Fallout's Cut Raiders - The Vipers and The Jackals

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  • Episode 3 of Fallout - The Cutting Room Floor. In today's episode we take a look at Fallout 1's cut raiders, The Vipers and The Jackals. We also look at Shady Sands, Vault 15, Aradesh, Tandi, The Hub, The Kahn's and how these tribes would end up reappearing in both the design documents of Van Buren and Fallout New Vegas.
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  • @greengarnish1711
    @greengarnish1711 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    I like to think the Vipers and Jackals were still there around F1 and F2 but just out of range for the player to interact with. Atleast we got them in FNV although very weak at this point thanks to the NCR and Rangers.
    Still for story sake it makes sense and I'm glad they're back in.

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I'm glad they included them in FNV, even if few players actually knew they were.

    • @benthenerd177
      @benthenerd177 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Before watching this video for some reason I was under the impression that they were in Fallout 1/2 and that the NCR was the reason they were so weak in NV.

    • @colddaze6680
      @colddaze6680 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's a FNV raider mod ,that created lore specific armour and weapons for the Vipers. Bone armour and bone bows and venom poisoned arrows.
      Also clothing ,armour for Jackals were they wear some furs and leather armour and jackal heads as helmets. Like Vulpes wears. Jackals have cannibal perk as a default. As that's their practice,lore.I think you can join either groups in the mod, do side quests for them.

    • @LucyWest370
      @LucyWest370 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@benthenerd177its said in the loading screens the ncr pushed them out

  • @SGTMasterBean
    @SGTMasterBean ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Babe wake up new TriangleCity video just dropped

  • @danielsurvivor1372
    @danielsurvivor1372 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:58 What about Vault City in F2? Wasn't this THE group that left Vault 15 with Geck?

  • @allansmith211
    @allansmith211 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that the mass effect soundtrack I hear in the background? Specifically galaxy map music iirc

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว

      It is! The Uncharted Worlds track :)

  • @phantom2450
    @phantom2450 ปีที่แล้ว +324

    Inject these lengthy cut content videos into my veins like it’s Ultrajet

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว +92

      *You've become addicted*

    • @MrQerson
      @MrQerson ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Isn't (ultra)jet using a inhaler?

    • @SvendleBerries
      @SvendleBerries ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@MrQerson
      Yes, but with the right know-how drugs can be ingested in many different ways. With gas to liquid changes, the process is called "condensation".

    • @kesgamingbot1249
      @kesgamingbot1249 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm Ultragay, inject me too

    • @walterhaider869
      @walterhaider869 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Lore is a hard drug for true fans.

  • @girrig97
    @girrig97 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    As always you do an invaluable service to the community and hope you know how much people appreciate your hard work and videos

  • @cellulanus
    @cellulanus ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It is ironic that they were brought back as nothing more then generic murderhobos.

  • @davidponder1654
    @davidponder1654 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Props to nv for having the least amount of time and bringing the most amount of factions

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It was really cool they made an homage to the Vipers and Jackals

  • @Grey8270
    @Grey8270 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The Vipers and Jackals are a tragic case as until new Vegas they always got screwed over besides the first fallout both gangs where meant to appear in Van Buren the Vipers would be lead by a man named Drake and the Jackals would be lead by Banshee other Jackals included Howler And Crazy Bitch lastly the Jackals where meant to appear in Fallout Brotherhood of Steel 2 Banshee would have returned as the leader of the Jackals the player would chase him through an airport until another Jackal named Bulldog appeared to fight the player during the fight Banshee would board a plane and escape later on the player would corner Banshee and interrogate him only for him to explode before he could talk

    • @isaiahjoseph7352
      @isaiahjoseph7352 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jesus, sounds like it would've been fun to hunt them down on the og engine lol

  • @JaelaOrdo
    @JaelaOrdo ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Cut raiders? Did Pickman get to them?

    • @Matt-md5yt
      @Matt-md5yt ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I got that reference

    • @ajflink
      @ajflink 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't know; however, his art gallery in the Mojave has this alluring and venomous aura to it. Such vivid detail of the internal anatomy of humans in his works!

  • @polaris9009
    @polaris9009 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I always hate hearing your outro begin... because it means the video is at the end

  • @brianmartinez1412
    @brianmartinez1412 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Can you make a video on Salem? I felt there were missed opportunities there with only one quest involving a crazy guy killing mirelurks.

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I definitely will at some point, but I currently have a long backlog of videos in the works already, regarding Tactics, The Combat Zone, Old World Blues, modding videos, etc.

  • @SPECTRA_87
    @SPECTRA_87 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    If the next fallout does not have a raider gang called the murder hobos, it's gonna be a missed opportunity.

  • @5t3v0esque
    @5t3v0esque ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As a stargate fan it's funny hearing Killian (voiced by Richard dean Anderson) talk about them "worshipping snakes"

  • @barkbuck5521
    @barkbuck5521 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I'm bummed that we never see more of them in game, as their stories are pretty interesting and in addition to the Khans, also makes the NCR becoming what it has more impressive. Like everyone out of that vault became bastards except for one small group, and wouldn't have lasted without the intervention of a protag. Makes me wonder if they would have survived up to NV if either the Khans or NCR wiped each other out, as both of those factions aren't shy about conquest.

    • @ВашеДоверие
      @ВашеДоверие ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Tbf, if it Shady Sands did not survive - another 'NCR' would've risen from The Hub, Junktown, Necropolis or any other town of survivors. Ofc, it would've also been drastically different both in ideals, symbolism and structure.

    • @colddaze6680
      @colddaze6680 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      NCR, Khans, Jackals and Vipers all came out of the same vault yeah?

  • @platinumshadow5626
    @platinumshadow5626 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The Fiends remain my favourite raider faction from the Fallout series.

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They're up there for me too.

  • @jokroast6912
    @jokroast6912 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If the factions were collapsed down into one, does that mean that some khans you fight are replaced raiders from the other two factions?

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm not so sure. Other than Garl Deathhand, the Khans only have two named NPCs you can speak to and neither of them seem related to the Vipers/Jackals, but it's possible their names were at least recycled.

  • @SWBF2-2005IsBestStfu
    @SWBF2-2005IsBestStfu ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Who doesn't love when a new TriangleCity drops another cut content banger??

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว +17

      🙏🙏🙏

    • @humanity_moment.
      @humanity_moment. ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's a trick question. NOBODY doesn't love when TriangleCity drops another cut content banger. For true Fallout fans. There is NEVER enough cut content until every single inch of every game has been scraped shiny, and we're left waiting for new cut content to come into reality.

  • @CyanEyed07
    @CyanEyed07 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    While I don't care for Raid Shadow Legends, I gotta admit it's a fitting sponsor for the video.

  • @ashtondoublet8334
    @ashtondoublet8334 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Hey so I just found this a couple of days ago in Fallout 3, but in the Franklin metro station cell space, a little ways south of the main station and platform are two nearly identical sqare rooms, I had no clue this existed and pondered of this had anything to do with any cut space or anything, probably just a place for enemies to spawn or something but I still have no clue what it could be, perhaps this is of interest to you considering you have been going through a bunch of Fallout 3 cut content recently.

  • @some-replies
    @some-replies ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Unrelated fallout question
    When should I do point lookout? Before starting broken steel?

    • @Cherridayze
      @Cherridayze ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You should do it some time

    • @toxicKorgi
      @toxicKorgi ปีที่แล้ว +2

      After since point lookouts enemies are a lot tougher compared to the enemies in broken steel.

  • @Jayneyy
    @Jayneyy ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dude your videos are just the best! Thank you for all your hard work and amazing videos this year!!

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much for supporting my channel! 🖤🖤🖤

  • @EanFox7
    @EanFox7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The man, the myth, the triangular man has struck back with another banger video

  • @joseybryant7577
    @joseybryant7577 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The old VHS tape aesthetic is so pleasant

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you so much dude! 💜💜💜

  • @ImYourGuyAustin
    @ImYourGuyAustin ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yes!!! more content from the main man himself. thanks so much my guy. love your content

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you so much dude! 💜💜💜

  • @Rohnon
    @Rohnon ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brother, did you read my mind?
    I'm currently collecting info on the Vipers and Jackals to flesh them out!
    Thanks alot for the vid, man!

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oooh for a New Vegas mod?

  • @Vaniity_Velvet
    @Vaniity_Velvet ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Vipers make no sense. If their entire belief system revolves around constant sacrifices and ingesting deadly Venom, where are they getting the fresh bodies? They aren't the only ones in the area that need Humans, Super-Mutants also do. I do not think that part of America would have anywhere near a large enough population of Humans and/or Ghouls to make them feasible. Unless the Giant Viper Venom actually wasn't all that deadly and they just randomly selected who among them would be sacrificed. That seems more realistic. A Giant Snake likely wouldn't have potent venom as there would be no need for it due to it's staggering size.

  • @asphaltape
    @asphaltape ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i think in new vegas the vipers should of been a full faction a minor one but still a faction their motivations being gaining the ability to mobilize in order to retake their holy land. if with the legion you convince them to join but if you join the vipers then go into the legion you can help the vipers indoctrinate a significant portion of the legion while joining them giving the legion vipers special purple and red armor with a reskin of that one armor that has the banner hanging above the head but with a viper on the banner this giving a special ending if caesar dies the legion becoming unified under the serpent everything throwing in little details referencing roman cults throughout this whole plot direction. The NCR's version of the quest would just be a go here kill everyone quest

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be really cool :)

  • @Leafeye7942
    @Leafeye7942 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ultimately though, I'm glad that you've got sponser to help make content more

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! They're making it possible for me to focus more on what I love, so I'm very thankful to have sponsors 💜💜💜

    • @Leafeye7942
      @Leafeye7942 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TriangleCity dude gag aside you are so relaxing to listen to, interesting, charming, and even your ads are entertaining. Thank you for being you man! Keep it up and don't get left in that cutting room floor

  • @Garnansoa
    @Garnansoa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wtf the Vipers sound fucking awesome why where they just generic goons in FNV

  • @robertjackson5925
    @robertjackson5925 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    U are thw phycho and mentats to my entertainment as U are the phycho an mentats to dr mobeus biojell

  • @Tacdelio
    @Tacdelio ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the mass effect galaxy travel menu music is my ringtone, makes me anxious every time i hear it lol

  • @Ghostface6
    @Ghostface6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another amazing post. I wonder what series you will move onto after fallout

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much dude! I'm considering doing some one offs on non-Fallout games.

    • @contramachina354
      @contramachina354 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TriangleCity please do Oblivion or TES in general

  • @TwoBs
    @TwoBs ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have nothing of value to add that hasn’t already been said, so commenting to help the channel in the algorithm. ❤️
    Always love these vids - they’re great while I work on mods.

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much dude! 💜💜💜

  • @jbrody38
    @jbrody38 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where do you get your music from?

  • @sideofhashbrowns660
    @sideofhashbrowns660 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh hell yeah!

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much! 💜💜💜

  • @beairmann
    @beairmann ปีที่แล้ว +1

    DAMN I wasn’t here first, here still though! Good stuff as always my man.

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much as always dude! 🖤🖤🖤

  • @nicklenuts
    @nicklenuts ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly I did think it was weird when I was younger how they are basically just fiends with a different name

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Particularly since they're barely mentioned throughout the entire game. Even if you had played F1 there's a good chance you still wouldn't know who they were, short of reading the Fallout Bible.

  • @bluebandit5586
    @bluebandit5586 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This has quickly become one of my favorite channels

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much dude! 💜💜💜

  • @AdaraHepburn938
    @AdaraHepburn938 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should make a TH-cam playlist with the songs you use as background music because you use absolute bangers

  • @684avatar
    @684avatar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of original raider clans from California reduced to just random villains with no lore smh

  • @hiltwo
    @hiltwo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always excited for a new Triangle City video, thank you!! :)

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for watching! 🖤🖤🖤

  • @LindeltCleric
    @LindeltCleric ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Murder hobos

  • @Kevlashnikov
    @Kevlashnikov ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tunnel Snakes Rule.

  • @ZappBranniglenn
    @ZappBranniglenn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You don't know how badly I want to earn a perk called Snake Eater in a Fallout game. Also, there's a bizarre lack of snake enemies in Fallout. Spiders too. How odd

    • @Austin-gj7zj
      @Austin-gj7zj ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Snakes would be much harder to put in than another humanoid or quadruped. They require a unique skeleton, unique animations, different pathing, etc. That's super expensive for an enemy that you probably wouldn't see in more than a handful of locations. That being said, it would be super cool.

  • @girrig97
    @girrig97 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was the sponsor choice on purpose for the topic?

  • @ScorpionCar
    @ScorpionCar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    25:56 - Great gem of a video! What song is playing here?

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you so much! Uncharted Worlds from the Mass Effect OST!

    • @ScorpionCar
      @ScorpionCar ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TriangleCity Awesome song! Thank you so much! The song is great for videos.

  • @ommino2174
    @ommino2174 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just wish they expand on the aftermath of the master the psychers and other stuff. And just remake 3 and nv with all cut content easiest millions to make

  • @JeremiahSablan
    @JeremiahSablan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man, endless companions? That would’ve came in handy in my first play through of fo1..

  • @robertjackson5925
    @robertjackson5925 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These npc's could have helped flesh out those open empty arias that are sometimes bland to traverse...

  • @michaelsilver253
    @michaelsilver253 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great War happened on October 23rd, not October 3rd... October 3rd 2077 will be my 90th birthday haha

  • @Ryuko-T72
    @Ryuko-T72 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jackals sounds like what the pack in nuka world should have been, instead of a weird gang of furry's

  • @tlip3480
    @tlip3480 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The slavers from fallout 3 were cool too. It's a terrible thing but completely believable.

  • @WarDogMadness
    @WarDogMadness ปีที่แล้ว

    Vipers followers of set. jackels followers jabalzog. Probably not but be cool conan nod if they were.

  • @ImmaSpam__________________Can
    @ImmaSpam__________________Can ปีที่แล้ว +4

    God I love dill pickles, I know this doesn't have anything to do with the video but dill pickles are good

  • @CrumpledPaperHearts
    @CrumpledPaperHearts ปีที่แล้ว

    The Mass Effect soundtrack playing in the background has me feeling some kind of way.

  • @Chedring
    @Chedring ปีที่แล้ว +2

    always a neato video.

  • @FatBoy42069
    @FatBoy42069 ปีที่แล้ว

    and then they sent a detachment to West Vergina. In 2010.

  • @johnjafon2410
    @johnjafon2410 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    based

  • @BronsoloTV
    @BronsoloTV ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nice! Been meaning to research the raider gangs for some videos soon. You’re the best man ❤

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're the best bro 💜💜💜

  • @zacharymccants77
    @zacharymccants77 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there any cut content regarding the lore behind Nuka Cola Quartz and Victory? It always bugged me that there was never any kind of story or explanation for them.

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not that I'm aware of, but it's possible it existed at one point and was deleted. Bethesda were much better at deleting unused content that Obsidian

  • @jonwashburn7999
    @jonwashburn7999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks. Always wondered about them.

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for watching! 💜💜💜

  • @tacoman736
    @tacoman736 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome you’ve been able to do this for years, glad for each post

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much for watching! 💜💜💜

  • @concept5631
    @concept5631 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:49 Vipers
    23:46 Jackals

  • @concept5631
    @concept5631 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    22:11 Van Buren Vipers

  • @jameshouse7862
    @jameshouse7862 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the feinds and khans

  • @chilldude30
    @chilldude30 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Woohoo this sounds great

  • @sinisterisrandom8537
    @sinisterisrandom8537 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hopefully, someone makes a mod for FO1, 2, 3, and NV. All being connected. One day that is.

  • @concept5631
    @concept5631 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:01
    Done

  • @eclipseRz
    @eclipseRz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First yehaw

  • @kerjectroter3761
    @kerjectroter3761 ปีที่แล้ว

    That would be awesome if they added the two other raiders to the game. That would be a great reboot for the Franchise.

  • @hideakiakio6698
    @hideakiakio6698 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you find the New Vegas mod that adds fallout 4 raider armor in the thumbnail

  • @Ted4321
    @Ted4321 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this,can't wait for more fallout 4 and skyrim/elden scrolls in general

  • @G34RH34D
    @G34RH34D ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The only interesting raiders were from Fallout 3. That anarchistic punk aesthetic made them enjoyable to listen to.

  • @wastelandnerd
    @wastelandnerd ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is awesome to create some RPG stories... Thank you!

  • @tylerramos7633
    @tylerramos7633 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It took me three different tries at starting fallout 1 before I could actually get into it but god damn once I did that game became my favorite in the series. Anybody who is a fan of retro games has to play fallout.

  • @BLOODSETTA
    @BLOODSETTA ปีที่แล้ว

    what's the song in 27:52

    • @Austin-gj7zj
      @Austin-gj7zj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's from the FNV OST

  • @mando482
    @mando482 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anybody remember the cut line when you raided Mr. House's chambers to access his body? After you activate the wall door with the terminal, Mr. House's line "It's Fallout time!" Is played. And the courier jingle-jangles past the securitrons and kills him.

  • @Joel-e3b
    @Joel-e3b ปีที่แล้ว

    R E S O N A N C E H O M E

  • @Sofus.
    @Sofus. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🐍🐈

  • @katinthehat1420
    @katinthehat1420 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gamer

  • @Matt-md5yt
    @Matt-md5yt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hey glad you talked about some Raiders my friend, wish Bethesda would have fleshed them out better same with Gunners and Talon Company

  • @ryanvandoren1519
    @ryanvandoren1519 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro I can't stop farting..

  • @owenness6146
    @owenness6146 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know what, I love your channel and I'm not going to skip that sponsor spot.

  • @allofthelightsbykanyewest
    @allofthelightsbykanyewest ปีที่แล้ว

    we’re with the vipers

    • @tomasfennigbauer7927
      @tomasfennigbauer7927 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      “Oooo really, what’s that your Girl Scouts group?”