Feathering The Bass Drum | Drum Lesson With John Riley

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    Feathering is one of the most common concepts for incorporating the bass drum in jazz music. Even though the idea of playing quarter notes with your foot sounds pretty easy and simple, the impact it has on the music is immense.
    John Riley is one of the most experienced and respected educators in the field of jazz drumming. In this lesson he not only demonstrates the effect of feathering the bass drum but also has some awesome stories to share.
    This lesson is taken from one of John Riley's courses available for free at artofdrumming.com.
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ความคิดเห็น • 76

  • @mightymrmousempls
    @mightymrmousempls 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    John Riley is the Bob Ross of jazz drumming.

  • @jeffrittenour8202
    @jeffrittenour8202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    i could listen to john riley talk about drums all day.

  • @thebarefootdrummer6375
    @thebarefootdrummer6375 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love John Riley my teacher is actually friends with him so I've watched him play live 4 times

  • @sloppy_hand
    @sloppy_hand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    that was by far the best lesson on feathering the bass drum I've ever watched! with all the backstory from it's begginings

  • @8020drummer
    @8020drummer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    1:25 actually sounds awesome

    • @ArtOfDrumming
      @ArtOfDrumming  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks 🙏 really appreciate your feedback - love your channel as well! Btw. Please have a look at artofdrumming.com where we also have a couple of courses with John Riley. It’s completely for free- curious about your Feedback

    • @jeffrittenour8202
      @jeffrittenour8202 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had a feeling you'd be here :)

  • @AjayJetty
    @AjayJetty 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can tell when people take an art form to philosophical level - that's Mr. John Riley on drums

  • @tmstulg
    @tmstulg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent insight. John Riley is the best!

  • @NavySeal6474
    @NavySeal6474 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Boy, am I glad I found this channel!

  • @markielinhart
    @markielinhart 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, I could listen to your talks all night‼✌🌻

  • @andreas.z4374
    @andreas.z4374 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! What an amazing video, thank you!!

  • @bernardoguzmanarnao
    @bernardoguzmanarnao 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great explanation from a great drummer and teacher, thanks for sharing, greetings from Peru!

  • @AHGV19987
    @AHGV19987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    John is such an articulate teacher. 👏👏👏

  • @FadjarMoeljarto
    @FadjarMoeljarto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you the lesson 🥁🥁🙏🇮🇩

  • @pierreg8562
    @pierreg8562 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    this is amazing, i just bought his Art of bop drumming and was reading his comment about feathering yesterday!

    • @ArtOfDrumming
      @ArtOfDrumming  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Awsome! If you enjoyed this make sure to watch all his courses at ArtOfDrumming.com - It's completely for free

    • @elliotjharris9908
      @elliotjharris9908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s on the way for me too! Can’t wait!

  • @Jonathan-dj5ry
    @Jonathan-dj5ry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Terrific teacher and musician🙏🏻

    • @ArtOfDrumming
      @ArtOfDrumming  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree - such a great human being and manner to explain topics.

  • @jonashellborg8320
    @jonashellborg8320 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superb lesson of feathering the bass drum. I listened to Dolores by Miles Davis, it was so hard to hear the bass drum, only after a few minutes I could distinguish a very weak pulse in the low frequencies. It really is super quiet, and definitely a blend, don’t cut, type of sound.

  • @Chris-vr8cd
    @Chris-vr8cd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I knew it! I knew jazz drummers weren't just playing ride, hat, and and snare! I told my gf and she didn't believe me!

  • @jaredcook3757
    @jaredcook3757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the best explanation and demonstration of this I've ever seen.

  • @dmcubing6342
    @dmcubing6342 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was great!!! Thank you so much for sharing!!! 🥁👍

    • @ArtOfDrumming
      @ArtOfDrumming  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks DMC for your feedback - John Is definetely this kind of person which one can listen to all day long right?

    • @dmcubing6342
      @dmcubing6342 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArtOfDrumming absolutely! He’s a wealth of jazz drumming knowledge!

  • @tonymont8295
    @tonymont8295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video! Cheers from Brazil.

    • @ArtOfDrumming
      @ArtOfDrumming  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks ToNy and many greetings back ;-)

  • @gabrielamaral936
    @gabrielamaral936 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome😮

  • @carlosclerigadrums
    @carlosclerigadrums 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always eloquent, Master Riley. Thanks for sharing AOD

    • @ArtOfDrumming
      @ArtOfDrumming  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your feedback Carlos. If you haven’t already make sure to sign up at ArtOfDrumming.com - it’s completely for free and you get access to all John Riley courses.

    • @carlosclerigadrums
      @carlosclerigadrums 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArtOfDrumming I just signed up today! thank you so much!

    • @ArtOfDrumming
      @ArtOfDrumming  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Enjoy!

  • @thomasgiering8091
    @thomasgiering8091 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I listened to Dolores from the Miles Smiles album. And yes, if you only listen to the right channel, you will hear that Tony Williams is featering almost all the time. Great advise.

  • @obscenery
    @obscenery 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He's playing my kit! Same colour, even. :)

  • @B0chit0
    @B0chit0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great! Subscribed. +1

    • @ArtOfDrumming
      @ArtOfDrumming  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Bastian and welcome to our channel!

  • @drakausdromgatti58
    @drakausdromgatti58 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a metal drummer this is so alien to me

    • @ArtOfDrumming
      @ArtOfDrumming  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey Drakaus, thanks for sharing this. But still how do you like his explanation? Btw I am a Jazz Drummer but totally enjoy the explanations about foot technique which George Kollias gave us when we filmed courses for ArtOfDruming.com in our studio ...

    • @rhythmfield
      @rhythmfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually these different types of music (jazz, metal, blues, country, classical, folk, Afrobeat etc etc) are much more closely related than we sometimes think. I’m a jazz player but I hear interesting things in metal … to my ear, modern metal usually sounds like blues played much harder and with more double pedal (or 2 BD) chops 😎 - and remember …. The pioneers of double kick setups were jazz drummers like Louie Bellson.

  • @archisalcedo7045
    @archisalcedo7045 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Ride Cymbal, can you tell me what it is?

  • @MarioCalzadaMusic
    @MarioCalzadaMusic ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve always had this question: what about fast tempos? Are you keeping the feather on?

  • @drumstudiomonchengladbach8131
    @drumstudiomonchengladbach8131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jeez, Mr Riley, your lesson is REALLY great. THANK YOU!!! Ashamed to ask: what kind/brand of Ride-Cymbal are you playing.

    • @ronm6359
      @ronm6359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Looks and sound like (to me) a Zildjian K Constantinople

    • @ArtOfDrumming
      @ArtOfDrumming  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes it’s a k Constantinople Renaissance

    • @chinatype
      @chinatype 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have the same ride but I’m not as articulate as John can play it 😊

  • @undergroundmoe
    @undergroundmoe ปีที่แล้ว

    Did we hear all mics or just the overhead at 04:10?

  • @Mobby74
    @Mobby74 ปีที่แล้ว

    Right, not to question John at all, that would be highly inappropriate. But isn't that the matter of preference and style? I see drummers like Joe LaBarbera and Willie Jones III feathering all the time. I don't see Dave Weckl in his jazz playing (all the more that he only plays heel up, can anyone feather heel up?) or Jack DeJohnette feathering at all. Neither Bill Stewart. Am I wrong with these guys? Did Elvin Jones feather at any time? What I like listening to is the bass drum as an equal participant in the conversation with the other voices within the drum kit and with the other instruments. Always ready to play on the beat, off the beat, anywhere, on the two trip-let notes, etc. I gather you can lock the bass drum on the quarter note and then unlock it when you want. For me locking the bass drum on the quarter notes then unlocking it to play something very syncopated, and then locking it again is a bit strange. I rather want to develop the ability to use the bass drum melodically, just like the snare drum, to play full phrases, bass drum - snare drum combinations, use the bass for counter point, etc. Very active rather than static bass drum use. But just seeing what Willie Jones III does is well, amazing.

  • @sunflowerguy5314
    @sunflowerguy5314 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did Elvin do this?

  • @ridzkymarliantohadi5800
    @ridzkymarliantohadi5800 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the series of drum, please?

  • @bonfu8398
    @bonfu8398 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How to spell the song that Miles and Tony played?

    • @rhythmfield
      @rhythmfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dolores (from Miles Smiles album, and complete 1960s quintet recordings on Columbia. Composer: Wayne Shorter.

  • @bigneutron5510
    @bigneutron5510 ปีที่แล้ว

    Drum Lesson With John Riley
    Best advice of John: " Dont play anything"
    yeah that is it!

  • @ercansengul1300
    @ercansengul1300 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am confused. You are not using flat foot technique on this video. But ıts written in the book that you use flat foot tech

  • @ipguyman108
    @ipguyman108 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can’t heard bass drum at all ..?

  • @GediSpock
    @GediSpock 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds simple.
    Not easy.

    • @ArtOfDrumming
      @ArtOfDrumming  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Small but decisive difference 😉

  • @Savinu_Chamadith
    @Savinu_Chamadith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video @ArtOfDrumming , your website amazing! I learnt lot of things! From SL ;)

  • @bigneutron5510
    @bigneutron5510 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bassplayer: Yeeees amazing . Drummer, What is this ??? Boring!!!!. My advive to the boring drummer - ( by the way ou sucks) Play only the cymbal and go to sleep and let the bassplayer do his fantastic job!

  • @russellesimonetta9071
    @russellesimonetta9071 ปีที่แล้ว

    Uhh I think you should thump loud enough for the rhythm section can hear it but the not the audience! Hide it isn,t enough blend to the bass. Equal partner in the thump. I think the term listen can be misunderstood by drummers! The drummer should never ever adjust the groove to where other people want it!!! Drive the bus! The lead counts it off . Grab that then your job is to hold down the fort!!! Conservative players don,t like that sometimes but players will look at you and give you the yeah man nod!

    • @austinshoupe3003
      @austinshoupe3003 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Time and place for various approaches. But be open minded... you're trying to correct one of the world's top performers and teachers on the topic.
      Riley hits on it in the video a little bit: time is often controlled by the upright bass in a jazz setting, not the drummer. The drummer communicates other things like form, volume, etc. If time is coming from drummers, cymbals are very effective for communicating time. The bass drum is a) occupying a similar frequency range of the bass so it covers them up or makes things muddy and b) used to reinforce hits. Using it as a time keeper in addition to that is just asking for a muddy mix.
      Theres also the whole collaborator vs dictator dichotomy when it comes to time. Again, time and place. If you are only ever one or the other, you drastically limit your abilities and opportunities.