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“and no objectives appeared on the Pip-Boy’s screen to guide the courier to freedom” Really stuck with me because it really feels like you, the player, were actually hopelessly trapped
This is a misconception. The bug is not with their perception, the bug is with the day/night cycle. Because the game applies a -100 sneak penalty during daytime, even if visually night and day look the same in the Sierra Madre.
@@ChrissieBear This is not entirely true also. I quote from the New Vegas mod on Nexus Mods "Essential DLC Enhancements Merged": "Ghost People Perception Fix: In the vanilla game, Ghost People have a Perception of 0, and there was a misconception for a long time that the game interpreted this as an overflow and gave them virtually infinite Perception, which made it almost impossible to sneak past them. However, it is now known that the game engine interprets a Perception of zero as 1, and that the real reason why Ghost People are hard to sneak by is due to their high level (this has been proven by xNVSE devs decoding the relevant parts of the engine). There was an old fix that changed the Perception of all Ghost People to 1 to 'fix' this bug, and it is included here for completeness, and as the Ghost People are already edited due to the fix below, so it makes no difference if this change is made too. Plus, it satisfies those that still have the placebo effect regarding this." It also depended on the Ghost People's level. The higher the level of an enemy, the stronger they are at detecting your presence. "Ghost People Sneak Detection Fix: Reduces the level of Ghost People to fix a notorious bug where they can very easily detect the player, even when he is concealed and at a distance. As a side effect, this also reduces the XP received from killing them, which is an extra bonus as the high rates of XP from the DLCs is unbalanced anyway. The level changes are: - Tier 0: Level 5 -> Level 3 - Tier 1: Level 15 -> Level 5 - Tier 2: Level 25 -> Level 10 - Tier 3: Level 35 -> Level 15 - Tier 4: Level 45 -> Level 20 - Tier 5: Level 50 -> Level 25"
Rest in peace, Richard Herd. You absolutely perfected Father Elijah's voice. This DLC would not have been so intimidating and powerful without your voice. Edit: Barry Dennen, the voice actor of Dean Domino also passed away.
I remember when this DLC came out and everyone hating it. Especially the ones who didn't get into crafting much and were suddenly forced to do it. I think the fan backlash scared obsidian into making anything similar to it's in further DLCs.
It was so easy. Pick up melee, spam the most boring pkaystyle in the game, and hoard shit like you're townbuilding in F4. If they had more or better exploration, more than one kind of enemy, or anything that isn't spanking the same mob 50 times it would be OK. It took me like 7 days to beat it just because I would play for a few minutes, get bored, and turn off the game. Only played for the story and lore. Half a DLC. I felt ripped off.
Fells like a 4th wall break, as most of the location markers for objectives and items lead you to the exact place, compared to other games where the items can be in a room but not marked so you have to search it
@@josejuancerdabarraza3544 It felt like just the right amount of 4th wall breaking. We constantly hear “Let me mark it in your Pipboy” or whatever but this is the one time how the Pipboy functions in-universe (that I can think of) is mentioned outside of throw-away Preston Garvey comments. But it also would’ve raised other questions “Who writes in the objectives? Who’s been updating the topographic map of the post-WW3 US? Who’s operating the GPS satellites to track current Pipboy locations?” Probably better off never trying to define exactly how it works in-game as it’s just a player interface but since it’s a staple of the series it’s cool to hear it mentioned more.
@@ShakenBake145 What if its something like a Enclave AI? Dutifully doing it's task of Aiding Pip-Boy Owners in their lives, unaware the Enclave has been destroyed, simply mindlessly doing its task as demanded
@@ShakenBake145 Phones have motion sensors now which track your general location, I assumed the pip boy 3000 had the same meme. And I also assumed that the player updated his objectives himself, but died before he could even think of doing that
This DLC literally made my character an alcoholic, he became addicted to multiple different spirits simultaneously just to counter the early bird perk.
Yeah if you go into it with the wrong build you are gonna have a tough time. And for the sake of your sanity I strongly suggest getting the light step perk.
Dead Money is my favorite Fallout anything. The characters, writing, atmopshere, setting, all the art-deco style, I love all of it. As always, a highly entertaining and informative video, thanks for making it!!
The part about arrow heart man is probably the most interesting to me, as it fills out a bit more of Elijahs previous attempt that got him trapped in the casino, and how it all went wrong afterwords. I feel like we also see some of his graffiti in other DLCs, but that might just be reused assets or me making things up.
On the subject of losing hours of progress... I was at Vault 34, getting the All American Carbine Rifle. By the time i left the Vault & made it to that gap of no radiation in the cave closest to the Vault Entrance, i had not only used all my Rad Away, bit had also found myself to be at the rad cap... Meaning if i took TWO steps in either direction, it was an instant death.
This has been such a cool and insightful series. When it's done in a few episodes, do you think you could do a video talking about how you did your research and your thought process when writing/recording? One thing I'm really curious about is how much you got your hands wet digging around in the G.E.C.K. yourself versus how much you gathered information from modders and data miners.
It still angers me to no end that Christine couldn't come back to the Mojave as a companion, partly because she's voice by Laura-freaking-Bailey and partly because it would have been nice for Veronica and Christine to finally reunite after Christine's obsession with killing Elijah was over. They both deserved that much and I think her ending where she literally just sits in the Sierra Madre forever is complete BS. There's a lot of wasted potential in FNV as a whole, but that one legit took the cake.
@@RobinTheBot are you nuts. The game didn't come out in the 1950s. There were plenty of gay, les, and bi characters in media by the time this game was made.
@@markcarpenter6020 that doesn’t mean they were popular though. NV was released in 2010, lesbian couples still couldn’t be legally married in a dozen states at the time
I’m always kind of curious how the ghosts would work with FO4’s ghoul system where you could have a functioning and aggressive entity while losing limbs since the ghosts in NV lose almost every bit of scare that they have when you realize just targeting one limb kills them pretty quickly (especially since all the DLC weapons do some form of extra limb damage). Would definitely add more to the immortal aspect that the ghosts have lore wise, and maybe making their head unbreakable to add even more scare to them since the normal tactics won’t work. Making them these immortal things that you can only delimb really adds to that idea you need to hack and slash them completely to stop them.
16:16 I never knew all the years I've been playing this game there was a developer behind that wall having to control radio signals and ambient music.. I always just assumed the games code did all that, no wounder they get paid so much! I don't envy them.
You seemed to have missed the fact that "The quick scribe jumped over the lazy paladin" is a nod to " the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog" which is a sentence that uses every letter in the English alphabet
I know this vid was made a while ago but during my last playthru I got the dialogue “Christine taps her weapon angrily, assumes defensive stance” while exploring the Vila
You're one of if not the best fnv channel out there. I don't know how you can still pull so much content from early stages to last second cuts. It honestly just makes me wish we could have gotten another project like this from obsidian.
i know this is 2 years old but the barrel is in the hallway as you exit the vault after killing elijah, it falls into your path and takes a second to push away
This has always been my favorite DLC of any Fallout game. I always play the base game until I reach level 15, then I do “Old World Blues” to level up quickly. I usually leave the Big MT at level 25. Then I go meet Veronica, get her info on Elijah then hit the Sierra Madre. New Vegas is a masterpiece, even though it’s buggy as hell
I think the Christine can happen when you enter the elevator factory part with the two turrets and she runs into it she runs back and if you talk to her it mentions her shaking her head for dialogue and then she runs right back into combat
I think something that’s always really upset me about dead money is they made this relationship between Veronica and Christine, but there’s literally no way for you to reunite them. Like you build all this character background all for nothing :/
28:48 the police pistol is a 44 magnum which was downscaled causing the texture stretching. since its the same model as in fo3, it came with a mounted scope and thats what that part of the texture is, it is not a suppressor. This whole rumour stems from an edit from Devastating Dave to the wiki around May 10th 2014 of a silencer and hasn't been corrected.
Except the 44 magnum is already in FNV with an updated texture since the scope is optional and you can literally see a suppressor on the texture map for the Police Pistol. Why would they use the outdated F3 to base the weapon on when a more up-to-date one exists?
1:13:53 Considering how half of NPCs in vanilla game share same bored VA, I honestly wouldn't mjnd cutting on voice acting IF they promise to give us something in return like better and more writting, dialogue choices, consequences etc
It's hopeful, but I really would like one day for the team of New Vegas to go and remake the game with a larger budget and time, put it in a new engine, and add some of the cut content and do some rewrites. That'd be nice
I'd rather have a new fallout game with a new story set in a new location. But with the unvoiced blank slate protagonist of FNV, the skill checks, multiple ways to finish quests, crafting/survival aspects, intelligent writing and multiple endings that made FNV a great game... oh, and with the combat from fallout 4. It's the only aspect of that game that should be kept.
I would have liked to have seen the ghost people become somewhat sentient. Maybe using Christine and the vera voice to soothe them or something. 🎩 🐍 no step on snek! 🇺🇸🇭🇰
I used to hate this DLC, but after replaying this DLC in my new playthrough, i really enjoyed it. Love the atmosphere, and the Ghost People. And i can steal all of the gold in the vault and the pre-war money from the casino.
I'm glad ghoul Vera was cut simply because I feel the series has _way_ too many pre-war ghouls running around now. In Fallout 1 and 2 they were exceedingly rare individuals to the point that running into one had a ton of mystique. By Fallout 4 you've got the kid in the freaking fridge and the Vault Tec salesman and the guy at the Nuka Cola World and every second ghoul and they ruined it... -____- Legitimately that game ruined it completely.
Just a side note...it took from when it came out, until about a month for me to lock Ejiah in the vault and get out before he can see me WITH *ALL THE GOLD*
That's the difference between being a fan, and being a producer. As was said in this video: voice-acting costs a lot of money - so the more gets written, the more it's going to cost. And Obsidian had already gotten the message that they weren't going to receive any more assets. So they had to work with what they had. Chris already circumvented it, by making Christine largely text-based.
I was a little disappointed that we never got to mention to Veronica that we met christine. That and when you finally give her a dress she never puts it on lol.
@@marklarizzle it would've been hilarious to get veronica and christine together, have em talk, veronica cries, they hug, and then you blow Christine's fuhkin pee brain head-off-right-gat-damn-there, man.
@@b.a.k5367 that's as funny as me forcing you away of a loved one for 5 years, then forcing you to watch me kill said loved one, then laughing when you start crying.
I pulled an all-nighter on very-hard survival mode the first time I played this DLC. The idea of neither stopping nor sleeping until the heist was done definitely betters the experience
Honestly its the only way of doing it, realistically if you arent standing around doing nothing and know a little of the DLC, it would only take 6 ish hours.
I think "Dead Money" fits much better than "Dead Mans Hand" since the whole thing the Madre has going for it is its riches and the large amount of people who've died trying to obtain it.
Yeah much more fitting. And like the other guy said, its snappy. Just feels good to say. Fits the whole greed theme. Id call it a perfect name tbh, couldnt think of something better
I totally agree, but it would have been nice to see more wild west folklore-like stuff in NV. The whole Vikki and Vance unmarked quest is well funny, so that kind of story works really well alongside Fallout's satire
Just got the “christine taps her weapon angrily and takes a defensive stance” while playing, there are turrets in the switching station which have higher DT than the ghost people
I guess because it’s silent, a lot of players miss that, and they don’t hear the lines for God/Dog and Dean because one doesnt often bring them to the switching station
I suppose if I'm charitable, you could argue all of them get knocked out/disabled but Dog only drags the one person to the Sierra Madre, naturally being the player.
Considering Ulysses hacks Ed-e multiple times in lonesome road and elijah is a master engineer so it wouldn’t surprise me if he has some way to disable robots through dog’s collar.
@@grigger7000 Bethesda's Fallouts were good games in my opinion, they just weren't good Fallout games. They lack the passion required to make a good one. It would be a dream come true if Obsidian made another Fallout game or a New Vegas remaster with all the cut content.
@@arcturus4317 Well put. I liked Fallout 3 and 4, I think the way they conceptualized the gameplay (we wouldn't have 3D Fallout w/o 3) was really cool! But the stories feels a little... out of place in the overarching universe.
Avellone talks about how Dead Money was supposed to be horror-themed, but I think all the DLCs had plenty of horror elements; Dead Money is a zombie-esque survival horror, Honest Hearts feels like old stories of being stranded in a foreign place and being forced to survive and find your way back to civilization, Old World Blues is both campy 50's sci-fi and genuine body horror, and Lonesome Road is like an apocalypse disaster within an apocalypse. They're all expertly written and to me are genuinely creepy.
19:15 The barrel IS actually used as a trap in the escape sequence. Although, it kinda just tips over in front of the player, so it's more of a scenic thing than a trap.
Honestly, Dead Money definitely has one of my favorite stories in the game and I have always found it's challenge rewarding for that reason. It's always my penultimate quest for that reason too. In general I can flip whether I do Honest Hearts or Old World Blues first, even though HH is really meant to be first. Dead Money though? It's not just the difficulty but, honestly, also that it just feels at home as the penultimate quest before Lonesome Road. A last great challenge, a gauntlet to test your resolve, and a story to tie off the last few side-plot threads before Lonesome Road wraps up the present and The Battle of Hoover Dam puts a bow on it. A part of me will always feel like New Vegas would be just a bit less without it and I'll always appreciate it's inclusion. Honestly, talking about all this kind of makes me want to play it again.
It felt more like system shock 2 to me, maybe that's just because I'm more familiar with that one than Bioshock. Bioshock's design is more or less a streamlined SS2 anyway
Love this DLC. Old world casino heist orchestrated by a mad brotherhood scribe? And I'm trapped with a croner Ghoul, Narcissist Super Mutant and Brotherhood assassin? Fuck yes.
You sure about Dean's holo recording being cut? I remember hearing that whole thing, not just the first line, in my game. Same with the "E.B.E." note to Sinclair, I definitely remember reading that one in my game.
@@NintendoSunnyDee I remember the troopers in between forlorn hope and nelson. Legs blown off and groping the air. When I talked to them all they would say was "Kill me...." then it was removed with the first update.
I will die on this hill: anyone who didn't like Dead Money didn't like it because it was the only part of New Vegas that actually punishes you for being bad at it.
Meh. I mostly find it annoying. It's not too hard I just don't like much of the loot you get either. Least favorite of all the dlc. Although the story is cool and liked how they wrapped up Elijah's story, and integrated him into other dlc's
No dead money is a shitty dlc only praised for the slighty above Medicore writing. The speakers kill all the middling fun and the ghost people get stale quickly
Lmao I don’t like dead money cause the opposite, it’s challenging until you meet dog then from there it’s a cake walk. Got to install mods to make it harder
@@charlesthoreson4162 there's no reason for it to not be remastered honestly. Pretty much the only game I've seen that people want a remaster for but for some reason Bethesda doesn't want some mad bucks to settle their greed.
Wow you people really hate the idea of a remake. News flash, if you have to comment on someone else's post and say something stupid, you are the real idiot. What type of person is so insecure that an updated version of a video game would threaten them? You guys clearly need therapy if this comment is the thing that got you angry. I know not all remakes will be destroy all human level of good, but shut up. You can still play the shittey version, just don't badmouth everyone else who wants the company to get off there lazy asses and make something good.
@@charlesthoreson4162 Charles, it's your grandmother, please get off the interwebs your room smells so bad. You haven't showered in weeks Charles please, you have to throw the poop sock away.
Considering all the other mistakes and oversights in the DLC I'm wondering if the ghost worship triggers not being placed is cut content or someone forgetting to place them or not having time to place them.
I feel Dead Money is a better title than Dead Mans Hand because its more unique and the concept of Dead Money as a gambling term is waaaaaaaay better for the whole "let go" theme the DLC is aiming for
Holy shit I thought this would be a 15 minutes video only to see an hour and fifteen minutes. Right, time to make some tea and put on the big TV screen. It's so nice to see such passion for a great game. There's no words to express the appreciation for your efforts. Thank you.
Everytime i heard "leaving the gold behind" i scream internaly while saying to myself "not even having both legs broken Will stop me from carrying every single goldbar with me back into the Mojave" because by god i won't Let them go
@@zoltanz288 No, you don't understand...i ALWAYS get every single damn gold bar and i won't leave the sierra madre without them, i didn't came for the adventures, i want my damn gold
@@zoltanz288 a good trick is to strip down and leaver everything you don't need and had weight in a chest when you first go on the basement. Then just grab your stuff on the way out.
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I love Dead Money. It gets a lot of undeserved hate.
Please do a video like this for all the DLC's
“and no objectives appeared on the Pip-Boy’s screen to guide the courier to freedom” Really stuck with me because it really feels like you, the player, were actually hopelessly trapped
I think its a reference to the fact that one of the complaints for the new fallouts was the reliance on quest markers.
@@markshaw270 hear me out, it could just be referring to the fact the pipboy displays a objective marker
@@CourierSiix damn never could’ve thought of that
@@CourierSiix Based
theres a way out, IIRC theres a pistol and a bunch of bullets in there.
Kinda funny that there's an entire ghost stealth test area considering the ones in game are bugged to have max perception.
It's not a bug, it's intended.
This is a misconception. The bug is not with their perception, the bug is with the day/night cycle. Because the game applies a -100 sneak penalty during daytime, even if visually night and day look the same in the Sierra Madre.
@@ChrissieBear Because the sky in the Sierra Madre has the whole Batman Beyond type of sky, always red.
@@ChrissieBear This is not entirely true also.
I quote from the New Vegas mod on Nexus Mods "Essential DLC Enhancements Merged":
"Ghost People Perception Fix: In the vanilla game, Ghost People have a Perception of 0, and there was a misconception for a long time that the game interpreted this as an overflow and gave them virtually infinite Perception, which made it almost impossible to sneak past them. However, it is now known that the game engine interprets a Perception of zero as 1, and that the real reason why Ghost People are hard to sneak by is due to their high level (this has been proven by xNVSE devs decoding the relevant parts of the engine). There was an old fix that changed the Perception of all Ghost People to 1 to 'fix' this bug, and it is included here for completeness, and as the Ghost People are already edited due to the fix below, so it makes no difference if this change is made too. Plus, it satisfies those that still have the placebo effect regarding this."
It also depended on the Ghost People's level. The higher the level of an enemy, the stronger they are at detecting your presence.
"Ghost People Sneak Detection Fix: Reduces the level of Ghost People to fix a notorious bug where they can very easily detect the player, even when he is concealed and at a distance. As a side effect, this also reduces the XP received from killing them, which is an extra bonus as the high rates of XP from the DLCs is unbalanced anyway. The level changes are:
- Tier 0: Level 5 -> Level 3
- Tier 1: Level 15 -> Level 5
- Tier 2: Level 25 -> Level 10
- Tier 3: Level 35 -> Level 15
- Tier 4: Level 45 -> Level 20
- Tier 5: Level 50 -> Level 25"
@@ChrissieBear Then why do mods that set their perception value to 1 fix the problem? Because it's a bug with their Perception.
Rest in peace, Richard Herd. You absolutely perfected Father Elijah's voice. This DLC would not have been so intimidating and powerful without your voice.
Edit: Barry Dennen, the voice actor of Dean Domino also passed away.
Same with Barry Dennen
That's really sad i didn't even know that Elijah's voice actor died
@@brucewayne33497 I think he died last year
@@brucewayne33497 Someone also pointed out that Barry Dennen died as well, he was the voice actor of Dean Domino.
Barry Dennen also kills it as Dean Domino. They got some _fantastic_ actors in this game.
Please never stop making these. I literally binge these things for hours.
Hey there’s the high-roller
Youve been causing quite a stir on the strip
I also binge these things all the time
You know, if you were serving you'd be halfway up to general by now
Yeah, now we can start the party!
I remember when this DLC came out and everyone hating it. Especially the ones who didn't get into crafting much and were suddenly forced to do it. I think the fan backlash scared obsidian into making anything similar to it's in further DLCs.
Good. Dead Money is terrible. It is the only DLC from FNV I can safely say I just didn’t ever enjoy.
@@surprisedchar2458 That's your wrong opinion...
@@surprisedchar2458 it's the best, you're crazy
It was so easy. Pick up melee, spam the most boring pkaystyle in the game, and hoard shit like you're townbuilding in F4. If they had more or better exploration, more than one kind of enemy, or anything that isn't spanking the same mob 50 times it would be OK. It took me like 7 days to beat it just because I would play for a few minutes, get bored, and turn off the game. Only played for the story and lore.
Half a DLC. I felt ripped off.
Guess at the time they don't know what the damn concept of survival horror is. Ungrateful people
6:30 “And no objectives appeared on the Pipboy’s screen” I really like that line for some reason
Fells like a 4th wall break, as most of the location markers for objectives and items lead you to the exact place, compared to other games where the items can be in a room but not marked so you have to search it
^^ It made me cringe in a good way 😭
@@josejuancerdabarraza3544 It felt like just the right amount of 4th wall breaking. We constantly hear “Let me mark it in your Pipboy” or whatever but this is the one time how the Pipboy functions in-universe (that I can think of) is mentioned outside of throw-away Preston Garvey comments. But it also would’ve raised other questions “Who writes in the objectives? Who’s been updating the topographic map of the post-WW3 US? Who’s operating the GPS satellites to track current Pipboy locations?”
Probably better off never trying to define exactly how it works in-game as it’s just a player interface but since it’s a staple of the series it’s cool to hear it mentioned more.
@@ShakenBake145 What if its something like a Enclave AI? Dutifully doing it's task of Aiding Pip-Boy Owners in their lives, unaware the Enclave has been destroyed, simply mindlessly doing its task as demanded
@@ShakenBake145 Phones have motion sensors now which track your general location, I assumed the pip boy 3000 had the same meme. And I also assumed that the player updated his objectives himself, but died before he could even think of doing that
This DLC literally made my character an alcoholic, he became addicted to multiple different spirits simultaneously just to counter the early bird perk.
Them Sierra Madre martinis
Yeah if you go into it with the wrong build you are gonna have a tough time. And for the sake of your sanity I strongly suggest getting the light step perk.
1 Endurance Dead Money run is a pilgrimage of suffering.
Dead Money is my favorite Fallout anything. The characters, writing, atmopshere, setting, all the art-deco style, I love all of it. As always, a highly entertaining and informative video, thanks for making it!!
The part about arrow heart man is probably the most interesting to me, as it fills out a bit more of Elijahs previous attempt that got him trapped in the casino, and how it all went wrong afterwords. I feel like we also see some of his graffiti in other DLCs, but that might just be reused assets or me making things up.
On the subject of losing hours of progress... I was at Vault 34, getting the All American Carbine Rifle.
By the time i left the Vault & made it to that gap of no radiation in the cave closest to the Vault Entrance, i had not only used all my Rad Away, bit had also found myself to be at the rad cap... Meaning if i took TWO steps in either direction, it was an instant death.
This has been such a cool and insightful series. When it's done in a few episodes, do you think you could do a video talking about how you did your research and your thought process when writing/recording?
One thing I'm really curious about is how much you got your hands wet digging around in the G.E.C.K. yourself versus how much you gathered information from modders and data miners.
It still angers me to no end that Christine couldn't come back to the Mojave as a companion, partly because she's voice by Laura-freaking-Bailey and partly because it would have been nice for Veronica and Christine to finally reunite after Christine's obsession with killing Elijah was over. They both deserved that much and I think her ending where she literally just sits in the Sierra Madre forever is complete BS. There's a lot of wasted potential in FNV as a whole, but that one legit took the cake.
Agreed and then some
Well saying lesbians exists was enough for them. You don't think they, in that year, would have an active gay couple?
@@RobinTheBot are you nuts. The game didn't come out in the 1950s. There were plenty of gay, les, and bi characters in media by the time this game was made.
@@RobinTheBot incredible bait!!!! :)
@@markcarpenter6020 that doesn’t mean they were popular though. NV was released in 2010, lesbian couples still couldn’t be legally married in a dozen states at the time
Dang, even dlcs were heavily constrained, so much potential. Crazy how ONE poster can have so many references to cultural history.
Dead Money is the real reason I come back to New Vegas over and over again. Its an astonishingly high quality DLC.
44:04 - Elijah is talking about Veronica for this most likely, you hear veronica talk so much about him even calling him sorta like a grandpa.
I’m always kind of curious how the ghosts would work with FO4’s ghoul system where you could have a functioning and aggressive entity while losing limbs since the ghosts in NV lose almost every bit of scare that they have when you realize just targeting one limb kills them pretty quickly (especially since all the DLC weapons do some form of extra limb damage). Would definitely add more to the immortal aspect that the ghosts have lore wise, and maybe making their head unbreakable to add even more scare to them since the normal tactics won’t work. Making them these immortal things that you can only delimb really adds to that idea you need to hack and slash them completely to stop them.
16:16 I never knew all the years I've been playing this game there was a developer behind that wall having to control radio signals and ambient music.. I always just assumed the games code did all that, no wounder they get paid so much! I don't envy them.
You seemed to have missed the fact that "The quick scribe jumped over the lazy paladin" is a nod to " the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog" which is a sentence that uses every letter in the English alphabet
Remembering that I got this day 1 for my Xbox as a gift for Christmas and stayed up all night beating it
Thank you for showing new Vegas so much love and for linking the mods to enable the cut content
“Tome of Horrors of Dnd”
Yep, as a DM and player as well for ToH, that sums up Dead Money.
I know this vid was made a while ago but during my last playthru I got the dialogue “Christine taps her weapon angrily, assumes defensive stance” while exploring the Vila
You're one of if not the best fnv channel out there. I don't know how you can still pull so much content from early stages to last second cuts. It honestly just makes me wish we could have gotten another project like this from obsidian.
i know this is 2 years old but the barrel is in the hallway as you exit the vault after killing elijah, it falls into your path and takes a second to push away
Left my heart at the Sierra Madre, but they had to remove it before launch
“Oooooor it might just be a random fucking barrel” had me crying
5:55 vending machine- police pistol is/was actually available on console I’m pretty sure I have an old clip on my capture card of me making it
Super heated knife:
Hey vault dwellers and today were gonna see how a ghost person reacts to a 9000 degree knife!!
This has always been my favorite DLC of any Fallout game. I always play the base game until I reach level 15, then I do “Old World Blues” to level up quickly. I usually leave the Big MT at level 25. Then I go meet Veronica, get her info on Elijah then hit the Sierra Madre. New Vegas is a masterpiece, even though it’s buggy as hell
I think the Christine can happen when you enter the elevator factory part with the two turrets and she runs into it she runs back and if you talk to her it mentions her shaking her head for dialogue and then she runs right back into combat
Holy fuck an hour? Let’s gooooooooo!
I think something that’s always really upset me about dead money is they made this relationship between Veronica and Christine, but there’s literally no way for you to reunite them. Like you build all this character background all for nothing :/
This video reminded me why I loved the Holorifle
28:48 the police pistol is a 44 magnum which was downscaled causing the texture stretching. since its the same model as in fo3, it came with a mounted scope and thats what that part of the texture is, it is not a suppressor. This whole rumour stems from an edit from Devastating Dave to the wiki around May 10th 2014 of a silencer and hasn't been corrected.
Except the 44 magnum is already in FNV with an updated texture since the scope is optional and you can literally see a suppressor on the texture map for the Police Pistol. Why would they use the outdated F3 to base the weapon on when a more up-to-date one exists?
1:13:53 Considering how half of NPCs in vanilla game share same bored VA, I honestly wouldn't mjnd cutting on voice acting IF they promise to give us something in return like better and more writting, dialogue choices, consequences etc
Silencers on revolvers don't make any sense because there isn't a seal between the barrel and chamber.
Also god, that van buren BOS bit fit's totally from a tone point of view of the evolution of the faction from F1 to 2 and then 3
I just want to go to sleep bro you didn't have to drop over an hour of this juicy content on me right now
It's hopeful, but I really would like one day for the team of New Vegas to go and remake the game with a larger budget and time, put it in a new engine, and add some of the cut content and do some rewrites. That'd be nice
I'd rather have a new fallout game with a new story set in a new location. But with the unvoiced blank slate protagonist of FNV, the skill checks, multiple ways to finish quests, crafting/survival aspects, intelligent writing and multiple endings that made FNV a great game... oh, and with the combat from fallout 4. It's the only aspect of that game that should be kept.
13:32 well that explains that frequency of him talking about it
Wow, this game is just soo filled with cut stuff, sooo much stuff.
Ohhhhh, Baby. I'm ready for it.
I would have liked to have seen the ghost people become somewhat sentient.
Maybe using Christine and the vera voice to soothe them or something.
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🐍 no step on snek! 🇺🇸🇭🇰
Always here for these man, great as always!
Incredible, great video as always!
Damn, the video is amazing, but if you don’t mind me asking, what ENB or light effects mod are you using? Thanks, keep it up, these videos are great.
I assumed this video was posted a couple years ago or something. Wow this is recent
I used to hate this DLC, but after replaying this DLC in my new playthrough, i really enjoyed it. Love the atmosphere, and the Ghost People. And i can steal all of the gold in the vault and the pre-war money from the casino.
I'd love a Honest Hearts and Lonesome Road DLCs cut contents as those are where my favorites quests and NPCs are.
I'm glad ghoul Vera was cut simply because I feel the series has _way_ too many pre-war ghouls running around now.
In Fallout 1 and 2 they were exceedingly rare individuals to the point that running into one had a ton of mystique. By Fallout 4 you've got the kid in the freaking fridge and the Vault Tec salesman and the guy at the Nuka Cola World and every second ghoul and they ruined it... -____-
Legitimately that game ruined it completely.
Fallout 4 should not be considered cannon
Just a side note...it took from when it came out, until about a month for me to lock Ejiah in the vault and get out before he can see me WITH *ALL THE GOLD*
My camera glitched up in the end cutscene and I seen that room 17:20 made for a even more atmospheric ending.
Great work, thank you for some good content
Oh boy this is going to be absolut epic
1:01:38 these notes are in the ps3 edition
Great vid. I really hope you're doing the other dlcs too!
Vera becoming a ghoul would've been amazing
it’s actually pretty easy to get the duck and cover under deans bed in the final game
amazing videos man keep it up
Dude i like your content and your voice. I subscribed now.
45:44 I stood at the top and hailed grenades onto them
ONE HOUR OF NV CUT CONTENT! LETS GOOOO!
Rest In Peace Richard herd
49:53
Why yes, I would like LESS lore/dialogue in my RPGs, thank you Jason.
That's the difference between being a fan, and being a producer. As was said in this video: voice-acting costs a lot of money - so the more gets written, the more it's going to cost. And Obsidian had already gotten the message that they weren't going to receive any more assets. So they had to work with what they had. Chris already circumvented it, by making Christine largely text-based.
@@jaydamalley3398 We... understand this? It's directly stated before this segment.
@@damon22441 You did? Your sarcasm suggested you didn't.
I was a little disappointed that we never got to mention to Veronica that we met christine. That and when you finally give her a dress she never puts it on lol.
Kinda tragic that Christine can never reunite with Veronica because the game won't alow it.
@@marklarizzle it kinda makes sense though
@@marklarizzle it would've been hilarious to get veronica and christine together, have em talk, veronica cries, they hug, and then you blow Christine's fuhkin pee brain head-off-right-gat-damn-there, man.
@@b.a.k5367 that's as funny as me forcing you away of a loved one for 5 years, then forcing you to watch me kill said loved one, then laughing when you start crying.
@@beb_9345 cringe
Elijah talking about killing the Courier sounds like he's narrating a children's book
"that kids is how I killed the courier"
Pretty fitting since he calls the NCR "Children playing with toys" everyone is below elijah in his mind even the player lol.
@@unoriginalperson72 (he says sitting on a couch in a room filled with small skeletons.)
He sounds like it was a fond memory
Yeah, it's a creepy touch
I pulled an all-nighter on very-hard survival mode the first time I played this DLC. The idea of neither stopping nor sleeping until the heist was done definitely betters the experience
Feels in Character for the DLC too
I guess that makes you a pain freak
Shits crazy dog i envy the experience it must have been for you
Honestly its the only way of doing it, realistically if you arent standing around doing nothing and know a little of the DLC, it would only take 6 ish hours.
Just finished dead money the same way with no bud it definitely changes the whole experience of the dlc or even the whole game honestly
I think "Dead Money" fits much better than "Dead Mans Hand" since the whole thing the Madre has going for it is its riches and the large amount of people who've died trying to obtain it.
Little more snappy too
Yeah much more fitting. And like the other guy said, its snappy. Just feels good to say. Fits the whole greed theme. Id call it a perfect name tbh, couldnt think of something better
Yeah, “Dead Mans Hand” sounds like a Pirates of the Caribbean movie
I thought so too. Dead Money rolls off the tongue better, and it fits the meta of the theming in the DLC.
I totally agree, but it would have been nice to see more wild west folklore-like stuff in NV. The whole Vikki and Vance unmarked quest is well funny, so that kind of story works really well alongside Fallout's satire
Just got the “christine taps her weapon angrily and takes a defensive stance” while playing, there are turrets in the switching station which have higher DT than the ghost people
I guess because it’s silent, a lot of players miss that, and they don’t hear the lines for God/Dog and Dean because one doesnt often bring them to the switching station
i'll give this a try and check with the other 2 companions
I got the dialogue about the bombs on the ghost people from Dean Domino once, it’s a speech check I think
If you have any patches like YUP they could easily be the reason it showed up. If not then idk
@@Koji44- ye i did this with YUP to be fair. Does that change the DT of turrets?
Let’s go, been waiting for this. Are you planning on covering the other DLCs as well?
lets hope so!
Can’t imagine how big lonesome road or old world blues are!
Old world blues would be nice.
He said fuck replying lol
Next up is honest hearts
Courier: * walks into trap set by Elijah. *
Companions: * shrug at each other and then go home just leaving him there *
I suppose if I'm charitable, you could argue all of them get knocked out/disabled but Dog only drags the one person to the Sierra Madre, naturally being the player.
@@MediumRareOpinions So I imagine Ed-E just gets scared?
Considering Ulysses hacks Ed-e multiple times in lonesome road and elijah is a master engineer so it wouldn’t surprise me if he has some way to disable robots through dog’s collar.
If I'm not mistaken wouldn't that line from Elijah about a foster daughter be referring to Veronica not Christine?
Oh no, I meant Veronica 😭😭😭
You can also still trigger some dialogue about Veronica from him. ^^
Wait, its impossible to shoot the bombs from their hands?
So much AP wasted :(
Yup
Holy shit 1 hour of cut content for ONE dlc that shows how much dedication obsidian was
I hope now that Microsoft owns them, just maybe we’ll finally get a good game after FNV, instead of what Bethesda made..
@@grigger7000 Bethesda's Fallouts were good games in my opinion, they just weren't good Fallout games. They lack the passion required to make a good one. It would be a dream come true if Obsidian made another Fallout game or a New Vegas remaster with all the cut content.
@@arcturus4317 Well put. I liked Fallout 3 and 4, I think the way they conceptualized the gameplay (we wouldn't have 3D Fallout w/o 3) was really cool! But the stories feels a little... out of place in the overarching universe.
@@arcturus4317 No one that worked on New Vegas still is with Obsidian.
@@jim-wr3lp Obsidian really hasn't released anything that great since Tyranny
Avellone talks about how Dead Money was supposed to be horror-themed, but I think all the DLCs had plenty of horror elements; Dead Money is a zombie-esque survival horror, Honest Hearts feels like old stories of being stranded in a foreign place and being forced to survive and find your way back to civilization, Old World Blues is both campy 50's sci-fi and genuine body horror, and Lonesome Road is like an apocalypse disaster within an apocalypse. They're all expertly written and to me are genuinely creepy.
agreed.
i second
Fallout: Silent Hill
Fallout: Far Cry
Fallout: Bioshock
Fallout: Day Z
The only thing that lagged a bit for me was Ulysses’ story & dialogue. It felt lackluster. But I loved everything else.
Granted Fallout in general is kinda a horror game
44:13 could this instead be referring to Veronica? She *was* the one with a grandaughter-grandfather relationship with Elijah after all
If you ever have a son name him nick
@Кот Бегемот Скажи Ник Херр вслух - звучит как "негр".
@@Look_Upon_The_Heart You Madlad!
I think they both did.
Fucking great video as always man! Keep up the good work!
watch your langauge; the kids
19:15 The barrel IS actually used as a trap in the escape sequence. Although, it kinda just tips over in front of the player, so it's more of a scenic thing than a trap.
THANK YOU, thought i was the only one thinking that
Honestly, Dead Money definitely has one of my favorite stories in the game and I have always found it's challenge rewarding for that reason. It's always my penultimate quest for that reason too. In general I can flip whether I do Honest Hearts or Old World Blues first, even though HH is really meant to be first. Dead Money though? It's not just the difficulty but, honestly, also that it just feels at home as the penultimate quest before Lonesome Road. A last great challenge, a gauntlet to test your resolve, and a story to tie off the last few side-plot threads before Lonesome Road wraps up the present and The Battle of Hoover Dam puts a bow on it. A part of me will always feel like New Vegas would be just a bit less without it and I'll always appreciate it's inclusion. Honestly, talking about all this kind of makes me want to play it again.
It makes more sense doing DM before OWB though
@@themitheus why?
@@themitheus Not at all, owb references Elijah many times and narratively makes learning about him more interesting.
Isn't the right chronological order of playing the dlc like this? Honest Hearts > Old World Blues > Dead Money > Lonesome Road
@@greengarnish1711 dm is dlc1
"All of it was left on a cutting room floor" is just as iconic phrase now as "War, war never changes".
Both are iconic to Fallout. Unfortunate, for the former.
44:05 Sounds more like he's talking about Veronica there.
He is.
Yup! He is indeed talking about Veronica. I paused just to check the comments about this.
@@Tumbledweeb Same!
Someone should try to restore those cut lines where Elijah scorns you for exploring or sneaking poorly. Thats really immersive
is that a thing yet?
I always got a Bioshock feeling from the DLC, good to know that it influenced it!
I get more of an old school resident evil feel
It felt more like system shock 2 to me, maybe that's just because I'm more familiar with that one than Bioshock. Bioshock's design is more or less a streamlined SS2 anyway
For Elijah's hair they could have just made a duplicate of Caucasian old and added the crazy hair to that race and then set Elijah as that race.
Or just added the hair to the existing race and save space
23:07 Honestly, Dean Domino looked cooler in concept art than in the actual game.
Everyone looks good in concept art.
Love this DLC. Old world casino heist orchestrated by a mad brotherhood scribe? And I'm trapped with a croner Ghoul, Narcissist Super Mutant and Brotherhood assassin? Fuck yes.
I'm always blown away by how well this unfinished mess worked considering how rushed they were
It's really mindblowing that it's such a good game considering everything
You sure about Dean's holo recording being cut? I remember hearing that whole thing, not just the first line, in my game. Same with the "E.B.E." note to Sinclair, I definitely remember reading that one in my game.
Didn't he say it doesn't play right due to an oversight?
@@MegaRazor619 Might be that he meant it was a PlayStation issue. I played on 360 and definitely didn't have that bug.
Y'all ever have Marilyn spawn? I did on the 360 version once. She stayed in the save, but ofc had no dialogue and it's yet to happen again.
@@NintendoSunnyDee I remember the troopers in between forlorn hope and nelson. Legs blown off and groping the air. When I talked to them all they would say was "Kill me...." then it was removed with the first update.
@@hyndquart5241 Oof that's a hard hitting removal
I will die on this hill: anyone who didn't like Dead Money didn't like it because it was the only part of New Vegas that actually punishes you for being bad at it.
I loved dead money but the one thing that drove me off was when I got late into the dlc everything felt like a chore.
Meh. I mostly find it annoying. It's not too hard I just don't like much of the loot you get either. Least favorite of all the dlc. Although the story is cool and liked how they wrapped up Elijah's story, and integrated him into other dlc's
No dead money is a shitty dlc only praised for the slighty above Medicore writing. The speakers kill all the middling fun and the ghost people get stale quickly
It was easy it was just a slog. Didn't like it one bit. Took away all the guns I liked and replaced them with garbage. Only good part was the story.
Lmao I don’t like dead money cause the opposite, it’s challenging until you meet dog then from there it’s a cake walk. Got to install mods to make it harder
Another video from one of my favorite content creators, I can already tell this is gonna be a good one! Keep up the the hard work dude!
This is just more proof that new Vegas needs a remaster. There is so much cut content that could be built on.
@@charlesthoreson4162 there's no reason for it to not be remastered honestly. Pretty much the only game I've seen that people want a remaster for but for some reason Bethesda doesn't want some mad bucks to settle their greed.
Wow you people really hate the idea of a remake. News flash, if you have to comment on someone else's post and say something stupid, you are the real idiot.
What type of person is so insecure that an updated version of a video game would threaten them?
You guys clearly need therapy if this comment is the thing that got you angry. I know not all remakes will be destroy all human level of good, but shut up. You can still play the shittey version, just don't badmouth everyone else who wants the company to get off there lazy asses and make something good.
@@HangOnThereSlick They should remaster both New Vegas & F3 with all the cut content reintroduced to the game.
@@charlesthoreson4162 Charles, it's your grandmother, please get off the interwebs your room smells so bad. You haven't showered in weeks Charles please, you have to throw the poop sock away.
@@M50A1wow you keep commenting out of spite even after a year, man this dlc has the perfect lesson for you, learn to "let go"
I mean, I always figured that Christine was lying, given that she names all the weapon skills lol
Considering all the other mistakes and oversights in the DLC I'm wondering if the ghost worship triggers not being placed is cut content or someone forgetting to place them or not having time to place them.
The two mods in the description, Dead Money Fireworks Fix and Surprise Vending Restoration are included in YUP.
34:42 So Dean is "Where is my hug?" guy.
Another reason to annihilate the prick
I feel Dead Money is a better title than Dead Mans Hand because its more unique and the concept of Dead Money as a gambling term is waaaaaaaay better for the whole "let go" theme the DLC is aiming for
Holy shit I thought this would be a 15 minutes video only to see an hour and fifteen minutes. Right, time to make some tea and put on the big TV screen. It's so nice to see such passion for a great game. There's no words to express the appreciation for your efforts. Thank you.
I can't wait to see a cut content video for Lonesome Road. If it will have enough cut content for an hour long video, that would be great.
Everytime i heard "leaving the gold behind" i scream internaly while saying to myself "not even having both legs broken Will stop me from carrying every single goldbar with me back into the Mojave" because by god i won't Let them go
yeah, it really must have sucked for all those noobs that dont travel light. i managed to carry out about 12 bars with a non str based char.
@@zoltanz288 No, you don't understand...i ALWAYS get every single damn gold bar and i won't leave the sierra madre without them, i didn't came for the adventures, i want my damn gold
@@zoltanz288 LMAO you’re the noob…many people have walked out with all 37 gold bars
@@zoltanz288 a good trick is to strip down and leaver everything you don't need and had weight in a chest when you first go on the basement. Then just grab your stuff on the way out.