So survive knives have like a months worth of videos about all the issues they have with magnacut and crucible. Apparently the issue with rusting was due to peters doing a step that didnt need to be done. But that was just that issue. The other issues due to manufacturing and rolling from cruicible and niagra.
Also isnt it better to make prototype's out of lesser materials first. Wood, 1080, etc. Then use your unique steel after. Then you can make changes in each prototype so the end result is what you want.
I haven’t kept up with this but I remember the problem being decarburization which is something that is visible. I never had that problem from any of my knives I sent to Peter’s. The knives I’ve sent to Peter’s have been months apart and the steel has been bought from two different sources months apart too. And they all line up in terms of rust. Of course they have the same heat treatment from Peter’s which is a running factor but from my experience in comparing their heat treatment to other knives, theirs has always been the best. Peter’s has also been mentioned by Dr. Larrin Thomas as collaborators in projects they’ve done together. All this aside, I won’t know for sure if the problem is the heat treatment unless I test another knife like a Spyderco Salt, which I might if they come out with a Police 4 in Magnacut. Any suggestions are always appreciated.
@@tacticalcenter8658 the problem with this is that I might have a one to one comparison in terms of weight, handling and initial cut performance if I use a less expensive steel first, but I wont know how that specific Steel performs in that shape. For example: the edge stability on 80crv2 is better than Magnacut so if I grind a knife in 80crv2 real thin and it performs well, there’s a good chance Magnacut will warp. I have to make a knife in Magnacut to test edge stability, impact resistance and edge holding. There’s no getting around that in my mind.
Im absolutely impressed great video brother. I have 2 questions. First why do you make your knife handle so far from the blade? It might be because im looking an not handling. Im trying to find a way to make the front heavy but when i want to do close up carving the handle is long enough it balances out. ( i hope that makes sense). I used a skrama great knife i don't like the looks but the balance and usefulness is next level. Second question what's your opinion on LC200n? Bonus question, After all these exotic steels what do you like the most ? Do you think these are worth it? I found a guy selling 8760 very cheap plus i have 5160 both are very simple heat treat. You can do it with a torch and a oven. (Little more to it but you get the idea) I guess really im gonna have to prove this to myself is edge retention or toughness more important. Anyway great video you answered my previous question. But best of all you gave us a look into all the work you've been doing. Its easy to not realize when we only see finished blades. Its a lot of work. Id love to make a video but im not good at talking to cameras. My buddy growing up was amazing at filming. I totally lose all train of thought. Lol. You've really helped me once i get these blades sorted out I'll figure a way to show you. Im doin everything so i gotta get a few more test blades so i can have the heat treatment right. Have a good one. 👍
Hello, for the first question I think your asking why my handles are short (let me know if I got this wrong). Most of my handles are 4.5 inches long. My dad likes to position his hands differently on the handle for chopping and fine work like you mentioned on the Skrama. I made his handle a little over 5 inches. For me I like to have one option when a knife doubles for self defense and I like choosing my balance point and general feel of the knife from that single grip. This is me over thinking things: I don’t picture myself having a chance to change grips in a self defense situation so I try to incorporate everything I can in one grip area. This includes ice pick grip. For work a longer grip makes sense and it’s more useful. So far I like LC200N but I need to make a large knife from it to have a solid opinion. I have the design already I just have to get started. But it’s very rust resistant and gets and holds a good edge. But I want to know how tough and impact resistant is it, which I need a larger knife to test. My favorite Steel at this moment, by a lot, is K390. It gets super sharp, it’s very impact resistant and the edge stability is beautiful. I’m going to do a review of the knife I made from it later on. I don’t have experience with the carbon steels you mentioned but with 80crv2 you get a knife that’s super tough, it has great edge stability so it won’t warp but you lose the razor sharpness of the knife really fast compared to K390. So for K390, imagine having a large razor blade that feels dangerous because of how sharp it is, then using it to cut branches, plants, rope. Feeling it fly through most of it. When you look at it afterwards you still see a large razor blade because it can still keep going on that way. It’s a good feeling. It’s nice to put stuff on video especially with stuff that your making because you can definitely see yourself progress. My first videos were terrible but I got a little better at it. I say try it out if you get a chance it’s a different experience. I’m looking forward to see how your knives turn out.
@@totesmalotes I believe I worded that wrong. I was only talking about the blank you were showing. I was mainly talking about from the plunge grind to finger choil then where your handle would go. I understand it might be because it's a picture and not something I can touch. It just looks like your hand would be far from the blade unless you use the choil. I guess a better question is do you like choil more then a close edge? I'm not a very good writer. I'm more a in your face type of person. I was shy growing up had to learn to deal with people. The world has now changed and people don't socialize anymore. Anyway your video really helped me. I think I've just been over doing things. I need to let the process work itself out. I can't look to be perfect make a few and improve on them as I go. You have shown me I'm done buying production fixed blades. K390 you say, I'm gonna have to look at prices. I believe I need to test toughness vs edge retention. I get high edge retention for a folder. But a big do all do you really lose your edge or do you mess it up? What's your opinion after using these cutting edge steels? I used to follow the online knife and steel groups. I find they repeat anything that agrees with them. No matter if it's true or not. They make claims that just aren't real. Not all but alot. Then if you question a member they will get extremely defensive. Yet they won't show proof to back up claims. They use another guy's opinion. Now you make videos and you show us. Your doing a great thing bro. Plus you always take the time to answer (even my stupidly worded questions). My very limited experience with these newer stainless. I was taught carbon (ie Spring steel) was for work stainless was for collectors and wall hangers. I know we've come a long way. But really stainless is harder to sharpen and in many cases brittle. I've got more to tell you but I'll do it later this is long enough.
@@richardhenry1969 I used to do an edge all the way without a choil. I would just round the corner where the edge ended so I wouldn’t get cut by it. Now I like adding a choil and I put it a little far from the hand because (and I haven’t tested this) I feel like one of the weakest parts of the knife is where the grip ends and the blade starts because a lot of the flex goes there. So having a choil slightly higher than my grip makes me think I’ve strengthened that area more by keeping the steel thicker there. I haven’t done that to all my knives but I’ve started using it more. Usually when I dull my knives it’s through use, just by chopping branches and cutting plants. Sometimes I’ll cut plastic risers for sprinklers or pipes for drip systems. But every now and then I hit a rock or a wire and I’ll get a dent. It’s only happened about twice and not recently. I think supersteels are worth the hype, but you have to choose which one works best for what your going to use it for. I’m glad the video helped and I appreciate you asking questions. I’ve learned too from the questions you’ve asked and the things you’ve mentioned. I always appreciate them.
@@totesmalotes exactly I usually just mod (poorly) ready made knives - or I come up with an idea and send it to a professional and have them do it better _ but I did make one a small knife for myself with an angle grinder and then diamond stones - sent it out for professional heat treat - now I am partially through with the handle and still taking my sweet time on it (its been over a year (so Im lazy, sue me)
@@vyr01 cool, having something that’s there whenever you want to start it again is always a good thing to have. You know a lot about knives so I’m guessing your designs must be pretty nice. Hope your knife comes out great when it’s finished.
So survive knives have like a months worth of videos about all the issues they have with magnacut and crucible. Apparently the issue with rusting was due to peters doing a step that didnt need to be done. But that was just that issue. The other issues due to manufacturing and rolling from cruicible and niagra.
Also isnt it better to make prototype's out of lesser materials first. Wood, 1080, etc. Then use your unique steel after. Then you can make changes in each prototype so the end result is what you want.
I haven’t kept up with this but I remember the problem being decarburization which is something that is visible. I never had that problem from any of my knives I sent to Peter’s. The knives I’ve sent to Peter’s have been months apart and the steel has been bought from two different sources months apart too. And they all line up in terms of rust. Of course they have the same heat treatment from Peter’s which is a running factor but from my experience in comparing their heat treatment to other knives, theirs has always been the best. Peter’s has also been mentioned by Dr. Larrin Thomas as collaborators in projects they’ve done together. All this aside, I won’t know for sure if the problem is the heat treatment unless I test another knife like a Spyderco Salt, which I might if they come out with a Police 4 in Magnacut. Any suggestions are always appreciated.
@@tacticalcenter8658 the problem with this is that I might have a one to one comparison in terms of weight, handling and initial cut performance if I use a less expensive steel first, but I wont know how that specific Steel performs in that shape. For example: the edge stability on 80crv2 is better than Magnacut so if I grind a knife in 80crv2 real thin and it performs well, there’s a good chance Magnacut will warp. I have to make a knife in Magnacut to test edge stability, impact resistance and edge holding. There’s no getting around that in my mind.
Im absolutely impressed great video brother.
I have 2 questions. First why do you make your knife handle so far from the blade? It might be because im looking an not handling.
Im trying to find a way to make the front heavy but when i want to do close up carving the handle is long enough it balances out. ( i hope that makes sense). I used a skrama great knife i don't like the looks but the balance and usefulness is next level.
Second question what's your opinion on LC200n?
Bonus question, After all these exotic steels what do you like the most ? Do you think these are worth it? I found a guy selling 8760 very cheap plus i have 5160 both are very simple heat treat. You can do it with a torch and a oven. (Little more to it but you get the idea)
I guess really im gonna have to prove this to myself is edge retention or toughness more important.
Anyway great video you answered my previous question. But best of all you gave us a look into all the work you've been doing. Its easy to not realize when we only see finished blades. Its a lot of work.
Id love to make a video but im not good at talking to cameras. My buddy growing up was amazing at filming. I totally lose all train of thought.
Lol.
You've really helped me once i get these blades sorted out I'll figure a way to show you. Im doin everything so i gotta get a few more test blades so i can have the heat treatment right.
Have a good one. 👍
Hello, for the first question I think your asking why my handles are short (let me know if I got this wrong). Most of my handles are 4.5 inches long. My dad likes to position his hands differently on the handle for chopping and fine work like you mentioned on the Skrama. I made his handle a little over 5 inches. For me I like to have one option when a knife doubles for self defense and I like choosing my balance point and general feel of the knife from that single grip. This is me over thinking things: I don’t picture myself having a chance to change grips in a self defense situation so I try to incorporate everything I can in one grip area. This includes ice pick grip. For work a longer grip makes sense and it’s more useful.
So far I like LC200N but I need to make a large knife from it to have a solid opinion. I have the design already I just have to get started. But it’s very rust resistant and gets and holds a good edge. But I want to know how tough and impact resistant is it, which I need a larger knife to test.
My favorite Steel at this moment, by a lot, is K390. It gets super sharp, it’s very impact resistant and the edge stability is beautiful. I’m going to do a review of the knife I made from it later on.
I don’t have experience with the carbon steels you mentioned but with 80crv2 you get a knife that’s super tough, it has great edge stability so it won’t warp but you lose the razor sharpness of the knife really fast compared to K390. So for K390, imagine having a large razor blade that feels dangerous because of how sharp it is, then using it to cut branches, plants, rope. Feeling it fly through most of it. When you look at it afterwards you still see a large razor blade because it can still keep going on that way. It’s a good feeling.
It’s nice to put stuff on video especially with stuff that your making because you can definitely see yourself progress. My first videos were terrible but I got a little better at it. I say try it out if you get a chance it’s a different experience. I’m looking forward to see how your knives turn out.
@@totesmalotes I believe I worded that wrong. I was only talking about the blank you were showing. I was mainly talking about from the plunge grind to finger choil then where your handle would go. I understand it might be because it's a picture and not something I can touch. It just looks like your hand would be far from the blade unless you use the choil.
I guess a better question is do you like choil more then a close edge?
I'm not a very good writer. I'm more a in your face type of person. I was shy growing up had to learn to deal with people. The world has now changed and people don't socialize anymore.
Anyway your video really helped me. I think I've just been over doing things. I need to let the process work itself out. I can't look to be perfect make a few and improve on them as I go.
You have shown me I'm done buying production fixed blades.
K390 you say, I'm gonna have to look at prices.
I believe I need to test toughness vs edge retention. I get high edge retention for a folder. But a big do all do you really lose your edge or do you mess it up?
What's your opinion after using these cutting edge steels?
I used to follow the online knife and steel groups. I find they repeat anything that agrees with them. No matter if it's true or not. They make claims that just aren't real. Not all but alot. Then if you question a member they will get extremely defensive. Yet they won't show proof to back up claims. They use another guy's opinion.
Now you make videos and you show us. Your doing a great thing bro. Plus you always take the time to answer (even my stupidly worded questions).
My very limited experience with these newer stainless. I was taught carbon (ie Spring steel) was for work stainless was for collectors and wall hangers. I know we've come a long way. But really stainless is harder to sharpen and in many cases brittle.
I've got more to tell you but I'll do it later this is long enough.
@@richardhenry1969 I used to do an edge all the way without a choil. I would just round the corner where the edge ended so I wouldn’t get cut by it. Now I like adding a choil and I put it a little far from the hand because (and I haven’t tested this) I feel like one of the weakest parts of the knife is where the grip ends and the blade starts because a lot of the flex goes there. So having a choil slightly higher than my grip makes me think I’ve strengthened that area more by keeping the steel thicker there. I haven’t done that to all my knives but I’ve started using it more.
Usually when I dull my knives it’s through use, just by chopping branches and cutting plants. Sometimes I’ll cut plastic risers for sprinklers or pipes for drip systems. But every now and then I hit a rock or a wire and I’ll get a dent. It’s only happened about twice and not recently.
I think supersteels are worth the hype, but you have to choose which one works best for what your going to use it for.
I’m glad the video helped and I appreciate you asking questions. I’ve learned too from the questions you’ve asked and the things you’ve mentioned. I always appreciate them.
flight suit - nomex flame retardant
Nice, thanks for adding this. Some guy at the flea market was randomly selling it and it happened to fit me. I was lucky to find it.
@@totesmalotes just an aside they also have nomex flight gloves for pilots, so maybe be another useful thing ?
@@vyr01 it might be. I’ll look into them. Thanks.
HAH! told you addictive
Yeah you got me on that ha ha. It is addictive. But most of all it’s soothing and there’s something about using something you made yourself.
@@totesmalotes exactly I usually just mod (poorly) ready made knives - or I come up with an idea and send it to a professional and have them do it better _ but I did make one a small knife for myself with an angle grinder and then diamond stones - sent it out for professional heat treat - now I am partially through with the handle and still taking my sweet time on it (its been over a year (so Im lazy, sue me)
@@vyr01 cool, having something that’s there whenever you want to start it again is always a good thing to have. You know a lot about knives so I’m guessing your designs must be pretty nice. Hope your knife comes out great when it’s finished.