Excellent video, fellas. Everything was explained very thoroughly, and was easily understood. I wish there was something like this when I first got into the modding scene. Definitely interested in a MOSFET video, though. Keep up the great work!
Two months of reddit posts, wikipedia pages, and dozens of open tabs and I learned more in 10 minutes of this video than I ever did. How is it that no one ever explained stall specs that well?
Because a vast majority of the denizens of reddit (and dare I say nerf in general) care more about feelings and dogma than facts. "Science" and "Maths" are scary words... Its getting better tho -R
Just to clarify, does Milliamp hours indicate how long it could last in relative way? Now I just need to determine the exact specs of the stryfe battery compartment and I should be able to find a 2S Lipo that fits and runs the honey badger.
Well I'm bookmarking this one, really well presented! A good chunk of this applies to airsoft (different motors and switches, but the wiring and batteries are the same, and the maths of course) I even learned why 2s/3s lipos are called s when Cell begins with C! Didn't think about series and parallel connections in battery packs, I've never seen a parallel connection. The discussion of connecting two batteries together to double the capacity does pop up every now and again, but it's generally frowned upon in our circles as different discharge rates could lead to one battery overdischarging before the other battery is empty(at least, that's the theory that's thrown around)
Yeah, I wanted this video to be applicable to as many different communities as possible. Parallel is very rare nowadays. I'm not 100% sure on how using several packs in parallel would go down but that sounds legit. Battery manufacturing has improved so you can get pretty big individual cells so paralleling packs is rarely necessary.
I have been looking for a video like this for quite some time! Thank you so much for the great detail and practicals. Very rarely do people give the reasons behind a mod as well as examples for how they do it. Again, Thanks So much!
This video is awesome for a beginner like me, even three years later. Is there a newer video on this subject that may have any updates concerning this topic in our hobby, or is it just more efficient motors replacing older models? Thanks!
Official reason for the re-upload is the last 2 minutes of the video were missing. Unofficially... We are going to teach you how to be VILLAINS! -Justin
Make.Test.Battle please make a video about other better sources. I know you briefly touched on a few but I would love to know more about LiFePo4's, NiCad's, IMR's, etc.
Thanks for this video, explained a lot that I didn't understand before. I just ordered 4 neo hellcat motors for 2 hyperfire builds I'm taking on and some 3s lipos from hobbyking. I'm glad to see the parts I ordered look compatible. The batteries are a little large but no harm there
I got 2 things. 1. How to calculate total use time for a 3s 1 amp/hour 25 c Lipo powering 2 rhinos 2. If the total volts for a 3s is 11.1, that would only give me 3 volts of wiggle room before I have to recharge at 7.1 volts? I don't want any of the cells to drop below 3.2, so 7.1 just doesn't seem like a lot. Or can I push it all the way to 3.2 total volts in the entire battery?
The 4 digit code is related to the thickness and number of turns of wire in the coil and not the kV. Search for "Mabuchi motor code" for more info on that -R
So then what does determine the kV of a motor? I was reading on an RC forum that the number of wire turns on each armature and the thickness of the wire determines the kV. Something like lower kV motors have thinner wire but more turns. Given that your 3050s run on 3S and Mabuchi's 3240s run on 2S for around the same RPM, that seems to hold true, but I'd like to know for sure.
kv is still applicable for brushed motors, and can definitely be used to determine the motor you want. as well, kv and torque are inversely related. high kv tends towards low torque. different permanent magnet types will change the torque of equal kv motors. many motors have an-isotropic ferrite magnets and those are the weakest type. however, for the same kv motor with neodymium magnets, the torque will be much higher. the middle of the road magnets are isotropic ferrite which are the strongest that ferrite magnets can come. neodymium, being an entierly different material, has an entirely different performance threshold, though it doesnt range much if at all. with the same number of turns on a motor's armature, weaker magnets raise kv and stronger magnets lower the kv. so a neo magnet equipped motor will have the highest torque, and will also require a slightly lowered turn count compared to a same-kv ferrite equipped motor. this is the most significant reason why kv doesnt tell you all that you need to know about a motor. kv is more useful with brushless motors because all brushless motors are equipped with neodymium permanent magnets. the same-kv shift of torque variance in brushed motors is not relevant to them because of this..
Every useful info! This is why you can't just put neo mags in and expect it to work the same but better since the back emf from the stronger magnets will reduce your maximum RPM. I really want to do a much more detailed video to go into these sorts of details. As far as I know, kV is more useful when you motors coils are fully filled, you know your magnet, and you can just assume you will get maximum possible torque out of the wind (brushless motors). As well as that kV is useful for marketing reasons as it means you don't needs to directly list your torque, you can just let the customer assume it ;) For the MTB motors we have the full torque curve and numbers available for people to look at and compare which is a far better metric than kV. It is also usually possible to find this curve for brushed DC motors -R
"'We are number one,' but it's all synths, and it's the background to a Nerf mod guide." Man, these "we are number one" memes are getting really esoteric.
Would it be possible to run honeybadgers and wolverines on 4 AA or would RPM suffer or would it only be spin up time? Also could I run rhinos and hellcats on 8 AA or would RPM suffer or would it be only spin up time? I don't give a crap about spin up.
Great video guys! Very informative. Have a quick question for you… I'm putting together a rapid pistol with three hellcat 180s. Plan on using a 1000mah 45c constant 90c burst obviously 3S lipo. Just wondering if that will be safe if the motor stall?
I first watched this video and didn't understand any of it, then I went on an internet binge of watching nerf mod videos and scrolling through hobbyking and blasterparts, and know I can understand almost all of it, I would be a dumbass without the internet.
In your paper you say that we want the darts to skid as they go through the flywheels. Are you saying that knurled/grippy flywheels such as those from Worker should be avoided?
If I run a 9v (yes I know its not the best option) in my stryfe with every battery (exept for the 9v itself) being a dummy battery, there would only be 9v running in it as oppose to the standard mod (With a 9v and no dummy batteries), would it burn out my stryfe? Please respond. Thank you. Reply 1
Hey MTB, I finally got around to making my rapidstrike Uzi but I'm not sure what to do with it. I am not allowed any sort of lithium battery in my household so lipos are out of the question. I am not a massive nerfer, I just like playing around the house so super fast flywheels aren't really needed I do however want a high ROF so I thought, what can I do. And I came up with this: Keep the stock wiring, replace the pusher motor with a honey badger, and use a 7.2 volt nimh pack. Will that setup increase my rate of fire? Thanks
So If I use two rhinos for the flywheels and one honey badger for the pusher in my rapidstrike, do I get a 3S and a 2S and have them running on two different circuits? PLS answer.
Is there any motors that 3 IMRs will be able to supply the current and amps? I just bought 4 IMR's. And I was initially going to run stock motors. But I that would ruin the motor. So would your mtb rhino motors be able to supply their full potential with IMR's?
9:05 of course not in Nerf but there are batteries like that on some things like I have seen Lithium-ion batteries with that many volts and that many cells for electric bicycles
mosfet and relay video would be awesome. Also I have been wondering if pwm module would be beneficial in flywheel based blaster? Where do you guys get ur motors and are you going to do anymore videos on hpa stuff?
It is verrrrry hard to find the exact figures for brushless motors but a guy on the Nerf Reddit page did some testing and the ones he used seemed to perform similar to top tier 180 motors which is quite surprising. That said, there are *many* different brushless motors so whos to say some aren't better. I will definitely cover the differences between brushed and brushless in the detailed motor video -R
@.Make Test Battle hey nice video very informative. I'm from the drone community,nit auto dji but hand soldered freestyle quads. The lipo batteries that go upto 4.2x are HV (high voltage) standard lipos charge upto 3.8v. Tha k's for the vid I'll be using it to mod mine! Cheers.
So when searching for a Lipo, do I search for a Discharge rating that is equivalent to all the motors draw added together? Or is it just the motor with the highest draw? Sorry if this makes no sense :P
Hey Ryan! Thanks for this. Though I know the basics, it is great to have a comprehensive guide that can be linked to when people ask questions. One thing I did notice however is that you didn't go over pusher motor stuff, probably by design. I think it would be good to note that Honeybadgers and I assume Wolverines (Don't have any yet!) run great for high ROF Rapidstrikes. PS- 10S2P LiPo's exist!!! I've seen them, but I don't think you can (or would ever want to?) buy one anymore...
I did go over it very briefly, but its hard to give a good explanation of the torque requirements while keeping it simple. the rule of thumb is divide max RPM by about 4,500 for the Rate of Fire. Also I'm sure they do exist but I was just using it as an illustrative example -R
I know this video is a bit old and dunno if you still check the comments but I have a question..... if I intergrate a cordless drill battery into the handle of a blaster, what motors would you suggest and would a 12v battery be too much (obviously it would be better to use lower voltage) but most drills I'm finding come with a 12v.
Not sure if you understood the video but a 3s Battery has an operating voltage from 12.6v to 11.1v. The real question is if the battery can handle the current output. -Justin
I have a question. I have Honeybadgers. My preferred battery is sold out (25C with 35C stall). There's a similar size pack that is 40C. Now, does the increased potential for current mean it will burn the motors? Or does the fact that the motors draw current mean it won't change or hurt the circuit? (I'm running it on a mosfet system, should that matter). TL;DR does excessive current potential in a battery cause any issues in lifespan of a motor? Or is merely going to be wasted potential?
Great video, Filled in a gap I had on Lipo and made me wanna make a 2s2p 18650 battery tray for my next Stryfe build. Luckily I have a 3d printer and knowledge of vape batteries (Most common application of 18650 by non hobbiests) Wish me luck
Thanks Ryan, this is a great video, (as most of yours are) and helped me a lot in choice of motors and batteries. I'll be buying M.T.B. motors from now on (Fang Revamped make me want to retch) and some Neo-Rhino's for my Modulus, Hyperfire, Rapidstrike and Regulator Builds, probably even my Mega Mastodon (with some shims to hold the motors in place), what pusher motor do you think would work best on a 3S setup with Neo-Rhino motors? I can do motor braking to avoid runaway firing, so that doesn't worry me, ideally I want to stick with 130 size cans, just for the simplicity and less internal and external shell cutting. Honeybadgers are 2S, right? So could I use a 3S Rhino as a pusher without any issues?
So does anyone see anything wrong with running 2 hellcats and a rhino as the pusher in a Hyperfire@3s? Or should I go with wolverines as the flywheels and rhino as the pusher? I don't currently have any 2s lipos. So basically what is the best setup for a Hyperfire on 3s. Cheers, Zayne :)
will 3s Lipo fry stock rapidstrike pusher motor? I can't find any suitable pusher motors anywhere, I get it I should ideally get around 10000rpm but I'm feeling lost
so i have a quiestion. i am building a honeybadger 2s build and was wondering what wire would be better? 15 awg or 21 awg wire since they´re the only wiresi am able to find. (also i know those are wierd numbers but i live in sweden so accept it lol)
I still don't fully understand why 180 motors would take less cells (2S) as opposed to 130 motors taking more cells (3S), since you're applying less voltage to the larger motors than the smaller motors. I've never used Lipo batteries, so I can only assume that it's because 2S can discharge a much higher current? Still learning, trying to do the best I can.
I'm still really overwhelmed when looking for a LiPo, as there are so many brands. Is there a preferred brand or model for a stryfe running rhinos? Will be using Jase3d's low profile extender.
Not sure because a good spec sheet for XP180s doesn't exist AFAIK but it depends on the C rating as well as the capacity. I would allow 30 amps per XP180 conservatively -R
Not really. The stock motors have metal brushes that will quickly wear out on higher voltages so you will see a performance increase, but the motor will eventually give out. If you are going to the effort of LiPo battery upgrade, you may as well spend the extra $10 for replacement motors -R
does any one ever use motors that are not these standard 180 you talk about there is a massive selection on hobby sites for in runner motors with 3d printers modifications or building a mount for them could be done?
I'm expecting this video to be linked quite often in the future. Nicely made!
That's da plan. :3
Ok I need to sleep.
-Justin
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Excellent video, fellas.
Everything was explained very thoroughly, and was easily understood. I wish there was something like this when I first got into the modding scene. Definitely interested in a MOSFET video, though.
Keep up the great work!
We are Number One but it's Ryan lecturing us about not using Lipos again.
Two months of reddit posts, wikipedia pages, and dozens of open tabs and I learned more in 10 minutes of this video than I ever did. How is it that no one ever explained stall specs that well?
Because a vast majority of the denizens of reddit (and dare I say nerf in general) care more about feelings and dogma than facts. "Science" and "Maths" are scary words... Its getting better tho -R
Just to clarify, does Milliamp hours indicate how long it could last in relative way?
Now I just need to determine the exact specs of the stryfe battery compartment and I should be able to find a 2S Lipo that fits and runs the honey badger.
Yes. a 2000mAh battery will last twice as long as a 1000mAh battery. A good choice is the Zippy Compact 1300mAh. It fits really nicely -R
You have saved me yet further trouble. Thank you, humble nerf saint of nation TH-cam.
Well I'm bookmarking this one, really well presented! A good chunk of this applies to airsoft (different motors and switches, but the wiring and batteries are the same, and the maths of course)
I even learned why 2s/3s lipos are called s when Cell begins with C! Didn't think about series and parallel connections in battery packs, I've never seen a parallel connection. The discussion of connecting two batteries together to double the capacity does pop up every now and again, but it's generally frowned upon in our circles as different discharge rates could lead to one battery overdischarging before the other battery is empty(at least, that's the theory that's thrown around)
Yeah, I wanted this video to be applicable to as many different communities as possible. Parallel is very rare nowadays. I'm not 100% sure on how using several packs in parallel would go down but that sounds legit. Battery manufacturing has improved so you can get pretty big individual cells so paralleling packs is rarely necessary.
I have been looking for a video like this for quite some time! Thank you so much for the great detail and practicals. Very rarely do people give the reasons behind a mod as well as examples for how they do it. Again, Thanks So much!
quality video, have been continually googling these details and not making full sense of it all. Thanks lads.
This video is awesome for a beginner like me, even three years later.
Is there a newer video on this subject that may have any updates concerning this topic in our hobby, or is it just more efficient motors replacing older models?
Thanks!
When like "we are number one" so much it has to be your intro music
Official reason for the re-upload is the last 2 minutes of the video were missing.
Unofficially...
We are going to teach you how to be VILLAINS!
-Justin
Make.Test.Battle i was wondering why i saw this a while ago
Make.Test.Battle Ryan, you are number one...
Only the most respectful of memes for this channel.
Where is the link to your paper?
Make.Test.Battle please make a video about other better sources. I know you briefly touched on a few but I would love to know more about LiFePo4's, NiCad's, IMR's, etc.
Thanks for this video, explained a lot that I didn't understand before. I just ordered 4 neo hellcat motors for 2 hyperfire builds I'm taking on and some 3s lipos from hobbyking. I'm glad to see the parts I ordered look compatible. The batteries are a little large but no harm there
I've probably studied and replayed this video more than I have for school work. Thanks!
I've done flywheel builds before, and I was still able to learn a ton! Thanks for the great vid Ryan.
^_^ -R
I got 2 things.
1. How to calculate total use time for a 3s 1 amp/hour 25 c Lipo powering 2 rhinos
2. If the total volts for a 3s is 11.1, that would only give me 3 volts of wiggle room before I have to recharge at 7.1 volts? I don't want any of the cells to drop below 3.2, so 7.1 just doesn't seem like a lot. Or can I push it all the way to 3.2 total volts in the entire battery?
Yes, someone explained carbon brushes! Carbon brushes are a good way to get stock motors to hold 3s. That's what my Modulus ECS-10 has now.
I really appreciate you guys making these videos! Thanks so much!
Does the 4 digit wiring spec of a motor (like 3240, 2190) affect the kV of the motor? Also, a video on MOSFETs would be very helpful.
The 4 digit code is related to the thickness and number of turns of wire in the coil and not the kV. Search for "Mabuchi motor code" for more info on that -R
So then what does determine the kV of a motor? I was reading on an RC forum that the number of wire turns on each armature and the thickness of the wire determines the kV. Something like lower kV motors have thinner wire but more turns. Given that your 3050s run on 3S and Mabuchi's 3240s run on 2S for around the same RPM, that seems to hold true, but I'd like to know for sure.
A lot of things. Its best not to think of kV when dealing with brushed DC motors -R
kv is still applicable for brushed motors, and can definitely be used to determine the motor you want. as well, kv and torque are inversely related. high kv tends towards low torque. different permanent magnet types will change the torque of equal kv motors. many motors have an-isotropic ferrite magnets and those are the weakest type. however, for the same kv motor with neodymium magnets, the torque will be much higher. the middle of the road magnets are isotropic ferrite which are the strongest that ferrite magnets can come. neodymium, being an entierly different material, has an entirely different performance threshold, though it doesnt range much if at all. with the same number of turns on a motor's armature, weaker magnets raise kv and stronger magnets lower the kv. so a neo magnet equipped motor will have the highest torque, and will also require a slightly lowered turn count compared to a same-kv ferrite equipped motor. this is the most significant reason why kv doesnt tell you all that you need to know about a motor.
kv is more useful with brushless motors because all brushless motors are equipped with neodymium permanent magnets. the same-kv shift of torque variance in brushed motors is not relevant to them because of this..
Every useful info! This is why you can't just put neo mags in and expect it to work the same but better since the back emf from the stronger magnets will reduce your maximum RPM. I really want to do a much more detailed video to go into these sorts of details. As far as I know, kV is more useful when you motors coils are fully filled, you know your magnet, and you can just assume you will get maximum possible torque out of the wind (brushless motors). As well as that kV is useful for marketing reasons as it means you don't needs to directly list your torque, you can just let the customer assume it ;) For the MTB motors we have the full torque curve and numbers available for people to look at and compare which is a far better metric than kV. It is also usually possible to find this curve for brushed DC motors -R
I have watched this video three times and it helped me a lot
"'We are number one,' but it's all synths, and it's the background to a Nerf mod guide." Man, these "we are number one" memes are getting really esoteric.
We cater for a very specific niche of memers -R
Just woke up, saw this, and my day got 72% better ;)
You are awesomely educational. It´s always a pleasure to watch your videos, guys.
Thank you! -R
great explanations and working interactions of parts. No promoting of any particular brand. nice class doen to earth. good folk.
i forgot to ask the nerf kaos set up. how to upgrade it to be acurate
Would it be possible to run honeybadgers and wolverines on 4 AA or would RPM suffer or would it only be spin up time? Also could I run rhinos and hellcats on 8 AA or would RPM suffer or would it be only spin up time? I don't give a crap about spin up.
AA batteries do not have high enough output currents. You will need a LiPo battery -R
So they won't even run? or will they have a super long rev up time
Longer rev times -R
This is awesome. I knew about most of it, but the review on current draw was super helpful
Great video guys! Very informative. Have a quick question for you… I'm putting together a rapid pistol with three hellcat 180s. Plan on using a 1000mah 45c constant 90c burst obviously 3S lipo. Just wondering if that will be safe if the motor stall?
I think you should rewatch the battery section until you can answer your own question :) -R
great video guys. lots of information. I'd love a mosfet video.
electro we are number one as the intro. nice one guys
I love Synthwave. :D
-Justin
I first watched this video and didn't understand any of it, then I went on an internet binge of watching nerf mod videos and scrolling through hobbyking and blasterparts, and know I can understand almost all of it, I would be a dumbass without the internet.
In your paper you say that we want the darts to skid as they go through the flywheels. Are you saying that knurled/grippy flywheels such as those from Worker should be avoided?
Can you discuss flywheel replacement as in bought or printed and can you use 18650 batteries for power ?
Does overvolting a motor cause it to draw more current?
Could you do a Desolater build? I love the gun and I think giving it a fullauto kit and a forward barrel attachment can make it pretty slick.
Great video, very thorough. Would love to hear your opinion on the pros/cons of using mosfets or relays, along with the use of NiMH batteries.
It seems like I'm going ot have to now! -R
Helpful and informative as always. Love this channel
If I run a 9v (yes I know its not the best option) in my stryfe with every battery (exept for the 9v itself) being a dummy battery, there would only be 9v running in it as oppose to the standard mod (With a 9v and no dummy batteries), would it burn out my stryfe? Please respond. Thank you.
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Bloxer I don't know, but don't run 9vs. They will run out super quickly and not provide much current.
Subscribed because of this video, it was a lot of help and keep up the good work
Thanks! -R
I'd love if you guys did mofset and relay vids!!
Great video as always! Keep up fantastic work guys.
Hey MTB, I finally got around to making my rapidstrike Uzi but I'm not sure what to do with it. I am not allowed any sort of lithium battery in my household so lipos are out of the question. I am not a massive nerfer, I just like playing around the house so super fast flywheels aren't really needed I do however want a high ROF so I thought, what can I do. And I came up with this:
Keep the stock wiring, replace the pusher motor with a honey badger, and use a 7.2 volt nimh pack. Will that setup increase my rate of fire? Thanks
Make.Test.Battle would you mind adding a link for the motors, micro switch, and wire you used on your Stryfe build
well now guess you could say you are number one
We're teaching Villains how to have fun.
-Justin
these guys are the tech Syndicate of needing TH-camrs
watching this a 2nd time a year later, I understand so much more. great job
on a rapid strike with no mods what would you use for a lipo so you can save money on batteries?
So If I use two rhinos for the flywheels and one honey badger for the pusher in my rapidstrike, do I get a 3S and a 2S and have them running on two different circuits? PLS answer.
Honeybadgers in the pusher on 3S are really high rate of fire -R
The second excellent video I've read from you. Thank you again, well done.
Is there any motors that 3 IMRs will be able to supply the current and amps? I just bought 4 IMR's. And I was initially going to run stock motors. But I that would ruin the motor. So would your mtb rhino motors be able to supply their full potential with IMR's?
Thanks Ryan! This video was really helpful! Also have you guys ever made a Rayvipfire (rapidstrike + rayven) or a stryfeturion? (Stryfe + centurion)
9:05 of course not in Nerf but there are batteries like that on some things like I have seen Lithium-ion batteries with that many volts and that many cells for electric bicycles
Make.Test.Battle what charger and wall connecter/power supply do you recommend?
mosfet and relay video would be awesome. Also I have been wondering if pwm module would be beneficial in flywheel based blaster? Where do you guys get ur motors and are you going to do anymore videos on hpa stuff?
1) Yeah
2) Not really
3) China
4) Definitely
-R
Good job on explaining the subject. I found it very helpful.
Great video. Thanks. I would like to see a video covering the torque and RPM differences between brushed and brushless.
It is verrrrry hard to find the exact figures for brushless motors but a guy on the Nerf Reddit page did some testing and the ones he used seemed to perform similar to top tier 180 motors which is quite surprising. That said, there are *many* different brushless motors so whos to say some aren't better.
I will definitely cover the differences between brushed and brushless in the detailed motor video -R
Congrats on 65K!
road to 66,666 -R
Will using a 2S LiPo for 180 motors (like Hellcats) damage the motors for continuous use?
Love the new logo
@.Make Test Battle hey nice video very informative. I'm from the drone community,nit auto dji but hand soldered freestyle quads. The lipo batteries that go upto 4.2x are HV (high voltage) standard lipos charge upto 3.8v. Tha k's for the vid I'll be using it to mod mine! Cheers.
Could you get rid of the batteries and install a Milwaukee battery? Just asking, I’m not sure if it would work
Should I use Energizer Rechargeable batteries in my modulus stryfe?
Micro switch link not found on the "below" section. Can you link what type you used (in the rapidstrike mod video).
So when searching for a Lipo, do I search for a Discharge rating that is equivalent to all the motors draw added together? Or is it just the motor with the highest draw? Sorry if this makes no sense :P
Hey Ryan! Thanks for this. Though I know the basics, it is great to have a comprehensive guide that can be linked to when people ask questions. One thing I did notice however is that you didn't go over pusher motor stuff, probably by design. I think it would be good to note that Honeybadgers and I assume Wolverines (Don't have any yet!) run great for high ROF Rapidstrikes.
PS- 10S2P LiPo's exist!!! I've seen them, but I don't think you can (or would ever want to?) buy one anymore...
I did go over it very briefly, but its hard to give a good explanation of the torque requirements while keeping it simple. the rule of thumb is divide max RPM by about 4,500 for the Rate of Fire. Also I'm sure they do exist but I was just using it as an illustrative example -R
Is a motor's stall current affected by over/undervolting?
do the little circuit boards on stock motors do anything important
What voltage alarm would you use and where would you put it?
Do ALL aftermarket motors have carbon brushes? XP180's and Blade 180's?
Yep, both do! XP180s have removable brushes in case they need to be replaced, which is nice.
Well, certain motors don't *cough* RM2s *cough*. But generally, pretty much any commonly used motor in the NIC will have carbon brushes.
Cool thx!
But with how cheap Rhinos and Honeybadgers are now going with RM2s just don't seem worth it anymore... I pay about $7 for a pair of Rhinos shipped.
Nobody uses RM2 any more... they are just sub par and not even worth the cheaper price -R
I know this video is a bit old and dunno if you still check the comments but I have a question..... if I intergrate a cordless drill battery into the handle of a blaster, what motors would you suggest and would a 12v battery be too much (obviously it would be better to use lower voltage) but most drills I'm finding come with a 12v.
Not sure if you understood the video but a 3s Battery has an operating voltage from 12.6v to 11.1v.
The real question is if the battery can handle the current output.
-Justin
I want to know about the hornet guts in the background, any plans?
Ordering parts and summoning motivation.
-Justin
I have a strife I re wired upgraded switches and did small motor upgrades what 180 motors should I buy from you site I already have the shell cut
I have a question. I have Honeybadgers. My preferred battery is sold out (25C with 35C stall). There's a similar size pack that is 40C. Now, does the increased potential for current mean it will burn the motors? Or does the fact that the motors draw current mean it won't change or hurt the circuit? (I'm running it on a mosfet system, should that matter).
TL;DR does excessive current potential in a battery cause any issues in lifespan of a motor? Or is merely going to be wasted potential?
Forget it, I was rewatching while I typed this and you just answered it. Ignore me haha.
Great video, Filled in a gap I had on Lipo and made me wanna make a 2s2p 18650 battery tray for my next Stryfe build. Luckily I have a 3d printer and knowledge of vape batteries (Most common application of 18650 by non hobbiests) Wish me luck
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me using switches i pulled out of a microwave for my deplorable build
Are they ANY Aftermarket motors for IMR Batteries?
I want to make my havko fire firing faster. What battery should I put please
can I use a 3, 14500 trustfire batteries with MTB HoneyBadger motors. I'm on a budget nerf Stryfe build.
Thanks Ryan, this is a great video, (as most of yours are) and helped me a lot in choice of motors and batteries.
I'll be buying M.T.B. motors from now on (Fang Revamped make me want to retch) and some Neo-Rhino's for my Modulus, Hyperfire, Rapidstrike and Regulator Builds, probably even my Mega Mastodon (with some shims to hold the motors in place), what pusher motor do you think would work best on a 3S setup with Neo-Rhino motors? I can do motor braking to avoid runaway firing, so that doesn't worry me, ideally I want to stick with 130 size cans, just for the simplicity and less internal and external shell cutting.
Honeybadgers are 2S, right? So could I use a 3S Rhino as a pusher without any issues?
Great and informative video as always Ryan. Quick question... what are the current draws for stock Stryfe and stock Zeus motors?
Thanks but I have no idea! -R
*We are number one at the beginning*
Me: PERFECT 10/10 BEST VIDEO IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING UNIVERSE!
How about the 9V battery on the table? You don't mention this, is it okay with a stock motor/switch/wiring or is it just totally shit?
So does anyone see anything wrong with running 2 hellcats and a rhino as the pusher in a Hyperfire@3s? Or should I go with wolverines as the flywheels and rhino as the pusher? I don't currently have any 2s lipos. So basically what is the best setup for a Hyperfire on 3s.
Cheers, Zayne :)
Use the hellcats for flywheel motors -R
will 3s Lipo fry stock rapidstrike pusher motor? I can't find any suitable pusher motors anywhere, I get it I should ideally get around 10000rpm but I'm feeling lost
What store in Melbourne did you get the wire from? Jaycar?
Altronics. Waaaaay better than Jaycar I find -R
Did you really use a techno version of we are number one? If so, then thank you
Yes. A synthwave version. Most of the music is synthwave.
-Justin
Make.Test.Battle that's cool
Can u use stock motors on 3 ultrafires?
We Are Number one intro :3
Great video guys very helpful thanks
Glad to help.
-Justin
How fast is the spin up time for brushless motors
this video is just what i need.
also, time stamps at 1:03 don't work.
EDIT: found links in description.
Hey guys can you send me a link for a lipo for a Rayven I'm using 130 rhinos
I feel like you didn't watch the video properly, if you did, you should have the tools you need to pick a battery out yourself.
I have found one but it doesn't ship to Australia
Then find another one.
Try a local hobby shop, somewhere that carries RC cars and planes, why waste effort on shipping?
PAPO1990 I got mine at a local rc shop
so i have a quiestion. i am building a honeybadger 2s build and was wondering what wire would be better?
15 awg or 21 awg wire since they´re the only wiresi am able to find. (also i know those are wierd numbers but i live in sweden so accept it lol)
I still don't fully understand why 180 motors would take less cells (2S) as opposed to 130 motors taking more cells (3S), since you're applying less voltage to the larger motors than the smaller motors. I've never used Lipo batteries, so I can only assume that it's because 2S can discharge a much higher current? Still learning, trying to do the best I can.
i dont see the link for the switches. could you put that in?
I'm still really overwhelmed when looking for a LiPo, as there are so many brands. Is there a preferred brand or model for a stryfe running rhinos? Will be using Jase3d's low profile extender.
We run Zippy compacts in seven of our blasters.
-Justin
I'm running a 1000ma zippy compact 3s lipo with 3 xp180s (one for the pusher). Would this be advisable?
Not sure because a good spec sheet for XP180s doesn't exist AFAIK but it depends on the C rating as well as the capacity. I would allow 30 amps per XP180 conservatively -R
Is it worth lipoing stock motors, or only if you are upgrading the motors?
Not really. The stock motors have metal brushes that will quickly wear out on higher voltages so you will see a performance increase, but the motor will eventually give out. If you are going to the effort of LiPo battery upgrade, you may as well spend the extra $10 for replacement motors -R
Hey, Ryan, I've got a question. Will 180 motors work with a 2S LiPo?
I feel like I answered that quite succinctly in the video -R
Make.Test.Battle hmmm.... I must have skipped over that part. I'll look through the video.
does any one ever use motors that are not these standard 180 you talk about there is a massive selection on hobby sites for in runner motors with 3d printers modifications or building a mount for them could be done?