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- Comparing the VRAM settings (3, 4 and 8GB) in Gaming for the Lenovo LEGION GO. (Day 1 BIOS)
00:00 Introduction and Setup
01:18 Gaming Benchmarks
06:27 Gaming Benchmarks at 1600p
08:30 Conclusion
Does allocated VRAM size matter for integrated GPUs (APUs)?
• Does allocated VRAM si...
The Legion GO was plugged in with the 30W Mode all the time.
I was using the DAY 1 BIOS. - เกม
I wish it came with 32 gb of ram and dedicate up to 16 gb to vram. I feel like that would be great for all the current gen handhelds
yep, 32gb would be great. unless you 're using eGPU but then you're not portable
Totally agree, since textures usually don't impact performance that much. I don't mind "unrealistic" shadows but I do mind when the game textures are a blocky mess.
That's next year's handhelds.
The very reason I pre-ordered an ayaneo Kun with 32gb ram and didn't get the Steam Deck, Ally or Go. Hopefully the mainstream handheld manufacturers will make 32gb standard as it seems like there are more AAA games being released that have heavier memory requirements.
@@mosthated8848 Thats why. So they can sell us 2 Items within a short period of time. ;)
Just started catching your videos. Very nice job! Keep these Legion Go videos coming.
2 more at least. One next week hopefully!
Thanks for doing this! You saved me a bunch of time.
Very interesting, surprising even. Thanks for uploading your results.
This video helps users to fing best vram setting for a specific game .thaks alot .
Great content, thank you.
Interesting video, thank you for sharing.
This is great video !
Great info, thanks bud
Thanks for this video❤
My pleasure 😊
In newer games if you play below 1080 which is recommended 6 gigs is perfect in most games but some games won’t cache shaders under 8gb vram like Hogwarts legacy which is a huge bummer
HWL didn't even cache the shader with the 8gb setting...
@@Hubwood When you set VRAM=Auto in Rog Ally, "Hogwarts legacy" caches the shaders. Legion Go is a new device. More VRAM options will probably come. So I hope it will be better.
I believe HWL won't cache shaders with this device due to the amount of physical memory left, after the GPU takes a chunk :( the game hugely benefits even at low settings from having 32GB physical RAM unfortunately never mind whether the GPU in the Go is up to the task or not.
Cant wait for mine to come in, and, for the holoiso or chimeraos to be fully setup.
Thank you for the video! Can you please try the same with full HD?
I just placed mine on 4 GB and is been playing fine at least for the game that I’m throwing in
I use 6gb and it’s working pretty well
Have you redone this test since 6G has become an option? Would love to know if it’s better to run 4G or 6G
Excellent video 😀👍 I would like to know if you have been able to play games like Manhut 1&2 or The Suffering 1&2 or Peter Jacksons King Kong on this wonderful Lenovo Legion Go...??? Greetings.
Yes you can play them all! Easy
I can’t seem to run assto on mine it loads in but doesn’t start the race any idea how it can work ?
asingen 6gb of vr. In the new bios update, and in Windows system settings, they assign more virtual memory for the system. This way the games will run better.
set 8gb vram from 16gb ram and left 8gb for win11, is that really fine?
So the best overall setting would be 4gb instead of going all out with 8gb
Great video but most of these games are going to plateau especially the more graphically demanding ones because the gpu utilization is going to bottleneck the performance of the ram
This is true after hours and hours of trying to find the best graphic setting to play cod wm3 on this device while dock on a 50-inch tv FSR mode makes most games nonplayable and actually better off. I've owned a legion since the second month it came out and it plays pretty much everything flawlessly but yea, I agree 32gb of ram and a 2 to 4 tb ssid would make this thing beast. Once my warranty runs out, I will do the 32gb upgrade and yes, I recommend the Legion go great device.
I have done 6GB, and on ASUS rog ally, I keep getting messages on Forza game that have enough memory for the game.
Can legion go play inzoi smooth later in the future? I doubt about it..sigh :(((
For a game like Baldur's Gate, what about if you use the Razer Cortex app to put apps and functions to sleep in the background? Would that free up enough memory for it to run better?
That stuff consumes so much memory its function of closing down other apps to free up memory is pointless.
What I'd recommend is running a modded debloated Windows ISO with many windows processes stripped out, it frees up 1.5-2gb of memory typically, and if you're only using it for gaming it won't really cause any issues.
I'm currently working on a windows HandheldOS, it's in beta right now but there are ones made for desktops/laptops that will work
@@Hybredyeah we need exclusive windows for handheld
@Hybred for what... you can just use tiny 11. It's windows stripped down for gaming. You can even customize it😮
@@myrontaylor77 Yes but there's better ones than Tiny11. Tiny11 doesn't do enough
The current Bios / Uefi now has a 6 gigabyte option. Lenovo has promised an auto option as well in the upcoming BIOS version.
The autooption is there but it sucks for emulators and other stuff.
There's a new bios with 6Gb option, it will probably be the sweet spot.
I talk about this in the VERY beginning of the video and later mention that I don't think it will change alot UNLESS the BIOS itself is providing better performane overall ;)
@@Hubwood 😭Ain't no way, the screenshot appeared in the first 10s, and you verbally mention it in 15s LOL
I think its time to do more TH-cam Shorts
😂
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@@Hubwood i watched the video on mute sorry, and was listening to music.
@@whitezzpt 😂
Thanks for the video. But i think you should run benchmarks at 900p at which resolution most gamers would choose over native resolution... just a thought.
720p isn’t native
24gb minimum which gives 8gb for vram and 16gb for system
Can you make it for Asus Ally?
I just set the VRAM in bios to auto and let the system use how much it needs.
I have a legion go that i am going to be upgrading the ram to 32gb. Not that it will make a whole heck of a lot of difference on the performance aspect of things. But could be fun being able to use all 8gb of vram and still have enough for windows to use.
will make a difference in quite some games actually.
Best setting Legion go 4gb?
Do this again with the new 6gb vram update. I think that's the best of them all
Is this an official update or did you use the beta bios people have been sharing? Just updated my bios through Lenovo and still no 6 gig.
its a beta bios right now. im gonna wait for a final build.@@paulmorales4786
@@paulmorales4786 Only available in said BETA BIOS.
I would probably use 6GB aswell, but I don't think it would make a difference.
And at the same time, I'm a bit afraid that 10GB Left for WIndows and the game can still be an issue. Will have to try to that for BG3.
It's now available officially, non-Beta, on the Lenovo drivers page for the Go.
Edit: Turns out there is a new official BIOS, but it isn't the beta BIOS and still lacks the 6GB option, I checked it myself. Bummer.
in the flight simulator i want to know with wich graphics you try , high quality or ultra?
Medium at 720p
So, at minim it seems as though 20gigs of VRAM would be the best middle of the road amount to ensure most games are able to hit that 60fps mark
best it's 5gb on this 16gb , for ally seems to be the sweet spot
so basically 4gb vram is the way to go?
I hope this is what nintendo switch 2 gonna be
I have a feeling steam will release a solid handheld next . The deck is too weak. And they need to consider going full 32gb ram. I hope asus which I prefer goes with hall effect sticks. 32gb ram, and they need to not worry about battery at all
Sell an accessory they allows us to play for a longer time because NO WAY you're getting better battery than 2 hours tops.. it's too much to even worry about so give us something and make it portable enough but this handled isn't like a switch its gonna be plugged in bedside or u get 2 hours playtime max when playing a heavy demanding game like star field
This aged like milk.
@@Tiralful how? They drop an oled steam deck. Not their next handled
Next gen handheld console should have at least 24GB of ram.
I just play FF15demo with everything at low and reduced windows UI ram usage.. and the ram usage reaches 99%-even while steam big picture and legeion space are turned off.
So sad that 12GB ram is not enough
There probably will be a 32gb option, but that will be next years refresh, 12 months from now with 8xxx series Apu's, released just in time for Xmas again.
None of these handhelds need 32gb of Ram and NO. There won’t be a 32gb option since it would skyrocket the price OVER the 1k range.
@@powerhouse884 The price difference between 16 or 32GB is at worst 80 Euro. Its the profits that manufactures and stores go after that makes those differences seem higher. 32GB makes a BIG difference on iGPUs as a lot of games can push past 16GB (system + game data + "vram") resulting in serious 1% issues and lower avg framerate. A 699 handheld needs to be 799 max with 32GB. Not 699 to 999 or some other margin maximizing!
@@powerhouse884no it wont. 16gb of extra ram will cost manufacturers 15 - $20
Addional 16gb shouldn't raise the production cost more than 50 bucks...
going from a maximum capacity of 16 to 32 in a handheld would include much more than just the cost of adding a different ram stick@@Hubwood
30W? Over here at 33 watt OC on deck lolz
So the future of these devices could be with 24GB or 32GB.. no wonder Valve keep to the same SOC with slightly faster RAM.
The more of these devices I see the more I really appreciate Steams approach, while no where near perfect, as a person that doesn't mind tinkering around to get the performance I want, I dont want to pay for extra bells and whistles when I can save almost $400 by staying with my Steam deck, that being said Idk if I would buy a Steam deck vs these If I own non, I think all of these have a place though, Steam OS will eventually run better on these too, Maybe then Id upgrade but I love seeing these regardless if Im buying one or not
SD2 will be a killer! Bigger screen, more powerful. 720p is completely fine on a handheld.
@@latem1400 yea I think they hype ppl up with magnificent screens only to not be able to run newer games natively, the SD is a fine balance balance to me until they do refine these devices how Nintendo or even Sony does theirs
by my calculations bazzite steam os at 8gbVram should be the best performance because it uses less system ram
Can't please anyone anymore. Always want more of this and that with specs. Why can't you just appreciate what these companies make for us?
too many deck fanbois.. always complaining about other handheld using windows and yet they dual boot windows on their deck to play games they can’t on steamos. the hypocrisy is real. if they like steamos so much, they should just play only games that are playable on steamos yeah? 😂
You can actually upgrade the memory to 32GB. it's the same exact process as for the ROG Ally or Steam Deck. Even the BIOS editing and flashing is the same as the ROG Ally. It can be done.
Is the ram upgradable?
@@wiraNakamurano unfortunately, you need to pay someone to change the ram and its a hard work (300$). Also, you cant after that upgrade ur bios otherwise it will change the code to detect the 32gb of ram.
Also alloting the vram does make a huge difference because it sets it aside for games directly so it’s not having to swap on the fly from ram to vram in game so idk who told you alloting it wouldn’t make a difference but they obviously don’t know how I gpus work
Some BIOSes don't actually "allocate" the VRAM. For example my sister's acer laptop doesn't "allocate" RAM properly (still in dynamic mode), but my GF's lenovo laptop does properly allocate the VRAM.
Yep. Thats why i bought the OneXplayer 2 Pro instead
can you make a video about it??
Every country different version? My country available 16gb only
This is the 16gb version. This video is about how changing the size for the pre allocated VRAM affects gaming.
FXaudio will make your speakers so much better! please like this so people know
Software won't fix cheap shotty hardware 😂 they cut corners in all the wrong places 💯 the go is garbage
@@charlierose1708 just say you don't have one 🤣🤣
@charlierose1708 yeah my rog ally speakers are trash without dolby atmos
Bro can i5 12 gen rtx 4050 45W 16 gn ram do things like 3d rendering graphic designing blender testing smoothly
Yes you can!
So overall 4 over 8 or what do you think
I'd go with 4. Maybe 6 once that's available.
I thought you were gonna show us the new 6 gig option
That wasn't available when I made this video, also as you can see, right now there is no real difference between 4 and 8gb on the legion go. So 6 won't make a big difference either. Might still discover some games where it matters. The first example even shows how higher pre allocated ram can harm the experience...
the right thing was to have 32 GB RAM options to sell
So leave it at 4gb?
Yeah. Maybe try the 6GB when it's available.
24GB RAM would be the sweet spot for 16+8GB VRAM in BIOS. 32GB would be overkill.
There is no overkill 😬
And: 24 would be problematic in terms of the hardware configuration. Wouldn't make much sense to me to install an 8gb and a 16gb stick 😅
(I know ddr5 handles dual channel mode differently, but still 😜)
@@Hubwood On a PC you'd be right but in a handheld like this the RAM chips are made into the bus. So long as the ram number is cleanly divisible by 2 or 4 they should be perfectly fine out side of extra heat and power draw.
no that's not a 8 and 16 stick. 12GB sticks exist@@Hubwood
Why is the gpu utilization so low in your tests? No way the gpu is being bottlenecked unless the legion isn’t supplying enough power to the cpu.
If he's plugged in during these tests you actually get worse performance no matter the profile you choose is. For some reason unplugged gets better performance. The thing is kind of a pos.
You can allocate more power to the cpu or gpu if you go into windows advance power management settings
Majority of the time on the default,windows caps it at 50% of power
all the juice going to the CPU, Im sure theres some setting but Idk
So I shouldn't play set this to 8gigs of vram?
I would go for 4 (or6 once abailable)
Depends on how you play. The higher the resolution and graphic/texture settings, the more vram you need.
@@Hubwood thank you, I will change mine back to 4gigs.
Maybe the faster ram on the GO makes the 3 and 4gb options more feasible?
Нет. Windows по умолчанию выделяет 50% от RAM встроенной графике.
При 16 гб ram и 4гб выдпленной в биосе видеопамяти. Будет общей видеопамяти в
16-4 = 12гб
12/2=6.
6+4= 10Gb vram
В данном случае встроенная графика имеет 10GB VRAM, а не 4 gb vram
Are those games from steam?
Some yes, some not.
At least you're happy to show games at 720p. Too many folks get carried away with visuals and max settings and expect these machines to hit 60 plus FPS..
You're in a dream world. If dropping to 720 medium means 60fps then so be it. This is not a 4090 pc. It's a 30-50 watt handheld... You will never get 1600p and 60fps even at medium unless it's a 2D or simple indie game.
Be realistic and keep expectations in check.
Yep that's so true if you spend the time to get Adrenaline running you can have your cake and eat it to with ESR Frame Gen and Integer scaling it works really well in the games I play it's especially helpful with ghost of tsushimsa I probably need it to run 6Gb for that one and finally debloat the os finally just need to find a reliable debloater to run on it
Why they don’t have these consoles locked in out the box with the best performance settings possible
Because they would be an insane amount of work, and it wouldn’t even stay valid with updates and such.
@@Tiralful steam does it
What about 1080p ??? I guess that would be the usual standard !
Why would you do 1080p on a 16:10 screen.
They have different screens. They don't share the same resolutions...
so this is the evidence that I was right to never touch anything in the BIOS. I will leave my Legion Go at 3 GB as it was shipped. This whole tweaking is just for benchmarks, nothing more.
I couldn’t even get Fortnite to run until I changed the 3gb option
No you really should change it to 4gb. The 3gb option can cause issues.
32GB VRAM but also at 8500mhz on LPDDR5X would be great.
Gen 2 (personal) wannabe list
- OLED screen
- Next gen chip from AMD
- 32gb ram option
- vrr
- magnetic keyboard/trackpad case
- Steam-level software
- Better joystick (I keep press the back buttons while playing and don't like the unmatched - vertical on one side and horizontal on the other)
- Docking station with external graphics (similar to rog xg mobile)
- Slim case
- Collabration cases with y700 (Nintendo ds like form factor)
- official pen support (4098 level)
(two or three of them will suffice)
biggest issue with lenovo legion is it does not have 32 or 64gb ram wich other chinese developers units has.
Why do you need so much ram?
@@kalebgross1310 Windows eat 7 gig and vram eats 5 to 3 gig and games require more and more so yes in todays world minimum on pc is 32gb
@@HikaruGCT at 1080p you don't need more the 8gb, 32gb is gonna be overkill for gaming
you do. just check the messages below here. you need far more than 32gb i currently own a steam deck wich has 16gb ram and im running steam os and i get OUT of memory errors constantly when playing games at 1280x720 pixels especially games such as diablo 4 or gta v or world of tanks or world of warships or many many many other games. 16gb ram DOES not cut it. not by a long shot. minimum today is 32gb and it will rise to 64 gb @@kalebgross1310
that’s why the gpd variants are much more powerful
How long Can one play at highest resolution?
Depends on the game, the settings, if you use an fps cap, display brightness, loudness of the speakers, wifi or not.
Somewhat between 60 and 180 minutes depending on all these factors.
@@Hubwood I can’t believe it lasts an hour in highest settings, what an L why aren’t they making batteries that last 4 hours minimum
@@Dexxxterity that would demand a 160wh battery that would make the device much more expensive and probably add another 500-700g to it.
@@Hubwood can we change it for another battery?
@@Dexxxterity we can't change the battery. No.
Cheat-code: Up the textures to max and everything else to low. You keep the good looks and also the good performance.
RAM AND VRAM IS CHEAP. DON'T LET COMPANIES SCREW US OVER THE MOST CRITICAL AND CHEAPEST COMPONENT
Oh look, I actually made a video about that ;)
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A 24gb RAM model would be great. Should be cheaper than 32 and with 8gb allocated should leave 16gb for the system
4gb is best option for battery life and gaming performance
The size of allocated vram has no impact on battery life
I just set it to auto
🤷♂️
I barely get above 20fps with 4gb on hogwarts legacy and I’m playing on low settings
800p Low?
Using the 30W Custom Mode in the Settings of the LEGION GO?
@@Hubwood 800p, everything set to low, vram at 4gb, updated drivers, 30w custom tdp
I ordered it but the problem isn't the fps but the battery I think will last even less like my ally 😂☝️🇺🇲🇮🇹
It lasts about 20% longer when using the same power modes.
@@Hubwood Let's hope bro because this is a nice car.. I can't wait to get it..
looks like its a bad idea to buy these handhelds.. RAMs being the bottleneck
This isn’t for larger capacity.
This is only recommended in scenarios where the igpu is severely lacking in vram,
Like a 3250u for example with 256mb of Vram.Make that larger and have enough RAM.
I must say youll see most of it probably in the ram upgrade lol scams
No, that's not how that works :)
It actually does have some kind of effect. Especially for the Asus rog ally.
Also the size of igpu ram really can affect the performance by a bit.
Man the software on this thing suuuuucks at the moment.
The Legion Space? Yeah i don't like it either. But they are working on it.
I think they should release this console every 3 years and work on a better OS. No one wants to play on windows lol.
Uhm...I do actually 😅
Just remember, you take 8 gb for VRAM you are only left with 8 gig of RAM
What does that mean
I was going to buy one but thank god for all these reviews.Seems pointless having such a high res screen only to have to use 720p medium settings to get anything decent/recent to even work
The legion go normally plays 800p and the high refresh rate is for battle royale PvP type games like Fortnite.
Because 800p still looks great on this screen 🤦♂️ so no it’s pointless. Hell I’m running Starfield at 1050p on the go and it looks excellent and better than it did on my ally.
You'll just be missing out on all the fun 😋
@Antisocialnerd2 Battle Royale games and such are not what I play. I think the initial thoughts were you'd be able to play triple AAA games and such on it and it had a 1440p,144hz display but the reality is, you can play them...but only in 720p etc on medium settings. Turns out it's actually just a slightly better Steamdeck
this is just lying lower res never looks better and you made up that res aint real@@beastydrummer06
hi guys what do you think about getting GDP win max 2 with 64gb of Ram or Legion Go. Almost same price in my country.
Safe deutscher😂
Das hat dir der Teufel verraten 😱
Its almost as if Lenovo and Asus have no intention of you keeping their systems for a long time.
I have 0 interest in any handheld in 2023/2024 that has 16GB of shared RAM.
16GB is the standard set by the Steam Deck nearly 2 years ago on an 800P screen and far lighter Linux based OS. 16GB for a 2560 X 1600 screen and Windows 11 in 2023/2024 is planned obsolescence.
Well. I won't deny that...
😂 everyone keeps bringing up the screen being higher resolution but it still has to run games at 720p to be playable 😂 720p looks great on a 7in 1080p screen with VRR, 720p on a 1600p 8.8in portrait display with no VRR looks horrible
Not with integer scaling down to 800p
Why not leave the Lego at 8vrarm?? It effects so much the battery?
No. But it leaves you with 8gb system ram only.
Not enough Imho.
@@Hubwood I didn't know that CPU graphics takes the Vram from Rams . I see yeah indeed 8ram is low .
So of LeGo had 32g ram will had a better performance i guess.