Sounds like my ex, who gave me at least three gifts that I know of over a couple of years. But instead of doing a Ted talk about how great it was, I finally just left him
“In the last 3 years we’ve went through 3 different instances of infidelity” I’m gonna have to stop you right there sis. Get your stuff. I’ll bring the car around. It’s time to go.
The first red flag...falling in love fast and furious....”this is my person” after just weeks? Sure, leaving him would have been the self-loving thing to do. I understand and respect where she’s coming from though...she’s at a place in her own journey..and still has something to offer. Five months of “self-love”? Just getting started..., but she’s on the right path. If you’ve ever been in love with somebody through infidelity it’s not always just that easy. It does take strength to overcome insecurities..., but then she mentions her intuition was right the first time? Gaslighting ones self...taking ownership of HIS infidelity..then learning if it and taking him back. She’s hoping that at some point he’ll see that she truly loves him...and that he’ll magically realize he truly loves her..and change. In the meantime, she’s giving up the opportunity to develop a relationship with somebody who will demonstrate something better. One might have compassion for her. Personally, his original infidelity lends itself more to the idea that if somebody lies/cheats, they’ll do it again. The first time, taking them back with them being truthful is personal choice...and theres a huge risk one takes with that...deserving of respect in their character. The second time, “my bad”...done deal. I hope she finds the self love and the partner she truly desires...knowing we don’t necessarily get what we deserve, but we get what we negotiate.
Or maybe her man lied about her existence in his life to the other women he was having an affair with ? Maybe he called out being single and didn't put front the fact that he was already in a committed relationship with Kelsey? And if that's the case then what Kelsey did was right. Reaching out to that woman was necessary to make herself visible but that doesn't spare the fact that his man did it all wrong. And sometimes no matter how badly you get hurt, there's always a part in you that tries to convince your heart to give it another chance but yeah limited chances and if it still doesn't bring the outcome that a healthy relationship is suppose to have, that's when you should leave.
You may have received three gifts but you also are still stuck with a partner who does not value your relationship. If infidelity occurs or has occurred a fourth time then your last gift should be that you can have love but you need to find that partner willing to love you equally in return. Otherwise the story always ends in infidelity.
Yep even in a open relationship you both have to be the same. if one is hurt by the other, they will do it again and again. One of my ex's cheated on me and it wasn't the fact she cheated, it was the fact that she was always getting jealous when I got attention of other girls, even though I had said I wasn't interested.
I understand her points. It's always going to be a tough topic to bedunk. But self love makes you unstoppable. We can't know all the ins and outs of every relationship.
@@RepWolfMan I’m starting to really believe all men cheat so we should just expect it and prepare our hearts or callous them and just be practical and cold in our relationships (at least deep down). Do you really think any man stays faithful forever? There seems to be no value on that to most of them. Like they can see why deceiving anyone else on earth (even a stranger) would be wrong and of poor character, but when it’s their woman, she doesn’t matter enough to get that same basic respect. It’s so sad. :(
I see that you learnt nothing, dear, if you love yourself, walk away from this unstable man. Three times?!!!!! Are you afraid that you will not find another one to love you? Where s your self love?!!
Loving yourself means respecting yourself. You can do all the work to love yourself while being in a healthy relationship, with somebody that respects you.
TRUST...is the FOUNDATION of every relationship. Infidelity=No Trust!!! No Trust=No Stable Relationship...Simple Math. The real scary thing is...is that this young gal is actually counseling and giving advice to others about relationships.
Not true...i cheated 7 years ago...we split up..i remained faithful the entire 6 years...he dated...now were back for 9 months...went to therapy and we r better than ever.
Honestly though, and this is a bit off topic but has to do someone with infidelity, The issue is my wife and I have gone thru have helped our relationship open up a little bit. Or become more fluid, however you want to refer to it. If either one of us become involved with another person, we know that won't necessarily hurt our relationship.
@@jessicaswanson5557 Yeah... I think you've missed the point here. It's not the point that it couldn't happen to anyone else, but rather the way you deal with it and how things go afterwards.
Many peoplewould guve up. When u know who is ur person. You take and guve and vise versa. You dont just give up and next everytime they mess up. Chances are 95% of the time males will cheat. Out of all the guys I know only 1 that I could count has not cheated. So with that said it is childish to believe in Cinderella stories. To break up after each and every mistake is totally up to u. But most likely every man cheats and will cheat no matter how old they are
I admire her ability to look within herself and her kindness to the other woman but I also hope that one day she would be "self love" enough to dump his ass 😑
This is truly a unique case. i stayed with my cheating partner and went through the same thing, that i should improve whatever toxic traits I have and every person deserves love and compassion, people do bad things out of pain. Ended up getting dumped a year later. 10/10 would not recommend
while I appreciate the courage to stand on a stage and talk about such personal issues, the real lesson of self-love is to not put up with other people's BS.
Sometimes unconditional love means being honest with yourself, including your many many faults, and taking responsibility for what you can. Just a general fact.
@@Nandomo321 Then wait 5 years before you marry and/or knock up a broad/get knocked up & use birth control up until that point. Unless we still as adults believe babies come from storks.
How about saving all that good energy for someone who loves you ? Preserve your emotions and protect what you value. There is no peace in your heart soul and mind when you’re dating a serial dater/Cheater. Have you ever considered that you’re addicted to the drama ?
Getting good lessons out of life experience is great but staying in a relationship that keeps going over and over the same failure is insane. Unconditional self love is exactly what she is missing.
Oh wow.... You have no idea :( Coming from someone who has done the cheating and have been cheated on, self love is never enduring other people treating you like shit. Why stay with someone who can't even love himself enough to NOT cheat, let alone love YOU?
If The Onion was doing a Ted Talk, this would be it. I’ve listened to many Ted talks, I can’t believe they gave this woman a platform. Why don’t you “hold space” for yourself.
Betrayal is not a gift, it is a destroyer. If you folks had an open relationship, though weird to me, then it would be at least an agreed upon concept. But the only way to look upon infidelity is in the act its self. It is saying that you, the person I am betraying, are not good enough and are not fulfilling my needs, and it is only my needs and expectations that need be met in this relationship. Have fun with that, in accepting you are not the best, your self will accept you were always worse
She gives me hope for women understanding that if their man is attractive enough for other women to want then he is worth it. Keep looking up and try harder!
Powerful. I have experienced many heart breaks . They have really built my self love and confidence. These experiences have changed the way I saw love 20 years ago. I learned what truelove is. I am proud to be with my partner and though we have had our test we have remained strong. I am so thankful for my test.
My heart hurts for you Kelsey. You are in an emotionally abusive and toxic relationship. The most loving gift to yourself would be to love yourself enough to leave. You may be struggling with co-dependency. I am in the mental health field and not speaking out of ignorance. I pray that you find clarity in this situation. It is my belief that you are worthy of a healthy relationship wear your heart is valued in the way it should be. God bless you and protect you.
This just makes me sad. Cheaters and their affair partners deserve NO compassion or love. She hasn't learned to love herself either if she stayed with the cheater. True self love is recognizing that you deserve better.
I appreciate this woman’s story, and I was almost waiting for her to say, that after she spoke to the other woman who she reassured that she deserved compassion, love, and respect, and I was almost positive she that she too would say she deserved the same & ended her relationship. Maybe after the 4th time, she will realized she deserves a man who respects her & their relationship.
Some valid points and I admire this ladies capacity for self awareness, growth and empathy, but I still think that it's not up to you to solve someone's issues in the sense of, if a close, supposedly trusted loved one keeps betraying and hurting you, there is no shame in moving on. Forgive and forget is an underrated phrase.
Oh sweet girl, no. If self love was truly your goal, you would get out of this emotionally abusive relationship!Staying with someone who has such a lack of respect for you and your commitment is not a gift... and trying to sell it as such sends a dangerous message to young women.
I agree. I admire Kelsey for the immense insight she has in the area of self-love. But she has missed the point completely by allowing into her life someone who would cheat on her repeatedly and hurt her so many times. She has also violated one of the fundamental Rules of Love, and as a consequence her partner WILL certainly cheat on her again and abandon her eventually. A woman of value always puts her heart first.
That's the lack of understanding most people will have about the topic of infidelity. Cheating is not the end of the world. It can be an end of a relationship, or a way for you to revalue your current one. Deeming it "abusive" or anything else without knowing the actual situation is nothing but short-sighted.
Leave it to a relationship "coach" to be blind to being co-depedant and blind to a trauma bond. You don't love yourself if you keep going back to someone that keeps cheating on you, you don't love yourself if you "keep yourself open to someone breaking your heart proving they don't deserve you (that is coming from a woman - her mother- that grew up in a generation that womans main goal in life was to be married at any price), AND I totally agree with the person below that told you the other woman didn't cheat on you, he did! Dumping guilt on to the other women = you begging the other women to get out of your relationship like he won't go out and find someone else. I am speaking from experience not just spouting off like people do 'well if that happened to me I would blablabla". You don't know what you would do until you're there. My counselor found this out for herself in her own marriage and did a 180 when it was her turn. This video has to be some of the most uneducated, poor advice I have heard in a long time and unworthy of a Ted talk.
@@user-aRb00d3r It sounds like a nice idea to learn from someones mistakes just by hearing them talk about it but human nature isn't so easily persuaded. The only person in this world that you can truly control is you thanks to free will. If you don't want to be kicked, don't hang out with someone that kicks you. People do it all the time though and rather than get up and do something new, they wounder why they have bruises, blame someone else, or sit there and keep being kicked while calling themselves a victim. Sometimes it is literally a matter of changing where you chose to sit.
Yep, every day is gonna be like Christmas for her. We'll, that is, of course, if there was a way to box up disrespect, betrayal, and STDs and stuff em under the tree.
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Ya my ex-husband tried to give me these gifts when he had an affair with my ex-best friend. suppose that I have not "done as much work on myself" as I would not cross the street to piss on her if she were on fire.
NOPE! NO..... i do not agree. i think you are in a toxic relationship. further what you have described in your partner's behavior sounds like he has narcissistic traits. 1- the initial break up he ghosts you. then explains it's because of your insecure behavior he chose to move on, but not before he explains he cheated. he found a new supply that he was more interested in, which inevitably failed and came back to you. 2-although you have once again been betrayed by the same person, he is somehow the victim in which you need to be there for him. this false intimacy you are describing is not ownership of his actions, but of how well you supply him with no boundaries and acceptance. 3-at this stage you have completely gave up on holding him accountable, so you now externalize the wrong doing upon the other girl. now you're essentially reinforcing narcissistic behavior as they will not hold themselves accountable. I'm not saying the other girl doesn't have her part to own up to but that's absurd. you need to reassess the premise of self love and unconditional love. people make mistakes, their remorse will be shown by their following actions. he's made it clear that he will not change and that you will continueto project your mantra unto your relationship. of course with every continued transgression you will either have to "grow" your mantra to justify his acts or watch your belief system come apart. this is not love, it's co dependancy.
Brilliant comment!!. Glad to see that you guys are of sound minds to recognize this speakers very sad, blind, denial about infidelity. Looks like she is counselling and helping others who have also have esteem issues to embrace infidelity gifts, such as hepatitis, A-b-c, herpes, aids, trichomonaisis, siphillis, gono ect. This is the first time I am completely appalled, and dissapointed with presentation from TedTalks.
You are absolutely correct, the actual title "The gifts of infidelity" sound to me like an encouragement/approval. If it happens ones it is bad enough, but three times in three years...He is a habitual cheater and a narcissist as well. I hope she wakes up soon or she will get hurt again.
I understand her point of forgiveness, compassion and self love! I think is amazing to discover all that while you are in pain. But, in order to feel good with yourself you don’t have to stay with that person. You can forgive, give compassion and have self love not taking him back and find a man who will respect you, love you, and help you grow “together” as a person and not just one person and the other person keeps hurting him/her because he/she knows that you are sooooo compassionate that will forgive him/her all the time and the point is not only you learning to have all those great qualities but also the other person have to learn that if he/she does not have those qualities or TRY he/she will lose so don’t be selfish with yourself and make yourself a favor and free yourself and be happy!
yeah, evidently also by her male psychotherapist! "Seeelff looove, must come first! " I don't know how brainwashed she was, but if you love something, you respect it. Not allow something to abuse it 3x (that she KNOWS OF!)
Woman to woman ! I feel sorry for you ! You are not his mother, psychologist or therapist ! Wow, just wow. Unconditional love, pleeeease ............ i am so saddened by your message to women.
I agree, nor a good message for women I'm sorrry but if my boyfriend cheated on me , which he did twice. I left him. The way i see it if I'm not enough women for him and he is not willing to put effort into the relationship then i don't need to be in his life. I did forgive afterwards but also ended the relationship since he became toxic by his infidelity
It is so hard to take that a woman would blame a woman for what happened to the relationship. She may have talked to the other woman but his man will always cheat with any other woman. Self love is also about giving yourself a self respect that a man can't even give. Its ok to forgive, but staying in one relationship only to keep tracing and chasing who he is getting busy with is a total BS. That is not self love but too much adoration to one man who never once considered you as adorable enough to be faithful with. Your intuition is your friend but you have never put it into a good use. Use your gift lady!
Lol these are couple therapists... I know a woman who was cheated on, recieved STD from her cheater husband and now shes a couple coacher and its so cringe
You talk about three gifts that you received but your boyfriend definitely would have realised what a wonderful gift💝 you are to him to genuinely understand him and show the unconditional love.. Bravo!!👏👏 Yet you deserve a better person sweetheart 💕
WOW I feel the light from this girl. And what a great light that is shes shining form such a darkness she started out with. Its actions like that, that will break people into hating them self's more then anything else. Also whats more ironic is her dark self would want all that but she would never get it unless inflicting it on a innocent person. You rarely get what you want in this world but if you try you will get what you need.
Doesnt mean she should stay with a toxic partner with a habit of cheating. She needs to value herself more by setting a rigid boundary and principles that she will not tolerate. If she were a cheater herself, then maybe her way of doing things makes sense. But she seems like a loyal person trying to stick with a undisciplined untrustworthy partner. She needs to leave that relationship in the same grace she confronted her adulteror.
It’s hard to be open-minded when this is asking us to accept her being insecure is the reason the person she loved didn’t love her back as much. A committed relationship is not only one’s responsibility - it is both. It’s not a truth if you find out much later. As grown adults, I except total fidelity and we hold space for eachother equally. You can ‘universe agree’ it up all you want but you’re having a conversation with someone you should never have been in a place to have to speak to. Letting a man throw you away repeatedly and see it as finding gifts is the true insecurity to moving on and knowing that you deserve a partner who sees you rather than hides you.
Will never understand why people are so afraid of compassion, honesty and healing. Shes not saying thats what you have to do but she is showing us that honesty in all paths and things we feel SPECIALLY TOWARDS OUR PARTNER is 100% necessary even when it isnt easy. He broke it off cause he cheated and he was honest and she made the choice to work with it and stay. LIFE IS ABOUT CHOICES AND WHAT WE DO WITH THEM. Forgiveness and compassion are very necessary in this life and many people cultivate bitterness instead.
Wow....As a woman who has experienced infidelity, I have no clue how you were able to forgive and reconcile not once, not twice but three times. Uuuuuummmmmm...no thank you. My partner and I did manage to stay together. However, he is well aware that our relationship will end if it ever happens again. A gift I learned from all this in hindsight is that is not my job to make another woman aware of who I am. In other words, I should never have to let another B know that I'm the wife. That's my husband's job, and if he can't do that, he doesn't deserve the spot. I will applaud your ability to forgive though. You are wayyyyyyyyy bigger a person than I ever could or will ever be...
You are a much stronger person than I. I don’t think it’s healthy however for you to be giving so much love and compassion to someone who can’t be faithful to you. I wish you all the best
"Self-love" is really a nice way of saying selfish. Selfishness is the inherent state of the fallen nature of man (that means women too!). The only time we should entertain staying in a relationship where infidelity occurs is in the sacred covenant of marriage. Even then, divorce is completely within our natural "right" as a spouse. Yes, there are lessons to be learned with any experience. To tout those lessons as "gifts" means that they were given to you by God. God does not give infidelity as a gift. It occurs, and He leads you through it (those are the lessons He helps you with), but it's never His design.
THIS KIND OF LOVE TRANSFORMS THE WORLD! I have been in a relationship where my wife has cheated on me multiple times and I have now stepped away from the situation. Regardless I respect the courage of this woman to have such love, compassion, and desire to understand. I have remained completely faithful while facing the opposite. I have read many of the soul-eaten comments here of people that have allowed hate, jealously, and anger destroy their trust, optimism, and aliveness. I GREATLY ADMIRE this woman for looking within herself and rising above all the negative emotions into a state of higher emotions and consciousness. Holding hate and resentment and withholding forgiveness is like drinking poison and expecting it to hurt the other person. WE "the mistreated" KNOW the impact on BOTHSIDES, we still have standards, we just choose to address the issues from a place of inner-dependent peace. People may leave or stay from a place of love and understanding. The most empowering thing is to recognize: we are the cause and creators of our lives! To be or not to be! To choose what we "be".
It may definitely... It may destroy the balance of morality of humanity. If majority of people would act the same way, number of abuser will increase. It's human nature. You can still show love, compassion and forgive someone but it doesn't mean you have to take them back. Sometimes someone should learn through you but not with you.
This is the worst video ive seen. I think the gaslighting must be working. Self love is about self respect, surely after knowing the second time she should have ran.
I experienced exactly what eent through Kelsey. I feel compassion for both thst hurt me and my w boys. After 5 yrs i have no anger towatds them but love.
I can relate to much of what you are saying, as I felt and managed similarly to you in my personal situation. I have not been able to treat the other woman with the same level of love and respect that you’ve presented, however deep down I do not hate her, although I want to. The pain of this experiences is enormous, however, there is nothing gained from hate and revenge. I have put my faith in God and learning from the experience by looking inward. I am coming into my true self. I am learning to love myself more and be me. The true me. There’s a lot more to my story, however, there’s nothing gained from looking back or hate and forgiveness. I am choosing to look forward with love. Thank you for your talk. You are love.
Incondicional love doesn’t exist in romantic relationships! There is always a set of conditions your romantic partner has to meet for love to exist and persist, and your partner has clearly not been following your set of conditions! If fidelity wasn’t a condition for you you, you wouldn’t even care about his infidelities, but you clearly are hurt. So, get a man who respects you! That’s self-love!
These are the people that are suposed to be experts? I learned once a cheater always in my teens, and love myself enough to know to trusty my gut. Did t e en need a degree to figure that out.
I feel like a lot of commenters are missing the point. She learned a lot about loving through her experiences and being able to give love to herself, her partner and this other woman is the gift she’s giving from all those “gifts”/lessons she learned. I think oftentimes we think love is all about what we get and sometimes forget it’s also about what we give. Yes, she definitely doesn’t deserve to be cheated on so many times, but she’s able to come out still giving love which I think is the most powerful force in the world. And it’s up to everyone else in her life to learn to better give love as well.
Esther Perel teaches about relationships better. when someone has this "Don't leave me, I can't live without you" mentality. that's NOT love, that's PARASITISM.
I get it, and I respect your commitment to your own growth and learning. Simply shutting discomfort out of your life, though it may seem wise, shuts out learning and growth. Good on you for having compassion and prescience enough to listen to the deeper lesson. And simply shutting someone out that you love isn’t always the answer. Everyone deserves a chance and some compassion and understanding.
I like that you kept the calm personality n nice way to explain things through the speech. I learned many things with this....its hard to be in your shoes, but harder to understand the other persons position when your suffering comes from their actions. Amazing lesson of humbleness n love!!
I disagree. If someone disrespect and betrays you, they don't deserve understanding they deserve consequences. It's important for both parties to move on, for the betrayed it is about dignity and self-worth and for the betrayer it is important for them to learn there will be consequences for their treachery. Some things in life are just raw and unpleasant, and it's better to accept them than to live a delusion in which we can add a positive spin to everything.
This is not loving and respecting herself. This is her making excuses and justifications for his behavour. She is obsessive over him and is doing anything to keep together. Sad...
Ok.... he cheated twice!! Forgave him once, second time he does, she confronts the 'other woman' like it's her fault. She was NOT married or committed to the 'other woman'. She should handled the issue with the husband who made a commitment and who keeps cheating. He will sleep with another lady and you will keep receiving the gifts he's giving you again and again, don't bother 'other women'. With online apps he does not need a relationship.. he will cheat, you will stay and you will seem desperate. You can do better.
I haven’t read all the comments on here but she was honest enough to say her behaviour was damaging the relationship with insecurity and fear. She said she felt like she had found that person who she truly loved! The fear of losing him. I have experienced the same thing from women but then again I have never physically cheated on any of them. I hope her message at the start reaches men and women that the fear of losing someone isn’t a reason to try to control them so they don’t leave you. Hate other men, women because you fear they will take them away from you. Love yourself and know that you are good enough. Without that you are nothing.
This isn't about the cheating. It is her story of gaining awareness, taking responsibility, and ultimately about choosing what to put out into the world. Everyone walks their own path. I would say congrats to her for being able to see her path and her choices and not making it a rougher road for those yet to travel.
It surely is the best way to look at this things. Using bad situations to build your character and help you improve and grow as a person. However a relationship works both ways, and he doesn’t seem to be putting in any effort or respect for you. When i was with my ex girlfriend I started believing that she hadn’t gotten over her first love, and soon enough I found out that I was right. Her cousin told me, and I was angry, I felt betrayed and I wanted to make her feel bad too. But as I was thinking about what I should say, I realized something. Sometimes people are just not meant to be yours, sometimes there’s something different for you a bit farther down the road. I love romantic films, and I saw this as a love story that I simply wasn’t a part of. So I told her that I knew what she was feeling, (she denied it at first) and then I told her to tell him how she feels, the most likely thing is that he feels the same way. I told her to take the risk and go after him and that I truly hope that everything turns out alright for her. Fast forward 3 years, I have my new girlfriend who I love so much and I have been with for about 2 years and a half, there isn’t a doubt in my mind that she’s the girl I wanna marry. And my ex got with her first love. The point is, there is something better for you, sometimes it’s better to accept that a relationship simply doesn’t work. You deserve somebody that actually will respect u
One of the most misunderstood realities of staying in a relationship after cheating is that it is often the more courageous choice than walking away. Allowing someone the ability to cause such trauma and pain again, is not for the weak or faint hearted
I understand you 100%, I'm in the same situation. I forgive & take him back as he is my person too. My intuition is always right, I'm just waiting for him to trust in me to be able to handle the truth. When he does finally tell me what I already knew I feel the same relief, even when I am broken I accept his truth and we are working towards the why. Once we get there we will have that intimacy and relationship that is worth all of the struggles, the pain, the sacrifices made because of the sheer willingness to survive and come out the other side together.
i feel so so so badly for this girl. she blamed herself and found faults with herself over his infidelity. she can do so much better, i really hope she finds herself and frees herself. this man doesn’t deserve her compassion :/
This poor woman. Poor poor woman. Lack of self confidence. Lack of self love? She should have left the dude. THAT would have been loving oneself. It's called self respect!
I appreciate this talk, Miss Grant. You are a beautiful human being that deserves love, respect and fidelity. Your dignity before God Himself and your own self is valuable. Please use this gifts and move on. That person may not value your worth and the immense love you have. My humble comment, as I have been through the same. God help us find clarity and our spouses to feel embraced by our love. Thank you for reading.
I went through the EXACT same 3 instances in 1 1/2 years I’m still with my same girlfriend. I’m 22 years old and I found this video to help me grow. Me and my partner have found God as well.
Interesting to read all the comments and how so few can recognise the strength and wisdom in this woman. The body is the marker of truth and does still show there is some comfort eating ........but different to many who have been rude to this woman , I wish her all the best as she makes her way through the last few layers of the hurts that need clearing. Xo
Actions have consequences and this is healthy, otherwise we won't know something is bad for us - it orients us to reality. Forgiveness is her choice, but what makes that forgiveness so powerful (to choose to reconcile instead of breaking up) is that he is NOT worthy of it. He is worthy of dignity and respect, but to be given grace is different. Don't de-value the reality of the offense. We cannot recreate how life is designed to work. 'Loving yourself' can be a harmful way of trying to cover up the *truth* about yourself, especially if you are doing something wrong in an act or lifestyle choice. If I'm doing something unhealthy or harmful I can always speak positive affirmation, but it doesn't change the fact that I need help.
The opposite of mansplaining. Delusional. Delusional. Delusional. maybe you should see if you can get his other girlfriends to take him back. I mean, if you really love him, you would, right? Think some more about who is being realistic here. Do you think he will ever decide someone else whom he is attracted to is not an option? Others have been an option before. Why sign up for more of that? Delusional.
Here's my opinion hoping it will not hurt anybody. Kelsey, you are a great person building yourself to unreachable heights to the majority of people, that's good. Why do you waste your time with that kind of partner? I celebrate the unconditional love you give everyday, but don't hope it will change him or anybody. I learned this from a terrible experience: anybody can learn and build himself everyday in beautiful manners, but don't hope that the people around you will do it too. You can invite them, but most of them won't change. This will be a broken heart inevitably.
can you feel the audience's silence ... id like a where are they now on this girl and her "partner". this was beyond painful to listen to. like stab my eye with a pencil painful. after 3 times she should love herself enough to walk away from what is not serving her anymore poor girl
Self love is great but self love allows you to have boundaries. Doesn’t sound like you have any with your partner. Don’t be a doormat. Love yourself enough to demand that same love in return.
Sounds like my ex, who gave me at least three gifts that I know of over a couple of years. But instead of doing a Ted talk about how great it was, I finally just left him
I have the feeling she's still with him. Or did I miss that in the talk?
Good for you! You knew you could do much better.
Even the Bible says to break up with someone when they cheat on you.
This is proof that anyone can get a TEDtalk.
I have a feeling this guy is going to give you many more gifts.
Lol
@@intuitrip Damn right.
Agreed
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Totally 💯
“In the last 3 years we’ve went through 3 different instances of infidelity” I’m gonna have to stop you right there sis. Get your stuff. I’ll bring the car around. It’s time to go.
LOL MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I totally agree with you
@Marky I wonder if she's still with the guy.
its my thought
The first red flag...falling in love fast and furious....”this is my person” after just weeks? Sure, leaving him would have been the self-loving thing to do. I understand and respect where she’s coming from though...she’s at a place in her own journey..and still has something to offer. Five months of “self-love”? Just getting started..., but she’s on the right path. If you’ve ever been in love with somebody through infidelity it’s not always just that easy. It does take strength to overcome insecurities..., but then she mentions her intuition was right the first time? Gaslighting ones self...taking ownership of HIS infidelity..then learning if it and taking him back. She’s hoping that at some point he’ll see that she truly loves him...and that he’ll magically realize he truly loves her..and change. In the meantime, she’s giving up the opportunity to develop a relationship with somebody who will demonstrate something better. One might have compassion for her. Personally, his original infidelity lends itself more to the idea that if somebody lies/cheats, they’ll do it again. The first time, taking them back with them being truthful is personal choice...and theres a huge risk one takes with that...deserving of respect in their character. The second time, “my bad”...done deal. I hope she finds the self love and the partner she truly desires...knowing we don’t necessarily get what we deserve, but we get what we negotiate.
If he’s been so unfaithful so often in such a short amount of time, she has a hard road ahead if she stays with him. This is awful.
Women are no different.
Agreed. Four years later this still pisses me off
Awful! I can't believe her thought process
You just have to go: me, me, me and me
Sweetie, it's not you, it's him. You're all good...Sending love and light.
This is really sad. She has brainwashed herself into being a doormat.
Exactly
I can't believe what I just listened to... I was trying to find the self love thing in there .... These aren't gifts these are red flags ...
She reached out to the other woman and told HER to stop doing what SHE'S doing? Girl! That woman didn't cheat on you - your man did!
Or maybe her man lied about her existence in his life to the other women he was having an affair with ? Maybe he called out being single and didn't put front the fact that he was already in a committed relationship with Kelsey? And if that's the case then what Kelsey did was right. Reaching out to that woman was necessary to make herself visible but that doesn't spare the fact that his man did it all wrong. And sometimes no matter how badly you get hurt, there's always a part in you that tries to convince your heart to give it another chance but yeah limited chances and if it still doesn't bring the outcome that a healthy relationship is suppose to have, that's when you should leave.
You may have received three gifts but you also are still stuck with a partner who does not value your relationship. If infidelity occurs or has occurred a fourth time then your last gift should be that you can have love but you need to find that partner willing to love you equally in return. Otherwise the story always ends in infidelity.
wonderfully put and honest....
Yep even in a open relationship you both have to be the same. if one is hurt by the other, they will do it again and again. One of my ex's cheated on me and it wasn't the fact she cheated, it was the fact that she was always getting jealous when I got attention of other girls, even though I had said I wasn't interested.
It's a lot more complex than that.
This made me realise how blessed one must be to have a faithful spouse or partner. It is very rare these days
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Yes, my husband had told me about being approached by a few women. He tells them he's happily married.
I was having same thoughts for 23 years that lucky to have a faithful husband until found in his phone another women.
How about finding the strength, security, and self-love to leave this man??? You don't have to judge him or hate him to walk away.
Well said snd truth 100% truth! It really is that simple.
I understand her points. It's always going to be a tough topic to bedunk. But self love makes you unstoppable. We can't know all the ins and outs of every relationship.
@@RepWolfMan I’m starting to really believe all men cheat so we should just expect it and prepare our hearts or callous them and just be practical and cold in our relationships (at least deep down). Do you really think any man stays faithful forever? There seems to be no value on that to most of them. Like they can see why deceiving anyone else on earth (even a stranger) would be wrong and of poor character, but when it’s their woman, she doesn’t matter enough to get that same basic respect. It’s so sad. :(
I see that you learnt nothing, dear, if you love yourself, walk away from this unstable man. Three times?!!!!! Are you afraid that you will not find another one to love you? Where s your self love?!!
@@littlelam3691 "I'm starting to really believe all men cheat...."
Hate to break it to you but women cheat at about the same rate as men.
Loving yourself means respecting yourself. You can do all the work to love yourself while being in a healthy relationship, with somebody that respects you.
TRUST...is the FOUNDATION of every relationship. Infidelity=No Trust!!! No Trust=No Stable Relationship...Simple Math. The real scary thing is...is that this young gal is actually counseling and giving advice to others about relationships.
Well, there are people who are bad at their jobs everywhere, including counselors.
Not true...i cheated 7 years ago...we split up..i remained faithful the entire 6 years...he dated...now were back for 9 months...went to therapy and we r better than ever.
@@Amber-Avalon1972 Yes same with us.
Honestly though, and this is a bit off topic but has to do someone with infidelity, The issue is my wife and I have gone thru have helped our relationship open up a little bit. Or become more fluid, however you want to refer to it. If either one of us become involved with another person, we know that won't necessarily hurt our relationship.
No compassion=No stable relationship. Simple math.
The worst part of this is that she's presenting her situation as healthy.
Yes... That!
Well put
I’ll tell you what’s unhealthier....not recognizing this stuff and saying...it could never happen to me!!!
@@jessicaswanson5557 Yeah... I think you've missed the point here. It's not the point that it couldn't happen to anyone else, but rather the way you deal with it and how things go afterwards.
Many peoplewould guve up. When u know who is ur person. You take and guve and vise versa. You dont just give up and next everytime they mess up. Chances are 95% of the time males will cheat. Out of all the guys I know only 1 that I could count has not cheated. So with that said it is childish to believe in Cinderella stories. To break up after each and every mistake is totally up to u. But most likely every man cheats and will cheat no matter how old they are
I admire her ability to look within herself and her kindness to the other woman but I also hope that one day she would be "self love" enough to dump his ass 😑
Yessssss
yess exactly
There is a word that describes her behavior. It's called enabling.
Yes, but what if they're married?
@@almamakoni990 why would that make any difference?
This is truly a unique case. i stayed with my cheating partner and went through the same thing, that i should improve whatever toxic traits I have and every person deserves love and compassion, people do bad things out of pain. Ended up getting dumped a year later. 10/10 would not recommend
Relatable. I went against my own values of never taking back a cheater-all the ingredients of infidelity returned and now we are divorcing.
Yes. Same after 33 years
while I appreciate the courage to stand on a stage and talk about such personal issues, the real lesson of self-love is to not put up with other people's BS.
Unconditional love is what she should have for herself. If she had any, she would not have tolerated this behavior.
Sometimes unconditional love means being honest with yourself, including your many many faults, and taking responsibility for what you can. Just a general fact.
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Truly, if one is not capable of giving unconditional Love are they really worthy of receiving unconditional love!
@@Nandomo321 Then wait 5 years before you marry and/or knock up a broad/get knocked up & use birth control up until that point. Unless we still as adults believe babies come from storks.
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Put all that love into someone that loves you BACK !!
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How about saving all that good energy for someone who loves you ? Preserve your emotions and protect what you value. There is no peace in your heart soul and mind when you’re dating a serial dater/Cheater. Have you ever considered that you’re addicted to the drama ?
I wonder how many more “gifts” she has received since she gave this talk.
Being with a chronic cheater is the gift that keeps on giving.
Exactly. She thinks very little of herself.
If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.
this is the best answer to any cheater
God dam right brother!
Seriously honey, you gotta stop this is just nonsense
Every hurtful happening bears gifts to knowledge, that doesn't mean everyone should accept or repeat it!!
precisely
Aris Giannakos amén to that
Agreed!!
... with the same person over and over.
and she tells the story with pride!
Getting good lessons out of life experience is great but staying in a relationship that keeps going over and over the same failure is insane. Unconditional self love is exactly what she is missing.
Oh wow.... You have no idea :( Coming from someone who has done the cheating and have been cheated on, self love is never enduring other people treating you like shit. Why stay with someone who can't even love himself enough to NOT cheat, let alone love YOU?
If The Onion was doing a Ted Talk, this would be it. I’ve listened to many Ted talks, I can’t believe they gave this woman a platform. Why don’t you “hold space” for yourself.
Betrayal is not a gift, it is a destroyer.
If you folks had an open relationship, though weird to me, then it would be at least an agreed upon concept. But the only way to look upon infidelity is in the act its self. It is saying that you, the person I am betraying, are not good enough and are not fulfilling my needs, and it is only my needs and expectations that need be met in this relationship.
Have fun with that, in accepting you are not the best, your self will accept you were always worse
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She gives me hope for women understanding that if their man is attractive enough for other women to want then he is worth it.
Keep looking up and try harder!
Kelsey, you have to leave this guy. And to stop messaging the other woman.
Is this about the Power of Doormats?
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Powerful. I have experienced many heart breaks . They have really built my self love and confidence. These experiences have changed the way I saw love 20 years ago. I learned what truelove is. I am proud to be with my partner and though we have had our test we have remained strong. I am so thankful for my test.
My heart hurts for you Kelsey. You are in an emotionally abusive and toxic relationship. The most loving gift to yourself would be to love yourself enough to leave. You may be struggling with co-dependency. I am in the mental health field and not speaking out of ignorance. I pray that you find clarity in this situation. It is my belief that you are worthy of a healthy relationship wear your heart is valued in the way it should be. God bless you and protect you.
This just makes me sad. Cheaters and their affair partners deserve NO compassion or love. She hasn't learned to love herself either if she stayed with the cheater. True self love is recognizing that you deserve better.
She doesn't deserve our compassion either. Or other women like her. It is because of women like that many men like this exist.
I appreciate this woman’s story, and I was almost waiting for her to say, that after she spoke to the other woman who she reassured that she deserved compassion, love, and respect, and I was almost positive she that she too would say she deserved the same & ended her relationship. Maybe after the 4th time, she will realized she deserves a man who respects her & their relationship.
Some valid points and I admire this ladies capacity for self awareness, growth and empathy, but I still think that it's not up to you to solve someone's issues in the sense of, if a close, supposedly trusted loved one keeps betraying and hurting you, there is no shame in moving on. Forgive and forget is an underrated phrase.
Oh sweet girl, no. If self love was truly your goal, you would get out of this emotionally abusive relationship!Staying with someone who has such a lack of respect for you and your commitment is not a gift... and trying to sell it as such sends a dangerous message to young women.
I agree. I admire Kelsey for the immense insight she has in the area of self-love. But she has missed the point completely by allowing into her life someone who would cheat on her repeatedly and hurt her so many times. She has also violated one of the fundamental Rules of Love, and as a consequence her partner WILL certainly cheat on her again and abandon her eventually. A woman of value always puts her heart first.
That's the lack of understanding most people will have about the topic of infidelity. Cheating is not the end of the world. It can be an end of a relationship, or a way for you to revalue your current one. Deeming it "abusive" or anything else without knowing the actual situation is nothing but short-sighted.
Time shall tell..
typical you didnt understand a thing she was talking about.
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Leave it to a relationship "coach" to be blind to being co-depedant and blind to a trauma bond. You don't love yourself if you keep going back to someone that keeps cheating on you, you don't love yourself if you "keep yourself open to someone breaking your heart proving they don't deserve you (that is coming from a woman - her mother- that grew up in a generation that womans main goal in life was to be married at any price), AND I totally agree with the person below that told you the other woman didn't cheat on you, he did! Dumping guilt on to the other women = you begging the other women to get out of your relationship like he won't go out and find someone else. I am speaking from experience not just spouting off like people do 'well if that happened to me I would blablabla". You don't know what you would do until you're there. My counselor found this out for herself in her own marriage and did a 180 when it was her turn. This video has to be some of the most uneducated, poor advice I have heard in a long time and unworthy of a Ted talk.
on one hand, you're totally right. on the other, this is a good lesson she is sharing with us, maybe some could learn on her mistakes!
@@user-aRb00d3r It sounds like a nice idea to learn from someones mistakes just by hearing them talk about it but human nature isn't so easily persuaded. The only person in this world that you can truly control is you thanks to free will. If you don't want to be kicked, don't hang out with someone that kicks you. People do it all the time though and rather than get up and do something new, they wounder why they have bruises, blame someone else, or sit there and keep being kicked while calling themselves a victim. Sometimes it is literally a matter of changing where you chose to sit.
I have a feeling if she stays in this relationship she will get many more gifts
Yep, every day is gonna be like Christmas for her. We'll, that is, of course, if there was a way to box up disrespect, betrayal, and STDs and stuff em under the tree.
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This was probably one of the worst TEDx I have ever seen
High praise, TED went off the rails when they got woke.
No, I have seen worst, Ted needs to check the speeches before they are aired.
She's a pick meisha
You can see how uncomfortable the audience is.
TED Talks just be letting anybody tell stories....
Yeah, unconditional love of being side chick 9871
Listen to your intuition ladies! Please! Never ignore your gut feeling ..it is always accurate!
She’s learning a lot with these experiences, and bound to learn a few more !
Love yourself enough to find a better man, give both yourself and someone new the chance to meet better.
Ya my ex-husband tried to give me these gifts when he had an affair with my ex-best friend. suppose that I have not "done as much work on myself" as I would not cross the street to piss on her if she were on fire.
By now, you've either bought some cats, or commenced doing the required work on yourself to land another man.
Right, she should be careful of the other gifts he has in store. The gift of Chlamydia, Herpes and the best gift of all HIV. What a giving partner.
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@@ytlongbeach does it sound like she has worked on it?
lol. U rule!
"what an honor to hear his truth"- lady wtf are you on?
lol that's what struck me as the most idiotic thing she said, except 'I'll give ya another go around"
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NOPE! NO..... i do not agree. i think you are in a toxic relationship. further what you have described in your partner's behavior sounds like he has narcissistic traits.
1- the initial break up he ghosts you. then explains it's because of your insecure behavior he chose to move on, but not before he explains he cheated. he found a new supply that he was more interested in, which inevitably failed and came back to you.
2-although you have once again been betrayed by the same person, he is somehow the victim in which you need to be there for him. this false intimacy you are describing is not ownership of his actions, but of how well you supply him with no boundaries and acceptance.
3-at this stage you have completely gave up on holding him accountable, so you now externalize the wrong doing upon the other girl. now you're essentially reinforcing narcissistic behavior as they will not hold themselves accountable. I'm not saying the other girl doesn't have her part to own up to but that's absurd.
you need to reassess the premise of self love and unconditional love. people make mistakes, their remorse will be shown by their following actions. he's made it clear that he will not change and that you will continueto project your mantra unto your relationship. of course with every continued transgression you will either have to "grow" your mantra to justify his acts or watch your belief system come apart. this is not love, it's co dependancy.
This is a perfectly formulated comment! I agree 100%
Donathan Harris well said. Completely agree
Brilliant comment!!. Glad to see that you guys are of sound minds to recognize this speakers very sad, blind, denial about infidelity. Looks like she is counselling and helping others who have also have esteem issues to embrace infidelity gifts, such as hepatitis, A-b-c, herpes, aids, trichomonaisis, siphillis, gono ect. This is the first time I am completely appalled, and dissapointed with presentation from TedTalks.
@@krissetteaerislahn6141 I am dead 😂😂 @"infidelity gifts"
You are absolutely correct, the actual title "The gifts of infidelity" sound to me like an encouragement/approval. If it happens ones it is bad enough, but three times in three years...He is a habitual cheater and a narcissist as well. I hope she wakes up soon or she will get hurt again.
I understand her point of forgiveness, compassion and self love! I think is amazing to discover all that while you are in pain. But, in order to feel good with yourself you don’t have to stay with that person. You can forgive, give compassion and have self love not taking him back and find a man who will respect you, love you, and help you grow “together” as a person and not just one person and the other person keeps hurting him/her because he/she knows that you are sooooo compassionate that will forgive him/her all the time and the point is not only you learning to have all those great qualities but also the other person have to learn that if he/she does not have those qualities or TRY he/she will lose so don’t be selfish with yourself and make yourself a favor and free yourself and be happy!
I actually feel bad for you. He's clearly destroyed your self esteem. You're being emotionally abused and manipulated
yeah, evidently also by her male psychotherapist! "Seeelff looove, must come first! " I don't know how brainwashed she was, but if you love something, you respect it. Not allow something to abuse it 3x (that she KNOWS OF!)
I have a feeling she never had it to begin with.
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Woman to woman ! I feel sorry for you ! You are not his mother, psychologist or therapist ! Wow, just wow. Unconditional love, pleeeease ............ i am so saddened by your message to women.
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Brie Chilli This was a bummer. I’m a man and that guy she’s with gives GOOD FAITHFUL men a bad name. She needs to kick him to the curb.
Thank you for saying this ! I agree with the poster. This is a bad TEDx
I agree, nor a good message for women I'm sorrry but if my boyfriend cheated on me , which he did twice. I left him. The way i see it if I'm not enough women for him and he is not willing to put effort into the relationship then i don't need to be in his life. I did forgive afterwards but also ended the relationship since he became toxic by his infidelity
Brie Chilli couldn’t agree more. This is so far from self love and self respect that I’m in awe...
She's addicted to the drama of the relationship..
It is so hard to take that a woman would blame a woman for what happened to the relationship. She may have talked to the other woman but his man will always cheat with any other woman. Self love is also about giving yourself a self respect that a man can't even give. Its ok to forgive, but staying in one relationship only to keep tracing and chasing who he is getting busy with is a total BS. That is not self love but too much adoration to one man who never once considered you as adorable enough to be faithful with. Your intuition is your friend but you have never put it into a good use. Use your gift lady!
This is about a boy you were dating right? No marriage, no kids, no house etc. You're a nice young girl and he isn't marriage material so move on.
Yes,when you’re married many many years and kids are involved it gets more complicated.
@May Baby Amen!
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There always will be a solution, but doesn’t mean it wont be “more complicated” my two cents
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Well said Paul
A greater sense of self respect and what healthy relationship partners offer is next lesson.
Classic narcissist and victim 🙄...what’s disturbing is she is coaching other people on relationships.
Lol these are couple therapists... I know a woman who was cheated on, recieved STD from her cheater husband and now shes a couple coacher and its so cringe
Wow I didn’t see it that way, but either way I thought the one always extending kindness was the codependent one? Idk, help me out
You talk about three gifts that you received but your boyfriend definitely would have realised what a wonderful gift💝 you are to him to genuinely understand him and show the unconditional love.. Bravo!!👏👏 Yet you deserve a better person sweetheart 💕
OK so she claims she got gifts..she should be glad she did not get some other gifts..like HIV or Herpes..
Sje jas the gift tjat keeps giving a cheater...
@@jordanallen8420 i wish you all the best brother man.
WOW I feel the light from this girl. And what a great light that is shes shining form such a darkness she started out with. Its actions like that, that will break people into hating them self's more then anything else. Also whats more ironic is her dark self would want all that but she would never get it unless inflicting it on a innocent person. You rarely get what you want in this world but if you try you will get what you need.
Doesnt mean she should stay with a toxic partner with a habit of cheating. She needs to value herself more by setting a rigid boundary and principles that she will not tolerate. If she were a cheater herself, then maybe her way of doing things makes sense. But she seems like a loyal person trying to stick with a undisciplined untrustworthy partner.
She needs to leave that relationship in the same grace she confronted her adulteror.
It’s hard to be open-minded when this is asking us to accept her being insecure is the reason the person she loved didn’t love her back as much. A committed relationship is not only one’s responsibility - it is both. It’s not a truth if you find out much later. As grown adults, I except total fidelity and we hold space for eachother equally. You can ‘universe agree’ it up all you want but you’re having a conversation with someone you should never have been in a place to have to speak to. Letting a man throw you away repeatedly and see it as finding gifts is the true insecurity to moving on and knowing that you deserve a partner who sees you rather than hides you.
Will never understand why people are so afraid of compassion, honesty and healing. Shes not saying thats what you have to do but she is showing us that honesty in all paths and things we feel SPECIALLY TOWARDS OUR PARTNER is 100% necessary even when it isnt easy. He broke it off cause he cheated and he was honest and she made the choice to work with it and stay. LIFE IS ABOUT CHOICES AND WHAT WE DO WITH THEM. Forgiveness and compassion are very necessary in this life and many people cultivate bitterness instead.
Wow....As a woman who has experienced infidelity, I have no clue how you were able to forgive and reconcile not once, not twice but three times. Uuuuuummmmmm...no thank you. My partner and I did manage to stay together. However, he is well aware that our relationship will end if it ever happens again. A gift I learned from all this in hindsight is that is not my job to make another woman aware of who I am. In other words, I should never have to let another B know that I'm the wife. That's my husband's job, and if he can't do that, he doesn't deserve the spot. I will applaud your ability to forgive though. You are wayyyyyyyyy bigger a person than I ever could or will ever be...
You are a much stronger person than I. I don’t think it’s healthy however for you to be giving so much love and compassion to someone who can’t be faithful to you. I wish you all the best
"Self-love" is really a nice way of saying selfish. Selfishness is the inherent state of the fallen nature of man (that means women too!). The only time we should entertain staying in a relationship where infidelity occurs is in the sacred covenant of marriage. Even then, divorce is completely within our natural "right" as a spouse. Yes, there are lessons to be learned with any experience. To tout those lessons as "gifts" means that they were given to you by God. God does not give infidelity as a gift. It occurs, and He leads you through it (those are the lessons He helps you with), but it's never His design.
THIS KIND OF LOVE TRANSFORMS THE WORLD!
I have been in a relationship where my wife has cheated on me multiple times and I have now stepped away from the situation. Regardless I respect the courage of this woman to have such love, compassion, and desire to understand. I have remained completely faithful while facing the opposite. I have read many of the soul-eaten comments here of people that have allowed hate, jealously, and anger destroy their trust, optimism, and aliveness. I GREATLY ADMIRE this woman for looking within herself and rising above all the negative emotions into a state of higher emotions and consciousness.
Holding hate and resentment and withholding forgiveness is like drinking poison and expecting it to hurt the other person. WE "the mistreated" KNOW the impact on BOTHSIDES, we still have standards, we just choose to address the issues from a place of inner-dependent peace. People may leave or stay from a place of love and understanding. The most empowering thing is to recognize: we are the cause and creators of our lives! To be or not to be! To choose what we "be".
It may definitely... It may destroy the balance of morality of humanity. If majority of people would act the same way, number of abuser will increase. It's human nature. You can still show love, compassion and forgive someone but it doesn't mean you have to take them back. Sometimes someone should learn through you but not with you.
This is the worst video ive seen. I think the gaslighting must be working. Self love is about self respect, surely after knowing the second time she should have ran.
I experienced exactly what eent through Kelsey. I feel compassion for both thst hurt me and my w boys. After 5 yrs i have no anger towatds them but love.
Girl, leave this guy! Just leave him! Run as fast as you can!
I can relate to much of what you are saying, as I felt and managed similarly to you in my personal situation. I have not been able to treat the other woman with the same level of love and respect that you’ve presented, however deep down I do not hate her, although I want to. The pain of this experiences is enormous, however, there is nothing gained from hate and revenge. I have put my faith in God and learning from the experience by looking inward. I am coming into my true self. I am learning to love myself more and be me. The true me. There’s a lot more to my story, however, there’s nothing gained from looking back or hate and forgiveness. I am choosing to look forward with love. Thank you for your talk. You are love.
Incondicional love doesn’t exist in romantic relationships! There is always a set of conditions your romantic partner has to meet for love to exist and persist, and your partner has clearly not been following your set of conditions! If fidelity wasn’t a condition for you you, you wouldn’t even care about his infidelities, but you clearly are hurt. So, get a man who respects you! That’s self-love!
What a sweet and wonderful giving woman. She definitely needs a better person worthy of her. This made me sad.
I guess she would welcome more infidelity given how much she gained from it...
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These are the people that are suposed to be experts? I learned once a cheater always in my teens, and love myself enough to know to trusty my gut. Did t e en need a degree to figure that out.
Right, lol???
I could teach her so much!
Exactly I don't agree with how she is presenting this idea.
I feel like a lot of commenters are missing the point. She learned a lot about loving through her experiences and being able to give love to herself, her partner and this other woman is the gift she’s giving from all those “gifts”/lessons she learned.
I think oftentimes we think love is all about what we get and sometimes forget it’s also about what we give. Yes, she definitely doesn’t deserve to be cheated on so many times, but she’s able to come out still giving love which I think is the most powerful force in the world. And it’s up to everyone else in her life to learn to better give love as well.
Esther Perel teaches about relationships better.
when someone has this "Don't leave me, I can't live without you" mentality.
that's NOT love,
that's PARASITISM.
It's codependency, is unhealthy, and toxic
I get it, and I respect your commitment to your own growth and learning. Simply shutting discomfort out of your life, though it may seem wise, shuts out learning and growth. Good on you for having compassion and prescience enough to listen to the deeper lesson. And simply shutting someone out that you love isn’t always the answer. Everyone deserves a chance and some compassion and understanding.
I guess this guy now knows he can cheat as much as he likes and she will always allow it.
I like that you kept the calm personality n nice way to explain things through the speech. I learned many things with this....its hard to be in your shoes, but harder to understand the other persons position when your suffering comes from their actions. Amazing lesson of humbleness n love!!
I disagree. If someone disrespect and betrays you, they don't deserve understanding they deserve consequences. It's important for both parties to move on, for the betrayed it is about dignity and self-worth and for the betrayer it is important for them to learn there will be consequences for their treachery. Some things in life are just raw and unpleasant, and it's better to accept them than to live a delusion in which we can add a positive spin to everything.
This is not loving and respecting herself. This is her making excuses and justifications for his behavour. She is obsessive over him and is doing anything to keep together. Sad...
Ok.... he cheated twice!! Forgave him once, second time he does, she confronts the 'other woman' like it's her fault. She was NOT married or committed to the 'other woman'. She should handled the issue with the husband who made a commitment and who keeps cheating. He will sleep with another lady and you will keep receiving the gifts he's giving you again and again, don't bother 'other women'. With online apps he does not need a relationship.. he will cheat, you will stay and you will seem desperate. You can do better.
@earth ocean 😂
After hearing this, if I were her client, I would demand my money back! What gibberish!
Exactly
Gibberish is the PERFECT word!!
I haven’t read all the comments on here but she was honest enough to say her behaviour was damaging the relationship with insecurity and fear. She said she felt like she had found that person who she truly loved! The fear of losing him.
I have experienced the same thing from women but then again I have never physically cheated on any of them. I hope her message at the start reaches men and women that the fear of losing someone isn’t a reason to try to control them so they don’t leave you. Hate other men, women because you fear they will take them away from you. Love yourself and know that you are good enough. Without that you are nothing.
The gifts of infidelity is heartbreak ..
I must say he's very gifted to have a flower like you.
This isn't about the cheating. It is her story of gaining awareness, taking responsibility, and ultimately about choosing what to put out into the world. Everyone walks their own path. I would say congrats to her for being able to see her path and her choices and not making it a rougher road for those yet to travel.
Having said that she must leave that narcissist. Afterall She has been just his backup option. Not his significant life partner.
Would you take it if your wife did that? No? Okay then. Please don't let her suffer anymore.
It surely is the best way to look at this things. Using bad situations to build your character and help you improve and grow as a person. However a relationship works both ways, and he doesn’t seem to be putting in any effort or respect for you. When i was with my ex girlfriend I started believing that she hadn’t gotten over her first love, and soon enough I found out that I was right. Her cousin told me, and I was angry, I felt betrayed and I wanted to make her feel bad too. But as I was thinking about what I should say, I realized something. Sometimes people are just not meant to be yours, sometimes there’s something different for you a bit farther down the road. I love romantic films, and I saw this as a love story that I simply wasn’t a part of. So I told her that I knew what she was feeling, (she denied it at first) and then I told her to tell him how she feels, the most likely thing is that he feels the same way. I told her to take the risk and go after him and that I truly hope that everything turns out alright for her. Fast forward 3 years, I have my new girlfriend who I love so much and I have been with for about 2 years and a half, there isn’t a doubt in my mind that she’s the girl I wanna marry. And my ex got with her first love. The point is, there is something better for you, sometimes it’s better to accept that a relationship simply doesn’t work. You deserve somebody that actually will respect u
One of the most misunderstood realities of staying in a relationship after cheating is that it is often the more courageous choice than walking away. Allowing someone the ability to cause such trauma and pain again, is not for the weak or faint hearted
I understand you 100%, I'm in the same situation. I forgive & take him back as he is my person too. My intuition is always right, I'm just waiting for him to trust in me to be able to handle the truth. When he does finally tell me what I already knew I feel the same relief, even when I am broken I accept his truth and we are working towards the why. Once we get there we will have that intimacy and relationship that is worth all of the struggles, the pain, the sacrifices made because of the sheer willingness to survive and come out the other side together.
Amy Golly you are the one with all the struggles, pain and sacrifice........he is just having fun. He cheats on you because you are not the one.
These same things have happened to me. Girl you are right but make sure you present this as the crux instead of the infidelity. We deserve better.
i feel so so so badly for this girl. she blamed herself and found faults with herself over his infidelity. she can do so much better, i really hope she finds herself and frees herself. this man doesn’t deserve her compassion :/
This poor woman. Poor poor woman. Lack of self confidence. Lack of self love? She should have left the dude. THAT would have been loving oneself. It's called self respect!
I appreciate this talk, Miss Grant. You are a beautiful human being that deserves love, respect and fidelity. Your dignity before God Himself and your own self is valuable. Please use this gifts and move on. That person may not value your worth and the immense love you have.
My humble comment, as I have been through the same.
God help us find clarity and our spouses to feel embraced by our love.
Thank you for reading.
I went through the EXACT same 3 instances in 1 1/2 years I’m still with my same girlfriend. I’m 22 years old and I found this video to help me grow. Me and my partner have found God as well.
Interesting to read all the comments and how so few can recognise the strength and wisdom in this woman. The body is the marker of truth and does still show there is some comfort eating ........but different to many who have been rude to this woman , I wish her all the best as she makes her way through the last few layers of the hurts that need clearing. Xo
Actions have consequences and this is healthy, otherwise we won't know something is bad for us - it orients us to reality. Forgiveness is her choice, but what makes that forgiveness so powerful (to choose to reconcile instead of breaking up) is that he is NOT worthy of it. He is worthy of dignity and respect, but to be given grace is different. Don't de-value the reality of the offense. We cannot recreate how life is designed to work. 'Loving yourself' can be a harmful way of trying to cover up the *truth* about yourself, especially if you are doing something wrong in an act or lifestyle choice. If I'm doing something unhealthy or harmful I can always speak positive affirmation, but it doesn't change the fact that I need help.
I'm glad I didn't see this in person. I would have gotten up and walked out.
I'd rather receive gifts as in perfumes, flowers, trips. Not psychological trauma
The opposite of mansplaining. Delusional. Delusional. Delusional. maybe you should see if you can get his other girlfriends to take him back. I mean, if you really love him, you would, right? Think some more about who is being realistic here. Do you think he will ever decide someone else whom he is attracted to is not an option? Others have been an option before. Why sign up for more of that? Delusional.
Here's my opinion hoping it will not hurt anybody. Kelsey, you are a great person building yourself to unreachable heights to the majority of people, that's good. Why do you waste your time with that kind of partner? I celebrate the unconditional love you give everyday, but don't hope it will change him or anybody. I learned this from a terrible experience: anybody can learn and build himself everyday in beautiful manners, but don't hope that the people around you will do it too. You can invite them, but most of them won't change. This will be a broken heart inevitably.
can you feel the audience's silence ... id like a where are they now on this girl and her "partner". this was beyond painful to listen to. like stab my eye with a pencil painful. after 3 times she should love herself enough to walk away from what is not serving her anymore poor girl
Self love is great but self love allows you to have boundaries. Doesn’t sound like you have any with your partner. Don’t be a doormat. Love yourself enough to demand that same love in return.