I've been searching for a video like this I just put a nearly identical setup in an f250 the set up for the Terminator is something I can't wrap my head around
Ordered the heritage kit for my 99gt a couple weeks back. Their is couple week wait on orders. I can’t wait to get it and put it on. Got my fuel pump injectors and plugs done.
It was cool being taken back with an old school mod. I went down that road before with my 93 gt and won't go back with what I know now. The whine got annoying quick and engines aren't happy breathing hot air. Select the right HCI and you will easily out power and out run the blower.
Good question! I ground notch in my strut tower brace and welded up the hole. I think some manufacturers make strut tower braces that clear Vortech blowers. HP Motorsport used to sell one.
Good question! It's an option in place of the regular V3 blower. Just call them. The'll get you set up! Great people! vortechsuperchargers.com/products/v-3-si-heritage-series-supercharger?variant=12793581207638
Great video! And nice car!! Super clean. Did you use the factory water pump pulley? For your accessory belt? In all the photos I have seen, the tensioner seems to push the belt very close to the water pump pulley. It appeared you had a little more of a gap there. Thanks for the great video, car sounds awesome!!
Good question! I used the factory water pump pulley. If I recall, the kit routes the belt so that the factory belt is used. If you're using an underdrive water pump pulley, you may need to run a shorter belt or reinstall the factory water pump pulley. If you're keeping the mechanical cooling fan, it's probably a good idea to run it at factory speed anyway.
Not a fan of the Holley, but I now understand that its the end user who decides what efi system he want to tune with. Im glad its working out for you and it looks great. Nice work. Now how about you change those heads, cam and intake, and upgrade your fuel and ignition system and really start to learn your Holley.
@@angry408w7 how does the v3 do on your 408? I have a 408 myself and it seems like it wouldn't be enough blower for all those cubes. I figure it would need something like a T or Ysi trim. How does yours run with the v3 and at what boost level?
@@fordltd1983 does just fine. ti would blow more but overkill for my application. im just about 600 to the wheels with very small heads and cam. na car laid down 410. built for boost. vortech added 200hp.
If I do not have a fmu do I hook the bypass valve vacuum line up to the vacuum tree ?. Also the provided egr bypass kit where does this rout from and too. Thank you
Yes, the bypass valve can go to the vacuum tree. I didn't get an EGR bypass with my kit, as it was a "tuner" kit. What does the Vortech instructions say?
How are your intake air charge temps with no intercooler? Also is your air intake temp sensor in the lower intake manifold or in the tube between the blower and the throttle body?
It's on the lower intake. At this boost and power level, I'm not worried about it. Ultimate power isn't the goal. Just a good, fun driver. And in that regard, this Vortech and Holley Terminator X combo delivers!
@@Mustang-Geek I know you have a very mild build and max power is not your goal. I was just hoping to know what sort of IAT temps you saw at that 7.5 PSI. Any chance you have data logs of driving the car or maybe on the dyno you review and share?
@@MalcolmV8 Manifold Air Temp starts at 165, then during the run cools off to 145, and at the end of the pull finishes at 166. So, looks like a 21 degree increase because of the boost, BUT it's reading basically the same as when the sensor is heat soaked during normal driving.
@@Mustang-Geek I had a feeling that might be happening. I had the same issue and ended up moving my temp sensor to the inlet tube before the throttle body since I couldn't pick up actual IAT due to heat soak. Thanks for the feedback.
@@MalcolmV8 I guess the real question is, "What decisions does the ECU make based upon the MAT data?" If it's pulling timing and adding fuel at 165 degrees, then it matters. But if not, it probably doesn't matter all that much.
Hope to head to the track soon! We *could* run nitrous and the blower together! It would be great to get the torque hit from the nitrous, and then let the blower take over at higher RPM. Hmmmm...
@@Mustang-Geek :) I know it's easy for me to say when I don't have to fix it if it doesn't go well. I would be worried you would not have enough injector up top with both. I worry more around peak torque than peak power.
@@russellbroadwell 36 lb/hr at 43 PSI is good for about 475 flywheel horsepower @90% duty cycle, so I could add a 100 shot. But the 190 LPH pump may be maxed out about there as well. I think it would be more fun to add heads, cam, intake, then turn up the boost.
@@Mustang-Geek it would say on the pulley. might say on the back of it. more than likely the crank us a 6.87". an 8" crank pulley looks like a dinner plate lol.
Did you need an adapter for the 2 bar MAP sensor? My terminator X is on the way and I want to install the kit without waiting another few days on additional parts. I ordered the Holley 2 bar same as you. Thanks
@@Mustang-Geek I’ll pick one up, but just to be clear….the required connector for the Holley 2 bar map sensor is supplied with the main wiring harness, I just have to depin it an repin the 2 bar connector?
@@andrewmcmillan8110 A two-bar map sensor comes with a new connector housing that needs to be swapped on the main harness so it fits the new 2-bar map sensor.
Best sound ever. Would love to see what numbers it makes with a pulley and H/C/I
Us too! That's a future project.
I've been searching for a video like this I just put a nearly identical setup in an f250 the set up for the Terminator is something I can't wrap my head around
Ordered the heritage kit for my 99gt a couple weeks back. Their is couple week wait on orders. I can’t wait to get it and put it on. Got my fuel pump injectors and plugs done.
Factory EFI or aftermarket?
@@Mustang-Geek factory efi getting a custom dyno tune.
@@Justin_03svt Great!
Love that sound, I have a 90 GT with a V1 S-trim, it pulls hard..
Great video!
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i like it definitely on my never ending want list 🔴🔧👍💪
Thanks for sharing, this is ultimately the plan for my Fox. It's a ways down the trough, but are my plans
It was cool being taken back with an old school mod. I went down that road before with my 93 gt and won't go back with what I know now. The whine got annoying quick and engines aren't happy breathing hot air. Select the right HCI and you will easily out power and out run the blower.
HCI is in the future...but honestly I'm really enjoying the car as-is for now!
Where did you run the vacuum line from the blowoff valve
I found an open port on the vacuum tree at the rear of the intake manifold. Anywhere on the manifold will work.
@@Mustang-Geek OK I appreciate it
@@seanharrison5064 No problem. Please share, like and subscribe!
Beautiful sounds
Agreed!
What strut tie bar is that that fits with the Vortech intake tube?
Good question! I ground notch in my strut tower brace and welded up the hole. I think some manufacturers make strut tower braces that clear Vortech blowers. HP Motorsport used to sell one.
How much oil does it take after that
I'm not sure what you're referring to. How much oil it takes to fill it?
Dope channel man ! I’m tuned in 👍💪
Glad you like it! These cars are a blast!
Nice video bro! Wow you can set it up form the hand held device? Did you set it on Autotune?
The wide band on the terminator X does the work!
Oh, and yes: you can do it all from the handheld.
Got a link of where you ordered that v3si heritage kit? I can’t find it on vortech’s site for some reason
Good question! It's an option in place of the regular V3 blower. Just call them. The'll get you set up! Great people! vortechsuperchargers.com/products/v-3-si-heritage-series-supercharger?variant=12793581207638
@@Mustang-Geek Thankyou sir !!!
Great video! And nice car!! Super clean.
Did you use the factory water pump pulley? For your accessory belt? In all the photos I have seen, the tensioner seems to push the belt very close to the water pump pulley. It appeared you had a little more of a gap there.
Thanks for the great video, car sounds awesome!!
Good question! I used the factory water pump pulley. If I recall, the kit routes the belt so that the factory belt is used. If you're using an underdrive water pump pulley, you may need to run a shorter belt or reinstall the factory water pump pulley. If you're keeping the mechanical cooling fan, it's probably a good idea to run it at factory speed anyway.
@@Mustang-Geek thanks very much! Look forward to seeing more of your videos!!
@@89lx98 Much more to come!
Not a fan of the Holley, but I now understand that its the end user who decides what efi system he want to tune with. Im glad its working out for you and it looks great. Nice work.
Now how about you change those heads, cam and intake, and upgrade your fuel and ignition system and really start to learn your Holley.
The Holley is really starting to shine. I honestly love the blower sound, but I can understand why some don't like it.
that blower sounds amazing. i have the v3 also on my 408.
@@angry408w7 Honestly, the Vortech really "makes" the car. Before I was "meh" about driving it, but now, it's a hoot!
@@angry408w7 how does the v3 do on your 408? I have a 408 myself and it seems like it wouldn't be enough blower for all those cubes. I figure it would need something like a T or Ysi trim. How does yours run with the v3 and at what boost level?
@@fordltd1983 does just fine. ti would blow more but overkill for my application. im just about 600 to the wheels with very small heads and cam. na car laid down 410. built for boost. vortech added 200hp.
If I do not have a fmu do I hook the bypass valve vacuum line up to the vacuum tree ?. Also the provided egr bypass kit where does this rout from and too. Thank you
Yes, the bypass valve can go to the vacuum tree. I didn't get an EGR bypass with my kit, as it was a "tuner" kit. What does the Vortech instructions say?
@@Mustang-Geek i didn't see the egr bypass in the instructions I'll dubble check and can also call vortech. Thank you for your help
@@mustanlab302 Ok, yeah...call Vortech.
How are your intake air charge temps with no intercooler? Also is your air intake temp sensor in the lower intake manifold or in the tube between the blower and the throttle body?
It's on the lower intake. At this boost and power level, I'm not worried about it. Ultimate power isn't the goal. Just a good, fun driver. And in that regard, this Vortech and Holley Terminator X combo delivers!
@@Mustang-Geek I know you have a very mild build and max power is not your goal. I was just hoping to know what sort of IAT temps you saw at that 7.5 PSI. Any chance you have data logs of driving the car or maybe on the dyno you review and share?
@@MalcolmV8 Manifold Air Temp starts at 165, then during the run cools off to 145, and at the end of the pull finishes at 166. So, looks like a 21 degree increase because of the boost, BUT it's reading basically the same as when the sensor is heat soaked during normal driving.
@@Mustang-Geek I had a feeling that might be happening. I had the same issue and ended up moving my temp sensor to the inlet tube before the throttle body since I couldn't pick up actual IAT due to heat soak. Thanks for the feedback.
@@MalcolmV8 I guess the real question is, "What decisions does the ECU make based upon the MAT data?" If it's pulling timing and adding fuel at 165 degrees, then it matters. But if not, it probably doesn't matter all that much.
Any track numbers coming? Now for the big question boost and N20 at the same time?
Hope to head to the track soon! We *could* run nitrous and the blower together! It would be great to get the torque hit from the nitrous, and then let the blower take over at higher RPM. Hmmmm...
@@Mustang-Geek or you could work up to spraying it the whole way?
@@russellbroadwell Sure, though not sure how much the stock rods and block can handle.
@@Mustang-Geek :) I know it's easy for me to say when I don't have to fix it if it doesn't go well. I would be worried you would not have enough injector up top with both. I worry more around peak torque than peak power.
@@russellbroadwell 36 lb/hr at 43 PSI is good for about 475 flywheel horsepower @90% duty cycle, so I could add a 100 shot. But the 190 LPH pump may be maxed out about there as well. I think it would be more fun to add heads, cam, intake, then turn up the boost.
All good. I just don't like the noise the straight cut gears make. To loud.
What a awesome video! But why did you make it look all so easy lol
It actually WAS easy!
What heads and cam?
Stock heads and cam!
what is the pulley on this setup?
Not sure. It's whatever the factory pulley was.
@@Mustang-Geek it would say on the pulley. might say on the back of it. more than likely the crank us a 6.87". an 8" crank pulley looks like a dinner plate lol.
@@angry408w7 I don't have the car any more, so I can't check. I'd call Vortech and ask what pulley sizes they ship with their Fox Mustang kits.
@@Mustang-Geek thats a real shame. you'll never be able to replace it. that car has been through a lot of articles.
@@angry408w7 I used as a partial trade on another fox, so it's all good!
Did you need an adapter for the 2 bar MAP sensor? My terminator X is on the way and I want to install the kit without waiting another few days on additional parts. I ordered the Holley 2 bar same as you. Thanks
I had to de-pin the connector and install the supplied connector. Make sure you have a weatherpac depinning tool!
@@Mustang-Geek I’ll pick one up, but just to be clear….the required connector for the Holley 2 bar map sensor is supplied with the main wiring harness, I just have to depin it an repin the 2 bar connector?
@@andrewmcmillan8110 A two-bar map sensor comes with a new connector housing that needs to be swapped on the main harness so it fits the new 2-bar map sensor.
@@Mustang-Geek perfect, thank you very much!
@@andrewmcmillan8110 No sweat! Let us know what else you need to know, and show us the results in your own video!
Easy install but god damn is it expensive. You pay for the R&D
The Holley or the Vortech? Both are pretty cost-effective for what you get, in my view.