call it "Arizona pin stripes." Can't wait for my CT, #424,000 on the order list.
A Tacoma owner wouldn’t be caught dead in those boots! But they look good on Sandy!!
Sandy" i cant really do much w/ this because its not mine". But this is how you shut Jeep doors. He kicks the door shut. Lol
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Fun Look forward to full BEV Jeep with a massive frounk
Great Ad for Jeep. Stellantis should pay you.
Heheh, Sandy returning the Jeep with the paint totally scratched to hell. :)
Dang holding out until the Cybertruck, Sandy’s got some commitment.
Hopefully the Rivian R1T comes out it looks so nice 😊very innovative
Damn Sandy, those are nice gloves! :) Cheers.
Sandy last part was nice.
I think I want to trade my Volt for that... Wow... Amazing machine.
JEEEP with a FIAT engine, no thank you
I traded 2nd gen volt for one and haven't looked back! The volt gas engine broke down from a clogged EGR valve with the gas engine barely having 15k miles on it after a miserable road trip through the mountains in the heat barely being able to keep highway speeds. Did the same trip in the 4xe and it didn't break a sweat. We'll see how the jeep 4 cyl does but at 8k miles on it already it runs great.
@@markplott4820 My parents have a 2017 Jeep Cherokee Sport, with the 2.4L engine. Its actually not a bad engine. The 9 speed, ZF built, transmission is a bit annoying in the mountains, though. 4th and 5th gear are spaced so far apart that while in 4th you'll zoom right up the mountain, then it shifts into 5th and you lose speed, then it shifts back into 4th and you zoom up the mountain. I get tired of this, and put it in manual gear select mode and leave it in 4th while going up the mountain.
Something this ZF 9 speed auto does is downshift when you have cruise turned on, going down a hill, but on a long enough hill it keeps downshifting until the engine is at 5000RPM, and suddenly you're accelerating again. Also recently found out that if you have cruise set to a particular speed, then you increase your speed, then take your foot off the gas, it downshifts to slow you back down to the set cruise speed.
Nice driving sandy
Jackie Stewert? Love it Sandy!
I have a dream of mounting an old Jeep frame onto an EV platform. Pipe dream, or doable? Which ev would you pick?
Sandy needs the new Tesla Texas belt buckle to go with those gloves 🤠
I’m not at all into off-roading, but this was fun to watch. Maybe you can road-trip or rent a Cybertruck in Moab in 2023.
We will go Off-Roading in the Rivian and Cybertruck when we get them.
A perfect spot for Cybertruck aswell. Cory should talk to his rich friends some more....
The CT longer wheelbase will be interesting. I guess crank it up to full 16" ground clearance and slide it over!
You know by the way Sandy is holding to the steering wheel, he is ready to break his thumbs.
Curious. What was the battery %’s during testing would have been. Looks fun.
Didn't recognize Paul with out his Western boots !
If I had groomed that track, I'd be pissed! Lol!
I'm sure Wrangler guys don't care, but I'm thinking of all the branches and paint scratches being done to this vehicle. A Cybertruck I wouldn't mind taking a brand new one through there. My only concern is would it get stuck on those steep hills due to it's longer wheel base?
Hopefully you can do an analysis on the new 2022 Ford Maverick hybrid, love your engineering expertise..God Bless..
THANKSGIVING
Would the flexing affect the electronics?
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Does it have an option to be just electric? My wife’s Chrysler Pacifica hybrid doesn’t have an option to just use the electric power but we have used about 2/3 rds electric so far. Hoping to get a Tesla van someday and I’m waiting dor my cyber truck
He was running the Jeep in electric mode the entire video, so I would think that answer would be a yes. It only gets 25 miles of range in EV mode, though.
Yes it has an electric only mode
That’s super cool, I wonder why they don’t have that option on the van. Good stuff team
Keep tipping those cashiers.
Four wheel low for sand and bumps? LOL. I remember the time out here in California I climbed just totally rocky 30° incline for about 4 miles and I didn’t quite feel that good and when I got to the top I realized I was still in 2 Wheel drive. Jeeps are amazing. I guarantee you you could’ve run this course in 2 Wheel Doctor No problem and not even noticed. Also doesn’t look like he turned off traction control or you would’ve been able to swing in the back and around those terms.
Also, I had a real rubicon. Two doors manual transmission :-)
Does it feel like an EV with instant torque and no shifting? The volt was good because it was basically an EV with gas assist and range extension. So it felt like an EV with or without the gas engine helping.
if I build a vehicle and have you drive I would say "have at it" that's what its built for plus it would be nice to see what you would like to change about it.
You'll have the Rivian soon Sandy
Hopefully
The Scrambler would just be a sawed-off JT 4xe
Off topic but, Sandy needs to ask FORD if they can pay out his pension before they go bankrupt.
Stop talking nonsense mate.
Take the "lump sum" option soon.
I have a question about the drive train in this Rubicon. We can see from this video that it is capable of electric-only propulsion - the electric motors can drive the wheels for a limited time (small battery, it's a hybrid).
We didn't see you use the internal combustion engine on the Rubicon for propulsion. Is it correct to assume that there is a full mechanical drive train in the car that can also drive the wheels? Or is the ICE used as a generator to charge the battery?
Like most hybrid's it's a parallel hybrid, meaning that the electrical motor drives and is driven by the same gearbox and axles as the ICE engine. Series hybrids like you describe (driving a generator which charges the battery) do exist, like the BMW i3 Range Extender model which is a true series hybrid, and the original Chevy Volt where the ICE engine could only be directly coupled to the wheels at highway speeds under heavy load. But this is a standard Parallel unit.
@@Wrkncacnter777 Thanks. Appreciate the clarification!
This is what I expected. Stelantis, Chrysler, Jeep (whatever) has deep expertise in mechanical drive trains for off-roading. The Rubicon is probably the highest expression of this mechanical engineering art. I'm not surprised at all that they went with what they know.
But... it's old tech. It's complex. It is going to generate plenty of maintenance costs. By *adding* electric drive components, complexity actually goes up.
This type of vehicle can't be built with fewer assembly steps, fewer parts, higher reliability, or higher energy efficiency. It is, in other words, at the end of its developmental potential.
Distributing power to wheels can be made much simpler and more effective with a pure electric drive train.
In principle, a vehicle like the Cybertruck or the Rivian is both more producible *and* will deliver better traction control, better reliability, and higher energy efficiency with the added bonus of better rollover resistance. Whether the first generation of those products will exceed the traction control of the Rubicon - the beneficiary of many decades of refinement of its technology - remains to be seen. But I have no doubt that electric off-roading vehicles will achieve better off-roading results, in time.
We are witnessing the end of an era in this Rubicon.
That's why real off-road vehicles should not have paint... eagerly waiting on mine Elon.
Sandy is a badass...confirmed!!!
I've always wondered about an series hybrid offroader that has 4 motors, one for each wheel, completely removing the transmission.
No need for transmission, differential locking, no need for low range, you can do it all from the electric motors part. 2 inverters, 4 motors, have a ICE engine to act as a generator and a small battery just for emergencies.
Lol..... why EV and generator?! Just simply buy a proper vehicle go everywhere offroad....
@@alanmay7929 Reliability and no maintenance of moving parts that directly/indirectly touch the rough terrain, and absolute control of torque distribution.
@@manu144x that means absolutely nothing mate, EV drivers are just good for the pavement, no one is going to take their EV to a remote location with no possibility of going back. Finally the millions of electronics in EV won't survive in harsch compared ICE.
@@manu144x the gearbox, transfer case and differential locks gives absolute control of traction. Land rover has the best traction control in the world, even rivian can't compete, same with mercedes gwagen, land cruiser, hilux.....
@@alanmay7929 Those may give significant control, but we're talking a whole other level. Also, there's the redundancy aspect. That's the ultimate in variability without a complicated mechanical system.
Sandy great job! I hope the Jeep did not get any deep scratches. Could you show us the same trail with your Jeep at your speed?
Um... should we be worried about that leak at the end? Leaky or not - that was a great show!
I understand about being gentle with the loaned vehicle and this being a convenient course to get to - but 90% the course could be handled by an old VW Beetle. (The course, not the trip into the woods.) Probably 100% if you zoomed over the steepest parts to avoid getting hung up on them. Carefully zoomed.
My nephews nephews complained their Dad drove like grandma and Mom drove like her hair was om fire! so only longer trips the two boys world beg their parent to let Mom dive!
What happened to the subzero fridge testing? Did they hire you or pay you to stop? Haha
Frankly we got really busy plus the videos were not doing so hot.
@@MunroLive I thought they were really cool...
when i was trained to cut trees (lumberjacking would just inflate my ego) they told us there is a sweet spot in cutting stumps to rip off oil pans. Im fairly sure my instructor was satan
Looks really fun, but it's MSRP starts at $51,225. Can you do this in an SUV (or whatever) for $30k?
6:08 hands didn't stay on the wheel 😂
Should have taken it to holly oaks orv park, then you could have shown what its capable of. More then those little speed bumps.
Maybe when we get the Rivian.
do you have any plans on checking out the rivian r1t ?
Yes
SANDY - how well does the JEEP 4Xe perform the MOOSE TEST ?
It would probably flip.
Can this jeep be towed behind an RV?
Not my thing, but whatever floats Sandy's boat I guess.
It's not my Car, and he kick to close the Door. 😂