I've played with 6 just last weekend, and it is one of the best 6 player games I've played. It still works great, one of the best 6 player games I could suggest.
"Lazy Susan" is a term without clear origins, and a cultural myth exists claiming Thomas Jefferson invented it and named it after his daughter, who complained that she was always served last at meals and so was always hungry. Modern etymologists do seem to largely agree that it's more likely that "Susan" was a common generic name for a female servant in upper class homes, and laziness was a common complaint about servants among rich people, so calling a device like that a "lazy Susan" would have been a sarcastic reference to this simple device doing the servant's job for her.
The box needed to be a few cm taller. There is a guide on where to put all the pieces from the publisher, but they really need to include them in the box so people don't have to go searching for them.
So glad you loved this game! I also love playing it. A couple rules points- 1) when you take a Meteorite off your planet it is not worth three points, you must collect three Meteorites to gain one victory point. 2) the SUSAN has 12 different polyomino spots in it. Each section of two polyominos- smaller area on top, larger below it- is called a Depot- thus six Depots to select from. One of the ways the game ends is when a Depot runs out of tiles- not just one spot of the twelve. The trays are great! The one you showed has matching areas on both ends- for Meteorites and Lifepods. The six rectangles in the middle are not for cards- they are meant to place all five different resource trackers per player in their own separate place- so you can just grab all five to stock your Corporation Board. The other tray has a spot for the first player token, two small angled spots for the Depot Indicators, and the rovers go on the other end of the tray. On this tray there are three areas for the cards: Event, Civ and Objective. The last large area across from cards is for the Biomass tiles. Yes, they should have put a sheet in on this!! I also threw away the bottom tray and my game fits well in the box. I love the SUSAN. Awesome. I also got the 12 optional neoprene planet mats and these are really cool for this game. Same brightness, two sided with planets on both sides, but the polyominos don't slide out of place as easily. Super nice upgrade. I highly recommend them, but they DO have to be stored separately! I played a six player game at GenCon and it was great. We did run out of a Depot first- before anyone filled their planet. The more players, the less control you have in filling your planet. This makes for very interesting, different play because you must use different strategies with many players. Lastly, when you score the planet you score every completed (no Meteorites) row AND column for a total of 40 points possible on the generic planet KSB-4156 (one side of each of the 12 dual sided planets is the generic planet, other side is 12 different planets for more variety). This game is my current favorite. It's just great!!
He usually says that if he's about to knock a particular aspect of the game. If someone hears the negativity, they might stop watching. Sometimes it's easy to make nitpicking sound like big negatives especially for viewers who don't have the same perspective and experience as enthusiasts. So, they don't have a good method of understanding the weight of the review's comments.
this feels like the kind of game that should have been picked up by Z-Man or AEG and produced (and streamlined, especially in terms of rulebook) properly, rather than kickstarted. Imagine it with a Cryo-level production...
I agree with pretty much everything Tom said in his review, an absolutely excellent game! I bought game mats for all the planets, which is also really nice (though a bit harder to read the point numbers on). Love the game, even though there are some quality issues with the components and rulebook.
@@Gregthegreat88 The mats do fit in the box, but it's nevertheless hard to fit everything in the box (which seems to be a problem even without the mats). I still love the mats though... :-)
This is the polyomino game for my collection. The minor issues don’t bother me and the game was getting compliments from my friends during our first playthrough which was great! Great review, hit everything good and bad but highlighted how replayable it is with a streamlined system.
When i played this game online like... 2 o 3 years ago (i don't remember) I LOVE IT SOOOO MUCH. that i was eaiting to buy it (well, at that time i can't afford the backup on the Kickstarter bc, wel... Uni student) Now, at the present, i am waiting my copy to arrive 🤩🤩🤩
* I see the update on canceling the retail version now. Still curious about the hobby edition.. Where can I find info on this? The recent update on the KS page says, "we do plan to enter into distribution with a hobby edition around August 2022 with the SKU adjustment decision...." I was assuming a hobby edition would be different from the deluxe. Asking because I can get a deluxe edition now but if it's the same as the retail, then I may wait.
In the updates on kickstarter the difference seems to be 6 additional planet boards, 2 extra corporation boards and wooden meteor and life pods not plastic minis. Foe me, this makes the retail pretty much identical as it has the gametrayz, lazy susan rover minis and enough planet and corporation variety. Also the box lid should close properly in a second run with slightly less stuff inside 😁
Spot on review! The game play is stellar. The quality issues are really pretty minor and disappear once you start playing. I also took out the bottom tray and my deluxe box now closes to within 2 mm of full closure; not enough to be a concern.
Hadara and Planet Unknown share commonalities in that they are both games I played first at cons, both games I immediately said "I HAVE to buy this," and now almost 3 years after backing Planet Unknown (frakking Covid), my copy has finally arrived. 2 great games.
Played it 6 player a few weeks ago and it played really smoothly and was a blast. The component wash was terrible and I soaked mine in 91% Alcohol over night to remove most of it. I may paint them up. The box thing, yes a shame, but the game play more than makes up for the oversight. Great game for a first time publisher and hope they do many more as I'm sure they have also learned allot from the campaign. I assume a reprint will be made in the future.
I'm absolutely terrible at polyomino games but my group found this one to be really fun. We like space themes and even though I'm bad at this one, I really really enjoyed it.
One thing that Tom didn't mention but he showed was that the single pieces don't actually fit into single slots on the board sometimes. They have to lay on top of other tiles. That really annoyed me as much as everything not fitting in the box. But really enjoy the game.
Isle of cats has the same issue. You have to flip some of the tiles in order for them to fit together properly sometimes. Scaling them just a tiny bit would fix it. Alternatively, you can always sand the edges skittles and it does the trick
Played it at 3 players over the weekend and we had a great time. The components with the deluxe package were a little disappointing but happy the gameplay is so good.
I need to get this. By the way, there is a charming short (like 5 minutes long) called "Lazy Susan | A Short Film Comedy on the Untold History of a Famous Inventor." It's pretty funny and on YT.
This game is getting such rave reviews and I’ve been searching for it since early 2023. After much searching, I’ve placed an overpriced order but can’t wait to get it. In addition to great game mechanics, it seems perfect to be able to accommodate solo mode to 6 players. Our game group has grown and it eliminates the 4 player or less games. So, I’m really excited about this game. Love the lazy Susan concept and that there is no down time for players. I suspect it’s going to the top of the game list, like Ticket to Ride.
My barnes and noble had it today! And 2 more copies. I don't usually purchase games there, but had to since no one else seems to have this game right now. Maybe try checking your local barnes and noble. Best of luck!
I think Tom did not get the events. Going down a track can be good and interesting because you get to pick the bonus (for example a civ card) again when you go up again. Also you can leave the red events out and then you only get positive stuff and an alternative end game trigger which i find nice. I would at least suggest trying them one more time without the bag ones
You dont regain Civ cards, i believe. Theyre like factory cards in Scythe in that there’s 1 per plaayer +1, so everyone gets one and will have some options when choosing
There is some with some of the tech abilities and final goal competition and polyomino choice. I do like some solitaire games though; adding some folks around to chat to makes them better.
Sorry for you, excepted if someone want to sell his copy, it's only Kickstarter today but i discuss with the creator and maybe with this review, a publisher could contact him for a retail version because on my point of view, this game deserved a retail version.
There are some interactions with the tech abilities and the competition for final scoring goals. Also, someone else decides your choices for most turns. It's probably similar interaction to most tableau builders
I really, really like the look of this game but it looks like there is basically no player interaction and at the price i cant find myself buying it which is a shame.
I like what I've seen of this but... Where's the player interaction? It looks as though you're basically all playing the same game at the same time, but by yourself. The whole point of playing boardgames together is for player interaction, this seems to have little to none, I'm only going off reviews I've watched though. Am I missing something? The "objectives" that you "share" with your neighbours kinda seems like it turns it into an optional mini co-op. But the non-adjacent people, what interaction is there if any with them? Seems like none.
There’s not a lot of direct interaction, but you do have the objectives you’re competing with the person next to you. But I will say, many people get just as much enjoyment with parallel play than they do with direct interaction.
The space theme/planet inhabiting theme is being done to death. The Lazy Susan is cool and looks enjoyable but I really am not excited by space games at all.
I get that is somewhat fun to build your planet and go up tracks... but boy... this seems to be a absolute solitaire game, no interaction, no examining, caring or auditing what other players are doing... Just heads down over your board and lets see who did better in the end. I am really over this type of game.
I've played with 6 just last weekend, and it is one of the best 6 player games I've played. It still works great, one of the best 6 player games I could suggest.
I love how Tom hit the event deck at the end!
"Lazy Susan" is a term without clear origins, and a cultural myth exists claiming Thomas Jefferson invented it and named it after his daughter, who complained that she was always served last at meals and so was always hungry. Modern etymologists do seem to largely agree that it's more likely that "Susan" was a common generic name for a female servant in upper class homes, and laziness was a common complaint about servants among rich people, so calling a device like that a "lazy Susan" would have been a sarcastic reference to this simple device doing the servant's job for her.
All Susans are lazy
Not popular at all with some women actually named Susan!
The box needed to be a few cm taller.
There is a guide on where to put all the pieces from the publisher, but they really need to include them in the box so people don't have to go searching for them.
Do you have a link to that guide per chance?
@@Atlas-FM8 th-cam.com/video/PfSAnNSGdMg/w-d-xo.html
So glad you loved this game! I also love playing it. A couple rules points- 1) when you take a Meteorite off your planet it is not worth three points, you must collect three Meteorites to gain one victory point. 2) the SUSAN has 12 different polyomino spots in it. Each section of two polyominos- smaller area on top, larger below it- is called a Depot- thus six Depots to select from. One of the ways the game ends is when a Depot runs out of tiles- not just one spot of the twelve.
The trays are great! The one you showed has matching areas on both ends- for Meteorites and Lifepods. The six rectangles in the middle are not for cards- they are meant to place all five different resource trackers per player in their own separate place- so you can just grab all five to stock your Corporation Board. The other tray has a spot for the first player token, two small angled spots for the Depot Indicators, and the rovers go on the other end of the tray. On this tray there are three areas for the cards: Event, Civ and Objective. The last large area across from cards is for the Biomass tiles. Yes, they should have put a sheet in on this!!
I also threw away the bottom tray and my game fits well in the box. I love the SUSAN. Awesome. I also got the 12 optional neoprene planet mats and these are really cool for this game. Same brightness, two sided with planets on both sides, but the polyominos don't slide out of place as easily. Super nice upgrade. I highly recommend them, but they DO have to be stored separately!
I played a six player game at GenCon and it was great. We did run out of a Depot first- before anyone filled their planet. The more players, the less control you have in filling your planet. This makes for very interesting, different play because you must use different strategies with many players.
Lastly, when you score the planet you score every completed (no Meteorites) row AND column for a total of 40 points possible on the generic planet KSB-4156 (one side of each of the 12 dual sided planets is the generic planet, other side is 12 different planets for more variety). This game is my current favorite. It's just great!!
Thanks for your conclusion right up front. I've never understood reviews structured like a mystery story.
He usually says that if he's about to knock a particular aspect of the game. If someone hears the negativity, they might stop watching. Sometimes it's easy to make nitpicking sound like big negatives especially for viewers who don't have the same perspective and experience as enthusiasts. So, they don't have a good method of understanding the weight of the review's comments.
I agree! I have the deluxe version as well, and it's been a big hit with everyone I've shown it to. So glad you liked it as well!
this feels like the kind of game that should have been picked up by Z-Man or AEG and produced (and streamlined, especially in terms of rulebook) properly, rather than kickstarted. Imagine it with a Cryo-level production...
What a useless comment.
@@TheLuminousCleric it got 19 likes so 19 times less useless than yours
It is assuming a lot of things. How are those two publishers better? I havent seen or played Cryo. Nothing useful.
I agree with pretty much everything Tom said in his review, an absolutely excellent game! I bought game mats for all the planets, which is also really nice (though a bit harder to read the point numbers on). Love the game, even though there are some quality issues with the components and rulebook.
do those mats fit in the box? i just ordered them!
@@Gregthegreat88 The mats do fit in the box, but it's nevertheless hard to fit everything in the box (which seems to be a problem even without the mats). I still love the mats though... :-)
This is the polyomino game for my collection. The minor issues don’t bother me and the game was getting compliments from my friends during our first playthrough which was great! Great review, hit everything good and bad but highlighted how replayable it is with a streamlined system.
When i played this game online like... 2 o 3 years ago (i don't remember) I LOVE IT SOOOO MUCH.
that i was eaiting to buy it (well, at that time i can't afford the backup on the Kickstarter bc, wel... Uni student)
Now, at the present, i am waiting my copy to arrive 🤩🤩🤩
Love the game too, hate the quality issues.
I playtested this at a Protospiel Years ago. It was really neat back then and surprised the heck out of me because I don’t like polyomeno games
I'm really glad I recently late pledged this. Can't wait for my copy to arrive!
The Deluxe version has become the only version (so no separate retail version without deluxified components).
* I see the update on canceling the retail version now. Still curious about the hobby edition..
Where can I find info on this? The recent update on the KS page says, "we do plan to enter into distribution with a hobby edition around August 2022 with the SKU adjustment decision...." I was assuming a hobby edition would be different from the deluxe.
Asking because I can get a deluxe edition now but if it's the same as the retail, then I may wait.
In the updates on kickstarter the difference seems to be 6 additional planet boards, 2 extra corporation boards and wooden meteor and life pods not plastic minis.
Foe me, this makes the retail pretty much identical as it has the gametrayz, lazy susan rover minis and enough planet and corporation variety. Also the box lid should close properly in a second run with slightly less stuff inside 😁
Spot on review! The game play is stellar. The quality issues are really pretty minor and disappear once you start playing. I also took out the bottom tray and my deluxe box now closes to within 2 mm of full closure; not enough to be a concern.
I really like this game. Along with isle of cats is one of my favorite polyomino games. Wish box was 2 cm taller though
Seems like this one pulls a bit from Hadara with its rotating selection and track advancement. Will have to check this one out :)
Hadara and Planet Unknown share commonalities in that they are both games I played first at cons, both games I immediately said "I HAVE to buy this," and now almost 3 years after backing Planet Unknown (frakking Covid), my copy has finally arrived. 2 great games.
Played it 6 player a few weeks ago and it played really smoothly and was a blast. The component wash was terrible and I soaked mine in 91% Alcohol over night to remove most of it. I may paint them up. The box thing, yes a shame, but the game play more than makes up for the oversight. Great game for a first time publisher and hope they do many more as I'm sure they have also learned allot from the campaign. I assume a reprint will be made in the future.
I'm absolutely terrible at polyomino games but my group found this one to be really fun. We like space themes and even though I'm bad at this one, I really really enjoyed it.
Congrats on 300k subs!
Can this even be purchased anymore?
You can late pledge for it on game found right now. Estimated delivery is April 2024
One thing that Tom didn't mention but he showed was that the single pieces don't actually fit into single slots on the board sometimes. They have to lay on top of other tiles. That really annoyed me as much as everything not fitting in the box. But really enjoy the game.
Isle of cats has the same issue. You have to flip some of the tiles in order for them to fit together properly sometimes. Scaling them just a tiny bit would fix it. Alternatively, you can always sand the edges skittles and it does the trick
Thanks for the great review! If you could pick this or Galaxy Trucker for your collection, which would you pick?
I'd say they are very different games.
Played it at 3 players over the weekend and we had a great time. The components with the deluxe package were a little disappointing but happy the gameplay is so good.
My City meets On Mars. Looks interesting.
Internet says..Estimated Release Date: July - August 2022. I shall be picking this one up..
5:20 it is 1 point per 3 meteorites. Not 3 points for each one.
And you put on the upper rigth location on the corporation board ;-)
Sure, i just misspoke. We played it correctly.
@@thedicetower I assumed you knew and it was just a goof.
Event deck is great - other than that Tom hit spot on with this review.
Looks like the love child of Terraforming Mars and Cosmic Colonies, not a bad combinations for sure.
I see hot new trend with Lazy Susans as a mechanism in board gaming.
Still blows my mind that the box is too small.
I need to get this. By the way, there is a charming short (like 5 minutes long) called "Lazy Susan | A Short Film Comedy on the Untold History of a Famous Inventor." It's pretty funny and on YT.
Are you coming to UK Games Expo? Would love to play with you if possible. May also be at Gencon
I don't think it's their first project, they did the beer one with the bottle caps and the sword one I think
Literally the first thing I said after playing: "this might well be the best polyomino game I've played".
Lazy Susan forgives a lot of sins 11:12
This game is getting such rave reviews and I’ve been searching for it since early 2023. After much searching, I’ve placed an overpriced order but can’t wait to get it. In addition to great game mechanics, it seems perfect to be able to accommodate solo mode to 6 players. Our game group has grown and it eliminates the 4 player or less games. So, I’m really excited about this game. Love the lazy Susan concept and that there is no down time for players. I suspect it’s going to the top of the game list, like Ticket to Ride.
My barnes and noble had it today! And 2 more copies. I don't usually purchase games there, but had to since no one else seems to have this game right now. Maybe try checking your local barnes and noble. Best of luck!
How does this play with 2?
I think Tom did not get the events. Going down a track can be good and interesting because you get to pick the bonus (for example a civ card) again when you go up again.
Also you can leave the red events out and then you only get positive stuff and an alternative end game trigger which i find nice. I would at least suggest trying them one more time without the bag ones
*bad ones
I did. Going down still isn't fun.
You dont regain Civ cards, i believe. Theyre like factory cards in Scythe in that there’s 1 per plaayer +1, so everyone gets one and will have some options when choosing
Tried to post a link but it got removed..
But check bgg you can regain civ cards
I don't really like the events either. I might stop using them.
look good but dont have player interaction :( this for who love solitare game
There is some with some of the tech abilities and final goal competition and polyomino choice. I do like some solitaire games though; adding some folks around to chat to makes them better.
Does anyone like this as a solo experience?
First comment. Great game! Added to my wishlist.
Sorry for you, excepted if someone want to sell his copy, it's only Kickstarter today but i discuss with the creator and maybe with this review, a publisher could contact him for a retail version because on my point of view, this game deserved a retail version.
Recent KS update states a hobby edition is planned for release in August
So how are people not calling this multi-player solitaire?
There are some interactions with the tech abilities and the competition for final scoring goals. Also, someone else decides your choices for most turns. It's probably similar interaction to most tableau builders
Thanks!
Okay time to checkout reviews for this game now that it’s nominated for KSJ. This one kinda fell off the radar for me last year.
Tetrisforming Mars
Quacks of Mars
wow lowest price im seeing is $400 and shipping... omg
Tetrisforming Mars.
Lazy Susan sold me on this game
The lazy susan desperately needs a lid.
I really, really like the look of this game but it looks like there is basically no player interaction and at the price i cant find myself buying it which is a shame.
Not a wash. :)
I like what I've seen of this but...
Where's the player interaction?
It looks as though you're basically all playing the same game at the same time, but by yourself.
The whole point of playing boardgames together is for player interaction, this seems to have little to none, I'm only going off reviews I've watched though. Am I missing something?
The "objectives" that you "share" with your neighbours kinda seems like it turns it into an optional mini co-op. But the non-adjacent people, what interaction is there if any with them? Seems like none.
There’s not a lot of direct interaction, but you do have the objectives you’re competing with the person next to you. But I will say, many people get just as much enjoyment with parallel play than they do with direct interaction.
This is one of those cases where the box art is such a turn off, I would pass it by.
This is not their first game.
The space theme/planet inhabiting theme is being done to death. The Lazy Susan is cool and looks enjoyable but I really am not excited by space games at all.
I get that is somewhat fun to build your planet and go up tracks... but boy... this seems to be a absolute solitaire game, no interaction, no examining, caring or auditing what other players are doing... Just heads down over your board and lets see who did better in the end. I am really over this type of game.
Reprint campaign is live! I am so freaking stoked to finally get a copy of this game!!
!!@ QFSADFSFqR@