Aeldari vs Necrons - Warhammer 40k Combat Patrol Battle Report
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The Aeldari are here, finally, in 10th edition played with their combat patrol against their dreaded enemies of the past the Necrons. JT and Michael have yet to play together on the channel, but look to remedy this right here and right now!
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It's a bit of an unexpected one, but the Wraithlord doesn't have the Strands of Fate faction in Combat Patrol, so I believe you can't use fate dice for any of its rolls.
This is quite correct. When we played this, none of the indexes were out yet and so we were playing off of poor screen grabs and I think we just missed it. Sorry for the mistake.
I like how they explain rules and abilities when they use them.
in 10th edition, it's different from 9th : you still cannot shoot the unit you're engaged in combat with for blast weapons with monsters and vehicles, BUT, you can now shoot blast weapons at a target that is NOT engaged in combat at -1 to hit.
The doomstalker could shoot other targets the entire time even while engaged with the wraith lord...
This would've easily won him the game..
i think it was more that he had no targets, since the guardians were comfortably behind the terrain
@@SharpAsASpoonagreed, no targets for its blast shots
@@TheBeeFlex At 18:35, the Doomstalker has line of sight on squad of 3 bikes next to the Aeldari's deployment zone. The Doomstalker could 100% reach that squad of bikes with his 48" blast weapon.
Noticed this too
@@GT-vl4of totally possible, but how would it change the outcome of the game ? Blast weapons are most effective against infantry
Awhile back you guys did a "fog of war" deployment scenario where a large wall was placed between the two players, then both players deployed simultaneously without knowing what the other was doing.
That was so cool and made so much sense. Wish that was the standard rule for all 40K starts. Would be even more cool if round one went the entire round with the wall up and movement only, no shooting. Then start of round two the wall comes down and you're completely surprised by each other's positioning, some enemy units danger close even.
We kinda did that earlier this year. Check out death guard vs Astra miliatarum!
@@PlayOnTabletop-- That was probably the video I watched, super fun
This would be so perfect for a mission rule.
Oh that kangaroo dance! 16:35. I was really looking forward to these two combat patrols! Man, seeing the fate dive in action is crazy!
Love seeing non-space marine fights. Michael bringing Necrons is always great though I do prefer the biiiig fights with necrons where they can really do their thing
Just started a little necron army based on a custom vampire counts-esque dynasty. Love to see smaller matches with necrons, I really like the regeneration qualities of the army this edition! Great Game yall!
the fact that the Scorpec destroyer came back about .... 7 times is wonderful. You can imagine it pulling itself along without any legs at all.
Really cool to see more combat patrol battles, nice easy and fast
ALWAYS a pleasure when Play On uploads a new video!
Constructive feedback - at least 3 times in the first 3 minutes the audio cuts on the left entirely. As someone who listens with only one ear to ensure I can still hear my surroundings it was minorly frustrated! :P
Agreed. It was not intentional. Not sure what happened but it looks like TH-cam introduced some odd issues.
@@PlayOnTabletop glad you know! Editing on this channel is top notch and I know that it's a very painstaking process over many hours :)
I thought my headset broke
I might be wrong, but I thought they changed the fate dice to 1 per phase? Love the energy from all your games a wonderful channel to watch
they did in the 40k index, not the combat patrol rules
All it says is 4th paragraph add once per phase. And the army rule is the same for both modes. I'd say it definitely applies to combat patrol.
I looked on the app and there, the uses of strand of fate are not restricted to one per phase.
Either GW fucked up (which would not be the first time) or they want it to remain OP...
Both I don't get.
@@cujfab8962both mode
@@Jjormungandrit’s just combat patrol. Chill my guy
The Aeldari are way too OP. That fate dice mechanic feels like cheating. Lol
I don't understand why people play them at tournaments... It's like... Cool, you won with a broken faction, congrats? 🦄
Yeah they are straight up broken with a 67% tournament win rate right now. Some of the highest disparity in forever! If you DON'T want to make friends at your LGS, show up with a meta Eldar list 🤣.
The Fate Dice were changed by the Rules Commentary. It's now 1 die per a Phase now. Idk if the Fate dice are still the major issue with Eldar now. I'm leaning towards the other issues instead.
@@thordoo3047 cause who’s gonna buy an entire new army just cause the one they have happens to be broken 😅
@@Stubble317 Fair enough :)
This was the very first video that got me into 10th edition. Thank you guys for getting me into such a wonderful Tabletop game
Is it just me or is the Sound switching to only one speaker at times?
It does. I noticed that too.
We apologize there are some technical issues on the audio for this one. We can't fix it unfortunately on an uploaded video and will ensure we are more careful in the future.
@@PlayOnTabletopno Problem, I still enjoy your Videos and the effort that goes into it. Especially as a noob to this hobby! Cheers!
Lmao I thought that was my earbud blinking out! Thank the gods its just the vid audio.
Nope it's me too
Holy moly, I knew strands of fate was powerful but I've never actually seen it in action before. That's insane!
Appreciate the video. Combat Patrol is the most underrated game mode in 40k.
Great game, the players were awesome as always, and the production was a wonderful showcase for Combat Patrol. Just ordered the Necron box, and I can’t wait to play this at the next board game night. Exciting stuff 👍
Love these combat patrols can’t wait for Custodes
I love Nick's hops 16:32
This a great Combat Patrol, my favourite I've watched yet! Two great players, great atmosphere, great fun! 🙏🏼
Wouldn't Michael have got 4 shots with the doomstalker's first shot because it would been D6+1+2 due to blast? Unless I'm forgetting combat patrol rules.
Yes he should have benefited from blast for every 5 models
maybe the doomstalker kanon or whatever does not have D6+1, but only D6 shots in Combat Patrol
@@blackbusterletsplay9377nope it has it
I saw that too, they forgot to add the +1 so it should have been 4 shots
its still D6+1 and blast for combat patrol@@blackbusterletsplay9377
I love how Combat Patrol boxes are their own game mode now. I can just grab a box, build it to spec and start playing against any other box right away
It’s like what kill team was supposed to be. Not you need multiple boxes
I really need Michaels painting scheme it looks so good
I absolutely love this series! I personally love combat patrol and its great seeing you guys play it!!
Good tilt! Also, appreciate how you point out some of the rules as you play.
Thank you for another battle report! I hope we see one feating the Adepta Sororitas.
Is it just me or did the Overlord forget to use his Tachyon Arrow? Cuz I would have shot that on Turn 1 right into the Wraith Lord's face lol.
For the Scarabs with no OC or abilities in Combat Patrol. I would have had them move up with the Warriors. Let them be up front and take the brunt of the attacks being the cannon fodder they are lol.
The Doomstalker, tagged as a vehicle, could have still used their Doomsday Blaster while in close combat. It can't shoot it at his close combat target because it has blast, but he could still shot it other targets with a -1 to hit. However, I don't think there were any visible targets by the time this happened.
One thing I couldn't figure out though was why was the Doomstalker was considered stuck? Is it because his base couldn't move around the building without it going out of bounds or past the Wraithlord without going over the Wraithlord's base? If so, maybe a Desperate Escape could have been worth it to get out of the corner? Could have maybe shot at the Eldar Warriors some more or the Wraithlord. Could have used the Scarabs to screen the Wraithlord in Combat maybe. Or taken the near by objective, beating the Wraithlord's OC3 to the Doomstalker's OC 4.
Not a chance for necrons. One gate play.
Necrons: I roll some dice, please roll some saves.
Eldars: I use fate dice, please remove models.
Love the sound effects this episode!
Would love to see a rematch with the full rules now available for all the combat patrols. A great vid as always
As a new player love combat patrol videos!
In leviathan book razing an objective is done at the start of phase, and primary is scored at the end of phase. Should JT get only 15VP turn 2 because he only controls 1 objective as he razed the other? Or did Michael control none?
Awesome content as always!
Wraithlord doing a Kangaroo dance into combat
Aeldari: That will put the fear into them! :P LOL
I may have missed it - it's been a year - but, did we ever get the rematch? I just started playing the Aeldari, and picking up this army was a toss-up between them and the Necrons, so this was an exciting and relevant BR. Thank you, @PlayOnTabletop!
16:33 random bouncy nick!
Im still learning the rules and it seems that just pulling dice off the side is major OP.
@PlayOnTabletop
One thing I couldn't figure out though was why was the Doomstalker was considered stuck?
Is it because his base couldn't move around the building without it going out of bounds or past the Wraithlord without going over the Wraithlord's base? If so, maybe a Desperate Escape could have been worth it to get out of the corner? Could have maybe shot at the Eldar Warriors some more or the Wraithlord. Could have used the Scarabs to screen the Wraithlord in Combat maybe. Or taken the near by objective, beating the Wraithlord's OC3 to the Doomstalker's OC 4.
Yeah he couldn’t move out of the corner. The terrain was two tight. :/
I was rooting for the Aeldari, but dang the Necrons punched back hard af. Good match overall.
They tried hard!
The War in Heaven that I’ve been wanting! 😂
I thought this would have been a great game, but then I saw that JT was using the old and busted fate dice, not the cleaned-up version.
Painful in a big game, oppressive in a smaller one.
Love to see a rematch with the current version being used, tho!
Technically this change isn't in CB (yet), as anything affecting their other datasheets or indexes does not affect the Combat Patrol (and it wasn't changed there)
I’m impressed the Necrons were able to put in that much work, considering that they have no special rules on any of their data sheets. And the elders kept all their special rules. Also, seems that the Necrons have no strats in combat patrol. This doesn’t seem like a good format for new players. Simple yes, but not a representation of the game.
we need more necrons and by that i mean we need more michael :)
At around 23:00, the rule for overwatch with charging is that you can only fire overwatch (in the reference to charging) if they make the charge. If they don't make a successful charge roll then you can't overwatch that unit.
There’s a bit of debate about that right now. Jury is still out and we are awaiting a faq on it.
Is there? Seems pretty clear to me. Overwatch = when a unit starts or ends a charge move. Charge section says ‘IF the charge [roll] is successful, each model makes a charge move…’
Therefore, failing a charge = no move is made = no overwatch. Simples.
@SolidStoat Yeah, this is correct. It is paraphrased with the glossary definition of a charge move but this is correct. Had a 30minute discussion with someone about this.
I wasn't expect scarabs to be able to go through walls. As they are no infantry and therefore could not.
Really like the scenery you use for your games🙌 always feels like you are in the battle💪
Nick with the Kangaroo Cameo™
Wow that overwatch on 4+😬 plus the fate dice of course made it rough.
Still looks like a quick fun game at this level, really looking forward to playing some Combat Patrol
Great game guys 👍🏻
we need more jt battle reports! 🔥🔥
What could have helped the crons was using the right overlord model because the data sheet has it equipped with a tachyon arrow which could have came in clutch to help pop off the wraith lord, by at minimum hit scoring at least 3 wounds, and up to 8 being D6+2 to damage.
Let’s go NECRONS!!!
I may be getting this wrong but at the beginning of round 2 I think elder were holding 2 objectives and necrons were holding one. Eldar scored 5pts for holding one or more, another 5pts for holding more than the opponent, and then another 10pts for razing an objective. But as far as I am reading the rules the objective has to be razed at the beginning of the command phase and then scoring happens at the end of the command phase. Shouldn’t this mean that if an objective was razed the eldar player no longer holds more objectives than their opponent when it comes to scoring, which would result in 15pts?
I’m interested in clarification for my own play :)
JT messed up a little. The Wraithlord does NOT have Strands of Fate in Combat Patrol. No fate dice for him, I'm afraid...
Ooh, yeah that one is defiantly an oversight! Thank you for the heads up and apologies for the mistake!
@@PlayOnTabletop No worries! I just learned it at a local Combat Patrol tournament and most Eldar players didn't realize either. I think it should be a bit clearer somehow
Pretty sure we plain missed it. We filmed this prior to the fate dice nerf (though it's still the same in combat patrol. It's possible we had the wrong sheets to be honest. Just means the rematch should be all the better!
Loved seeing the Eldar fight the Necrons
10:06 Casino dice are the most accurate ones, over indented dice or rounded corner dice. Those have been shown to produce more ones than casino dice.
I just got the Aeldari combat patrol this gives me some good ideas
i love every battle u guys ost
Why Necrons didnt use reanimation protocol in turn 2?
I'm new to the game and I had heard Eldars were OP.. I now know why, LOL
Dice fixing and overwatch on 4s.. crazy.
So if I see someone playing Aeldari I should shake their hand and say have a nice day. Got it. Lol
So happy that editing kept in a bunny hop in the background 😅
@PlayOnTabletop -- Hello Team, I love your content. I just can't get enough of the 40K action. Quick question for you. What is the material you use to outline your play area? I would like to do something similar to this for my own games.
It’s neoprene strips cut to the length we need.
@@PlayOnTabletop Thank you greatly. I did not expect such a timely response. You guys rock. Keep up the awesome work.
man his gf pulled the "My will be done", his name is Robo
too much mistake rules in my opinion but its always nice to see necron battle
Just to let yall know, there are some really weird audio issues going on with the sound switch to only the left ear.
As a Necron player I really could relate to the game. Combat patrol is such a good way into the game, and also good for busy lives. Can you tell me where the command point dice you were using comes from? I really liked the idea of having the larger dice, but when searching, I just come up with squishies, foam and wooden dice.... As the datasheets are free now, what about having a link to just the datasheets etc used in each video, so we can grab them and kinda "play along". Would Games Workshop be okay with that?
They are foam dice from the dollar store :)
I know I'm a bit late here, but did anybody else get some weird audio panning issues at the during the intros? I was getting the audio panning hard left multiple times
Hahah Nick kangaroo hopping in the background 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Are we getting a game with the new space marine combat patrol anytime soon?
This video is fantastic in showing how to play the game. Is there more content like this where they explain what they are doing?
I'm still trying to learn, but at 19:01, when the Destroyers wanted to charge into the bikes, why did the Aeldari player chose to use Overwatch at the beginning of the charge move (which would grant the Necron player cover) instead of the at the end of the charge move (no cover)?
My understanding is that you can overwatch at the start or end of a Normal, Advance, Fall back or Charge move.
If you do it at the end of the charge move the u it is now in engagement range and that limits what can shoot.
@@PlayOnTabletop Makes sense, thank you!
Please more Combat Patrol! - Great stuff;
The Magnet Baron: You WILL be disappointed 🤣🤣🤣
Aeldari dice choice a reference to the Aeldari toilet cheating dice meme? Has to be surely
Excellent game! Well played!
Great video but I wanna mention how that overlord is not the correct one for a necron combat patrol
its crazy how Michael managed to gain so many points in one turn
Nick in the background at 16:35 😂
Hi guys ! Something I miss : Why on the first round you activate the reanimation protocol you dont reanimate all of your Warriors ? You get a 4 so 4 are suppose to return no ? Because de Warriors have a D6 if I dont miss anyting
Thats only if they are in range of an objective in full 40k, otherwise its just the D3, sadly necrons have almost no special rules in Combat Patrol
@@TheCrimsonArchivist oh ok its true my god I miss that ! Thanks
@@TheCrimsonArchivist oh wait I re-ready and its : each Time they activated their reanimation its D6 of its on objectif its D3+3 so im right its weird why they use like this
@@mcfructix7688 yes but in Combat Patrol they only get the generic reanimation protocols
@@TheCrimsonArchivist ah ok so in normal its fine but in this particular gameplay its less powerful I see thanks
Wraithlord doesn't get Strands of Fate in Combat Patrol
the sound kept tripping me out. great vid as usual!
WHO DID PAINT THESE NECRONS ? I wanna have his recipe 👀
Can at least someone tell me how to achieve that blue/turquoise on their armor plates ? 🙏👀
Hey! The blue is a sotek green base coat, I normally will have to do two thin coats to get a consistent finish. After that it is a overbrush of skink blue, followed by a much more selective dry brush of ushabti bone. Try to hit just the raised areas and or just the corner panels with the ushabti bone. Finally I will normally do two glazes of a watered-down seraphim sepia, the first one being all over, the second one being concentrated in the grooves and Shadow areas. Hope that helps! Tag my Instagram if you use the recipe!
@@michaelbuckthorp977 thank you SO MUCH 🙏 will be some time till i try it out, but will let you know !
That much black and white ends up making the Eldar feel partially painted to me. Not terrible looking, just simplistic.
That seems an odd rule choice to me that the combat patrol lets you burn without the opponent getting a turn to interrupt.
Also get the core rule has changed, in balancing Eldar since this, but seems braindead they let Eldar get a full pool of 12 for a Combat Patrol to begin with.
Epic intro
The different toughness in a unit does not matter. Because the bodyguard unit was alive when that unit was targetted all rolls are made against the bodyguard toughness, even if they die halfway through the attacks.
Also, I know it hasn't been updated in the combat patrol but I think that's a mess up from GW. It's now restricted to one fate dice per phase max.
I saw that 16:33
Would it be possible to get the combat patrols in their own playlist? Or am I just not seeing it? Thanks!
im just learning how to play this game, but the aeldari seem to be broken being able to just brute dice like crazy...
So who’s gonna tell ‘em you can fire out of combat w/blast weapons?
JC rolling all the 5's
Those damage rolls hurt my soul
Aren’t the eldar bikes supposed to be in one squad not split for Combat Patrol?
i think votann vs aldari will be a great video next
Is SoF once per phase PER unit, or just once per phase?
Example: if I have five Attack 1 rolls (so five 1d6), can I SoF all five dice, or just one?
Best Episode ever
That necron overlord isn't the one used for combat patrol though
16:34 I spy my spirit animal
i feel like you should do an episode where it's narrated like golf instead of sports commentary
3:58 hi robo
Wait, why did Mike stop controlling his home objective? It was supposed to be "sticky"?
Only if it was controlled by a battle one unit.
@@PlayOnTabletop Ah, It was armywide Necron rule.
The elder player saying something else is nuts is very ironic
Correct me if i'm wrong but i thought necron warriors reanimated d6 models and 3+d3 if they were on top of an objective?
Cb has different rules