I was able to do a shakedown run yesterday and it drives really well and you can tell with the right driver, this thing would fly around the track. Very smooth and quick to turn. Wrenching on the 870c looks to be a real breeze as everything is simple and easy to get to. That said, this buggy more than any other feels like it is best used on hard dirt/clay tracks. The belt/diffs are completely exposed and although the under tray helps, small rocks, gravel, twigs etc still do make their way inside and could jam between the belt and pulleys. Loose dirt, fine gravel and sand are probably not a good idea for sustained running!
@@KaiCityRC Yes, it is too exposed so I'd be careful driving it where there's any loose stuff on the ground. I didn't catch what steering servo you used for it, some Savox type?
The RC10CC is great, and I was tempted. But After recently picking up the 1987 Worlds Mid, a TT-02 SRX and now this, my RC budget has well and truly been blown for a while... Where I live it that shaking wasn't too bad, thankfully. Thank you for asking. 🙂
interesting with your take on the manual. I felt the same with the RC10CC. Although from the outside it looks like the same manual once you open it up its completely different. The new, is all pics whereas the original is paragraphs of literature with details explaining how to build it. You did a great job showcasing the build and highlighting the quality of the parts. When I do get mine and start to build, I'm going to have to watch your video again for reminders. And I'll download a copy of the OG manual too. Thanks again and great video.
Yeah, once I started really looking through the original manual I couldn't help but feel they missed an opportunity with the manual. Having a vintage style manual to go with a vintage style buggy would have been perfect. And it would have been a great deal of help during the build process. They kept the box original, they should have kept the manual original too. 👍
They could do even better and include the original manual, publish a streamlined modern one if they felt like it, but most importantly include all the setup and mods over time from the experience of drivers winning and losing
@@KaiCityRC The online manual now has a basic setting for the slipper clutch included... teamyokomo.com/downloadfiles/!02!MANUAL/!04!OFF-ROAD_KIT/YZ-870C_Instruction_Manual.pdf
Thank you for this! 👍 They have indeed added some info on setting up the slipper! I measured mine and I'd got it set to 4.6mm, so right in the ball park. I was hoping they'd also include a spare parts list and the back of the manual, but alas, still nothing...
Yes this does bring back the nostalgia feels. You did a fantastic job on this Yoke. Thanks for sharing your process as it’s gonna help me and others. 🙏
Definitely! It sold out almost immediately here. The next batch won't arrive until April. Yokomo have got a winner on their hands - well, technically it's been a winner since the late 80's. 😁 Given the response, I think it's a safe bet we can expect more re-releases from Yokomo in the future.
It is a really cool buggy. Your turned out looking great! Thanks for going through the build and sharing your thoughts on it! Happy New Year and wishing you all the best in 2024!
That looks amazing! I love that colour choice David. Simple is always best if you ask me and really shows off the style of the thing. It feel like everyone else has just been hanging around like zombies over this kit, Just wandering around with the box with drool dripping from their lips while you have purchased and built it like a COBRA! 😃 First proper review of it I have seen. I am really very tempted now. I am still only half way through the BBX build so if you have any ideas how to break this news to my wife then let me know 😄
Thanks! I tend to gravitate towards simpler designs, which is good because I'm not that great at painting bodies. 😅 I got lucky this time. I managed to get a pre-order in. The model shop I used shipped it out the day it went on sale and I was off work, so I could jump right into building it. I've been told my unboxing was the first on the net, which is kinda cool. 😁 But also a little unnerving as it feels like the whole RC community is suddenly looking in my direction! 😬 As for ideas, well, this is the first and could, possibly be the only ever re-release from Yokomo of a world championship winning machine...and it would be a real shame to miss this opportunity...and it will be worth tons on money in the future...and I've always wanted one...and...I'm out of ideas! 😁 😂
@@KaiCityRC Your review was really thoughtful and considered with lots of nice tips included to help avoid mistakes.🙂Really looking forward to seeing the running video and how it performs. I guess you are going to do that.
This came out great! I think those colors go very nicley with each other to! Hope to see a running video soon 😉 I'm certainly loving the vintage scene of Tamiya, kyosho and Team Associated RC10s. But personally I dont feel a connection to this car as much as others in a "must have" mentality. And being priced where it is currently in the US doesn’t make it easier to get one. But with that said, I can certainly appreciate the vintage RC history around this brand and kit. Maybe one day I'll get one myself. Always enjoy your videos and cant wait to see this one running !
Thanks for the kind words. The 870c is something I knew little about back in the day, but over here it is a re-release many people have been waiting for. So I started reading up on it, and well, it's easy to see why!
"Super Dog Fighter" has to be one of the greatest names ever for an RC! Looks like a very raw cast finish on the bulkheads, unusual when your used to seeing smooth anodised aluminium on kits. I like it, suits the old school buggy perfectly. Is there any chance you could include the weight? Possibly in comparison to the legendary releases from Kyosho? Excellent review and thanks for sharing :)
Sure, I just checked. Dogfighter weight with electrics but no battery is 1,355 g and would you believe it, the Optima Mid is exactly the same! 😲 870c HW 1060, 27T brushed, savor servo, Futaba receiver. Mid Kyosho Le Mans brushless ESC and Motor, Futaba servo and receiver.
Cant wait to get my 870, shouldnt be long now, but wish they had kept the ball diffs and made it as the original. But its going to look great blasting around the track 👌
Me and ball diffs do not get along, so I'm kinda glad they replaced them with gear diffs! 😅 But you're right, it would have been nice if the kit included them like the original. Perhaps we'll see some option parts appear this year.
@@KaiCityRC i hope we do, i race on grass mostly, ball diffs are more suited for that. But its not the end of the world. I think we will see some upgrades, but not just from yokomo, i can see a few people looking at making upgrades 😁
Aye! It's a lot more than the standard Mid, but you do get a whole host of option parts included with the kit. (though I would have preferred gear diffs, rather than ball diffs). To be honest, I'm more than happy with my standard Optima Mid and for a time I had completed the Legendary Series collection (off road). But Kyosho keep on releasing more...so I have to buy more...😅 It's become an addiction. Will it ever end?! 😁
@@leeroyjenkins7141 The 60th anniversary specials? Not really. Most of the main online retailers sold out soon, but some local hobby shops still have stock. I think price put some people off. That and maybe the fact the Mid and 870c releases were so close together.
I am happy I watched this video, what a cool buggy after all! Of course I know by now your videos will offer a really good presentation of the RC car, but this one really surprised me. I pay a lot of attention to RC on the social media these days, so of course I saw the hype for this buggy, but I didn't see what the fuss was about... It's still not a buggy I'd get for myself, but I gotta admit it's really nice, even with all its flaws and obsoleted design. It's sooo cool! I'll definitely be looking out for your next videos with this one, especially the run video. And the colour is really nice, very oldschool, retro cool! And by the way, I don't remember where in Japan you are located, but I hope all is well where you are, I've been watching clips from the earthquake on West Coast, looks pretty nasty.
There has certainly been a lot of hype, especially in Japan, for the release of the Super Dog Fighter. I think it's probably due to its history and the fact it is Yokomo's first real "re-release" of a buggy from that era. Many of the people I've talked to here had, wanted, or knew someone who had a Super Dog Fighter back in the day, so there is a lot of nostalgia about the release too. I wasn't too sure if the color scheme would work. I seriously considered going all neon colors, yellow, green and pink for a real neon 80's vibe. Then thought about a black and pink design, before finally deciding to go with my usual preference of blue! 😁 I shot some footage during a brief shakedown run and will try and get a running video done soon. 👍 Oh, and thank you for asking. I'm in Yamanashi, not too far from Tokyo and quite a bit south of the affected area. We had some mild shaking, but nothing serious, thankfully!
It makes sense from a business and sales standpoint why they went this approach and build setup but I understand what you mean.. Though sadly it’s the price that will turn a lot of people away I think. Still nonetheless an awesome looking buggy. Definitely 80’s feel in my book, nice job 👍
Great video and again thanks for the in-depth review. I'm rewatching your video as it is really helpful. As matter of fact, I'm in the process of building mine now. I'm up to the part with the read uprights or "steering blocks". I"m a little confused and maybe you can add some clarity... from what I gather the same metal left steering block (labeled L) that is used on the front left side is also used on the rear left side (labeled L) but just rotated 90 degrees to stand up. Is this correct?
Yeah, the 870c is on the expensive side...and it was a real stretch to justify the purchase so soon after I got the '87 Worlds Mid. RC can be a very expensive hobby.
The problem is the Spare parts like kyoscho and tamiya 😕they sale This model and make Spare parts for One ear and they stop tho make the Spare parts .and i live on europe This is a problem😕
It's too early to comment on spare parts from Yokomo for the 870c. A little worryingly, in the back of the manual where the spare parts and options list would normally be there is nothing...🤔 Tamiya tend to run off parts in batches, sometimes once or twice a year for many of their re-released buggies. Though some more than others. Parts for the Avante, Egress and VQS are always hard to come by, but show up now and again. Parts for Grasshoppers, lunchboxes etc are always reappearing and usually in stock. Kyosho, to date, produce a new batch of kits around once a year and soon after parts will start appearing. I tend to grab as many spares as possible while they're in stock. That said, the Javelin and Optima have gone over a year now and now new batch. Finding certain parts for the Javelin/Optima proved very tough! Although I'm in Japan I ended up ordering them from the UK as it was the only place that had them in stock!
@@AsurasWrath164 l make cnc machined 6061 and 7075 parts for a living so do share the love, but it doesn't mean I can't appreciate quality casting when I see it.
Body color is PS-3. Under tray is PS-33. 👍
An updated manual is a must. I just finished building a Schumacher Cougar classic and my fingers are really sore. The rear wing is a damn nightmare!!!
In all Seriousness, I hope you and your love ones are ok today. Love Canada.
I'm based in Yamanashi, there was quite a bit of swaying, but fortunately nothing too serious. Thank you for your concern. 🙂
I miss the shape of these bodies
Good job ,great presentation
happy new year !
Thank you! 😊 I really like the styling of the 870c. I always thought the windows reminded me somewhat of Stingray from the TV show. 😁
Super simple car, optimal design, so yeah it may very well be a great racer.
I was able to do a shakedown run yesterday and it drives really well and you can tell with the right driver, this thing would fly around the track. Very smooth and quick to turn. Wrenching on the 870c looks to be a real breeze as everything is simple and easy to get to.
That said, this buggy more than any other feels like it is best used on hard dirt/clay tracks. The belt/diffs are completely exposed and although the under tray helps, small rocks, gravel, twigs etc still do make their way inside and could jam between the belt and pulleys. Loose dirt, fine gravel and sand are probably not a good idea for sustained running!
@@KaiCityRC Yes, it is too exposed so I'd be careful driving it where there's any loose stuff on the ground. I didn't catch what steering servo you used for it, some Savox type?
Savox. I usually go with Futaba, but recently they're out of stock everywhere!
Looking really good 👌🏻 happy new year
Thank you! And a Happy New Year to you, too! 😊
Thanks for the update David, I'll have to wait a while for mine as I picked up the RC10CC! (I hope the earthquake has not impacted you or family.)
The RC10CC is great, and I was tempted. But After recently picking up the 1987 Worlds Mid, a TT-02 SRX and now this, my RC budget has well and truly been blown for a while...
Where I live it that shaking wasn't too bad, thankfully.
Thank you for asking. 🙂
interesting with your take on the manual. I felt the same with the RC10CC. Although from the outside it looks like the same manual once you open it up its completely different. The new, is all pics whereas the original is paragraphs of literature with details explaining how to build it. You did a great job showcasing the build and highlighting the quality of the parts. When I do get mine and start to build, I'm going to have to watch your video again for reminders. And I'll download a copy of the OG manual too. Thanks again and great video.
Yeah, once I started really looking through the original manual I couldn't help but feel they missed an opportunity with the manual. Having a vintage style manual to go with a vintage style buggy would have been perfect. And it would have been a great deal of help during the build process. They kept the box original, they should have kept the manual original too. 👍
They could do even better and include the original manual, publish a streamlined modern one if they felt like it, but most importantly include all the setup and mods over time from the experience of drivers winning and losing
@@KaiCityRC The online manual now has a basic setting for the slipper clutch included...
teamyokomo.com/downloadfiles/!02!MANUAL/!04!OFF-ROAD_KIT/YZ-870C_Instruction_Manual.pdf
Thank you for this! 👍 They have indeed added some info on setting up the slipper! I measured mine and I'd got it set to 4.6mm, so right in the ball park.
I was hoping they'd also include a spare parts list and the back of the manual, but alas, still nothing...
Thank you for that build review 😊 All the best from Switzerland 😇
Thank you! 😊
Nice buggy David, i just pre ordered mine. Can't wait to build and running this 80's rare exotic icon.
Thanks! It's amazing that they we get chance to own now something we could only dream about as a kid. 🙂
Great car, cheers for the video. All the best for the New Year!
Thank you!
Holy hell! I just spent 30 min trying to remember where I heard that opening clip. Schoolyard heroes is a deep cut dude...
The music on the intro is "Power Shot" by Alex Grohl. I guess it sounds similar, though in all honesty I'm not too familiar with the band! 😅
Great looking buggy.
Thanks!
Wonderfull video , thanks. Congrats on nearly 3000 subs.
Thank you! I never thought I'd be approaching a three thousand subs!
Looks fantastic David!👌Looking forward to see how it performs.🙂👍
Thanks 👍
Great video David! 👍🏻🏁
Thank you!
Yes this does bring back the nostalgia feels. You did a fantastic job on this Yoke. Thanks for sharing your process as it’s gonna help me and others. 🙏
Thanks for watching! 😊
Another great video, David. The buggy looks absolutely fantastic! Happy New Year!
Thank you! And Happy New Year to you too! 👍😊
Nice looking buggy, it’s going to be a big seller
Definitely! It sold out almost immediately here. The next batch won't arrive until April. Yokomo have got a winner on their hands - well, technically it's been a winner since the late 80's. 😁
Given the response, I think it's a safe bet we can expect more re-releases from Yokomo in the future.
@@KaiCityRC
A Works 93 would be luuurvly👍
It is a really cool buggy. Your turned out looking great! Thanks for going through the build and sharing your thoughts on it! Happy New Year and wishing you all the best in 2024!
Thank you and a Happy New Year to you swell! 👍
That looks amazing! I love that colour choice David. Simple is always best if you ask me and really shows off the style of the thing. It feel like everyone else has just been hanging around like zombies over this kit, Just wandering around with the box with drool dripping from their lips while you have purchased and built it like a COBRA! 😃 First proper review of it I have seen. I am really very tempted now. I am still only half way through the BBX build so if you have any ideas how to break this news to my wife then let me know 😄
Thanks! I tend to gravitate towards simpler designs, which is good because I'm not that great at painting bodies. 😅
I got lucky this time. I managed to get a pre-order in. The model shop I used shipped it out the day it went on sale and I was off work, so I could jump right into building it. I've been told my unboxing was the first on the net, which is kinda cool. 😁
But also a little unnerving as it feels like the whole RC community is suddenly looking in my direction! 😬
As for ideas, well, this is the first and could, possibly be the only ever re-release from Yokomo of a world championship winning machine...and it would be a real shame to miss this opportunity...and it will be worth tons on money in the future...and I've always wanted one...and...I'm out of ideas! 😁 😂
@@KaiCityRC Your review was really thoughtful and considered with lots of nice tips included to help avoid mistakes.🙂Really looking forward to seeing the running video and how it performs. I guess you are going to do that.
my dream car
Very nice build, Yokomos are awesome! ✌🏼😎👍🏼 Happy 2024!
Thanks!
Hope you weren’t affected by the quakes David! Great job I’d say you sold more yz10 kits for yokomo by making this video 😃
Thank you for asking. I'm quite far from the epicenter. We had some mild shaking, but nothing serious.
Good stuff, you seem to have built that fast.
There isn't a whole lot to it! Very few parts, shims, spacers etc. The hardest part was the body! 👍
This came out great! I think those colors go very nicley with each other to! Hope to see a running video soon 😉 I'm certainly loving the vintage scene of Tamiya, kyosho and Team Associated RC10s. But personally I dont feel a connection to this car as much as others in a "must have" mentality. And being priced where it is currently in the US doesn’t make it easier to get one. But with that said, I can certainly appreciate the vintage RC history around this brand and kit. Maybe one day I'll get one myself. Always enjoy your videos and cant wait to see this one running !
Thanks for the kind words. The 870c is something I knew little about back in the day, but over here it is a re-release many people have been waiting for. So I started reading up on it, and well, it's easy to see why!
"Super Dog Fighter" has to be one of the greatest names ever for an RC!
Looks like a very raw cast finish on the bulkheads, unusual when your used to seeing smooth anodised aluminium on kits.
I like it, suits the old school buggy perfectly.
Is there any chance you could include the weight? Possibly in comparison to the legendary releases from Kyosho?
Excellent review and thanks for sharing :)
Sure, I just checked. Dogfighter weight with electrics but no battery is 1,355 g and would you believe it, the Optima Mid is exactly the same! 😲
870c HW 1060, 27T brushed, savor servo, Futaba receiver.
Mid Kyosho Le Mans brushless ESC and Motor, Futaba servo and receiver.
Wow, wouldn't have guessed that. Thank you.
Very interested to see this run and how it compares.
Have fun :)
This looks amazing David
Thanks! ☺️
Cant wait to get my 870, shouldnt be long now, but wish they had kept the ball diffs and made it as the original. But its going to look great blasting around the track 👌
Me and ball diffs do not get along, so I'm kinda glad they replaced them with gear diffs! 😅 But you're right, it would have been nice if the kit included them like the original. Perhaps we'll see some option parts appear this year.
@@KaiCityRC i hope we do, i race on grass mostly, ball diffs are more suited for that. But its not the end of the world. I think we will see some upgrades, but not just from yokomo, i can see a few people looking at making upgrades 😁
Great video! Happy rcing for 2024 - do you think youll get the optima mid 60th anniversary?
I already have! 😁 That and the JJ Ultima. 👍
@KaiCityRC awesome! The optima mid is very expensive isn't it?
Aye! It's a lot more than the standard Mid, but you do get a whole host of option parts included with the kit. (though I would have preferred gear diffs, rather than ball diffs).
To be honest, I'm more than happy with my standard Optima Mid and for a time I had completed the Legendary Series collection (off road).
But Kyosho keep on releasing more...so I have to buy more...😅 It's become an addiction.
Will it ever end?! 😁
@@KaiCityRC haha who knows! Have they been hard to get in Japan?
@@leeroyjenkins7141 The 60th anniversary specials? Not really. Most of the main online retailers sold out soon, but some local hobby shops still have stock. I think price put some people off. That and maybe the fact the Mid and 870c releases were so close together.
I am happy I watched this video, what a cool buggy after all! Of course I know by now your videos will offer a really good presentation of the RC car, but this one really surprised me. I pay a lot of attention to RC on the social media these days, so of course I saw the hype for this buggy, but I didn't see what the fuss was about... It's still not a buggy I'd get for myself, but I gotta admit it's really nice, even with all its flaws and obsoleted design. It's sooo cool!
I'll definitely be looking out for your next videos with this one, especially the run video.
And the colour is really nice, very oldschool, retro cool!
And by the way, I don't remember where in Japan you are located, but I hope all is well where you are, I've been watching clips from the earthquake on West Coast, looks pretty nasty.
There has certainly been a lot of hype, especially in Japan, for the release of the Super Dog Fighter. I think it's probably due to its history and the fact it is Yokomo's first real "re-release" of a buggy from that era. Many of the people I've talked to here had, wanted, or knew someone who had a Super Dog Fighter back in the day, so there is a lot of nostalgia about the release too.
I wasn't too sure if the color scheme would work. I seriously considered going all neon colors, yellow, green and pink for a real neon 80's vibe. Then thought about a black and pink design, before finally deciding to go with my usual preference of blue! 😁
I shot some footage during a brief shakedown run and will try and get a running video done soon. 👍
Oh, and thank you for asking. I'm in Yamanashi, not too far from Tokyo and quite a bit south of the affected area. We had some mild shaking, but nothing serious, thankfully!
明けましておめでとうございます。
完成ですね。とても懐かしい外観です。
シェイクダウンはどちらですか？
やっぱりダートが似合うかな。
明日、カルノーサに行きますよ、スーパードッグも予約してあるので明日カルノーサで買います。
一緒に2台で走れたら良いですね！
あけましておめでとうございます。コメントありがとうございました。今日公園でちょっとだけシェイクダウンしましたよ！
カルノーサへは明日行く予定です。また明日よろしくお願いします！
It makes sense from a business and sales standpoint why they went this approach and build setup but I understand what you mean.. Though sadly it’s the price that will turn a lot of people away I think. Still nonetheless an awesome looking buggy. Definitely 80’s feel in my book, nice job 👍
Glad you and the RC’s are safe as well 😅 😬👍
Thanks. I agree the price is what will be the limiting factor for the success of this re-release. Hopefully it will come down in time.
Thoughts on gearing….i was thinking of going to a 75/78 spur for the more stock motors (21.5)
Mine is geared for the GFCC race - 69T spur, 32T pinion, 21.5T brushless, blinky and cooling...lots of cooling. 😁
Great video David. I only run NIMH stick packs. This kit is lipo shorty only I believe. Could it accept a NIMH ?
Realistically, no. There isn't enough space for a regular 7.2v nimh pack.
Would love to know what colours you used please as looks great & mine has turned up today. Thanks for the vid.
PS-3 and PS-33. 👍
Ha just realised you did say the colours in the vid so thanks for the reply 👍🏻
Great video and again thanks for the in-depth review. I'm rewatching your video as it is really helpful. As matter of fact, I'm in the process of building mine now. I'm up to the part with the read uprights or "steering blocks". I"m a little confused and maybe you can add some clarity... from what I gather the same metal left steering block (labeled L) that is used on the front left side is also used on the rear left side (labeled L) but just rotated 90 degrees to stand up. Is this correct?
That is correct! At the rear, the upright marked R goes on the left, and the one marked L goes on the right.
@@KaiCityRC thanks for getting back to me. that was a little confusing. I thought thats what the manual said but I just wanted to make sure...Thanks
I want this very much but I have to draw the line 😢 I can not afford this model.
Yeah, the 870c is on the expensive side...and it was a real stretch to justify the purchase so soon after I got the '87 Worlds Mid.
RC can be a very expensive hobby.
So what is the difference between this one and the YZ10 that associated just rereleased besides the body?
Judging by the photos, the only differences are the body and wheel colors.
Team associated make one of thy famous model in the 80' but is more tho admire not for race is a litle fragile😕.and have the problems it dpare parts
Hi David. I have a question for you about Kyosho's and I posted it in your video "KYOSHO LEGENDS COMPLETE GUIDE". I hope you can answer my question.
Have replied. 👍
How much is it going for in US dollars.
Somewhere around $450 I believe, so on the expensive side.
The problem is the Spare parts like kyoscho and tamiya 😕they sale This model and make Spare parts for One ear and they stop tho make the Spare parts .and i live on europe This is a problem😕
It's too early to comment on spare parts from Yokomo for the 870c. A little worryingly, in the back of the manual where the spare parts and options list would normally be there is nothing...🤔
Tamiya tend to run off parts in batches, sometimes once or twice a year for many of their re-released buggies. Though some more than others. Parts for the Avante, Egress and VQS are always hard to come by, but show up now and again. Parts for Grasshoppers, lunchboxes etc are always reappearing and usually in stock.
Kyosho, to date, produce a new batch of kits around once a year and soon after parts will start appearing. I tend to grab as many spares as possible while they're in stock. That said, the Javelin and Optima have gone over a year now and now new batch. Finding certain parts for the Javelin/Optima proved very tough! Although I'm in Japan I ended up ordering them from the UK as it was the only place that had them in stock!
Yes is the big problem they make This buggys they sale a lot .of This buggys and they forget the Spares .😡
Is beacuse this problem thah i bye traxxas RC like the udr .but is arrange you live on Japan and have problems it the Spare parts??
Lots of changes from the original...
Im not so sure about the aluminium being superb. This looks very much like cast aluminium, and not high grade 6061/7075 machined alloy.
I looks like cast aluminium because it is. Superbly cast aluminium.
@@GT500NSX calling cast aluminium superb? Lmao 🤣
I don't have an original 870c to compare, but I believe that used cast aluminum also.
@@AsurasWrath164 l make cnc machined 6061 and 7075 parts for a living so do share the love, but it doesn't mean I can't appreciate quality casting when I see it.
@@GT500NSX that's not the point. Small cast parts will never provide the stiffness and durability a machined part made of quality alloy provides.