There is unironically nothing more comforting as a songwriter than watching Misha screw up chords or play a part too loud while tracking something. Reminds me that even absolute machines have to fiddle around to get stuff to sound right
I think everyone does that when writing. I come up with some of my best material when I fuck up something I'm working, because I would have never of played it that way I did when I just fucked it up....if that makes sense??
Eric Williams yeah man definitely, I played a note of a riff flat once and it gave me a minor version of the motif to use as a breakdown. Still one of my favourite pieces I’ve written
I don't think I've ever seen a better behind-the-scenes look at creating music. Thank you so much for the vulnerability of doing this in front of an audience!
@@23Guitardood I'm fine now, thanks for asking. Doctor said I might regain the use of my left hand, typing this with my tongue. Telling about work flow is hardly vulnerable tho
@@sp1r1tcrsh3r ahh I see... yeah I actually agree, not exactly "vulnerable" - wasn't sure what you were referring to in your initial comment. Also, tongue typing is my favorite... especially out in public
Useful contents indeed. I would have said "useful PIECES of content" or something if I was dead set on using the word "content." Since that would never be the situation....I probably would have just said something less gay and retarded as fuck than what you typed.
In the past couple of months I’ve hit a rut in guitar. Recently I invested in a mini home studio set up MacBook Pro, Scarlett 2i2, monitors. Got Bias FX for guitar & GGD Modern & Massive for drums and it has breathed new life in my song writing and guitar in general. These types of videos give me inspiration to write. I’ve been learning as much as I can about working in a daw, mixing, programming drums and etc through this TH-cam channel. THANK YOU @getgooddrums @mishamansoor
Its really nice to see your heros and inspirations as just a normal player outside of the music videos and live videos ,it in a way puts them down to your level and you feel like "holy hell I could do that" it really shows you just need comitment to a riff no matter how basic
27:10 Misha: Let's see if we can expand on this! *starts tuning his guitar but his audio is fastened* Me, who wasn't looking at the screen: He brought a mandolin?!
I love this video! It kinda reminds me of the 2 hour challenge Devin Townsend did a while back. Misha, thank you for sharing your process. This definitely inspired me.
I've been trying to piece together how to write, mix, and master on my own for awhile now. This is hands down the best source I've found. There is so much great concepts and ideas. Thank you so much for this! I sincerely appreciate it.
This really is very harmonically interesting. Loving how it is turning out. By the way, I have been struggling with awful piano rolls to sequence drums since 2006, and your deep dives into Cubase caused me to finally switch over and I love it. It's honestly got the best drum editor I've ever used, so thanks a ton for your tips man.
Thanks for doing this. Every time I get stuck, I come watch your vids for inspiration. I think you've single-handedly been the biggest catalyst for my growth in the studio over the last several years. I've learned more from you than I have through Berklee at this point.
It's definitely comforting to know Misha goes about songwriting and everything the same as me and many other. If only I had a decent recording tone, a bass and confidence in my audio engineering skills, maybe I'd stop scrapping ideas and produce some good material like this haha Sounds really good, Misha. Could imagine this as some sort of Interlude, possibly on your solo album? Look forward to the next parts!
Misha: I just wanted to say thanks a thousand times for this. I have been playing for years and years, and as silly as it sounds. I had no idea how a song was constructed without other people to build it with. You saved the day!!
Thank you for sharing this process. So interesting to see Cubase being used so fluidly. Seeing you program the drums in there so quick and easy really has me excited to get stuck into trying it. Love your work
Thank God For this. Sometimes it gets way to easy to hear a finished project from an artist and just assume they spot the whole thing out in one full stream of consciousness without any effort at all. Like the song was written in 10 minutes
Awesome to see an absolute champ at work. Good and interesting to see how you draw the line on what needs to be properly done in the writing process and what is just part imperfection of the writing and to keep the creative juice flowing! A lot still to learn for me!
This is exactly what I do when I sit down with a guitar, an idea, and my DAW. I intermingle musical ideas with mixing and getting the sounds right in my head. I flesh it out from there. So many say to save the mixing until after pre-production. Nope, not me. I have most of the mixing already done with the song is complete. Then I spend a little time with final mixing tweaks. Great video!
Dude this was released on my birthday so I know its a sign I am on my break of being a songwriter. This is really informative and it's great. Made me less insecure about my songwriting while giving me new techniques. Thank you! This is what I have been needing.
This is so amazing. I kind of followed in his footsteps (compositionally, not the recording and mixing part), and my extremely basic riff started sounding more dynamic and melodically richer.
This is great. So many artists I know get caught up on having to do everything perfectly the first time and can never get the concept that what you hear from bands is just the end product of a lot of hard work and trial and error. Good bands don't just "wing it" every performance.
Misha I wanted to tell you that the third Periphery album emotionally devastated me, and it will inspire my band to create more complex and nuanced music. In my opinion, you contribute madly well to the development of overall music. Now I am checking what you have to offer in your songwriting masterclass. Let's go!
Oh my God, this is content I didn't know I needed in my life! Misha, this is genius bro, please do some more! It's so helpful to get a look into your creative process! Thank you!
Dude, of all the cool stuff in here... swapping he left and right rhythm tracks to make prevent some of that copy paste feel when the guitars repeat is the dopest lol. Never once crossed my mind to do that before
When he said he "flipped it" what did he actually do? Just saw the left/right guitars to the opposite tracks? Or did he do something to the actual audio sample?
Thank you so much Misha for letting us see how you create masterpieces. They all start somewhere. Also shows us that we have to try and try again until it works. Brilliant
Currently writing some stuff, this helped me a lot, more so because of what other people said, that being that even top musicians like yourself (in my opinion) fiddle around and mess up sometimes. Thank you. 🎹🎸🌹
Wow not only is this really helpful to me but now I have that intro stuck in my head, very haunting yet beautiful at the same time. Really excited for pt 2 and 3 and the finished song!
The video we have all been waiting for.. Thank you soo much, The insight you have provided is priceless. Also thanks for letting us hang with you while you write.
Great validation for me seeing similar ways of recording song making process and comfort that I’ve been heading in the right direction with some of my ideas. Thanks so much. Can’t wait for parts 2 and 3!
Misha. Thanks so so much for this. I've been destroying myself confidence with my writing as I had convinced myself I was doing it all wrong. But this vid is an object demonstration of how I write ( albeit at a much lower quality and lower technical and musical ability). Come up with a hook/motif and build from there. I just need to massively improve the quality of my motifs and harmony knowledge.... MASSIVELY. Thanks again. Inspiring to watch.
This has absolutely inspired me. Seeing your brain work and how this process goes for you has taken so much anxiety away about getting started with recording. I'm really excited to start tracking things and hopefully will have an EP ready by next year. Periphery was my inspiration to take guitar playing seriously, and to start learning singing and harsh vocals. If I ever make any sort of contribution to the metal scene, I would cite your band as my biggest influence.
20:15 That's an interesting idea. I usually write with guitar pro just so I'm focused on what I'm writing. I'm not thinking about "I want more repeats on my delay" or "My tone isn't right". But that does mean that some parts come through sounding emotionless and robotic. And that kind of hinders my writing sometimes. I can't think of what I want to come next or what to add when what I am listening to isn't even hitting me like it's supposed to.
I used to write in guitar pro ALOT! I totally get what you mean, now I have a proper home studio set up, I do find I write differently now. Maybe I should go back and try it see what happens?
I don’t have time to fiddle around with a song for hours. That’s why I made a system that boiled down my songwriting process to minutes and cranks out what I’d already do. Using D&D dice. But I’m not making huge prog songs either.
Setting up a metronome with accent marks might help with creating interesting rhythms that don’t accentuate typical 4/4 patterns. Something neat to try.
You also can begin this song with an mystical violinsection and than a halftime feel (maybe some vague latin percussion blocks with a filter on it), than after 4 times your drumprogramming now (and accent the last 2 notes on splashes, aka question-answer in musical terms) and 5 over 3 polyrythm pattern for tension at the end of each phrase...And a countermelody in long sounds build up.... Just an idea that pops up in my head man, you inspire us, great stuff you show!!! ;) Thanks man! Cheers from The Netherlands, Jeroen Simons, Independent, ex- Epica. Ps. I dropped your (And Nollies) name at Warren Huart, Produce like a Pro... I like to connect dots in that way too..;)
i enjoyed when you were trying sincapated palm muting before the open chords to match the high hat, very animals as leaders! I dig the vibe, super dark and moody with a really open ended resolution, could tackle this so many diffrent ways
i was intimidated to learn daw about 6 months ago, now i feel like i am finally at least really improving and actually learning, this is tough, not easy at all but i love playing around with drums and keyboards, now i feel like i have a whole other dimension of sounds and ideas to play with as opposed to just jammin my guitar
I jut did, literally everything you did in this first part and to be honest, I kind of like what achieved. I'm struggling getting a good tone for my guitar, and to make my ideas sound great. Not a fan of amp sims, since I cannot get what i want from BIAS FX 2 using high gain amps. But your workshop helps
There is unironically nothing more comforting as a songwriter than watching Misha screw up chords or play a part too loud while tracking something. Reminds me that even absolute machines have to fiddle around to get stuff to sound right
Suffy Honestly most of what I’m doing when I’m writing is messing things up haha, you guys usually only hear what makes it through haha!
@@MishaMansoor Exactly dude! Man 90% of my studio time is just fuckin fiddlin around until it sounds decent.
I think everyone does that when writing. I come up with some of my best material when I fuck up something I'm working, because I would have never of played it that way I did when I just fucked it up....if that makes sense??
Eric Williams yeah man definitely, I played a note of a riff flat once and it gave me a minor version of the motif to use as a breakdown. Still one of my favourite pieces I’ve written
music isn't about doing everything perfectly, or comparing yourself to others. Just have fun
that moment when his first draft of an idea has a better mix than something you’ve spent weeks on
This is where Misha's experience of workflow comes into view. He has a process and he knows what he likes
Yeah seriously
~$5k in gear & software lol
@@MrCk1234567890 his Mac alone is 5-10k guaranteed
Why does that feel personal 🤣
I don't think I've ever seen a better behind-the-scenes look at creating music. Thank you so much for the vulnerability of doing this in front of an audience!
whatereyou talking about ebvan`? lamo
Devin Townsend did this
@@sp1r1tcrsh3r did you just have a stroke? wtf is this comment, lol...
Edit for autocorrect failure...
@@23Guitardood I'm fine now, thanks for asking. Doctor said I might regain the use of my left hand, typing this with my tongue. Telling about work flow is hardly vulnerable tho
@@sp1r1tcrsh3r ahh I see... yeah I actually agree, not exactly "vulnerable" - wasn't sure what you were referring to in your initial comment. Also, tongue typing is my favorite... especially out in public
This is probably one of the most useful contents on youtube that almost nobody shares Thank you very much Misha, you are amazing man!
Useful contents indeed.
I would have said "useful PIECES of content" or something if I was dead set on using the word "content."
Since that would never be the situation....I probably would have just said something less gay and retarded as fuck than what you typed.
In the past couple of months I’ve hit a rut in guitar. Recently I invested in a mini home studio set up MacBook Pro, Scarlett 2i2, monitors. Got Bias FX for guitar & GGD Modern & Massive for drums and it has breathed new life in my song writing and guitar in general. These types of videos give me inspiration to write. I’ve been learning as much as I can about working in a daw, mixing, programming drums and etc through this TH-cam channel. THANK YOU @getgooddrums @mishamansoor
Emil Andersen thank you dude
Same here. It's pretty challenging to try and learn everything on your own but I'm doing it! Thank God for TH-cam videos am I right?
What program is he using? Do you have to pay monthly for it?
TunnelSnake9337 are you referring to the recording program?
That's such a beautiful motif Misha! Very excited to watch it develop, thank you for this valuable content 😍
Haha ofcourse you're here! Hope you have a good day, sir :D
Ehehe same to you Kris! Have a great one 😍
Ulala! 💙O💙 I agree
Glad ya dig it pal!
fancy seeing you here joao haha
You could have your own Bob Ross type show. This is great.
Baylor Kern-Lovick spot on
Just happy accidents
Here's where we put a little cluster of clusters.
Beautiful little things happen in this magical world
Happy little clusters! 🤣
I have been waiting for this type of video, from this very person, for so long. such an inspirational writer to me.
Its really nice to see your heros and inspirations as just a normal player outside of the music videos and live videos ,it in a way puts them down to your level and you feel like "holy hell I could do that" it really shows you just need comitment to a riff no matter how basic
27:10
Misha: Let's see if we can expand on this!
*starts tuning his guitar but his audio is fastened*
Me, who wasn't looking at the screen: He brought a mandolin?!
Generous genius at work. Anyone else agree?
Autism at work. Anyone else agree?
Not cool brother. Not cool
having just purchased your Modern & massive pack this masterclass series timing is perfect! Thank you!
Misha Mansoor mumbles and plays guitar - The Movie!
HMMM
😂
I'm not even a musician so I don't know what I'm doing here, but this is so fascinating to watch.
same lol, I'm just here to witness the genius that is Misha being Misha
My understanding is that you are a lump of coal.
I love this video! It kinda reminds me of the 2 hour challenge Devin Townsend did a while back. Misha, thank you for sharing your process. This definitely inspired me.
This is why I love songwriting; there's nothing more satisfying than taking a simple musical idea and hearing it come to life in the form of a song.
This is awesome! I kind of feel like I am watching Bob Ross paint some happy little trees🌲. Misha room painting some happy little soundscapes
Brain Toggle we all need happy little friends
@@fredriksvard2603 Right on!!
Holy shit misha. You have no idea how much i needed this. Thanks man. Seriously.
This may be the most important video on youtube, thank you 🙏
Can’t wait for the next Part! It makes me really lucky to see that also a genius like Misha works with trial and error. Love it.
I've never been so excited for an upload!
I've been trying to piece together how to write, mix, and master on my own for awhile now. This is hands down the best source I've found. There is so much great concepts and ideas. Thank you so much for this! I sincerely appreciate it.
This really is very harmonically interesting. Loving how it is turning out. By the way, I have been struggling with awful piano rolls to sequence drums since 2006, and your deep dives into Cubase caused me to finally switch over and I love it. It's honestly got the best drum editor I've ever used, so thanks a ton for your tips man.
I was wondering what DAW this was. Is there a stand-alone midi editor that's nice like this one?
@@Kathayne636Reaper, and Fl Studio (they both have midi editors).
Thanks for doing this. Every time I get stuck, I come watch your vids for inspiration. I think you've single-handedly been the biggest catalyst for my growth in the studio over the last several years. I've learned more from you than I have through Berklee at this point.
Didn't even watch the video before liking it, whatever this is I'm here for it
It's definitely comforting to know Misha goes about songwriting and everything the same as me and many other. If only I had a decent recording tone, a bass and confidence in my audio engineering skills, maybe I'd stop scrapping ideas and produce some good material like this haha Sounds really good, Misha. Could imagine this as some sort of Interlude, possibly on your solo album? Look forward to the next parts!
Misha: I just wanted to say thanks a thousand times for this. I have been playing for years and years, and as silly as it sounds. I had no idea how a song was constructed without other people to build it with. You saved the day!!
this is so cool, so happy you released this! cant wait for part 2 and 3!
mad respect for the S.C.I.E.N.C.E. head
Thank you for sharing this process. So interesting to see Cubase being used so fluidly. Seeing you program the drums in there so quick and easy really has me excited to get stuck into trying it. Love your work
Thank God For this. Sometimes it gets way to easy to hear a finished project from an artist and just assume they spot the whole thing out in one full stream of consciousness without any effort at all. Like the song was written in 10 minutes
Agreed man, this was such a down to earth video getting to hear his thought process and even the wrong notes, reminds us he's still human lol
This absolutely just made my Friday! Thanks Misha and GGD crew!
Awesome to see an absolute champ at work. Good and interesting to see how you draw the line on what needs to be properly done in the writing process and what is just part imperfection of the writing and to keep the creative juice flowing!
A lot still to learn for me!
Man, this is so cool to watch. Thanks for doing this Misha!
This is exactly what I do when I sit down with a guitar, an idea, and my DAW. I intermingle musical ideas with mixing and getting the sounds right in my head. I flesh it out from there. So many say to save the mixing until after pre-production. Nope, not me. I have most of the mixing already done with the song is complete. Then I spend a little time with final mixing tweaks. Great video!
Misha amazing work you're doing for the rest of the musicians/producers, We love the way yo do music so thank you so much for treasures like this.
Finally! I've been waiting for this topic from Misha for a long time. Super top ✊
Dude this was released on my birthday so I know its a sign I am on my break of being a songwriter. This is really informative and it's great. Made me less insecure about my songwriting while giving me new techniques. Thank you! This is what I have been needing.
This is so amazing. I kind of followed in his footsteps (compositionally, not the recording and mixing part), and my extremely basic riff started sounding more dynamic and melodically richer.
This is great. So many artists I know get caught up on having to do everything perfectly the first time and can never get the concept that what you hear from bands is just the end product of a lot of hard work and trial and error.
Good bands don't just "wing it" every performance.
Misha I wanted to tell you that the third Periphery album emotionally devastated me, and it will inspire my band to create more complex and nuanced music. In my opinion, you contribute madly well to the development of overall music. Now I am checking what you have to offer in your songwriting masterclass. Let's go!
Oh my God, this is content I didn't know I needed in my life! Misha, this is genius bro, please do some more! It's so helpful to get a look into your creative process! Thank you!
that tone with that effect gives me p1 vibes in beginning.
the jam reminds me of the band Toska w/ Rabea Massad. cool stuff
Dude, of all the cool stuff in here... swapping he left and right rhythm tracks to make prevent some of that copy paste feel when the guitars repeat is the dopest lol. Never once crossed my mind to do that before
When he said he "flipped it" what did he actually do? Just saw the left/right guitars to the opposite tracks? Or did he do something to the actual audio sample?
Thank you so much Misha for letting us see how you create masterpieces. They all start somewhere. Also shows us that we have to try and try again until it works. Brilliant
It just came on the right time. I want to make an album for fun an it is very good starting point for me. Thanks Misha!!
I love this video cause it's so honest and unpolished!
Currently writing some stuff, this helped me a lot, more so because of what other people said, that being that even top musicians like yourself (in my opinion) fiddle around and mess up sometimes. Thank you. 🎹🎸🌹
"The two count, I can make it!"
This is me every time oh god oh fuck
The content we need in our lives
Just from the title I know I can already press the like button. Excited to see this!
Cool Great stuff
Absolutely fantastic video! So excited to see this pop up on my recommended
Wow not only is this really helpful to me but now I have that intro stuck in my head, very haunting yet beautiful at the same time. Really excited for pt 2 and 3 and the finished song!
Misha when is the next part? such an amazing stuff. And this melody... hands down
The video we have all been waiting for..
Thank you soo much, The insight you have provided is priceless.
Also thanks for letting us hang with you while you write.
Chris Bedan Haha no worries dude, it is kinda nerve wracking to show the whole thing, but we figured it might be worthwhile!
Great validation for me seeing similar ways of recording song making process and comfort that I’ve been heading in the right direction with some of my ideas. Thanks so much. Can’t wait for parts 2 and 3!
Misha. Thanks so so much for this. I've been destroying myself confidence with my writing as I had convinced myself I was doing it all wrong. But this vid is an object demonstration of how I write ( albeit at a much lower quality and lower technical and musical ability). Come up with a hook/motif and build from there. I just need to massively improve the quality of my motifs and harmony knowledge.... MASSIVELY. Thanks again. Inspiring to watch.
This is awesome man keep it coming. I really need to get the hang of the drum programming and break away from sample libraries
Thanks for this, can't wait to see how it turns out.
I'd hate to draw any attention from the brilliant display of creativity and workflow, but Misha's got some forearms!
This makes me incredibly happy, can't wait for the other 2 parts
This has absolutely inspired me. Seeing your brain work and how this process goes for you has taken so much anxiety away about getting started with recording. I'm really excited to start tracking things and hopefully will have an EP ready by next year. Periphery was my inspiration to take guitar playing seriously, and to start learning singing and harsh vocals. If I ever make any sort of contribution to the metal scene, I would cite your band as my biggest influence.
20:15 That's an interesting idea. I usually write with guitar pro just so I'm focused on what I'm writing. I'm not thinking about "I want more repeats on my delay" or "My tone isn't right". But that does mean that some parts come through sounding emotionless and robotic. And that kind of hinders my writing sometimes. I can't think of what I want to come next or what to add when what I am listening to isn't even hitting me like it's supposed to.
I used to write in guitar pro ALOT! I totally get what you mean, now I have a proper home studio set up, I do find I write differently now. Maybe I should go back and try it see what happens?
Looking forward for part 2 and 3! I recommend to anyone watching this to also check out The Devin Townsend Challenge
a straight *4/4* groove passed by 14:13
lmao!
You made my day xD
Spirits of rhythmic modulation flying around
😂
*a wild 4|4 groove appears*
The intro is 5/4?
Misha you are a genius really. It is creazy how good you are at all you do.
Ive been looking up song writing vids nd subbed to a couple channels just last night! Delighted to see this in my feed today.
This is cathartic af. Love it
i try to avoid trial and error the best i can, but i cannot deny that for the amount of songs misha produces, this is probably the most efficient way
9 min in and im so ready to try sound software, thx for being so transparent.
Thanks Misha looking forward to the next part !!!!!!! 😀😎😀
What he says at the 20:00 mark through 20:30... I couldn't agree more!
wow thanks for this. an awesome look into your process!
Absolutely love that you guys did a series like this. Looking forward to more stuff like this.
Beautiful Holdsworth flavors in that motif 🙌🏻
Thank you for the video and thanks a lot for Misha as well, this video gives me motivation to continue music as a guitarist and composer. Cheers.
What a fantastic video showing the recording process. Thanks so much for the insight into your way of thinking Misha! :-)
You make it look so easy man. Huge fan since the soundclick days.
Thanks for this, Misha. I always look forward to watching your production videos.
I don’t have time to fiddle around with a song for hours. That’s why I made a system that boiled down my songwriting process to minutes and cranks out what I’d already do.
Using D&D dice.
But I’m not making huge prog songs either.
Very thankful that you took the time to do this. You’re the man🤘🏼
PART 2 please! I just recently started learning how to program drums and stuff and this is definitely helpful.
This is GOLD. Thank you Misha!
Pure gold. Thanks, Misha!
Awesome ..,incredible talent...
Thank you Misha for this project. Love it. I always struggled with this process and never got into it completely.
Getting some Toska vibes from that clean melody! Looking forward to watching the other parts.
Always late to the party but love these vids. Thanks Misha GGD is awesome.
Setting up a metronome with accent marks might help with creating interesting rhythms that don’t accentuate typical 4/4 patterns. Something neat to try.
Kevin Berstler I actually take the accents out of the click so that the click can be a “blank canvas” of sorts!
Misha Mansoor hahaha fuck! I just realized I wrote “with” instead of “without.”
That’s what I was trying to say. No accents = free, open, blank.
Misha Mansoor would love to hear more explanation on how you count stuff. I get so lost trying to count this lmao
You also can begin this song with an mystical violinsection and than a halftime feel (maybe some vague latin percussion blocks with a filter on it), than after 4 times your drumprogramming now (and accent the last 2 notes on splashes, aka question-answer in musical terms) and 5 over 3 polyrythm pattern for tension at the end of each phrase...And a countermelody in long sounds build up.... Just an idea that pops up in my head man, you inspire us, great stuff you show!!! ;) Thanks man! Cheers from The Netherlands, Jeroen Simons, Independent, ex- Epica. Ps. I dropped your (And Nollies) name at Warren Huart, Produce like a Pro... I like to connect dots in that way too..;)
Id expect to pay at least 100$ for this quality of masterclass
i enjoyed when you were trying sincapated palm muting before the open chords to match the high hat, very animals as leaders! I dig the vibe, super dark and moody with a really open ended resolution, could tackle this so many diffrent ways
i was intimidated to learn daw about 6 months ago, now i feel like i am finally at least really improving and actually learning, this is tough, not easy at all but i love playing around with drums and keyboards, now i feel like i have a whole other dimension of sounds and ideas to play with as opposed to just jammin my guitar
This is so refreshing! Makes me feel better that I do a lot of what he does so I don't feel like such a cheater anymore haha!
1:57 already better than anything i've ever written
Super cool to see how song development works.
Super helpful, Thanks Misha. Very interesting looking into someones workflow. Esp yours!
I jut did, literally everything you did in this first part and to be honest, I kind of like what achieved. I'm struggling getting a good tone for my guitar, and to make my ideas sound great. Not a fan of amp sims, since I cannot get what i want from BIAS FX 2 using high gain amps. But your workshop helps
I love this stuff. I've wondered why a lot of awesome musicians dont make a handful more videos like this.
they're probably too secretive or not confident with their process