Falcon is shirtless in sharon's apartment in episode 3. Even paul rudd had a shirtless scene in the first antman. To be fair, dc has been doing the same thing with the dceu
We've seen Steve Rogers, Thor, Tony, Bruce, Dr. Strange, Sam (TFATWS), Bucky (also TFATWS), T'Challa, Spiderman, Antman, and now Loki shirtless. Pretty sure they'll have Hawkeye be shirtless in his show once too.
6:59 Apparently Marvel confirmed the theory that the reason Loki was such a big villain in Avengers (i.e. killing innocent ppl and enjoying it), is that the Mind Stone was influencing him and fueling his hatred.
Well there’s three types of things a story can do: talking, fighting, or showing. None of them are inherently bad, though, many works of fiction are almost exclusively talking.
The movie Seven was an inspiration for the loki series and it was very dialogue heavy. People compare the last episode of loki to the engineer scene in matrix, but I think it's more similar to the climax of seven. Both are exposition dumps with a lot of dialogue. But there's a charismatic performance by the villain that ends in a moral quandary over killing the villain.
Sylvie realised that Renslayer was lying abt the void spacecraft was because when sylvie asked miss minutes to get the files abt this spacecraft she didnt give it to her.
Yeah, also if you remember, Renslayer started explaining about the pruning but later it was Miss Minutes who interrupts and says about the void spacecraft and Renslayer in a weird tone says Yes, which Sylvie caught on to.
What’s scary is that every hero he named actually was shirtless in their respective movie or show. I looked back at the fantastic four and yeah. Even every member has either been naked or shirtless. Holy crap.
Wasn’t it confirmed a while back that Loki was under the influence of the Scepter in Avengers which is why he was more unhinged and evil in his actions in that movie and that movie alone.
Not any more than in Thor. A lot of Asgardians died because of him, he tried to have Thor and his friends killed and he also tried to commit genocide. He was also pretty evil in Thor 2. It was only after that that he became more neutral and now he is basically a good guy.
@@Mushfiqur25 They never mentioned that Loki was more evil because of the Scepter in the Avengers 😭 Even then that doesn't explain why he's still evil in Thor 😭
For people who enjoy a well-constructed plot and character development, Phase Four has been impossible to enjoy--I think Ryan George falls into that camp.
@@harold3165 they literaly break space and time, and also destroy charackters left and right, but yeah call it nitpicking you might feel better that way
to answer Jaby and Achara's musings....The Men of Marvel shirtless scenes: Iron man: when Pepper replaces his arc reactor for him. Bucky: waking up in falcon and winter soldier Falcon: Changing at Sharon's place Captain America... obviously Thor: Fat in endgame also in Thor 1 Loki: Tva scene T'challa: fighting Killmonger Starlord: Changing shirts spiderman: Taking off suit in his room with Ned Dr Strange: Chest exposed on the operating table Hawkeye: After he gets injured in Age of Ultron Banner: After changing back from the Hulk (anytime) Antman: Nursing injury after fighting Hope Vision: At the moment of birth
Loki definitely got a power buff in this series, but it's not the first time we've seen him use those powers tbh - he used telekinesis in Thor: The Dark World after learning of Frigga's death, & he looked in Valkyrie's mind in Thor: Ragnorak to see Hela killing her sisters/ the other Valkyries.
Yeah, but the problem is not so much that he has become more powerful, but that he never uses these new powers except when the plot wants him to. He can use his telekinesis to lift a crumbling building but doesn't use it during any of the later fights ? Why ?
Telekenisis power, we can see a little of that on Thors 2, and then Later He revive memories in Valkyries mind in Thor Ragnarok, so the powers were there just not exploid.
I was waiting for this reaction. Sylvie may have driven the plot, but loki gets all the character development. Also, the video alone did rush loki's character development, though it did have an impact on him. He was faced with hard hitting existential questions/revelations provided by mobius as well as his interactions with sylvie that developed him as a character.
Loki did absolutely nothing in his own show, he followed Sylvie around talking about how amazing she is while he gets hurt and humiliated for comedy and loses every encounter he gets into
I don't think that Ryan disliked Loki. It's just that pointing the plot holes is kinda his job. Also I was thinking now and I don't think the fact that loki being punished when the avengers weren't is a plot hole since Kang/He who remains has said he paved the way for Loki. So we can assume the time travels in endgame suppose to happend and Loki also was suppose to get caught by the tva so he would be at the end of time with sylvie.
If the show didn't shifted from Loki to some random female loki, it would have been great show. and at that time we didn't see any of it but currently as every marvel show movies , this is the common thing. using our favourites for advt and promotion and then shift them sideways not even give them proper role .
tbh, my problem with the powers was that in the comics/mythology the character could always do that, it's just that the writers never bothered to explore it in the movies before and it feels like they are just giving him all these abilities out of nowhere
Yeah the telekinetic thing was done in a Thor the dark world, when he was pissed about Freya's death. He could go in people mind in thor Ragnarok he did to Valkiry. He could've done that before but it wasn't in the focus
In terms of mcu characters who have to b shirtless: Iron Man: yes Ant Man: yes Every one of the Chris's: yes Tom Holland: Yes Dr Strange: Yes Even Edward Norton in his Hulk Movie and Mark Ruffalo in the Avengers Movie both have a shirtless Bruce Banner scene. If Hawkeye doesn't have one yet, we definitely going to get one in his series. I'm pretty sure they write it into the contract now lol.
Raveena told her about the pruning but Miss Minutes came up with the time machine thing... so it might have been the source of the information and the time it took to find the file that clued Sylvie in that it was a lie. Also, Sylvie alone couldn't have enchanted the smoke monster. She and Loki together managed because they are much stronger together (nexus being?) and even then it took a third Loki for a massive diversion. So even if people with similar powers ever got there, they needed more people to succeed... but normal people usually die before they manage to make some serious plans. Only Lokis tend to make it long enough because they are survivors (and Lokis don't work together so they are doomed).
Loki only ever was a pure villain in one movie, the 1st Avengers. That's it. And loved the talky finale, I needed those answers, it was more meaningful and satisfying than any giant fight sequence could have ever been.
Yea and it was confirmed that the reason he appears more evil is because the sceptor actually controlled loki to some degree, this was confimed way before the show. So yea it makes sense, I just think jaby probably hasn't heard about that clarification.
@@Сайтамен not a pure evil who'd kill just about anyone. He was jealous of Thor and wanted to destroy the frost giants cause he hated the fact that he was one of them. The destroyer just sent Thor flying, it didn't really try to kill him after Thor pleaded with Loki.
Actually even though character dev was slightly rushed nit wasnt that much...the first 2 episodes were basically dedicated to show Lokis motives and vulnerabilities and stuff...it was actually quite well done!
Loki has a lot of cool powers in the comics but the issue here with this series is that it is very inconsistent and hardly happens. Not to mention they are a character that's lived for years and are powerful so why wouldn't they know any of this stuff? And, Loki is definitely not the main character in the way that if you replaced him with any character, the story and the plot still holds since neither their history nor powers make any difference to the plotline.
Yes we did see the human torch almost naked after he caught fire on the ski slope. I didn't mind that Sylvie was featured so prominently in the series.
01:56 The desert scene after he escapes from the terrorists in the first movie. He was using his shirt in his head as a turbant. It was not sexy per si, but he was shirtless anyway.
It just felt like they wanted us to believe this is was the same Loki as the one from infinity war and that was the purpose of the video. He watched all these life events so he essentially “lived” through them
Wasn’t Loki only the villain in The Avengers because the power from the teseract was messing with his mind? I did find the finale really too expository and underwhelming. The most surprising part of it was Miss Minutes. But that does play into the simple mistake of announcing the point of the phase before seeing it play out. I just wish Loki had more impact in the end. However, I do realize that probably stems from Tom Hiddleston’s humility. And I am sure Loki and Mobius will have a good storyline in season 2.
The extra step exists because law of conservation of mass that's a real physical law you can't destroy mass like that, even if you disintegrate the particles remain and so does the branch, therefore you have to shift it, the fact that everyone jumped immediately jumped to yeah that's just the show being a show just goes to show how easily we take a chance to dump on something, I know someone is going to say not everyone can know science on their finger tips, well 1 ravonna literally mentioned this law she said we can't destroy all the matter, so the reason there is an extra step is becuase that's they can't do it without that and 2 the show isn't responsible for our lack of scientific knowledge either especially when it's one of the most basic laws of science, so basic that it's taught in primary school and literally mentioned at every turn and corner, and I actually that the timelines are being shifted instead of cut off which really goes to show that tva is an unnatural external force and not like some really supreme righteous organization. Kinda like a real world dictatorship would be.(void=concentration camps) I'll leave it there
Then why tf are they called reset charges If they dont reset sh*t? Or If they do reset stuff, then removing mass from the timeline just prevents it from being reset back to the way of the sacred timeline.
Revisiting it after season two now we know the reason why the timeline branched when they held hands is because they were always meant to get away so once they genuinely accepted their fates of dying it drastically threw off the plan, which made them findable
7:00 Or give him kinda the Mandela Effect treatment, absorb the memories of post first Avengers main time Loki including his death with Thanos or make him watch ALL the MCU movies after the first Avenger movie in order off screen, including all his future character development scenes we haven't seen until his death with Thanos. Problem Solved.
It's been confirmed that Loki was so much more evil in Avengers because the scepter was affecting him big-time. Even in Thor before he really ever started changing he was mainly just a trickster that wanted the attention of his dad and to be loved.
That would make sense to be honest. Because when Mobius was showing Loki what he has done, he did look uncomfortable watching himself commit "some" of these malicious acts.
To be honest I don't really like that explanation. I think it would have made more sense that when thanos finds loki at the end of the first thor movie, loki is in a much more vulnerable mental state, havng been rejected by odin. This would have allowed thanos to manipulate loki into setting off the events of the first avengers movie.
@@metallicnole4514 why not be a bit of both? Thanos could manipulate his broken state of mind, and then the scepter could come in and influence him and make him feel not so broken?
He wanted to eradicate an entire race of beings (Jotunheim) in Thor 1 so I don't think mischievous is quite correct. He was always willing to do horrible things to accomplish his goals, understandable though his motivations were, so the contrast between the movies and the show is still stark (pardon the pun).
So a thing that was odd that everyone made about Sylvia and Loki’s love was that they might have confused it with genetic laws. Even the show got it wrong. The thing is that Loki and Sylvia are quite different. Not just personality wise but also genetics. For example, if you made a clone of yourself and fell in love that would be weird Bc the clone had your exact DNA making you related. But Sylvia and Loki don’t have the same DNA. They’re spliced versions of different outcomes, situations, genes, and personalities. Bc of all those factors they aren’t the same person. They can just go by the same name. Bc if we go by the shows logic and what everyone complained about, that means Gator Loki is related to Variant Loki. Which he isn’t.
Jaby, here's a list of everyone who has appeared shirtless...or well people I can recollect at the moment Robert Downey Jr. Chris Hemsworth (Now) Tom Hiddleston Chris Evans Mark Ruffalo Paul Rudd Chris Pratt Chadwick Boseman Anthony Mackie Sebastian Stan Tom Holland Benedict Cumberbatch Edward Norton (Raccooned) Bradley Cooper Dave Bautista So almost every single male character in the MCU with a leading role
You: “Have we seen the one character whose entire set of powers stems from him installing a magnet in his chest with a miniature fusion reactor to power it, with his shirt off???” Rhodey: “…so, he’s an idiot???
What truly changed Loky was his mother's death, THAT was his turning point. He really cared for Frigga. So, whe he sees her death bc of him that(even if a little rushed) is what really makes a difference in him
When Ryan said "He watched a video" I feel that is over simplification for comedy. Because it was not just any video, it was Loki's whole life. And when someone sees his mistakes, consequences, etc. And how his life is totally different from what he expected, it will surely change them quite a bit. The episode's name "Glorious Purpose" fits perfectly.
The show actually does explain that pruning sends things to the Void because of conservation-of-mass limitations. And they don't just shoot people because then they'd still need to get rid of the variants' remains somehow in order for the timeline to heal itself.
The older an Asgardia gets, the more and more powerful they become. So either of them continuing to discover new powers inside themselves as they continued to evolve and age isn't so nuts or "convenient." In the comic series, The Infinity Guauntlet, there is a fight scene where the characters are all trying to take on Thanos and Thanos uses the Time Gem to age all those facing him. When he does it to Thor, as he ages him thousands of years more than he already is, Thor just got stronger and stronger. That is another reason why Odin was so powerful--I hope everyone noticed that Thanos had to wait for Odin to die before he went to war to gain the gems. Anytime Thanos went up against Odin in the comics, Odin handed his ass to him.
The reason for pruning and not killing is that...u r forgetting that whole realities can be pruned not juts individuals...and they explained that matter from these realities cany just be destroyed like that with minimal energy (which is a physics principle loosely speaking)...hence Alioth...the creature who feasts on matter and energy
I didn’t find the “he watched a movie” character change to be offensive. I thought it was a good way to get from the Loki from Avengers to the one we knew later.
@@pamoweiberezi5315 Tom Hiddleston's Loki? The character that they have been setting up for 10 years. The character who played this scene in Avengers? th-cam.com/video/f7cjpeRuNQc/w-d-xo.html? That is a character that may be evil, but has the capacity for good. To me it makes sense that seeing the potential for good he found on the prime timeline could change his life. Not that he's completely and totally changed, but that he can be better. I thought it was really cool.
@@HitcherWitcher11 may be evil? He killed 80 people in 3 days and orchestrated a planetary takeover that resulted in a genocide. They basically retconned his character
@@pamoweiberezi5315 well he had severe inferiority complex issues, like he told he always felt lesser and weaker than thor so he killed people and did bad things pretending to like it. And it was broken when he got to know he got killed his mother cuz of this and that his dad and brother loved him.... So yeah it's a strong point to change his character
You see there can only ever be allowed a single timeline. Any branches from the one single allowable timeline must be clipped, which is how a 10 year old girl version of Loki can make a right or wrong decision or a crocodile version of Loki can eat the wrong cat. Because apparently things that aren't supposed to exist to begin with can make correct choices decades or even epochs into their forbidden existence.
The finale for wandavision and Loki sync up actually. When he who remains says they crossed the threshold, Wanda gave in to her darker powers against agnes. So after endgame. Remember time passes differently in the tva.
7:20 And... Loki was under the influence of the Mind-Stone in the first Avengers movie. Hulk probably knocked that manipulated brain stuff right out of him, "Puny god."
@@rohanmondkar9467 And it also manipulates the Avengers just by their being in proximity to it. There was a whole scene about that. Remember? Loki was with it for much longer. Figuring this out was super easy. Barely an inconvenience
Just to be clear Tony whenever he's fiddling with the arc reactor Evans transformation Hemsworth Ragnarok and Thor 1 Renner then boseman in the water fight and waking up scene Tom scene with ned in homecoming and mj in ffh yeah pretty much
The reason Loki is mor sympathetic here then he was in The Avengers was because in the Avengers he was controlled and corrupted by the Mind Stone according to the Russos.
The problems with his new powers are 1: The come completely out of know where and he doesn’t even seem surprised 2: He never developed any of the powers through his phase 2 and 3 years.
Tony stark was shirtless many times. They showed his chest piece.
To bad they don’t care enough to heart or reply, or even read this…. Shame
@@thekaizobro9971yes I agree ,they don't care enough to reply actively to their loyal audience 😢.i have stopped commenting now ☹️
We do see in "Falcon and the Winter Soldier" at one point where Sebastian Stan wakes up from his apartment floor shirtless.
And Mackie was shirtless when Sharon gave him a change of clothes in her Madripoor apartment!!
We have seen him shirtless in CATWS.
He’s shirtless in cap 2 also when they’re brain washing him
we also see bucky shirtless in captain america 2
When Bucky was being brainwashed, he didn't have a shirt on
Not just then, in "Falcon and the Winter Soldier" at one point we see him waking up from his apartment floor shirtless.
@@vinodkumarakula6807 Oh, yeah.
Falcon is shirtless in sharon's apartment in episode 3. Even paul rudd had a shirtless scene in the first antman. To be fair, dc has been doing the same thing with the dceu
@@metallicnole4514 yeah but DC hasn’t been doing much well to begin with
We've seen Steve Rogers, Thor, Tony, Bruce, Dr. Strange, Sam (TFATWS), Bucky (also TFATWS), T'Challa, Spiderman, Antman, and now Loki shirtless. Pretty sure they'll have Hawkeye be shirtless in his show once too.
Dont forget both Edward Norton and Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner.
Hawkeye was shirtless when he had the skin graft in Ultron Movie.
Bucky was also shirtless in CA:WS, brainwashing scene. Maybe in the first CA too? When Steve finds him? I'm not sure.
now we also have shang-chi shirtless
And Star-Lord in the first Guardians of the Galaxy.
6:59 Apparently Marvel confirmed the theory that the reason Loki was such a big villain in Avengers (i.e. killing innocent ppl and enjoying it), is that the Mind Stone was influencing him and fueling his hatred.
12:47 Achara's theory of extra step.... Maaannn her intelligence impress me again.
Loki really did have a lot of talking.
Well mobius did say loki loves to talk so atleast they acknowledged it 😂
But it's worthwhile.
Well there’s three types of things a story can do: talking, fighting, or showing. None of them are inherently bad, though, many works of fiction are almost exclusively talking.
The movie Seven was an inspiration for the loki series and it was very dialogue heavy. People compare the last episode of loki to the engineer scene in matrix, but I think it's more similar to the climax of seven. Both are exposition dumps with a lot of dialogue. But there's a charismatic performance by the villain that ends in a moral quandary over killing the villain.
Tal tal tal talking....
Boring😑
Sylvie realised that Renslayer was lying abt the void spacecraft was because when sylvie asked miss minutes to get the files abt this spacecraft she didnt give it to her.
Yeah, also if you remember, Renslayer started explaining about the pruning but later it was Miss Minutes who interrupts and says about the void spacecraft and Renslayer in a weird tone says Yes, which Sylvie caught on to.
What’s scary is that every hero he named actually was shirtless in their respective movie or show. I looked back at the fantastic four and yeah. Even every member has either been naked or shirtless. Holy crap.
Loki did have telekinesis. He used it in the dark world in the scene where he realized his mom died
Loki already had that power and we seen its glimpse of it in phase 3
Loki shown his telekinesis while he was imprisoned in Thor TDW too.
Glimpse
Wasn’t it confirmed a while back that Loki was under the influence of the Scepter in Avengers which is why he was more unhinged and evil in his actions in that movie and that movie alone.
Yeah, I dont think Ryan rewatched the Avengers before writing this.
Not any more than in Thor. A lot of Asgardians died because of him, he tried to have Thor and his friends killed and he also tried to commit genocide. He was also pretty evil in Thor 2. It was only after that that he became more neutral and now he is basically a good guy.
So what about his actions in Thor
so what, that doesn't mean anything, it just retconing the avengers to make loki not a bad person when he actually was
@@Mushfiqur25 They never mentioned that Loki was more evil because of the Scepter in the Avengers 😭
Even then that doesn't explain why he's still evil in Thor 😭
No achara eric vos had never said that, your take on it is amazing 😍
For people who enjoy a well-constructed plot and character development, Phase Four has been impossible to enjoy--I think Ryan George falls into that camp.
For people who enjoy nitpicking and going into shows with a negative attitude, Phase Four is impossible to enjoy
@@harold3165 For some people it is incomprehensible that there are things other people do not enjoy.
@@wifparanoid It is what it is I guess.
@@harold3165 for people who like low effort cash grabs it is easy to enjoy
@@harold3165 they literaly break space and time, and also destroy charackters left and right, but yeah call it nitpicking you might feel better that way
to answer Jaby and Achara's musings....The Men of Marvel shirtless scenes:
Iron man: when Pepper replaces his arc reactor for him.
Bucky: waking up in falcon and winter soldier
Falcon: Changing at Sharon's place
Captain America... obviously
Thor: Fat in endgame also in Thor 1
Loki: Tva scene
T'challa: fighting Killmonger
Starlord: Changing shirts
spiderman: Taking off suit in his room with Ned
Dr Strange: Chest exposed on the operating table
Hawkeye: After he gets injured in Age of Ultron
Banner: After changing back from the Hulk (anytime)
Antman: Nursing injury after fighting Hope
Vision: At the moment of birth
Quicksilver : changing shirts
Drax : All time (sensitive nipples)
Shang chi : in tournament scene (from trailer)
Loki definitely got a power buff in this series, but it's not the first time we've seen him use those powers tbh - he used telekinesis in Thor: The Dark World after learning of Frigga's death, & he looked in Valkyrie's mind in Thor: Ragnorak to see Hela killing her sisters/ the other Valkyries.
Yeah, but the problem is not so much that he has become more powerful, but that he never uses these new powers except when the plot wants him to.
He can use his telekinesis to lift a crumbling building but doesn't use it during any of the later fights ? Why ?
Telekenisis power, we can see a little of that on Thors 2, and then Later He revive memories in Valkyries mind in Thor Ragnarok, so the powers were there just not exploid.
I was waiting for this reaction. Sylvie may have driven the plot, but loki gets all the character development. Also, the video alone did rush loki's character development, though it did have an impact on him. He was faced with hard hitting existential questions/revelations provided by mobius as well as his interactions with sylvie that developed him as a character.
Loki did absolutely nothing in his own show, he followed Sylvie around talking about how amazing she is while he gets hurt and humiliated for comedy and loses every encounter he gets into
Omg your shirt is awesome, Jaby!
I don't think that Ryan disliked Loki. It's just that pointing the plot holes is kinda his job.
Also I was thinking now and I don't think the fact that loki being punished when the avengers weren't is a plot hole since Kang/He who remains has said he paved the way for Loki. So we can assume the time travels in endgame suppose to happend and Loki also was suppose to get caught by the tva so he would be at the end of time with sylvie.
If the show didn't shifted from Loki to some random female loki, it would have been great show.
and at that time we didn't see any of it but currently as every marvel show movies , this is the common thing.
using our favourites for advt and promotion and then shift them sideways not even give them proper role .
In iron man1 RDJ was shirtless when pepper was connecting the arc reactor in his ches.
7:54 Loki, brother of Thor, who is 1500 years old, and he's discovering some new powers now... ok... "sure"
Well in Thor Ragnarok, Thor gets to know that he doesn't need his hammer to fight, so why not
2:02 rdj naked in first iron man tom holland in far from home and black panther when he was put on ice
Can we just appreciate the genius of Ryan's, Owen Wilsons Wow!!! # priceless
tbh, my problem with the powers was that in the comics/mythology the character could always do that, it's just that the writers never bothered to explore it in the movies before and it feels like they are just giving him all these abilities out of nowhere
It's almost feels as if they just expect everyone to be familiar with the lore of Loki
Yeah the telekinetic thing was done in a Thor the dark world, when he was pissed about Freya's death. He could go in people mind in thor Ragnarok he did to Valkiry. He could've done that before but it wasn't in the focus
Achara smiles like a baby. So cute 🤗
Here for Achara🙆
In terms of mcu characters who have to b shirtless:
Iron Man: yes
Ant Man: yes
Every one of the Chris's: yes
Tom Holland: Yes
Dr Strange: Yes
Even Edward Norton in his Hulk Movie and Mark Ruffalo in the Avengers Movie both have a shirtless Bruce Banner scene. If Hawkeye doesn't have one yet, we definitely going to get one in his series. I'm pretty sure they write it into the contract now lol.
2:33 - I absolutely adore Achara's laugh!
If matter is not removed from the timeline, it still creates a split. That is what would cause a butterfly effect. This is perfectly valid
No. Just use a reset charge and everything returns where its supposed to be.
If anything, removing matter should cause the split to spread further.
Raveena told her about the pruning but Miss Minutes came up with the time machine thing... so it might have been the source of the information and the time it took to find the file that clued Sylvie in that it was a lie.
Also, Sylvie alone couldn't have enchanted the smoke monster. She and Loki together managed because they are much stronger together (nexus being?) and even then it took a third Loki for a massive diversion. So even if people with similar powers ever got there, they needed more people to succeed... but normal people usually die before they manage to make some serious plans. Only Lokis tend to make it long enough because they are survivors (and Lokis don't work together so they are doomed).
Loki only ever was a pure villain in one movie, the 1st Avengers. That's it. And loved the talky finale, I needed those answers, it was more meaningful and satisfying than any giant fight sequence could have ever been.
Yea and it was confirmed that the reason he appears more evil is because the sceptor actually controlled loki to some degree, this was confimed way before the show. So yea it makes sense, I just think jaby probably hasn't heard about that clarification.
What about Thor?
@@ariyansingh4311 That is so dumb...he was evil in Thor before he got the sceptor, and he clearly enjoyed being evil even after he lost it.
and that "pure villain" was because he was affected by the mind stone that is the thing about loki he is just a mislead person with a really big ego.
@@Сайтамен not a pure evil who'd kill just about anyone. He was jealous of Thor and wanted to destroy the frost giants cause he hated the fact that he was one of them. The destroyer just sent Thor flying, it didn't really try to kill him after Thor pleaded with Loki.
Mobius: "We can't prune Loki! I need him to catch the variant!"
Mobius on Loki's first mission: *refuses to listen to him and does his own thing*
Love this bit 2:16
Hey Jabs,I read somewhere that it was supposed to be a 12 ep webseries but was divided into 2 seasons due to COVID.
Actually even though character dev was slightly rushed nit wasnt that much...the first 2 episodes were basically dedicated to show Lokis motives and vulnerabilities and stuff...it was actually quite well done!
Loki has a lot of cool powers in the comics but the issue here with this series is that it is very inconsistent and hardly happens. Not to mention they are a character that's lived for years and are powerful so why wouldn't they know any of this stuff? And, Loki is definitely not the main character in the way that if you replaced him with any character, the story and the plot still holds since neither their history nor powers make any difference to the plotline.
Totally agree... this trash show has 8.5 rating in imdb
Yes we did see the human torch almost naked after he caught fire on the ski slope. I didn't mind that Sylvie was featured so prominently in the series.
01:56 The desert scene after he escapes from the terrorists in the first movie. He was using his shirt in his head as a turbant. It was not sexy per si, but he was shirtless anyway.
It just felt like they wanted us to believe this is was the same Loki as the one from infinity war and that was the purpose of the video. He watched all these life events so he essentially “lived” through them
Wasn’t Loki only the villain in The Avengers because the power from the teseract was messing with his mind?
I did find the finale really too expository and underwhelming. The most surprising part of it was Miss Minutes. But that does play into the simple mistake of announcing the point of the phase before seeing it play out.
I just wish Loki had more impact in the end. However, I do realize that probably stems from Tom Hiddleston’s humility. And I am sure Loki and Mobius will have a good storyline in season 2.
heyyy! i see your Friends T-shirts, i love that episode "UNAGI". Lgendary!🤣🤣🤣
Love the Ross "Unagi" shirt I want that shirt!
Falling in love with another version of yourself is narcissism at its finest
2:30 I KNEW THAT WOW LIKE OWEN WAS COMING LMFAOOO IM CRYING😭😭
The video flashbacks with great cinematography gives me Search for Spock vibes.
Loki is a chaotic character, changing his mind is kind of his thing
The extra step exists because law of conservation of mass that's a real physical law you can't destroy mass like that, even if you disintegrate the particles remain and so does the branch, therefore you have to shift it, the fact that everyone jumped immediately jumped to yeah that's just the show being a show just goes to show how easily we take a chance to dump on something, I know someone is going to say not everyone can know science on their finger tips, well 1 ravonna literally mentioned this law she said we can't destroy all the matter, so the reason there is an extra step is becuase that's they can't do it without that and 2 the show isn't responsible for our lack of scientific knowledge either especially when it's one of the most basic laws of science, so basic that it's taught in primary school and literally mentioned at every turn and corner, and I actually that the timelines are being shifted instead of cut off which really goes to show that tva is an unnatural external force and not like some really supreme righteous organization. Kinda like a real world dictatorship would be.(void=concentration camps) I'll leave it there
Then why tf are they called reset charges If they dont reset sh*t?
Or If they do reset stuff, then removing mass from the timeline just prevents it from being reset back to the way of the sacred timeline.
In the Avengers, Loki was being influenced by the mind gem in the scepter from Thanos making him more villainous
Revisiting it after season two now we know the reason why the timeline branched when they held hands is because they were always meant to get away so once they genuinely accepted their fates of dying it drastically threw off the plan, which made them findable
So He Who Remains must have helped them with it because That's stupid
Lol, I bet no one noticed Jaby cut achara 's point of view on crocodile in the end of the video 😂😂
Badhiya Video
It completely turned into the Sylvie show with Loki as a side character in his own show. Much like they did with Hawkeye
7:00 Or give him kinda the Mandela Effect treatment, absorb the memories of post first Avengers main time Loki including his death with Thanos or make him watch ALL the MCU movies after the first Avenger movie in order off screen, including all his future character development scenes we haven't seen until his death with Thanos. Problem Solved.
It's been confirmed that Loki was so much more evil in Avengers because the scepter was affecting him big-time. Even in Thor before he really ever started changing he was mainly just a trickster that wanted the attention of his dad and to be loved.
That would make sense to be honest. Because when Mobius was showing Loki what he has done, he did look uncomfortable watching himself commit "some" of these malicious acts.
To be honest I don't really like that explanation. I think it would have made more sense that when thanos finds loki at the end of the first thor movie, loki is in a much more vulnerable mental state, havng been rejected by odin. This would have allowed thanos to manipulate loki into setting off the events of the first avengers movie.
@@metallicnole4514 why not be a bit of both? Thanos could manipulate his broken state of mind, and then the scepter could come in and influence him and make him feel not so broken?
He wanted to eradicate an entire race of beings (Jotunheim) in Thor 1 so I don't think mischievous is quite correct. He was always willing to do horrible things to accomplish his goals, understandable though his motivations were, so the contrast between the movies and the show is still stark (pardon the pun).
So a thing that was odd that everyone made about Sylvia and Loki’s love was that they might have confused it with genetic laws. Even the show got it wrong. The thing is that Loki and Sylvia are quite different. Not just personality wise but also genetics. For example, if you made a clone of yourself and fell in love that would be weird Bc the clone had your exact DNA making you related. But Sylvia and Loki don’t have the same DNA. They’re spliced versions of different outcomes, situations, genes, and personalities. Bc of all those factors they aren’t the same person. They can just go by the same name. Bc if we go by the shows logic and what everyone complained about, that means Gator Loki is related to Variant Loki. Which he isn’t.
They still came from the same parents So I dont think this argument fully saves this💀
Wow, you got a Unagi Ross tee, cool!
We never saw Tony Stark shirtless, only his biceps when wearing a tank top
Jaby, here's a list of everyone who has appeared shirtless...or well people I can recollect at the moment
Robert Downey Jr.
Chris Hemsworth
(Now) Tom Hiddleston
Chris Evans
Mark Ruffalo
Paul Rudd
Chris Pratt
Chadwick Boseman
Anthony Mackie
Sebastian Stan
Tom Holland
Benedict Cumberbatch
Edward Norton
(Raccooned) Bradley Cooper
Dave Bautista
So almost every single male character in the MCU with a leading role
Rocket 😂😂 also Vision
You: “Have we seen the one character whose entire set of powers stems from him installing a magnet in his chest with a miniature fusion reactor to power it, with his shirt off???”
Rhodey: “…so, he’s an idiot???
Renslayer said where she's going. "Only the leader has freewill and she's looking for freewill."
In the cage where loki was captured in avengers,he used his telekinetic powers to move things around.....he has the power
What truly changed Loky was his mother's death, THAT was his turning point. He really cared for Frigga. So, whe he sees her death bc of him that(even if a little rushed) is what really makes a difference in him
He definitely found a lot of holes 🤣🤣🤣
That's what achara said🤭
You s.o.b I gotta rewatch Mr. Nice guy now
When Ryan said "He watched a video"
I feel that is over simplification for comedy. Because it was not just any video, it was Loki's whole life.
And when someone sees his mistakes, consequences, etc. And how his life is totally different from what he expected, it will surely change them quite a bit.
The episode's name "Glorious Purpose" fits perfectly.
I could imagine this show with Deadpool as the main character
Wow wow wow weew!! 🤣🤣👍🏽 still got it
But they pruned so many people but why there were only lokis at the end if time place.
Achara is awesome. And Ryan George is hilarious.
The show actually does explain that pruning sends things to the Void because of conservation-of-mass limitations. And they don't just shoot people because then they'd still need to get rid of the variants' remains somehow in order for the timeline to heal itself.
Why not stab them? or teleport them to a volcano? how does that that not work when a cloud eating them does?
The older an Asgardia gets, the more and more powerful they become. So either of them continuing to discover new powers inside themselves as they continued to evolve and age isn't so nuts or "convenient." In the comic series, The Infinity Guauntlet, there is a fight scene where the characters are all trying to take on Thanos and Thanos uses the Time Gem to age all those facing him. When he does it to Thor, as he ages him thousands of years more than he already is, Thor just got stronger and stronger. That is another reason why Odin was so powerful--I hope everyone noticed that Thanos had to wait for Odin to die before he went to war to gain the gems. Anytime Thanos went up against Odin in the comics, Odin handed his ass to him.
The reason for pruning and not killing is that...u r forgetting that whole realities can be pruned not juts individuals...and they explained that matter from these realities cany just be destroyed like that with minimal energy (which is a physics principle loosely speaking)...hence Alioth...the creature who feasts on matter and energy
I didn’t find the “he watched a movie” character change to be offensive. I thought it was a good way to get from the Loki from Avengers to the one we knew later.
Good way? They changed the personality of a 5000 years old been by showing him a video
@@pamoweiberezi5315 Tom Hiddleston's Loki? The character that they have been setting up for 10 years. The character who played this scene in Avengers? th-cam.com/video/f7cjpeRuNQc/w-d-xo.html? That is a character that may be evil, but has the capacity for good. To me it makes sense that seeing the potential for good he found on the prime timeline could change his life. Not that he's completely and totally changed, but that he can be better. I thought it was really cool.
@@HitcherWitcher11 may be evil? He killed 80 people in 3 days and orchestrated a planetary takeover that resulted in a genocide.
They basically retconned his character
@@pamoweiberezi5315 that’s a fair way to see it. I see it differently and think they laid seeds for that change from the start.
@@pamoweiberezi5315 well he had severe inferiority complex issues, like he told he always felt lesser and weaker than thor so he killed people and did bad things pretending to like it.
And it was broken when he got to know he got killed his mother cuz of this and that his dad and brother loved him.... So yeah it's a strong point to change his character
Loki admitted that his actions are an illusion to make people afraid of him, that he doesn't like hurting people.
You see there can only ever be allowed a single timeline. Any branches from the one single allowable timeline must be clipped, which is how a 10 year old girl version of Loki can make a right or wrong decision or a crocodile version of Loki can eat the wrong cat. Because apparently things that aren't supposed to exist to begin with can make correct choices decades or even epochs into their forbidden existence.
That extra step is because you don't want to deal with bodies and stuff so it is easy to just send them somewhere like we do with our trash.
they erase entire timelines but they cant erase people?
But shouldn't the time branches be before "infinity war" cause loke was taken in the first Avenger movies??
The finale for wandavision and Loki sync up actually. When he who remains says they crossed the threshold, Wanda gave in to her darker powers against agnes. So after endgame. Remember time passes differently in the tva.
9:33 well she fell from sky .....mobius would have seen that
Imagine the uproar if the robot undressed some woman against her will instead
Is that Ross Geller on jaby's t-shirt
U have to react to furious 7 pitch meeting..... Ryan absolutely destroyed that movie....
RDJ was shirtless to remove the arc reactor at the end of iron man 3
5:03 I didn't feel like Sylvie took over the show, either.
7:20 And... Loki was under the influence of the Mind-Stone in the first Avengers movie. Hulk probably knocked that manipulated brain stuff right out of him, "Puny god."
No he wasn’t. Loki was the one using the mind stone on others. Are we making our own fan fiction MCU now? Cause if we are, that is TIGHT!
@@rohanmondkar9467 And it also manipulates the Avengers just by their being in proximity to it. There was a whole scene about that. Remember? Loki was with it for much longer. Figuring this out was super easy. Barely an inconvenience
@@1monkidamm. So the mind Stone turned the genocidal maniac into a conceuring maniac
4.54 the show is called LOKI and sylvie is a loki varient soo
Where’s she going? Into season two presumably 😂😂😂😂
Guys because it was what was supposed to happen by He Who Remains
11:46 doctor strange 2 was supposed to come before loki previoisly though.....
Jaby react to Pro Tips by Pitch Meetings as well from Screen Rant... Those are bonkers as well!!
Hitting the like button before watching the video is tight !!!
Loved your reaction, as always!!
Try to throw the old 'Home, by Davis' in one of the videos. Really miss those songs in your intros
It's the "Unagi" shirt on Jaby for me
Just to be clear Tony whenever he's fiddling with the arc reactor Evans transformation
Hemsworth Ragnarok and Thor 1 Renner then boseman in the water fight and waking up scene Tom scene with ned in homecoming and mj in ffh yeah pretty much
Yay!
Loki's time branches is not the multiverse. It is separate from the multiverse concept of Doctor Strange.
The reason Loki is mor sympathetic here then he was in The Avengers was because in the Avengers he was controlled and corrupted by the Mind Stone according to the Russos.
too bad that was never indicated in the movies in any way
This was a good show it just suffered frim being made during Covid which caused some changes in the finished product
The problems with his new powers are
1: The come completely out of know where and he doesn’t even seem surprised
2: He never developed any of the powers through his phase 2 and 3 years.