I think it’s funny to have a vintage style diver from a brand with no vintage history, yet they’ve managed to do it better than everyone else. All the versions of the divers 65 are extremely well done. I guess I’m in the minority, but I like the 9 o’clock logo. Seems natural to read from left to right, and looks a little different from everyone else.
If you’re referring to this watch , it’s no diver. It’s taking heavy inspiration from the Civilian Pilot/GMT watches of the 1950s and 60s such as the Glycine Airman and the Rolex GMT mentioned in the video. By “pilot” watch I am making a clear distinction from the so called Flieger watches with roots in the 1940s Luftwaffe. These later aviation watches arose from the need during the postwar years - where civilian air travel was becoming much more popular and pilots developed the need to track multiple time zones. Eventually this led to the international convention of tracking all international flights using Greenwich Mean Time. Sorry for the long winded explanation, but yea, this is no diver, it’s an aviation watch.
@@stuartcole4845 The history lesson is nice, but Christopher Ward considers their C65 GMT as part of their dive watch line. It’s more of a dive watch with a GMT complication included.
@@sterlingsilver320 I get what you’re saying but the GMT hand and lack of dive time bezel make it unusable as an actual diver. But yea, it’s their watch, they can market it however they like!
Just received my Trident C60 for my 18th birthday, I absolutely love it. The logo isnt an issue for me and I prefer it to a Longines or a Tag. The quality is second to none and I cannot wait for another purchase, possibly a Khaki King from Hamilton.
I first came across the Christopher Ward brand when I saw one of their adverts in an in-flight magazine - and I immediately coveted their C65 Retro Dive Watch. 6 months later, one of these is one my wrist and it is one of the most treasured watches in my modest collection.
I have No. 0031 on an oyster bracelet and I have been wearing it for about a week now. I love it. While I don't particularly love the 9 o'clock logo I got use to it rather quickly and I'm glad that I did not let it deter me from buying this watch - I would have been missing out on a good thing. This is a very eloquent piece with very practical functionlity. My daily dress ranges from business suits to business casual to jeans and flannels and this watch works with all of it, as most automatic dive watches would. My normal go to watches are a Hamilton Khaki Field automatic at 40mm, a Hamilton Khaki Scuba automatic at 40mm, and a Marathon GSAR automatic on the weekends. My wrist size is just shy of 7" and I had to remove three links from the bracelet on the C65 GMT which uses a pin and collar system and there are five micro-adjustments in the buckle which allow adjustment without a tool. With the shape of the case, the sloped lugs, sloped bezel, and domed crystal the fit is wonderful, better than could have expected! While I could afford a heritage luxury brand I work in the public sector in human services, primarily with homeless veterans, and I think it would be tone deaf to walk around with a Rolex (although I do like the Explorer II) or an Omega when I working with guys that are worried about their next meal or where they are going to spend the night. With this watch I can have it both ways, the look and feel of a luxury piece without the luxury name brand or stigma. And its still a watch that the enthusiasts among us can appreciate. Thank you TGV for the review and thank you C.W. for making this piece!
Very nice.fairly priced for a high quality piece.i agree about the logo,prefered the old style.seeing Christopher Ward written in full makes me think of Daniel Wellington sadly.great review.good work fella.
Well, just make it smaller. If it was a well respected and known watch brand it would not be a problem I think. They will get there eventually if they keep producing great pieces and then this will be a non issue if not a bonus. Their logo is great though so I’m not sure why they don’t promote it more. I think it might be a PR stunt to get the name out there.
This is true but I see it as an opportunity to talk to others about the brand, and this particular watch, and explain that is is not a Daniel Wellington or Michael Kors and why. But most watch enthusiasts are going to know this already.
So true TGV. CW continuously nails it! I own the Trident c60 gmt blk/blk 38mm center logo, the c60 blk/blk 40mm (sword hands), and the c60 blk/red bezel 38mm(sword hands). It would be hard to find a better value per dollar for watches near the $1000 range. The quality is on par with any luxury watches I own and they are some of the most beautiful pieces I’ve seen. The red bezel c60 is absolutely mesmerizing. If you’re contemplating a watch in this price range I suggest you look into these. As you read the comments you’ll notice that CW owners are very loyal to the brand and that’s by no coincidence. You really need to own one to fully appreciate them. And although I like the center logo with London written, I don’t have a problem with the new logo. It actually does balance the dial against the date window and does give a more contemporary look to the watch. Any issues with the location/font are quickly dismissed once you start wearing it.
Agree with your main gripes with the watch: the logo (sigh...) and the unidirectional bezel. My GMTs have bidirectional bezels - 48 click on the Avenger II, 60 click on the 857 UTC - *huge* reason I love these pieces. Another good & honest review, stay well my friend.
Xaviera Yayaell Not sure why people are so against this change. I prefer this to a kind of cheesy look of the old. I get your point about fashion brand and I think it should be more subtle (smaller font or better accented flag and no or minimal text). To me this looks more modern and not trying to scream pretend vintage like before. I miss London text thought but I do understand that having Swiss made and London might be confusing. Also if you dig into company philosophy you will find your comment somehow... silly.
Xaviera Yayaell this aint a fashion watch and you know it if you dont like it thats fair but to call a fashion watch is bullshit michael kors now thats a fashion watch
Love Christopher Ward watches. Incredible quality that punches way above it's price. Makes you wonder how some companies charge so much for their watches.
Chris Wood because some people think higher price = better quality which is true in many cases but also the some people think because they pay super high prices it makes themselves better than others. Stupid but human.
I really love the 60's, modernist design elements throughout the watch. The only thing that I'd change would be the "Christopher Ward" typeface. It's just off enough to bother me, as it looks so ordinary. Other than that, it's a winner - great review, TGV!
I know what you mean, it makes me think of Lego and not the grandeur the brand deserves. But you know what, like you say so rightly say, still a winner. Thank you my friend, I hope you are well. Best regards, TGV
@@theurbangentry Yes, Lego is a good (and hilarious), analogy. I think Hamilton's typefaces are spot on for that sexy 60's vibe, I hope CW will move in that direction as well.
I have to agree with the other commenters. Its an attractive watch but I will never own one as long as the Christopher Ward is spelled out. Better just to have the logo or just "Ward" at the 12 o'clock position. The full name text is just too distracting for me. For the price I would rather go with a Glycine or Hamilton instead. Thanks for another great video!
Just came across this video, And as a product design lecturer the rebrand is hardly as awful as so many people are bellyaching over. That logo has nothing wrong with it, and balances out all the other elements of the dial. The previous logo looks chintzy and stuffy by comparison. Well done Christopher Ward!
One of the best reviews out there, actually talking about the merits of the watch as well as how it performs in the real world. Like the reviewer, I also thought I wanted a 38 mm as a good alternative to the Explorer. Really hope CW is reading this and takes this in consideration, I'd be first in line to buy a 38 mm version of this watch (and yes, they need to keep the GMT functionality).
You know if they just deleted the branding at 9, I'd be all over this, I like most everything else especially the case. I just picked up an Airman 18 purist, should hold me for a while (I hope) Great job, always learn something about the history of these brands with your videos.
Great video, TGV. While I respect Christopher Ward for their achievements and innovation, the branding at 9 o'clock just ruins the watch (and most other Chr. Ward pieces, to be frank) for me. Looking at the comments, it seems I'm not the only one ;) Also, a GMT watch with a unidirectional bezel makes zero sense.
VERY happy to hear that Peter, this may sound silly, but when I hear that good Gentry like yourself fall in love with a new piece, it pleases me greatly. OMG, a bronze version would in insanely cool, nice idea my friend. Thank you, Best regards, TGV
Appreciate this is a older video TGV, but after seeing this and doing my own diligence. I recently picked up the C60 elite and my what a watch for the money. It really is such a competitive piece against other well recognised brands and so great to see a micro brand producing such quality especially in the now COSC sellita movement to which mine only loses a couple of seconds day. Great work, all the best 👍
Their new in-house movement is really quite impressive for the price. I've been going back and forth these last 4 weeks about getting one right now -- there are a few pieces that I REALLY like. However, my Halios Seaforth finally arrived (after having waited many months for it) so I'm not sure I want to go with another smaller brand at the moment. I also want to replace the Omega speedmaster I am selling with another Omega. So, I decided to save the money, wait for another paycheck, and get the omega Railmaster with the silver dial :) I've been lusting over it for a while now, and I can't wait to pull the trigger! C-Ward is coming after that though! Thanks for the review, TGV! Amazing job as always, good sir!
Imagine this in 38-39mm....it would near perfect. It’s gorgeous. Fit and finish is amazing. Great video and how you’ve reviewed it was great. A happy subscriber (with similar size wrists).
From my understanding, the unidirectional feature, is for making you early (if you accidentally move the bezel) but never making you late. Primarily for not staying down too long if diving. But I could be mistaken.
Thanks for the review, while I disagree with you about the logo, I want to say I do appreciate you stating your opinion there and letting it go. So many people rabbit on about the logo being terrible, it seems like they're just saying it because they're supposed to. Again, thanks for the review, this watch is atop my want list for a while now!
Compared to previous iterations of the logo I do find it a turn off and don't feel like I'm supposed to. They did great with the twin flags but destroyed it with the brand name spelled out.
I have been a Christopher Ward fan from the start. (wearing my malvern auto today, actually). I have four of them, but my favorite has to be the Lido, which I picked up as a forum special edition. It's brilliant. I just sent it back for service. In case anyone wonders, they really do have excellent service with a very personal touch. I'm glad that you give them some time, here, because I think they're dreadfully under-appreciated. They went bananas with too many models and variations for awhile, there, but they have slimmed down the lineup and I think the design vision is a lot more focused.
Man, you're going to ruin me. After I discovered your channel, my watch collection went from two (one everyday watch, one dress watch) to 8 and counting. I probably should seek help and have them bill you :-P I love your anti-snobbery take on the watches you review. Your review videos keep getting better and better. This particular watch has been on my radar since it got announced by Chr Ward. Glad you see your review. Keep up the good work. Now if you could just tell me why I *should not* buy a Rolex Explorer 1, my wallet would be very grateful :-D
Great review TGV! Thanks for bringing this one on to the stage. As I mentioned a couple times before I'm a big fan of CW. Yes, I don't like the re-branding as well but as you said it's not a deal breaker for me. What I adore about CW is their very realistic pricing as well as the attention to detail. The crown, the finishing, the quick release strap, the buckle... a lot of things you don't even get on higher end pieces that cost five times more! If you're interested in buying one, subscribe to their newsletter. They send out voucher codes up to 150€ (!) every few months. With them you can save even more money to get one of those beauties! I just hope they will find their unique style in the future and don't only produce watches that satisfy societies current taste.
I’m a big Chr. Ward fan! This timepiece is a superb-looking throwback to the 70s. I have Trident C600s and a Trident Vintage. They’re all excellent quality pieces; just wish they were all the 38mm size of the Vintage. Another great review! The new branding of the logo has definitely grown on me.
I agree with you on the size and the missing London logo and the name. The older version was far better. But I have to say, the watches are very nice...
Great video. I have been waiting for your review of this timepiece. I agree. It's a cracking piece. I actually purchased it several weeks ago. The design is spot on and it wears very well. Having said that if I could change a couple of things, I would rather have a bi directional bezel and a 38 or a 39 mm case diameter. This piece punches far above its price point. It has an understated refinement that really speaks of it's British roots.
So glad to hear you got one Steve, I am totally with you on all points, spot on my friend. If they do a 38mm version I will join you in the CW club again! Thank you, Best regards, TGV
I bought the first Malvern back when CW was just a Micro. They have really upped their game. Come so close to buying so many of their watches. Just waiting for now.
I like everything else, except the screaming loud GMT hand. You have to remind yourself that the big orange thing is not the hour hand. IMO the GMT hand should be more subtle than the hour hand, one that you ignore when you just check the time. A black hand with a little lume dot in the end, for example. That case and case back are nice, and the domed glass fits the watch well.
Hi T Cracking watch but I would give that title to my Glycine Airman GMT Purist No. 1 which was the first GMT watch in history (from 1953). It's got plenty of history and it''s under 1 grand, it tracks 3 timezones and it's 36mm! Thank you. Best regards, Fabio.
Love that one too, deffo in my top GMTs of all time, but then you know that with how much I bang on about the Airman! LOL I so nearly bough it before I went for my Pepsi. Thank you Fabio, Best regards, TGV
I too like the Glycine Airman GMT, its rugged style and heritage, but it doesn't work in a business suite, not for me anyway. The C65 GMT does. They are very different styles.
One watch collection watch? Has everything you need for a daily watch and should last a very long time. I’m also a fan of non screw down crowns on non-divers. Don’t have to worry about threading and so easy to wind whenever you feel like winding it.
Not sure why people are so against this change. I prefer this to a kind of cheesy look of the old. I get your point about fashion brand and I think it should be more subtle (smaller font or better accented flag and no or minimal text). To me this looks more modern and not trying to scream pretend vintage like before. I miss London text thought but I do understand that having Swiss made and London might be confusing.
I've got a Trident classic, superb build quality for the price. Didn't like the logo at first, but it grows on you & I like that its devisive as it keeps my watch exclusive (& anyone into watches can feel & see the difference to fashion brands). Good review 👍👍
@@theurbangentry Tizzy? Stating a preference is a tizzy? I don't like Marmite either. Is that a tizzy? I don't get why a brand would consciously alienate so many potential buyers (me included and I own 7 prior generation Chr Ward watches). I mean, read the comments!
Incredible intro Sir! And not only intro... I don't think so that i will ever stop watching your videos Sir... As always wonderfull! All the best Charlie
These new C65 models have a really nice case design and quality. I had a black-dialled C65 diver, sold it and missed it so much that I picked up a bluedialled version recently. Even at current pricing, these things punch well above their price.
Hi TGV - I've been waiting for a Christopher Ward that speaks to me and this one is shouting "buy me"! I will have to pull the trigger on this one. Thanks for the detailed review that helped me decide. (I do miss the London logo as well). Best Regards, John
I am neither here nor there with the branding issue - it is what it is. But TGV is spot on with his critique of the dial and case design. This watch is impeccably designed and the design is faithfully executed in its manufacture - exquisite. Yes, I would be proud to wear this watch on my wrist.
Beautiful watch! Another fine review, TGV, always a pleasure and informative. I was not a fan of the re-branding myself, but this has helped add a little needed perspective. Definitely considering this time piece for the future.
Beautiful watch, TGV, and reasonably priced. Love the bezel! I think it is bi-directional because it is not a dedicated dive watch. It is a sport/dress watch. Thanks for the review :-)
no, am not sure I understand your explanation regarding the bezel. The issue is that the bezel is NOT bi-directional. It is uni-directional, like all the Christopher Ward Trident dive watches. So if this watch is not a dive watch, specifically, what needs to be explained is why they have maintained a unidirectional bezel.
I really like the look of this watch! It appears to be wonderfully designed. That case! I also agree with you - I prefer the older logo, which included 'London'. I feel you should be proud of your heritage and your tribe. Wear your banner proudly, for all the World to see!
Glad to see Christopher Ward finally getting some well deserved bolstering. This watch is definitely my next purchase from CW. A note about London no longer on the dial. CW himself said in an interview that as they moved their headquarters out of the city, they didn't feel it was appropriate to use it any longer. At least they are honest, and cognizant of not misrepresenting the brand in any way, which is big plus for them as well in my opinion.
The marine chronometer you displayed (Chr. WARD/LONDON) looks very classy! I went to the web site looking for that exact watch and was disappointed to see it was discontinued.
I’m digging the fact that Christopher ward is a British watch brand. I’m happy to see brands like this and bremont starting to catch on. I’m really looking to buy a bremont after a Tudor I’m saving for. Time to bring back some good horological brands to make up for the last 100 years of Swiss dominance. We all love a little competition 😉
Add me into the "love it, but the branding is a deal-breaker" crowd. They make a stunning 38mm blue dial bronze diver that I'd buy in a heartbeat if it weren't for the logo.
@Christopher Wood -MDH- That would make it their loss. If I don't like it, even for just one shortcoming, I don't lose anything when I don't buy. They lose a sale. It would be my loss if I bought it and wasn't happy every time I looked at the logo, knowing I could have spent the money on something else.
Looks like a high quality timepiece at a very reasonable price. I would however like to see the dial without text, and in a 38mm case in person. That strap looks wonderful. Thank you for another wonderful video. The into music takes me back
Yea I will buy the 38mm if they made one in c65 series. I already own the 38mm C60 trident bronze with leather strap and boy what a piece that is with the dark blue dial, contrasted by the agining bronze case complimented by the vintage oak leather strap. Just love it.
19:55 - 19:58 "Perhaps the best Swiss automatic GMT at a thousand dollars" I must be part of a small group but I do really like the Christopher Ward logo, I think the placement is also great. It gives a good contrast to the matte black dial.
Great review of the C65 GMT. I'd seen it on the website and passed it by but your video review makes me seriously reconsider. Perhaps I'll wait for the Pepsi version which is due to be out next year. I have Gen 1, Gen 2 and Geb 3 logo CWs and I don't mind the current version at all. It certainly wouldn't stop me from buying this watch. Nice to see the C7 Apex at the start of the review. That's another CW stunner.
Thanks for another great review TGV. Very tempted by this watch. Beautiful design. Lovely strap. High quality at a fair price. 41mm would normally be too big for me but the short lugs mean it would work. Only real negative, as it is for a number of their watches, is that Christopher Ward text at 9 o'clock. Who thought that was a good move in their rebranding meeting? Oh, and being a Brit (southerner), I too would like to see London still feature on the dial :-)
Great review as always TGV. I love less than 40mm watches especially divers, but there aren't that many "affordable" ones around (affordable in quotation marks because I know it's a very subjective term). Love the look of the Zodiac Seawolf 53 skin and the Christopher Ward mid size offerings although they are a little on the high side of my budget at the moment. Thanks for the great video and a splendid way to spend 20mins on a Sunday morning ⌚👍
Thank you Chris, I love Zodiac, I reached out to them many times. Sadly they do not lend watches in fro review. Oh well, an excuse to finally buy one I guess ;-) Have a great rest of you Sunday. Best regards, TGV
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Great review with a Superb GMT - You will not find one watch everyone likes and says, hey that's 10/10 but with this, my personal feel is that - They nailed it!
This is so frustrating.. I've been looking for a new watch for ages and this one finally ticks all the boxes. But I just can't get over that logo. There is nothing appealing about a logo that looks like it has been created in 5 seconds by opening Word and selecting a random font. It's a shame. They have great watches otherwise. Thanks for the review!
KonfuzeOfficial funny but 2 previous versions seemed like this to me so it’s relative. If you dig why did they use this type of font you will know it’s not 5 seconds job.
I ve been here, thank you for upload this. The Rolex looks stunning. Now Im on the Bremont Waterman GMT. Just an amazing watch in my op. but that is in another price- range .... yep. Have a lovely Sunday guys!
I love Christopher Ward watches.. the only thing that stops me from getting one is that rebranding.. That New Logo kills it for me :( The old logo was perfectly fine.. It is a grand example of "better" being an enemy of "good" They should just put some lume on that pressed in 12 o clock logo and erase that unnecessary 9 o clock caption forever :D \
Great video, I do agree that if they had 38mm this watch would be great although if they do 38mm wouldn't watch be too bulky? Im torn between C.Ward trident diver or Sinn 104's especially they just released a blue dialed 104s!. Thanks for the review
A pleasure as always. Great choices btw, I totally see why you are having a hard time deciding. Hmmmm, well I have to say Sinn, but you know I am very biased there as a 104 owner. I will be addressing the blue 104 soon in fact.. As for the bulkiness of a 38mm, as it is 12mm, I think it would actually be fine, then again, in the flesh it could be a whole different story. Good luck with your decision. Either way, it's win win and it goes without saying, you have great taste ;-) Thank you, Best regards, TGV
Definite similarities with the Airman when looking at the bezel TGV. Very nice looking piece and very tempting price point too. Btw, sounds like someone ‘rubbed a bit of funk’ on that intro. Cool 😎
Great design, value for money and quality looks up there also love the thinkness, if they did a 38m i could for once get past the poor looking CW text/logo last design better but not great has always put me off them as sounds and looks like a fashion brand.
I know it’s a YAWN, but CW’s rebranding was a bloody awful mistake IMHO. It abased otherwise sensational watches to the aesthetic level of “fashion” brands - common as muck. Asymmetric, fairground grab-crane commonplace tedium.
Not sure why people are so against this change. I prefer this to a kind of cheesy look of the old. I get your point about fashion brand and I think it should be more subtle (smaller font or better accented flag and no or minimal text). To me this looks more modern and not trying to scream pretend vintage like before. I miss London text thought but I do understand that having Swiss made and London might be confusing.
I wish this was a screw down crown, size and height is perfect. I actually liked the new logo for christopher ward, it gave people a sporty and young look which fits to Christopher ward cause this is a young brand.
Nice watch, but by no means would I say "Best Swiss made GMT for < 1000". Would ask you to consider as direct competition the Certina GMT DS action Powermatic 80. I especially love the green model. Also has the ETA movement, screwdown crown and is 200M water resistance. All for well under 1000. Would love to hear your opinion on this watch.
It is a nice looking "affordable" mechanical "GMT". I'm chiming in on preferring the old logo, and I think it is a shame it doesn't have a screw down crown, only because It looks like that squared off crown could snag on something the way it hangs out over the slim case sides.
Hey TGV, great Video as always. Your videos got me into mechanical watches! Because of you I am infected!!! By the way. Have you seen the new releases from Sinn during the Fair in Munich? Nice blue dial version of the 104 and also one with a grey dial... Just amazing. Please get your hands on them and present them! Greetings, Frankie
I think it’s funny to have a vintage style diver from a brand with no vintage history, yet they’ve managed to do it better than everyone else. All the versions of the divers 65 are extremely well done.
I guess I’m in the minority, but I like the 9 o’clock logo. Seems natural to read from left to right, and looks a little different from everyone else.
I like it because nobody else does that. It stands out.
If you’re referring to this watch , it’s no diver. It’s taking heavy inspiration from the Civilian Pilot/GMT watches of the 1950s and 60s such as the Glycine Airman and the Rolex GMT mentioned in the video. By “pilot” watch I am making a clear distinction from the so called Flieger watches with roots in the 1940s Luftwaffe. These later aviation watches arose from the need during the postwar years - where civilian air travel was becoming much more popular and pilots developed the need to track multiple time zones. Eventually this led to the international convention of tracking all international flights using Greenwich Mean Time. Sorry for the long winded explanation, but yea, this is no diver, it’s an aviation watch.
@@stuartcole4845 The history lesson is nice, but Christopher Ward considers their C65 GMT as part of their dive watch line. It’s more of a dive watch with a GMT complication included.
@@sterlingsilver320 I get what you’re saying but the GMT hand and lack of dive time bezel make it unusable as an actual diver. But yea, it’s their watch, they can market it however they like!
one of the most gorgeous watches this year, I don't know what all the fuss with the logo is about. Personally I like them both, old and new.
Just received my Trident C60 for my 18th birthday, I absolutely love it. The logo isnt an issue for me and I prefer it to a Longines or a Tag. The quality is second to none and I cannot wait for another purchase, possibly a Khaki King from Hamilton.
I first came across the Christopher Ward brand when I saw one of their adverts in an in-flight magazine - and I immediately coveted their C65 Retro Dive Watch. 6 months later, one of these is one my wrist and it is one of the most treasured watches in my modest collection.
I wish it had the CHR. WARD at the top. I can’t do the name on the 9 o’clock position. I know, it’s picky, but I like what I like.
IMHO, Chr.WARD looked like COWARD:))
I have No. 0031 on an oyster bracelet and I have been wearing it for about a week now. I love it. While I don't particularly love the 9 o'clock logo I got use to it rather quickly and I'm glad that I did not let it deter me from buying this watch - I would have been missing out on a good thing. This is a very eloquent piece with very practical functionlity. My daily dress ranges from business suits to business casual to jeans and flannels and this watch works with all of it, as most automatic dive watches would. My normal go to watches are a Hamilton Khaki Field automatic at 40mm, a Hamilton Khaki Scuba automatic at 40mm, and a Marathon GSAR automatic on the weekends. My wrist size is just shy of 7" and I had to remove three links from the bracelet on the C65 GMT which uses a pin and collar system and there are five micro-adjustments in the buckle which allow adjustment without a tool. With the shape of the case, the sloped lugs, sloped bezel, and domed crystal the fit is wonderful, better than could have expected! While I could afford a heritage luxury brand I work in the public sector in human services, primarily with homeless veterans, and I think it would be tone deaf to walk around with a Rolex (although I do like the Explorer II) or an Omega when I working with guys that are worried about their next meal or where they are going to spend the night. With this watch I can have it both ways, the look and feel of a luxury piece without the luxury name brand or stigma. And its still a watch that the enthusiasts among us can appreciate. Thank you TGV for the review and thank you C.W. for making this piece!
Very nice.fairly priced for a high quality piece.i agree about the logo,prefered the old style.seeing Christopher Ward written in full makes me think of Daniel Wellington sadly.great review.good work fella.
Now you mention it, I totally see what you mean.
Thank you Rick, well observed.
Best regards,
TGV
Well, just make it smaller. If it was a well respected and known watch brand it would not be a problem I think. They will get there eventually if they keep producing great pieces and then this will be a non issue if not a bonus. Their logo is great though so I’m not sure why they don’t promote it more. I think it might be a PR stunt to get the name out there.
This is true but I see it as an opportunity to talk to others about the brand, and this particular watch, and explain that is is not a Daniel Wellington or Michael Kors and why. But most watch enthusiasts are going to know this already.
So true TGV. CW continuously nails it! I own the Trident c60 gmt blk/blk 38mm center logo, the c60 blk/blk 40mm (sword hands), and the c60 blk/red bezel 38mm(sword hands). It would be hard to find a better value per dollar for watches near the $1000 range. The quality is on par with any luxury watches I own and they are some of the most beautiful pieces I’ve seen. The red bezel c60 is absolutely mesmerizing. If you’re contemplating a watch in this price range I suggest you look into these. As you read the comments you’ll notice that CW owners are very loyal to the brand and that’s by no coincidence. You really need to own one to fully appreciate them. And although I like the center logo with London written, I don’t have a problem with the new logo. It actually does balance the dial against the date window and does give a more contemporary look to the watch. Any issues with the location/font are quickly dismissed once you start wearing it.
Agree with your main gripes with the watch: the logo (sigh...) and the unidirectional bezel. My GMTs have bidirectional bezels - 48 click on the Avenger II, 60 click on the 857 UTC - *huge* reason I love these pieces. Another good & honest review, stay well my friend.
The 'Christopher Ward' text kills it. Logo only would be sufficient and more pleasing to the eye.
Agree shame because great design and the quality seems very good.
It's an overpriced fashion watch. End of.
Xaviera Yayaell Not sure why people are so against this change. I prefer this to a kind of cheesy look of the old. I get your point about fashion brand and I think it should be more subtle (smaller font or better accented flag and no or minimal text). To me this looks more modern and not trying to scream pretend vintage like before. I miss London text thought but I do understand that having Swiss made and London might be confusing. Also if you dig into company philosophy you will find your comment somehow... silly.
Xaviera Yayaell this aint a fashion watch and you know it if you dont like it thats fair but to call a fashion watch is bullshit michael kors now thats a fashion watch
Totally agree, love the flag logo but the text overkill branding is such a turn off for a watch that is otherwise pretty pleasing.
Love Christopher Ward watches. Incredible quality that punches way above it's price. Makes you wonder how some companies charge so much for their watches.
Chris Wood because some people think higher price = better quality which is true in many cases but also the some people think because they pay super high prices it makes themselves better than others. Stupid but human.
I really love the 60's, modernist design elements throughout the watch. The only thing that I'd change would be the "Christopher Ward" typeface. It's just off enough to bother me, as it looks so ordinary. Other than that, it's a winner - great review, TGV!
I know what you mean, it makes me think of Lego and not the grandeur the brand deserves.
But you know what, like you say so rightly say, still a winner.
Thank you my friend, I hope you are well.
Best regards,
TGV
@@theurbangentry Yes, Lego is a good (and hilarious), analogy. I think Hamilton's typefaces are spot on for that sexy 60's vibe, I hope CW will move in that direction as well.
Yes, you are right about the London logo of days gone by. Wish they would would have kept it.
I have to agree with the other commenters. Its an attractive watch but I will never own one as long as the Christopher Ward is spelled out. Better just to have the logo or just "Ward" at the 12 o'clock position. The full name text is just too distracting for me. For the price I would rather go with a Glycine or Hamilton instead. Thanks for another great video!
Just came across this video, And as a product design lecturer the rebrand is hardly as awful as so many people are bellyaching over. That logo has nothing wrong with it, and balances out all the other elements of the dial. The previous logo looks chintzy and stuffy by comparison. Well done Christopher Ward!
One of the best reviews out there, actually talking about the merits of the watch as well as how it performs in the real world. Like the reviewer, I also thought I wanted a 38 mm as a good alternative to the Explorer. Really hope CW is reading this and takes this in consideration, I'd be first in line to buy a 38 mm version of this watch (and yes, they need to keep the GMT functionality).
You know if they just deleted the branding at 9, I'd be all over this, I like most everything else especially the case. I just picked up an Airman 18 purist, should hold me for a while (I hope) Great job, always learn something about the history of these brands with your videos.
You started saying it at 19:53. And I will say the placement of the date balances out the branding.
Great video, TGV. While I respect Christopher Ward for their achievements and innovation, the branding at 9 o'clock just ruins the watch (and most other Chr. Ward pieces, to be frank) for me. Looking at the comments, it seems I'm not the only one ;) Also, a GMT watch with a unidirectional bezel makes zero sense.
Amazing watch and as the proud owner of three of their timepieces I can safely say that I love their faces and the branding!
I absolutely love this piece, I've never taken much notice of CW before but this really works for me. I'd love to see a bronze version.
VERY happy to hear that Peter, this may sound silly, but when I hear that good Gentry like yourself fall in love with a new piece, it pleases me greatly.
OMG, a bronze version would in insanely cool, nice idea my friend.
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
Just bought one on a bracelet. Loving it. My new beater, has come off my wrist for sleeping only.
So happy to see you reviewing CW again. Cheers!
So glad to hear, very happy to do it too. They really have stepped up their game considerably, I could not ignore it.
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
The Urban Gentry Agee! Great size too.
Appreciate this is a older video TGV, but after seeing this and doing my own diligence. I recently picked up the C60 elite and my what a watch for the money. It really is such a competitive piece against other well recognised brands and so great to see a micro brand producing such quality especially in the now COSC sellita movement to which mine only loses a couple of seconds day. Great work, all the best 👍
Their new in-house movement is really quite impressive for the price. I've been going back and forth these last 4 weeks about getting one right now -- there are a few pieces that I REALLY like. However, my Halios Seaforth finally arrived (after having waited many months for it) so I'm not sure I want to go with another smaller brand at the moment. I also want to replace the Omega speedmaster I am selling with another Omega. So, I decided to save the money, wait for another paycheck, and get the omega Railmaster with the silver dial :) I've been lusting over it for a while now, and I can't wait to pull the trigger! C-Ward is coming after that though! Thanks for the review, TGV! Amazing job as always, good sir!
Proud I bought my c60 trident pro 600 in 38mm with old logo.
(Thanks to your video, back in the time).
It has now 2 years ☺
Imagine this in 38-39mm....it would near perfect. It’s gorgeous. Fit and finish is amazing. Great video and how you’ve reviewed it was great. A happy subscriber (with similar size wrists).
From my understanding, the unidirectional feature, is for making you early (if you accidentally move the bezel) but never making you late. Primarily for not staying down too long if diving. But I could be mistaken.
Thanks for the review, while I disagree with you about the logo, I want to say I do appreciate you stating your opinion there and letting it go. So many people rabbit on about the logo being terrible, it seems like they're just saying it because they're supposed to. Again, thanks for the review, this watch is atop my want list for a while now!
Compared to previous iterations of the logo I do find it a turn off and don't feel like I'm supposed to. They did great with the twin flags but destroyed it with the brand name spelled out.
@@vjarena I couldn't wear the previous logo, it looks so cheap to me.
I have been a Christopher Ward fan from the start. (wearing my malvern auto today, actually). I have four of them, but my favorite has to be the Lido, which I picked up as a forum special edition. It's brilliant. I just sent it back for service. In case anyone wonders, they really do have excellent service with a very personal touch. I'm glad that you give them some time, here, because I think they're dreadfully under-appreciated. They went bananas with too many models and variations for awhile, there, but they have slimmed down the lineup and I think the design vision is a lot more focused.
Man, you're going to ruin me. After I discovered your channel, my watch collection went from two (one everyday watch, one dress watch) to 8 and counting. I probably should seek help and have them bill you :-P I love your anti-snobbery take on the watches you review. Your review videos keep getting better and better. This particular watch has been on my radar since it got announced by Chr Ward. Glad you see your review. Keep up the good work.
Now if you could just tell me why I *should not* buy a Rolex Explorer 1, my wallet would be very grateful :-D
Great review TGV! Thanks for bringing this one on to the stage. As I mentioned a couple times before I'm a big fan of CW. Yes, I don't like the re-branding as well but as you said it's not a deal breaker for me. What I adore about CW is their very realistic pricing as well as the attention to detail. The crown, the finishing, the quick release strap, the buckle... a lot of things you don't even get on higher end pieces that cost five times more! If you're interested in buying one, subscribe to their newsletter. They send out voucher codes up to 150€ (!) every few months. With them you can save even more money to get one of those beauties!
I just hope they will find their unique style in the future and don't only produce watches that satisfy societies current taste.
I’m a big Chr. Ward fan! This timepiece is a superb-looking throwback to the 70s. I have Trident C600s and a Trident Vintage. They’re all excellent quality pieces; just wish they were all the 38mm size of the Vintage. Another great review! The new branding of the logo has definitely grown on me.
I agree with you on the size and the missing London logo and the name. The older version was far better. But I have to say, the watches are very nice...
I love Christopher Ward, very good quality and service. Your taste for matching straps to watches is impeccable.
I am so happy to see a proper watch review video again, its been a long time, thank you for that :)
Great video. I have been waiting for your review of this timepiece. I agree. It's a cracking piece. I actually purchased it several weeks ago. The design is spot on and it wears very well. Having said that if I could change a couple of things, I would rather have a bi directional bezel and a 38 or a 39 mm case diameter. This piece punches far above its price point. It has an understated refinement that really speaks of it's British roots.
So glad to hear you got one Steve, I am totally with you on all points, spot on my friend.
If they do a 38mm version I will join you in the CW club again!
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
Mine is No. 0031 and I am loving it!
I bought the first Malvern back when CW was just a Micro. They have really upped their game. Come so close to buying so many of their watches. Just waiting for now.
I like everything else, except the screaming loud GMT hand. You have to remind yourself that the big orange thing is not the hour hand. IMO the GMT hand should be more subtle than the hour hand, one that you ignore when you just check the time. A black hand with a little lume dot in the end, for example. That case and case back are nice, and the domed glass fits the watch well.
esa062 That would part of the vintage watch look there after. If it was black it would be hard to quickly glance and tell the second time zone.
Hi T
Cracking watch but I would give that title to my Glycine Airman GMT Purist No. 1 which was the first GMT watch in history (from 1953). It's got plenty of history and it''s under 1 grand, it tracks 3 timezones and it's 36mm!
Thank you.
Best regards,
Fabio.
Love that one too, deffo in my top GMTs of all time, but then you know that with how much I bang on about the Airman! LOL
I so nearly bough it before I went for my Pepsi.
Thank you Fabio,
Best regards,
TGV
I too like the Glycine Airman GMT, its rugged style and heritage, but it doesn't work in a business suite, not for me anyway. The C65 GMT does. They are very different styles.
One watch collection watch? Has everything you need for a daily watch and should last a very long time.
I’m also a fan of non screw down crowns on non-divers. Don’t have to worry about threading and so easy to wind whenever you feel like winding it.
I feel better with the screw down. Only one of my everyday watches has it, zero worries.
Remove the Christopher Ward text from the dial and it is near perfect.
I agree. Maybe just a nice script of "CW" to balance the date.
Just fill the logo in the same Lume and remove the text logo
the brandname on the left wouldnt be a dealbreaker for me but agree would be better without
Yes. Would it have been so tough to change 'Chr. Ward' to 'C. Ward'?
Not sure why people are so against this change. I prefer this to a kind of cheesy look of the old. I get your point about fashion brand and I think it should be more subtle (smaller font or better accented flag and no or minimal text). To me this looks more modern and not trying to scream pretend vintage like before. I miss London text thought but I do understand that having Swiss made and London might be confusing.
I've got a Trident classic, superb build quality for the price. Didn't like the logo at first, but it grows on you & I like that its devisive as it keeps my watch exclusive (& anyone into watches can feel & see the difference to fashion brands). Good review 👍👍
Thank you for sharing that sir, enjoy your Trident.
Amazing how so many get in a tizzy over the new logo, so true what you say.
Best regards,
TGV
@@theurbangentry Tizzy? Stating a preference is a tizzy? I don't like Marmite either. Is that a tizzy? I don't get why a brand would consciously alienate so many potential buyers (me included and I own 7 prior generation Chr Ward watches). I mean, read the comments!
Incredible intro Sir!
And not only intro... I don't think so that i will ever stop watching your videos Sir...
As always wonderfull!
All the best
Charlie
That logo looks like a caption that would appear on a video screen but it’s not supposed to be there. But otherwise, beautiful watch!!
These new C65 models have a really nice case design and quality. I had a black-dialled C65 diver, sold it and missed it so much that I picked up a bluedialled version recently. Even at current pricing, these things punch well above their price.
Hi TGV - I've been waiting for a Christopher Ward that speaks to me and this one is shouting "buy me"! I will have to pull the trigger on this one. Thanks for the detailed review that helped me decide. (I do miss the London logo as well). Best Regards, John
I got me this one on the bracelet and I love it, it’s in my weekly rotation and I don’t want to miss it.
I am neither here nor there with the branding issue - it is what it is. But TGV is spot on with his critique of the dial and case design. This watch is impeccably designed and the design is faithfully executed in its manufacture - exquisite. Yes, I would be proud to wear this watch on my wrist.
Beautiful watch! Another fine review, TGV, always a pleasure and informative. I was not a fan of the re-branding myself, but this has helped add a little needed perspective. Definitely considering this time piece for the future.
Beautiful watch, TGV, and reasonably priced. Love the bezel! I think it is bi-directional because it is not a dedicated dive watch. It is a sport/dress watch. Thanks for the review :-)
no, am not sure I understand your explanation regarding the bezel. The issue is that the bezel is NOT bi-directional. It is uni-directional, like all the Christopher Ward Trident dive watches. So if this watch is not a dive watch, specifically, what needs to be explained is why they have maintained a unidirectional bezel.
The bezel is uni-directional like a diver (I have one), you might want to watch that part of the video again.
I really like the look of this watch! It appears to be wonderfully designed. That case! I also agree with you - I prefer the older logo, which included 'London'. I feel you should be proud of your heritage and your tribe. Wear your banner proudly, for all the World to see!
I see my wrist shot from my review on the Christopher Ward Forum made a cameo appearance at 4:12.
I've got No. 0031
Glad to see Christopher Ward finally getting some well deserved bolstering. This watch is definitely my next purchase from CW. A note about London no longer on the dial. CW himself said in an interview that as they moved their headquarters out of the city, they didn't feel it was appropriate to use it any longer. At least they are honest, and cognizant of not misrepresenting the brand in any way, which is big plus for them as well in my opinion.
Gorgeous! That bezel reminds me of the speedmaster/ Tudor black bay steel style. Keepin it Classy Gov’na!
Thank you good sir!
Very true, now you mention it, it totally does remind me of the Tudor too.
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
The marine chronometer you displayed (Chr. WARD/LONDON) looks very classy! I went to the web site looking for that exact watch and was disappointed to see it was discontinued.
Just bought the C60 trident titanium pro 600 absolutely love it so happy 😀
I’m digging the fact that Christopher ward is a British watch brand. I’m happy to see brands like this and bremont starting to catch on. I’m really looking to buy a bremont after a Tudor I’m saving for. Time to bring back some good horological brands to make up for the last 100 years of Swiss dominance. We all love a little competition 😉
Add me into the "love it, but the branding is a deal-breaker" crowd. They make a stunning 38mm blue dial bronze diver that I'd buy in a heartbeat if it weren't for the logo.
@Christopher Wood -MDH- That would make it their loss. If I don't like it, even for just one shortcoming, I don't lose anything when I don't buy. They lose a sale. It would be my loss if I bought it and wasn't happy every time I looked at the logo, knowing I could have spent the money on something else.
The aesthetics are fine to me. The lume is great. I appreciate the simplicity of crown and making adjustments. Thanks for another wonderful review.
Looks like a high quality timepiece at a very reasonable price. I would however like to see the dial without text, and in a 38mm case in person. That strap looks wonderful. Thank you for another wonderful video. The into music takes me back
Yea I will buy the 38mm if they made one in c65 series. I already own the 38mm C60 trident bronze with leather strap and boy what a piece that is with the dark blue dial, contrasted by the agining bronze case complimented by the vintage oak leather strap. Just love it.
19:55 - 19:58
"Perhaps the best Swiss automatic GMT at a thousand dollars"
I must be part of a small group but I do really like the Christopher Ward logo, I think the placement is also great. It gives a good contrast to the matte black dial.
Beautiful, tasteful and elegant. This is a ‘must have’.
This piece is also available as a dress piece without the rotating bezel and gmt hand. the size is 38mm. Looks great too
Great review of the C65 GMT. I'd seen it on the website and passed it by but your video review makes me seriously reconsider. Perhaps I'll wait for the Pepsi version which is due to be out next year. I have Gen 1, Gen 2 and Geb 3 logo CWs and I don't mind the current version at all. It certainly wouldn't stop me from buying this watch. Nice to see the C7 Apex at the start of the review. That's another CW stunner.
Love the second hand, and it wouldn't be an Urban Gentry video without the NYPD
Thanks for another great review TGV. Very tempted by this watch. Beautiful design. Lovely strap. High quality at a fair price. 41mm would normally be too big for me but the short lugs mean it would work. Only real negative, as it is for a number of their watches, is that Christopher Ward text at 9 o'clock. Who thought that was a good move in their rebranding meeting? Oh, and being a Brit (southerner), I too would like to see London still feature on the dial :-)
Another great review. Lovely watch, especially with the GMT function. Clean and elegant look.
Never have I ever clicked faster on a TGV video
Oh TGV I love seeing your videos in my notifications.
Great review as always TGV. I love less than 40mm watches especially divers, but there aren't that many "affordable" ones around (affordable in quotation marks because I know it's a very subjective term). Love the look of the Zodiac Seawolf 53 skin and the Christopher Ward mid size offerings although they are a little on the high side of my budget at the moment. Thanks for the great video and a splendid way to spend 20mins on a Sunday morning ⌚👍
Thank you Chris,
I love Zodiac, I reached out to them many times. Sadly they do not lend watches in fro review.
Oh well, an excuse to finally buy one I guess ;-)
Have a great rest of you Sunday.
Best regards,
TGV
if only ads could bee as interesting and captivating as this presentation that yes EYE enjoyed! Checked and for some RE SON didn't have a CW fave SET. EYE will CON TIN YOU to enjoy the finer aspects of a truly informed and creative producer as yourself.
Great review with a Superb GMT - You will not find one watch everyone likes and says, hey that's 10/10 but with this, my personal feel is that - They nailed it!
This is so frustrating.. I've been looking for a new watch for ages and this one finally ticks all the boxes. But I just can't get over that logo. There is nothing appealing about a logo that looks like it has been created in 5 seconds by opening Word and selecting a random font. It's a shame. They have great watches otherwise. Thanks for the review!
KonfuzeOfficial funny but 2 previous versions seemed like this to me so it’s relative. If you dig why did they use this type of font you will know it’s not 5 seconds job.
The logo is crazy bad. Puts me off every time I'm about to pull the trigger and buy one.
You mean you've been looking for a new watch for donkeys.
For donkeys.
The "Cristopher Ward" branding makes it look like a fashion watch, such a shame.
Yeah, just like Frederique Constant, Maurice Lacroix and Vacheron Constatin. Haha.
@@sjegor6635 True. Jaeger LeCoultre even have two blokes' names on the dial
And Patek Philippe.. all those fashion watches 🤔
I ve been here, thank you for upload this.
The Rolex looks stunning. Now Im on the Bremont Waterman GMT. Just an amazing watch in my op. but that is in another price- range .... yep.
Have a lovely Sunday guys!
I love Christopher Ward watches.. the only thing that stops me from getting one is that rebranding.. That New Logo kills it for me :( The old logo was perfectly fine.. It is a grand example of "better" being an enemy of "good" They should just put some lume on that pressed in 12 o clock logo and erase that unnecessary 9 o clock caption forever :D
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Agreed. Beautiful watch. But I'm still having trouble deciding between the CW and a Bell & Ross GMT BR123, or the Sinn 171 Compass GMT. Any thoughts?
Man that watch is gorgeous, but I agree that the Christopher Ward text is unfortunate.
Christopher Ward offers the best value in the price range in my opinion - ahead of Tissot, Mido, Hamilton
Great video, I do agree that if they had 38mm this watch would be great although if they do 38mm wouldn't watch be too bulky? Im torn between C.Ward trident diver or Sinn 104's especially they just released a blue dialed 104s!. Thanks for the review
A pleasure as always.
Great choices btw, I totally see why you are having a hard time deciding.
Hmmmm, well I have to say Sinn, but you know I am very biased there as a 104 owner. I will be addressing the blue 104 soon in fact.. As for the bulkiness of a 38mm, as it is 12mm, I think it would actually be fine, then again, in the flesh it could be a whole different story. Good luck with your decision. Either way, it's win win and it goes without saying, you have great taste ;-)
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
I was wearing my C. Ward today.... heard of them first here!
Awesome watch all the way around. Look , size and price it’s just perfect almost.
What do you think about the MIDO MULTIFORT chronograph, the orange one?? Also automatic. Thanks!
Have two CWs and now this GMT will be added to the list. Good review!
Definite similarities with the Airman when looking at the bezel TGV. Very nice looking piece and very tempting price point too. Btw, sounds like someone ‘rubbed a bit of funk’ on that intro. Cool 😎
Got the bronze 65. I agree the quality is great and you don't notice the 9 o'clock branding. It's a quality watch but not getting much wrist time
just got the rubber strap...much better for the hot climate...now for some serious wrist time
Great design, value for money and quality looks up there also love the thinkness, if they did a 38m i could for once get past the poor looking CW text/logo last design better but not great has always put me off them as sounds and looks like a fashion brand.
They do make the C60 GMT in 38mm
@@dustindodge5974 Thanks will take a look 👍
hello did that strap come with the watch as it offsets the orange hand nicely dont understand its not a screwdown crown when it has a150m rating
I actually was looking at their divers...they come in 38mm only in the black or white dials....lovely GMT though....
I know it’s a YAWN, but CW’s rebranding was a bloody awful mistake IMHO. It abased otherwise sensational watches to the aesthetic level of “fashion” brands - common as muck. Asymmetric, fairground grab-crane commonplace tedium.
Not sure why people are so against this change. I prefer this to a kind of cheesy look of the old. I get your point about fashion brand and I think it should be more subtle (smaller font or better accented flag and no or minimal text). To me this looks more modern and not trying to scream pretend vintage like before. I miss London text thought but I do understand that having Swiss made and London might be confusing.
Abuse of the English language isn’t quite called for either, talk about beating a dead horse.
@@daa3417 So because it's been discussed before and people still don't accept the new look, it's beating a dead horse. Got it.
Except for this model imho
Last night I ordered this watch with steel bracelet and added this leather strap and the khaki webbing strap as well.
I wish this was a screw down crown, size and height is perfect. I actually liked the new logo for christopher ward, it gave people a sporty and young look which fits to Christopher ward cause this is a young brand.
The general consensus makes me sad and I agree. One of the worst rebranding decisions in watch history. :(
Looks like it costs 4x as much. Nice review. Thanks for always bringing us new watches to sample TGV.
Nice watch, but by no means would I say "Best Swiss made GMT for < 1000". Would ask you to consider as direct competition the Certina GMT DS action Powermatic 80. I especially love the green model. Also has the ETA movement, screwdown crown and is 200M water resistance. All for well under 1000. Would love to hear your opinion on this watch.
what's your thoughts about this two watches, vostok dual time GAZ-14, and Orient SDJ00002W
It is a nice looking "affordable" mechanical "GMT". I'm chiming in on preferring the old logo, and I think it is a shame it doesn't have a screw down crown, only because It looks like that squared off crown could snag on something the way it hangs out over the slim case sides.
Hey TGV, great Video as always. Your videos got me into mechanical watches! Because of you I am infected!!!
By the way. Have you seen the new releases from Sinn during the Fair in Munich? Nice blue dial version of the 104 and also one with a grey dial... Just amazing. Please get your hands on them and present them!
Greetings,
Frankie