PR Racing S1 RM 2WD Buggy REVIEW and COMPARISON with the G Force Genova & Kyosho Dirt Master.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 พ.ย. 2023
- If you're watching on a smartphone, apologies if the BGM seems too loud! 🤦😥
Here are my thoughts on the S1 RM, a rear motor mounted retro styled buggy from Taiwan RC maker PR Racing. If you're in the market for a high performance machine with old stool looks, then you might want to check this out! I also compare it on track with the G Force Hobby Genova and Kyosho's Dirt Master.
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Disclaimer - I'm not a pro driver or paid professional and these are just purely my thoughts. I call it as I see it.
As always, thanks for watching!
LINKS:
S1 RM UNBOXING:
• UNBOXING PR RACING S1 ...
S1 RM BUILD REVIEW:
• Build Review of the PR...
G FORCE GENOVA:
• G FORCE GENOVA 2WD 1/1...
• G Force Hobby Genova "...
• G Force Hobby Genova S...
KYOSHO DIRT MASTER:
• UNBOXING the Kyosho Ul...
• Initial Thoughts on th...
• Kyosho Dirt Master Tra...
• Kyosho Dirt Master Rev...
DIRT MASTER vs GENOVA:
• Kyosho Dirt Master & G...
• Kyosho Dirt Master VS ...
In Japan? Get your S1 RM here:
sakigake.buyshop.jp/items/777... - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Couple of things. First, the BGM on this video is a lot louder than I thought it was, especially if viewed on a phone. It is better on a computer. 😞 Apologies if you're struggling to hear me! I need to get better at sound mixing. 😥
And secondly, if you're in the US you can (probably) get the S1 RM from here: shop.prracingusa.com/index.php?route=common/home
or try their Facebook Page: facebook.com/prracingusa/
US is sold out, last few went yesterday
I thought they would! They sold out here in the first week. Next batch is due in mid December. I've already applied my usual warped logic when it comes to RC and figured, given the cost of spares here, and I plan to run it at the track, it would be cheaper in the long run, you know, to just buy a second kit...
So I ordered kit #2 😅
With the Super Dog Fighter, '87 Worlds Spec Optima and the S1 RM, it is an expensive couple of months!
Nice vid! I have only done the unboxing so far but the chassis is a big step forward vs the other two. I'm starting to think we now have a new class leader in this new segment and fingers crossed we see a few more offerings come to market. I'm not sure if these are selling enough units for the manufacturers to keep them going, but I hope this class doesn't fizzle out before it's had a chance to grow. Right, I'm off to start building my S1 RM
The S1 RM feels much more like a high end race buggy when it's put together and for the price is a real bargain! 😊 Likewise, I hope that the popularity of this new segment continues to grow. I think a lot will hinge on clubs offering races suitable for these modern/retro buggies. As good as the S1 RM is, I don't think it would be competitive against modern high end mid-motor mount buggies.
I can't speak for elsewhere, but here in Japan the Genova is really popular and you see them everywhere. It would be great if you took the S1 RM to your local indoor track. Not only to see how well it does, but to give others the opportunity to see the kit in person. That alone will persuade others to give PR Racing a try! 👍
Very nice vid and interesting comparison 👍
Thank you. 👍
Great running 🏃♂️ video David, I’m loving the PR s1rm and hopefully getting one when they hit uk 🇬🇧 shores, meanwhile I’m still loving the dirtmaster, a fantastic kit and I’m looking to upgrade the electronics for some Kyosho electrics 😊
who will be distributing in the UK? I wonder if the spares supply are going to be ok.
Hey David, thanks for sharing your thoughts and your comprehensive comparison at the end. Looks like an awesome package and one I am considering here in the UK.
It seems that the price in the UK and elsewhere is really competitive, which makes it even more of a good deal. You get a lot of performance for the money. A definite alternative to the Dirt Master and/or Genova. 👍
Very well presented overview!
Thanks! 😊
Really great review. Will be picking up one of these next year, but as based in UK restricted to the Dirtmaster unless I import it myself. So happy to see it’s nearly as good as he S1M!
Thanks! The Genova is a good buggy and it's such a shame they're not sold outside of Japan.
Looks awesome Dave.
Thanks! 😊
I've just built my S1 over the weekend, pretty impressed with it but I knew what to expect as it's not my first PR buggy, they are super high quality and great value here in Australia. Only issue I had was a ball cup split while popping it onto the ballstud, other than that it's one sweet bit of kit and the grey ball cups on my SB401R are better quality and should fit. It's also $50 au cheaper than the dirtmaster here so that's a no brainer and the parts prices are cheap too through our local distributor. Can't wait to get it on my track once I get the ball cup replaced. Thanks for the excellent review.
Wow, at that price it is an absolute bargain! And you've got access to cheap spares too! 👍 I've picked up a few essential spares myself, but given the cost I'm thinking it would be cheaper to just buy another kit! 😅
Awesome vid David 😊 I’ve been looking forward to seeing what you think of this buggy 😃 sounds like a great option.. Pete
Thank you! I think it's a great buggy for the money. 👍
It's well worth a look, especially if you regularly run on a track.
I never seen that buggy before it looks awesome I want one
It is good. 😊
Great run through of the buggy and the comparisons between this and the others. It looks really nice out on the track and it is probably way better than my driving skills are LOL!! Not a bad price on it for what you are getting either. If this was a Tamiya buggy it would be in the $500-700 range and it is only $220 so it it is quite tempting!
For $220 it's a bargain! I think you'd enjoy the build and I think it would do really well around your track. 👍
Thanks for the work made here. It was good to know how the categories are settle at your track, it helps understand it better. As I really like Pr racing products, and same goes for the S1, I personnally find the body being a miss. But it is just a personnal point of view.
The S1 RM is my first PR Racing Buggy, but it won't be my last! Very impressed with the brand. 👍
Most of the tracks here seem to follow a similar system of dividing track time between various levels of performance. Tsukuba RC Arena uses ten minute slots for entry, stock and modified classes. For the most part, I think it works well.
Thanks! 🙂
The body is one of the draws that has me wanting this buggy.... lol cheers
Great vid, David. I kinda miss the BBX on this comparison.
I had thought about it, but to be honest I feel that for a variety of reasons the BBX isn't suited to run on a high grip carpet track. Dirt, would be a different matter. It is by far the best looking and the most enjoyable build, but it is also a relatively complex buggy and while I wouldn't call it fragile, there is plenty that could be damaged. In a way it's like my Holiday Buggy. I enjoy running it around the track, but it's body doesn't last long with regular crashes...as happen a lot. 😅 😩
Cost wise, it's essentially the same price as the S1 RM. But it would be no match for it in terms of performance.
@@KaiCityRC thanks for the insight. Really appreciate it 😊
What? While the first 3 are based on competition chassis the bbx has nothing to do with competition and a comparison just wouldn't make sense whatsoever. Might as well compare tomatoes to light bulbs.
Great video David. I’m looking forward to building mine😊. Are there any hopups you would recommend? The prices of option parts in uk are not too bad.
I've already picked up a few hop ups myself! 😁 It's a little pricey, but the S1 Ackerman Board CNC Aluminum part No. 66430366 is a good idea for better steering. Not that there's anything wrong with the stock set up. That said, pay careful attention in the manual to where it says not to over-tighten certain screws as they can cause the steering to bind. The alloy front hinge pin brace part No. 66400376 is another one I picked up.
As I plan to run this regularly at Carnosa, I also went ahead and got the graphite (hard) lower sus arms, plus spare steering knuckles/castor blocks etc.
Thanks! 😊
Interesting to hear that PR Racing's rear motor buggy has a lot of steering. Their mid motor buggies are much the same, setup with lots of steering out of the box, more than a B6 series for example.
I was surprised at how much steering it has for a rear motor mounted buggy. I had expected it to drive much like my DT-02, Genova and Dirt Master.
Thx for this review. I already have the dirt master but this seems like a sweet addition. If anybody knows when and where we can get the Pr racing in Europe. Cheers
Again an excellent video, thank you. I was looking hard at nice quality, not-too-expensive 1:10 2WD and 4WD buggies (to be run on pavement) for our daughter. At times I was close to go with a Pro 2WD buggy like Associated RC10B6.4D and only the cost brought me back on the ground. If S1 RM were available in Europe I would have very likely got it, but at the end of the day I went with (yes, a bit different car) 1:14 LC Racing Truggy kit as it offers a very interesting price to quality ratio (based on what I have seen on YT). The also have a 4WD 1:12 buggy (Apparently a longer/wider version of the 1:14 variant) and then a Pro 1:10 4WD. I would be interesting to hear whether you have experience with LC Racing. The Truggy shall start to be build in about a week - I am curios how it will go and whether our daughter will like it.
I've not got any experience with the LC Racing. I know they're available in Japan, but much like PR Racing only sold via a few model shops. I've heard they're pretty good and reasonably priced. It's always good to try something new. 👍
Good luck with the build!
Great video David, really interesting to see you pit these three against each other. The S1 RM does look like a really strong contender to the others. It is completely subjective of course but I'm surprised the looks of the S1 RM came out on top. The chassis looks very nice but I have to say the body styling is very bland and lacking in character IMO. Looks are extremely important for this class of car because if you just want the best performing modern chassis obviously there are far better options out there, so the draw for these cars has to be the vintage style rear motor/cab look. They've played it very safe, there's nothing about the body that offends the eye but at the same time there's nothing to draw it either. I'd like to see a little bit more creative flare, so if I had to pick one the Genova wins for me.
Agree totally. 👍 Looks are a big part of the appeal for this type of buggy. I was surprised by the results of the poll and by comments from other drivers at the circuit. I was sure the Genova would be the clear favorite. In all honesty I hadn't expected the S1 RM to replace the Genova as my favorite of the bunch, but the more I see it the more I like it. I'm a fan of simpler design aesthetics, so I guess that's why I'm gravitating towards the S1 RM. 🙂
Some people at my local track are looking to buy a few rear motor cars for an indoor durt track here in the states.
Wish I could grab one of these
Hi there! Thanks for commenting.😊 I found your series of videos on how to become a faster driver very useful! 👍
As for the S1 RM. I believe they're available in the US. Try here: shop.prracingusa.com/index.php?route=common/home
Also check out PR Racing USA Facebook page. 👍
@@KaiCityRC Will do, thanks man and keep up the good work 😁
Awesome video David 😊 like always. Very interesting comparison, I am biased Kyosho is the better looking 😂 the front tyres on the pr s1 rm looks really creat for carpet, what kind are they and did you use them on the kyosho and genova too? And I really like the rims on the pr s1 rm 😊
Thanks! For testing I fitted the same tires to all three buggies. I use RICKSIDE DESIGN VP Racing Hybrid Evo tires on the front and Pyramid Evo tires on the rear.
Awesome thanks David 😊 I have to check out those tyres, hope I can find them in Sweden too 😊
No problem! A lot of drivers at Carnosa runs those tires as they relatively cheap and offer good grip. @@prophetate
Nice buggy, looks good
Wonder how we can get it in France
There are several online shops who carry pr racing in Germany. That's your best bet.
@@AsurasWrath164 thanks for the info !
Is this made for Japan domestic market only or for international market along with Japan?
They're definitely available in the US. Check out PR Racing USA Facebook page for more info.
Thanks.
Let me preface by stating that I really like your videos and your style. But if I may, the background music is a touch too loud. Makes it challenging for me to hear your words. I turn up the volume, and of course, the music still has the front stage. You do you, but it'd be nice not to struggle to hear what you're saying in these videos. #ConstructiveFeedback
Thanks for the feedback. 👍 You're not the first to comment about the audio on some of my videos. During editing I listened to the sound via headphones and the computer's built in speakers and it seemed fine...🤔 I guess I need to experiment more with the audio side of video production. 😅
Further to my original reply: On my iMac and MacBook the sound mix seems ok, but on my phone and a few other devices the audio is a lot louder than I intended it to be! 😔 Sorry about that!
They won't ship to Canada :(
Did you try shop.prracingusa.com/index.php?route=common/home
They have the S1 RM and they may ship to Canada.
This car now seems hard to get. The parts are also getting hard to get. Thoughts?
No problem getting the kit or parts here in Japan. 👍 Can’t speak for elsewhere.
@@KaiCityRC I am looking for the rear carbon shock tower. Are those easy to get in Japan too? Thanks
@@alfredyost7972 The main stockist for PR Racing currently lists most spares as available, but even if they're out of stock they usually become available again after a few weeks. The carbon shock towers are in stock at the moment. sakigake.buyshop.jp/items/80781941
@@KaiCityRC
Thank you the web site is mostly in Japanese. I could not tell if the ship world wide. Do they ship to the USA? They do take PayPal, so that is good. Also, something you might be interested in. If you need parts for your G-Force Genova. Banzai hobby has parts and they are cheaper than Amazon Japan on almost everything. They are slow to deliver, but I bet they are fast where you are in Japan. I got the metal shocks for my Genova and they were much cheaper. Thoughts?
Sadly, they don't appear to ship outside of Japan.
Hi David, nice done, great video- but I wonder what happens if you're running them out in the dirt. For me the S1 looks great, and about the HopUps i am glad to have the older RB5 wich have lots of spares to fit a Dirt Master. But I enjoy seeing more Brands selling these kind of vintage looking Buggies. Greetings Jürgen
Good question! There are no dirt tracks in my area, so it would be hard for me to test. I'd imagine they would be pretty evenly matched though.
Indeed, the next time I'm at Carnosa RC park I plan to use some foam spacers to run shorty lipo batteries in the Genova and Dirt Master and see how a forward battery position (like that of the S1 RM) changes their handling. 🙂