I have an old 50's lathe, changed bearings, spindle, feedshafts, and nuts. Its able to do things far better than I am capable of. Thank you for this video.😊
Can't go wrong with refurbished machines; when I was in the market used machines were more expensive than the new Chinese lathes which is why I decided to go that route... My vintage German horizontal works very nicely!
I love you're videos someone realistic not someone who thinks there working for Elon making a space ship, I have been doing some metal working and getting very frustrated but since finding you I now have the proper outlook and am much more relaxed about it and my work is becoming better, thank you and keep them coming
Accuracy can be measured and it’s meaningful. It depends on what you do though. Those of us who have been doing this for a very long time have learned how to work around inaccuracies. If you need to make a high precision shaft on a lathe usually know to do all the operations without removing th part before it’s finished. Then, even if concentricity isn’t great, the part can be perfect. But if the spindle isn’t perfectly in line with the bed, you’ll get a taper. That can be a problem. Sometimes you can loosen the headstock and straighten it, but often it’s on the front way which doesn’t allow it. Then, it’s a problem. If you only make short parts, it may not be. But it will if you make long parts. The point is that sometimes it matters and sometimes it doesn’t. Sometimes you can work around it and sometimes you can’t. I always tell beginners to buy a Chinese (or Taiwanese) lathe from a company with a good reputation rather than buying an old used machine from the USA, Germany, England, etc. The reason is that the old, industrial machines are usually worn out. If you’re new to this, you won’t know when you buy it and won’t be able to fix it.
I started my machining hobby with a cheap Chinese lathe, the real basic version. It works and can make nicely accurate parts as long as you're patient with it and keep checking your progress. It has a lot of weaknesses that I've learned to work around and it takes time to make something worth it. Still, it was within my budget range at the time and taught me a lot about how a lathe works and what you can do even with a crap one. Accuracy is definitely more a feature of the operator than of the machine in this case. My main expectation of a better lathe would be in the efficiency that can be gained from having to do less double checking as you go. Anyway, I'd recommend a cheap lathe to anyone starting out, the second hand market around here has lathes that either require a huge shed that hardly anyone will have space for, are even in a worse state than these Chinese ones, or still cost a fortune.
Thanks for the video, beautiful work by the way, I buy my tools from Adendorff since 2006 and haven't had any problems with them , they are more affordable and work well enough for me. I think Bosch tools are manufactured in China nowadays, says a lot about there good manufacturing abilities. I won't knock them for most home hobby guys , we run our tools on 220 v , maybe that's the difference. 👍
Is your lathe levelled and bolted down? Mine is neither of those things :( I managed to build a working loco with it, but everything has a taper, including the cylinder bores.
@davidtaylor6124 All lathe beds have twist, this needs to be sorted before turning. Otherwise, you'll get tapers. The cylinder and pistons will be the biggest problem. I have an old training video somewhere on the channel that will help you with this.
Just because there made in ASIA doesn't mean there that bad, but people have done upgrades and they do give people a starting level to enter into the machining world on affordability, doing a hobby of some sort. There's also a lot of education here on you tube to learn.
I have an old 50's lathe, changed bearings, spindle, feedshafts, and nuts. Its able to do things far better than I am capable of. Thank you for this video.😊
Can't go wrong with refurbished machines; when I was in the market used machines were more expensive than the new Chinese lathes which is why I decided to go that route... My vintage German horizontal works very nicely!
I love you're videos someone realistic not someone who thinks there working for Elon making a space ship, I have been doing some metal working and getting very frustrated but since finding you I now have the proper outlook and am much more relaxed about it and my work is becoming better, thank you and keep them coming
What a lovely comment, thank you! I'll keep the vids coming!
Accuracy can be measured and it’s meaningful. It depends on what you do though. Those of us who have been doing this for a very long time have learned how to work around inaccuracies. If you need to make a high precision shaft on a lathe usually know to do all the operations without removing th part before it’s finished. Then, even if concentricity isn’t great, the part can be perfect. But if the spindle isn’t perfectly in line with the bed, you’ll get a taper. That can be a problem. Sometimes you can loosen the headstock and straighten it, but often it’s on the front way which doesn’t allow it. Then, it’s a problem. If you only make short parts, it may not be. But it will if you make long parts. The point is that sometimes it matters and sometimes it doesn’t. Sometimes you can work around it and sometimes you can’t. I always tell beginners to buy a Chinese (or Taiwanese) lathe from a company with a good reputation rather than buying an old used machine from the USA, Germany, England, etc. The reason is that the old, industrial machines are usually worn out. If you’re new to this, you won’t know when you buy it and won’t be able to fix it.
I started my machining hobby with a cheap Chinese lathe, the real basic version. It works and can make nicely accurate parts as long as you're patient with it and keep checking your progress. It has a lot of weaknesses that I've learned to work around and it takes time to make something worth it. Still, it was within my budget range at the time and taught me a lot about how a lathe works and what you can do even with a crap one. Accuracy is definitely more a feature of the operator than of the machine in this case. My main expectation of a better lathe would be in the efficiency that can be gained from having to do less double checking as you go. Anyway, I'd recommend a cheap lathe to anyone starting out, the second hand market around here has lathes that either require a huge shed that hardly anyone will have space for, are even in a worse state than these Chinese ones, or still cost a fortune.
I believe you have an ability and skill that works around the shortfalls of the lathe.
Another fine video! Thank you.
Thanks. Enjoyed looking at your locos
enjoyed this, have the same lathe and totally agree with you
Thanks for the video, beautiful work by the way, I buy my tools from Adendorff since 2006 and haven't had any problems with them , they are more affordable and work well enough for me. I think Bosch tools are manufactured in China nowadays, says a lot about there good manufacturing abilities. I won't knock them for most home hobby guys , we run our tools on 220 v , maybe that's the difference. 👍
I love the train, its so beautiful and cute. Also good enough well explained, cheers.
Hi from the Netherlands (ex Pmburg) Thoroughly interesting video. All the best to you
Is your lathe levelled and bolted down? Mine is neither of those things :( I managed to build a working loco with it, but everything has a taper, including the cylinder bores.
@davidtaylor6124 All lathe beds have twist, this needs to be sorted before turning. Otherwise, you'll get tapers. The cylinder and pistons will be the biggest problem. I have an old training video somewhere on the channel that will help you with this.
Just because there made in ASIA doesn't mean there that bad, but people have done upgrades and they do give people a starting level to enter into the machining world on affordability, doing a hobby of some sort. There's also a lot of education here on you tube to learn.
I think the skill of the operator is at least as important
Yep very true, and the setup of the lathe!
Ha! Roodepoort track.. us spies are everywhere 🙂
Accuracy is fantasy. Accuracy is as good as the machine operator.
Repeatability is real. Repeatability is as good as your machine can be.
@@Freetheworldnow I would say machine setup is incredibly important for both...