Can’t wait to see npcs in the game friendly and hostile, roaming traders would be awesome and maybe bandits guarding towns and poi’s would make going into a town to loot that much more challenging especially in single player where all you have to think about at the minute is puppets and maybe the occasional bear
@@aaronmccartney6861 well...there are servers that disable them, ..it's a very corrupt corporation and they have an advance AI and Mech...I don't see why they would waste human resources there unless they just clean messes or maintenance guys
Dayz was just flat out abandoned and its die hard fans just wont admit it... game went from alpha as fuck with barely functioning features to SURPRISE 1.0 WE DID IT WOOOO and it was literally the same mess it was the patch before. Played the game nearly a decade and it will always be special to me but the devs just said fuck it release modding tools and let people fix it themselves and occasionally release bullshit pointless patches that are so overshadowed by mods it wasnt even worth the effort. Dayz has this effect of trapping people because theres "nothing else like it out" and i think its because this game has flown so under the radar
I really do hope that you are right. Scum is a great game. I would switch to it as my favorite survival game, but it still feels to arcady to me. DayZ still is my favorite because of its sound a geberal feel.
THISSS!!!! that is one of those things that only dayz has and will probably never be topped. And also keeping in mind that dayz has got only 8 people working on it. So if bohemia int. Increases the amount of people working on the game we can actually see a far less buggy and stable game.
In DayZ not only your PVP skill matters, but also how thoroughly you can loot, because I can find stuff I need in a town that was already "looted". I sometimes run into a situation, where a guy threatens me with an empty gun and after I kill him I find a mag and several rounds he missed.
pvp skill is all that matters, everyone in dayz has the same type of recoil, not scum, if your rifle skill is to low you're recoil will suck same goes for everything else
I think it depends on your desires. Personally, I think that Scum and Dayz should go in separate directions to appease separate audiences. I hope Scum continues to develop the intelligence and character skill system. On the other hand, I hope Dayz never adopts such a system. There's something to be said for an expert player being able to hop in and not be constrained by an artificial skill system. I also think Dayz's atmosphere will never be matched. I don't know if it's the map design, the color palate, the sounds, or what, but Dayz just has a feeling like no other (well, other than Arma, of course).
@@PathfinderPlays DayZ was never meant to be pvp. Dean Halls vision was that while there would be some element of pvp, it would be more about survival. The difficulty was making things hard for those that decided they wanted to pvp and how to implement that
Sorry man, but I dont see DayZ having a nail in the coffin. they are just now starting with normal updates and fixing gamebreaking bugs. I cant say much about Scum, because I have never played it, but I do know that DayZ has a very dedicated player base, even with the bugs its had. It will only get better
That's fine, I know dayz won't go anywhere. This video was based mainly on what scum is doing right, not what dayz has done wrong. I stand by my argument though. Dayz is a great game still tho
got over 600hrs from this january in dayz... im tired of those bugs. everybody just defend the game.. nobody cares about catfood and chips patch if they cant fix ads or another huge bugs... breaking legs because of bad ingame physics etc.. Zedz only get more OP because of damage they deal or distance they hear, but still they cant find the doors into the house... and i can continue with lot more :)))) i love this game as much as i hate this game. so.... lets get ready for the rumble. it will be only for everyone good if they will have proper competition.
Medicine! No one kills doctors, right? :-D I have loved SCUM since the beginning. I've not played for a while because for a time it got too PvP focused. (Did I mention that I suck at PvP? lol) But what is captivating and has me holding my breath for 0.5 is the implementation of injury and disease. Finally! Now I can do things in-game that I can be good at! Hope to see you all real soon!
Tbh haven't played either game but from watching videos and ur streams I think both games are good, but I also think scum is a little better bcs I like realism and it also has more potencial and the devs seem to be working hard on the game
I love scum. If they optimize it more it will pass dayz in my opinion. I just get random stutters which a developer said is when a town or section of the map loads In. I have a 9900K and a 2080ti and the game runs great. It’s those mini stutters that happen that turn me off..... for now. But I agree that it will pass dayz.
If developers of Dying Light make a survival game like DayZ or SCUM without quests or missions; work on expanding survival mechanics. Include voice chat and allow 60+ players; That will be the best game
Dead Matter is far behind and is not open for the public yet, QI need to get the groundwork done first before adding stuff. It also has some different goals in terms of gameplay i guess. And The Day before could just be a scam since nobody knows anything about the game other than it is created by company with bad trackrecord :P
@@PathfinderPlays I like Scum for being so stable with some really good groundwork and good attention to detail when it comes to environment and animation. That alone that you can shoot a crow and put it in your backpack is really a fun feature :P
@Pathfinder have u see that the last of us 2 gameplay where they pull bag to take out something from the bag and it look also realistic don't u thing dayz and Deadmatter and other game should also use that same kind if animation to take out something from bag and not just show inventory box its very old fashion please address this thing in your video to reach out devs of any survival game. Please
one thing i can tell for sure! YOURE RIGHT ABOUT IT. dayz makes you feel all that good and emmersive stuff! scum may surprass dayz in many ways wich i dont doubt. BUT dayz will always be dayz dude :) cheers
I love my DayZ, and the ambience on it is really nice, but you are right what you said. I watched a bit of Scum and it does have those added detailed survival elements to the game, especially that Vanilla experience to it.
great video. I loved dayz for many years, but I have washed my hands of it. I picked up scum when it first came out and really liked it but my PC at the time could not run it properly. I have upgraded my computer big time and bought my wife a gaming PC. We love playing scum and are so excited for the new update! how many slots do you have on your server?
0.6 came out with the metabolism revamp, and now, since I pissed off my friend a little bit too much, I know how it feels to get shot in game. AND IT IS SO DAMN IMPACTFUL. I legit got so scared when I got hit because it was so damn impactful.
i have like 1500 hours in dayz and 20 hours in scum...i cannot agree.. for me scum is just a boring and generic game..map is boring and empty, gunplay is awful and so on..but thats just my opinion.. btw i stopped playing dayz too..its outdated imo..it had its peak..
I was involved with the very first Arma, Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis, and I now prefer SCUM to Arma because my character and the world feels much more alive in SCUM and I fear death much more. If there is one thing I can do without in SCUM, it would be the science-fictiony elements. If I could have something closer to Dead Side's gameplay in SCUM, I would be in heaven.
right on about the mods in dayz. I have a server with 90+ mods and have created a totally different world. when I'm over it, an update with wipe, whatever.. I can choose from hundreds mods to recreate the server. 9000+ hrs on DayZ with my wife and Ive had a ton of memories made with people all over the world. One of my favorite games of all time and what welcomed me to survival games. I tried scum a while back, and to be honest.. At first it was to good. A lot of small tedious things to know, so many items to loot, just very overwhelming. However, it was exactly what I was trying to get out of DayZ with all the mods. I just started a single player and 3 days in I'm rather enjoying it. But DayZ killer..? Rival at the most I'd say.
I feel like you kind of ignore the whole segment of the of DayZ community that plays on servers like DayOne and enjoys a style of DayZ with no bases where dying isn't a big deal, just the start of a new adventure. Making it easier to gear up after a death by having a base or "fame" sounds less fun to me but I will give SCUM a try at some point, looks like a really cool game.
I've said it before And I'll say it again I do NOT regret buying scum at all We just have to remember the best things come to those who are patient Now... scum with steam workshop would make me ascend to the heavens! One day :P Great vid dude
The thing about dayz is it just recived new backing with more funding and more devs dedicate to the game and the new backers wanting to bring the game to more countries most mentioned is china witch I see dayz booming in the near future.
All well said. I also think 0.5 will change the game big time and from there updates will flow and come faster since they upgraded the team by 20 more people.
my main issue with Scum as much as i love the game, is the glitch where your guns will disappear in your inventory, me and my 2 cousins have been playing for about a week and we love the experience so far, but the game owes us three like 2 DEagles and a good few M9's lol, It isn't too big of an issue i guess, but it surely is annoying
IM not 100% with you that modding will be the deathnail, but if what you say about the health stat and progression system with the lore is correct, then you are right that eventually it will surpass dayz but by then dayz will be a decade old and it will be time for new blood. Ive talked to you in your chat before, and I got scum the day it came out and then went right back to dayz. but if these things are added and the map and player base is expanded, yes its only a matter of time, until then ill be over here playing dayz
Look scum is a great game, i love it, it's my favorite of the 2 but for it to take over it would need far more then just a better vanilla experience and some mod tools, it would have to be an extensive easy to use modding system for both modders and server owners and it would need enough of a playerbase and private servers for modders to even sink time into it, the main reason why Ark survival evolved has many more mods then Atlas and atlas is lacking in mods is that players never latched onto atlas as much as they did to ark (admittedly due to bugs) but most modders have forgotten about atlas despite it having an even better modding system then ark's (it's literally an improved version of arks), the reason many modders left atlas is a lack of players, and in scums case this could be a reason for a modder not to come to scum Scum is doing great, with an average of nearly 7K players over the past month but dayz (alongside of already being out for years and therefore already having a backlog of years of mods) has 3times the amount of that, so even more key to scums success is not good mod tools, not a good vanilla experience, all of wich I am confident that scum is already doing or will do soon, what it needs is the RIGHT mods, many people play a certain mod and without the EXACT mods they won't cross over, a great example is the drugrunning cartels in dayz, you could make the best dayz or scum server but they love the economy aspect of traders and having to run trips selling the not so legal substances to get on top
Scum will surpass. Agreed 100%. I’m just hoping they add NPC bandits, missions, more crafting/building (snap building with multiple tiers that require mining and smelting), and open it up to mods. I’m dying to live in a survival world. Right now I’m just on dayz and bored with the game and mods available.
They already planned npc, bandits or I think resistance This is some hunger games/dayz inspired game.. With small element of cyberpunk Not sure if I heard it correctly but you can replace body with parts with mechanical limbs in the future
Dayz is the original modded version from the great “ARMA”... Mic drop.... Dayz may die again one day, but it’ll come back alive and bite you. Thus infecting you again to be amongst the living genre...
I played scum for the first time and i have to say i did not enjoy the game whatsoever. It was very boring and it falls into the same issues that dayz struggles with. The POIs are too spaced out and they both live up to the walking simulator idea. That being said have you considered 7 Days to Die? The POIs are interesting, the environment is totally destructible (even the terrain) you can craft a base from the ground up or you can find a building and place a land claim block down to claim the area. There are quests, hidden treasures, interesting zombies, etc! The crafting/skill system is very intuitive and really cool to use! You can either learn skills through leveling up or you can find schematics that gives you skills that are either early game or even late game skills. The weapons are super cool to use and they are all craftable as well (however i love finding weapons and gear through looting cuz it is exciting to find these items) i definitely hope they continue to add more and more weapons and weapon types to change the game up. I havent gotten into farming yet but it seems to be pretty strait forward and fun to do as well! In terms of the survival genre i would give 7D2D a 9.5 out of 10 where as DayZ would be a 7 out of 10 and Scum is a 5 out of 10 for me.
Thanks for taking the time to respond. I do agree that scum can be a walking simulator, but any game that is open world and makes you walk, can be considered a walking simulator. What makes a game like this not a walking simulator is having things you can do while traveling. I have found scum does this well by incorporating its metabolism system and allowing you to get food from nature. So while you are walking, you can search logs, corn fields, bushes, trees for things to eat to help get you where you're going. Of course it isn't perfect and more should be added, but I don't think it's that bad. And I have not played too much 7d2d honestly, maybe I'll check with it again!
@@PathfinderPlays i appreciate your response to my response lol! I hope i didnt come across as toxic for sure but at least my first impression with Scum wasnt that great. But of course it is possible the things that are boring about the game just so happened to me at once and there is more to the game that i just didnt give it enough time. I might try it out again once that update you mentioned drops! But yeah i definitely recommend 7D2D. I started playing it about a month ago and i havent enjoyed a survival game this much since i first played minecraft. (That was years ago). It has almost everything i want in an open world survival game! I only wish i played it sooner. I hope the devs are still actively working on it because there are of course a few things that needs either a revisit/rework and new things are always welcome of course! Have a fantastic day Pathfinder! (PS i discovered your channel through DeadMatter and i really hope that game makes a comeback and starts living up to the hype that was surrounding it)
and i "kinda" agree with you when u say comunity keep the game alive. its kinda true. but there still a lot of people that prefer vanilla servers... true dayz is meant to be played on vanilla servers. BUT its not for everyone. dayz was meant to be more focused on survival aspect and choice when it comes to real life players. even so there's more people looking for more PVP focus.
There's not much survival aspect in the wilderness sadly.. In the end, your only choice is look for places with buildings... Not even the mods can provide more for it
Okay, hear this... Scum isn’t committed to one universe with both robots and zombie and Lord knows what... What i enjoy with DayZ in terms of “survival”, is that you just don’t get loot easy like that, you have to earn it... Kill on sight so you don’t expose gamer tags.. The anxiety for me in DayZ will and always be better and more hardcore survival for me and the majority of the people... You have no idea if you shot a guy from some faction.
another thing im getting tired in dayz is the actual time they take to make so few changes. and most of them are stupid bug fixes that should not be there at this point. it makes me wonder what will become of it. it feels like they're fine with its actual content and state. cars are so anoiyng when the server has a lot of players in it. damn 8 years i have to admit it should be much better at this moment. bases are so not cool in vanilla for example. i dont know. maybe im just getting tired of it. the thing is! i have scum and played it only for like 30 to 40 hours and its not even installed right now on my system. and i still rather play dayz after more than 1600 hours of gameplay. a mix of both strong points of the 2 games would be perfect. and yeah fewer changes to scum would be needed. but the strongest points in dayz are the key in my opinion. thats what my barins tell me xD. sounds for example like you said. sound is soooo important and lots of people including devs dont realize that.
You don't need a team to be effective a pvp, you just need to adjust your play style and pick fights smartly. Also need to avoid conflict in certain areas and at certain times and play with more intent. This is mainly why I go with a bow and silenced pistol. Easier to stay quiet but cause some good damage.
@@PathfinderPlays a game wont ''die' to another a game because dayz has its own playerbase.scum may gain popularity but simply put dayz will only die to itself
He has less than a handful of... not positive? (I guess) videos about dayz.. how is his whole channel focused on it? or are you only watching those videos probably?
@@PathfinderPlays The thing is that you are talking about ''Hardcore survival'' well for me personally and i bet for a lot off ppl this kind of stuff is something what noone needs. It is supposted to be fun and there is no fun of surviving several diseases or stuff like that the fun is in PVP and from my perspective if you just look at the movement of character ... bro it is just so bad i can right now imagine how bad it will look. The only thing that i liked about this video was nicely driving car xD but i hope that will be fixed somehow in dayz one day too.
Can’t wait to see npcs in the game friendly and hostile, roaming traders would be awesome and maybe bandits guarding towns and poi’s would make going into a town to loot that much more challenging especially in single player where all you have to think about at the minute is puppets and maybe the occasional bear
You forgot mechs...
@@williamthekiller7219 I personally hate the mechs id rather see the poi’s guarded by tech 1 staff than those annoying aim bots
@@aaronmccartney6861 well...there are servers that disable them, ..it's a very corrupt corporation and they have an advance AI and Mech...I don't see why they would waste human resources there unless they just clean messes or maintenance guys
Dayz was just flat out abandoned and its die hard fans just wont admit it... game went from alpha as fuck with barely functioning features to SURPRISE 1.0 WE DID IT WOOOO and it was literally the same mess it was the patch before. Played the game nearly a decade and it will always be special to me but the devs just said fuck it release modding tools and let people fix it themselves and occasionally release bullshit pointless patches that are so overshadowed by mods it wasnt even worth the effort. Dayz has this effect of trapping people because theres "nothing else like it out" and i think its because this game has flown so under the radar
I really do hope that you are right. Scum is a great game. I would switch to it as my favorite survival game, but it still feels to arcady to me. DayZ still is my favorite because of its sound a geberal feel.
I think dayz has better ambiance and the color pallet makes it more gritty. I agree
THISSS!!!!
that is one of those things that only dayz has and will probably never be topped.
And also keeping in mind that dayz has got only 8 people working on it. So if bohemia int. Increases the amount of people working on the game we can actually see a far less buggy and stable game.
@@dylanjansen5755 lol!
@@dylanjansen5755 they decided to better use that asset to Arma
I am really glad I jumped into Scum. Its really my type of survival game. Plus being on your server is just a great bonus!
I'm playing scum right now checking the water update, DayZ will never die to this game! this game isn't good enough to OP DayZ
In DayZ not only your PVP skill matters, but also how thoroughly you can loot, because I can find stuff I need in a town that was already "looted". I sometimes run into a situation, where a guy threatens me with an empty gun and after I kill him I find a mag and several rounds he missed.
pvp skill is all that matters, everyone in dayz has the same type of recoil, not scum, if your rifle skill is to low you're recoil will suck same goes for everything else
You can already mess with optics.. Bullet physics should improve so you'll feel the need to adjust your optics on longer distance or due to wind
I think it depends on your desires. Personally, I think that Scum and Dayz should go in separate directions to appease separate audiences. I hope Scum continues to develop the intelligence and character skill system. On the other hand, I hope Dayz never adopts such a system. There's something to be said for an expert player being able to hop in and not be constrained by an artificial skill system. I also think Dayz's atmosphere will never be matched. I don't know if it's the map design, the color palate, the sounds, or what, but Dayz just has a feeling like no other (well, other than Arma, of course).
They have gone in seperate directions I think. Scum is more survival based, dayz is more pvp I think. Especially when 0.5 starts
@@PathfinderPlays DayZ was never meant to be pvp. Dean Halls vision was that while there would be some element of pvp, it would be more about survival. The difficulty was making things hard for those that decided they wanted to pvp and how to implement that
I know it's not intended, but it still is
That's because Dayz was made after REAL WORLD landscape.
@@PathfinderPlays wrong... Dayz is only pvp on community servers.
Sorry man, but I dont see DayZ having a nail in the coffin. they are just now starting with normal updates and fixing gamebreaking bugs. I cant say much about Scum, because I have never played it, but I do know that DayZ has a very dedicated player base, even with the bugs its had. It will only get better
That's fine, I know dayz won't go anywhere. This video was based mainly on what scum is doing right, not what dayz has done wrong. I stand by my argument though. Dayz is a great game still tho
got over 600hrs from this january in dayz... im tired of those bugs. everybody just defend the game.. nobody cares about catfood and chips patch if they cant fix ads or another huge bugs... breaking legs because of bad ingame physics etc.. Zedz only get more OP because of damage they deal or distance they hear, but still they cant find the doors into the house... and i can continue with lot more :)))) i love this game as much as i hate this game. so.... lets get ready for the rumble. it will be only for everyone good if they will have proper competition.
Medicine! No one kills doctors, right? :-D
I have loved SCUM since the beginning. I've not played for a while because for a time it got too PvP focused. (Did I mention that I suck at PvP? lol) But what is captivating and has me holding my breath for 0.5 is the implementation of injury and disease. Finally! Now I can do things in-game that I can be good at!
Hope to see you all real soon!
See you then!!
@@PathfinderPlays :)
Nice vid. I have been watching this game for a while. It looks awesome you think it will come to series X.
It'll come to console eventually
Nah don't think so tbh
Tbh haven't played either game but from watching videos and ur streams I think both games are good, but I also think scum is a little better bcs I like realism and it also has more potencial and the devs seem to be working hard on the game
I always appreciate hearing from you David!
@@PathfinderPlays :)
havent played either of the game but been watching streamers play each of them and ill go Scum any time of the day. it just seems SO much better.
I love scum. If they optimize it more it will pass dayz in my opinion. I just get random stutters which a developer said is when a town or section of the map loads In. I have a 9900K and a 2080ti and the game runs great. It’s those mini stutters that happen that turn me off..... for now. But I agree that it will pass dayz.
I agree, needs more optimization
I got 10 FPS in the city
I get 45. Definitely room for improvement
Mate if the occasional "mini stutter" puts you off playing a game that's currently in development than you're just being picky
Hell I play Scum @ 2K res on a 1060 just fine.
If developers of Dying Light make a survival game like DayZ or SCUM without quests or missions; work on expanding survival mechanics. Include voice chat and allow 60+ players; That will be the best game
Yeah yeah, if if if lol smh
Yes you are right but what about the other upcoming game Deadmatter and the day before what about them in this 2 battle what about them.
Dead Matter is far behind and is not open for the public yet, QI need to get the groundwork done first before adding stuff. It also has some different goals in terms of gameplay i guess. And The Day before could just be a scam since nobody knows anything about the game other than it is created by company with bad trackrecord :P
They arnt even in the running. One is broke to hell, the other we have yet to see any actual gameplay
@@PathfinderPlays I like Scum for being so stable with some really good groundwork and good attention to detail when it comes to environment and animation. That alone that you can shoot a crow and put it in your backpack is really a fun feature :P
@Pathfinder have u see that the last of us 2 gameplay where they pull bag to take out something from the bag and it look also realistic don't u thing dayz and Deadmatter and other game should also use that same kind if animation to take out something from bag and not just show inventory box its very old fashion please address this thing in your video to reach out devs of any survival game. Please
Nice video my dude
Thank you!
one thing i can tell for sure! YOURE RIGHT ABOUT IT. dayz makes you feel all that good and emmersive stuff! scum may surprass dayz in many ways wich i dont doubt. BUT dayz will always be dayz dude :) cheers
Dayz will always be dayz, and I hope it stays that way. It's always been unapologetically itself, and that's something not seen often in games
@@PathfinderPlays couldnt have said better myself dude. cheers
I love my DayZ, and the ambience on it is really nice, but you are right what you said. I watched a bit of Scum and it does have those added detailed survival elements to the game, especially that Vanilla experience to it.
Exactly, thank you for being open minded!
great video. I loved dayz for many years, but I have washed my hands of it. I picked up scum when it first came out and really liked it but my PC at the time could not run it properly. I have upgraded my computer big time and bought my wife a gaming PC. We love playing scum and are so excited for the new update! how many slots do you have on your server?
I think 40 right now, you guys are more than welcome to try it out and join the discord!
I don't understand how you play that game for years man. I played dayz for like 2 months and I was done because of the bugs and glitches.
@@aa-kz7hc you need a LOT of patience to play that game and not break your monitor
When it gets too complicated it gets boring.
May have to check this game out, looks like it has a lot more features than Dayz. The survival part is what makes a game addictive. Gr8 video !
Go for it!
There is a single player sandbox option to get your feet wet. with a god mode if you want sugest you start there have fun!
0.6 came out with the metabolism revamp, and now, since I pissed off my friend a little bit too much, I know how it feels to get shot in game. AND IT IS SO DAMN IMPACTFUL. I legit got so scared when I got hit because it was so damn impactful.
Hope you are doing good on your new path man! Miss your videos!
"Consistent Updates"? DayZ? lulz you're joking right?
Lol not super consistent I guess, but yearly
You're wrong Pathfinder! how could you do this... SCUM actually hit over 11k people this month ;) lol great vid man.
Fantastic!
Peak players 11k, average being 6k 💀💀💀
@@shanzelo Yes its doubled its average player base in the last 12 months, quite good for a pre alpha actually.
@@shanzelo Yeah and it sold much more than Rust did, in its legacy days too. But appraently you dont understand Early Stage?
@@DanielOutdoors this game is out for ages =)))) "early stage btw"
i have like 1500 hours in dayz and 20 hours in scum...i cannot agree.. for me scum is just a boring and generic game..map is boring and empty, gunplay is awful and so on..but thats just my opinion.. btw i stopped playing dayz too..its outdated imo..it had its peak..
Great video mate awesome points. Would be great to see you on boydy’s podcast to chat about it too
I might do it
Dayz is more realalistic that’s all I’m going to say
I was involved with the very first Arma, Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis, and I now prefer SCUM to Arma because my character and the world feels much more alive in SCUM and I fear death much more. If there is one thing I can do without in SCUM, it would be the science-fictiony elements. If I could have something closer to Dead Side's gameplay in SCUM, I would be in heaven.
right on about the mods in dayz. I have a server with 90+ mods and have created a totally different world. when I'm over it, an update with wipe, whatever.. I can choose from hundreds mods to recreate the server. 9000+ hrs on DayZ with my wife and Ive had a ton of memories made with people all over the world. One of my favorite games of all time and what welcomed me to survival games.
I tried scum a while back, and to be honest.. At first it was to good. A lot of small tedious things to know, so many items to loot, just very overwhelming. However, it was exactly what I was trying to get out of DayZ with all the mods. I just started a single player and 3 days in I'm rather enjoying it. But DayZ killer..? Rival at the most I'd say.
what i love about dayZ is the base building, you can easily baricade / take over buildings which is something that you cannot do in Scum
You can take over building in scum tho
I feel like you kind of ignore the whole segment of the of DayZ community that plays on servers like DayOne and enjoys a style of DayZ with no bases where dying isn't a big deal, just the start of a new adventure. Making it easier to gear up after a death by having a base or "fame" sounds less fun to me but I will give SCUM a try at some point, looks like a really cool game.
I've said it before
And I'll say it again
I do NOT regret buying scum at all
We just have to remember the best things come to those who are patient
Now... scum with steam workshop would make me ascend to the heavens! One day :P
Great vid dude
The thing about dayz is it just recived new backing with more funding and more devs dedicate to the game and the new backers wanting to bring the game to more countries most mentioned is china witch I see dayz booming in the near future.
Exactly!! What ppl forget is scum and others are knock offs of Dayz
I played dayz for 6 years scum has more to offer in the crafting area 100%
I have been a bit behind on your videos Path. Thanks for the upload.
No problem buddy!
They are different games . Pvp wise they couldn’t be more different . One is skill based , one is attribute based .
Vanilla Dayz is good to me!🤷♂️
All well said. I also think 0.5 will change the game big time and from there updates will flow and come faster since they upgraded the team by 20 more people.
my main issue with Scum as much as i love the game, is the glitch where your guns will disappear in your inventory, me and my 2 cousins have been playing for about a week and we love the experience so far, but the game owes us three like 2 DEagles and a good few M9's lol, It isn't too big of an issue i guess, but it surely is annoying
For sure, it's getting less and less prevalent though, for me at least
You’ll never take DayZ alive! Never I say!
I love dayz! It'll always be around
Nicholas Stock it will never go the dayz fan base on console is way to huge
Agree lol dayz is here for ever. Dayz is the original mod from Arma. It’s a Mod based game. Truly the best out there.
You forgot the most important thing to a games population is the availability of scum made it to console then it could but dayz numbers will be higher
IM not 100% with you that modding will be the deathnail, but if what you say about the health stat and progression system with the lore is correct, then you are right that eventually it will surpass dayz but by then dayz will be a decade old and it will be time for new blood. Ive talked to you in your chat before, and I got scum the day it came out and then went right back to dayz. but if these things are added and the map and player base is expanded, yes its only a matter of time, until then ill be over here playing dayz
Look scum is a great game, i love it, it's my favorite of the 2 but for it to take over it would need far more then just a better vanilla experience and some mod tools, it would have to be an extensive easy to use modding system for both modders and server owners and it would need enough of a playerbase and private servers for modders to even sink time into it, the main reason why Ark survival evolved has many more mods then Atlas and atlas is lacking in mods is that players never latched onto atlas as much as they did to ark (admittedly due to bugs) but most modders have forgotten about atlas despite it having an even better modding system then ark's (it's literally an improved version of arks), the reason many modders left atlas is a lack of players, and in scums case this could be a reason for a modder not to come to scum
Scum is doing great, with an average of nearly 7K players over the past month but dayz (alongside of already being out for years and therefore already having a backlog of years of mods) has 3times the amount of that, so even more key to scums success is not good mod tools, not a good vanilla experience, all of wich I am confident that scum is already doing or will do soon, what it needs is the RIGHT mods, many people play a certain mod and without the EXACT mods they won't cross over, a great example is the drugrunning cartels in dayz, you could make the best dayz or scum server but they love the economy aspect of traders and having to run trips selling the not so legal substances to get on top
It's not yet console
7k to 11k are pure pc players
@@williamthekiller7219 yes i only spoke about pc for bot hscum and dayz
The real question is will it pass up rust?! Probably not but I think it’s already better than Dayz. Maybe not as popular though......yet.
Scum will surpass. Agreed 100%. I’m just hoping they add NPC bandits, missions, more crafting/building (snap building with multiple tiers that require mining and smelting), and open it up to mods. I’m dying to live in a survival world. Right now I’m just on dayz and bored with the game and mods available.
They already planned npc, bandits or I think resistance
This is some hunger games/dayz inspired game.. With small element of cyberpunk
Not sure if I heard it correctly but you can replace body with parts with mechanical limbs in the future
Dayz is the original modded version from the great “ARMA”... Mic drop.... Dayz may die again one day, but it’ll come back alive and bite you. Thus infecting you again to be amongst the living genre...
LOL wait this is serious? You trolling? DayZ is king and always will be.
Settle down fan boy, don't go feeling all threatened on us now
I played scum for the first time and i have to say i did not enjoy the game whatsoever. It was very boring and it falls into the same issues that dayz struggles with. The POIs are too spaced out and they both live up to the walking simulator idea.
That being said have you considered 7 Days to Die? The POIs are interesting, the environment is totally destructible (even the terrain) you can craft a base from the ground up or you can find a building and place a land claim block down to claim the area. There are quests, hidden treasures, interesting zombies, etc!
The crafting/skill system is very intuitive and really cool to use! You can either learn skills through leveling up or you can find schematics that gives you skills that are either early game or even late game skills.
The weapons are super cool to use and they are all craftable as well (however i love finding weapons and gear through looting cuz it is exciting to find these items) i definitely hope they continue to add more and more weapons and weapon types to change the game up.
I havent gotten into farming yet but it seems to be pretty strait forward and fun to do as well!
In terms of the survival genre i would give 7D2D a 9.5 out of 10 where as DayZ would be a 7 out of 10 and Scum is a 5 out of 10 for me.
Thanks for taking the time to respond. I do agree that scum can be a walking simulator, but any game that is open world and makes you walk, can be considered a walking simulator. What makes a game like this not a walking simulator is having things you can do while traveling. I have found scum does this well by incorporating its metabolism system and allowing you to get food from nature. So while you are walking, you can search logs, corn fields, bushes, trees for things to eat to help get you where you're going. Of course it isn't perfect and more should be added, but I don't think it's that bad.
And I have not played too much 7d2d honestly, maybe I'll check with it again!
@@PathfinderPlays i appreciate your response to my response lol! I hope i didnt come across as toxic for sure but at least my first impression with Scum wasnt that great. But of course it is possible the things that are boring about the game just so happened to me at once and there is more to the game that i just didnt give it enough time. I might try it out again once that update you mentioned drops!
But yeah i definitely recommend 7D2D. I started playing it about a month ago and i havent enjoyed a survival game this much since i first played minecraft. (That was years ago). It has almost everything i want in an open world survival game! I only wish i played it sooner. I hope the devs are still actively working on it because there are of course a few things that needs either a revisit/rework and new things are always welcome of course! Have a fantastic day Pathfinder! (PS i discovered your channel through DeadMatter and i really hope that game makes a comeback and starts living up to the hype that was surrounding it)
I appreciate the conversation! I also hope dead matter makes a comeback!!
The thing is this game might never make it to console which will never kill dayz
and i "kinda" agree with you when u say comunity keep the game alive. its kinda true. but there still a lot of people that prefer vanilla servers... true dayz is meant to be played on vanilla servers. BUT its not for everyone. dayz was meant to be more focused on survival aspect and choice when it comes to real life players. even so there's more people looking for more PVP focus.
There's not much survival aspect in the wilderness sadly.. In the end, your only choice is look for places with buildings... Not even the mods can provide more for it
Sounded like he said there’s a phone version of the game
Where
Shit ion remember😂 I’ll look rq
Nah nvm no I wont it’s too long to look through😂 somewhere in there man
Just got into pc gaming. waiting for scums sale.. :) thnx to ur video
It’s on sale right now! On steam for the lunar steam sale
@@dascitygaming1398 yep.
Seeing few gameplay videos. I'm from India. Der might b a issue with servers. Final research bfr purchase
Lags like hell on me but love it,dayz na couldn't even find a stone..
Okay, hear this... Scum isn’t committed to one universe with both robots and zombie and Lord knows what... What i enjoy with DayZ in terms of “survival”, is that you just don’t get loot easy like that, you have to earn it... Kill on sight so you don’t expose gamer tags.. The anxiety for me in DayZ will and always be better and more hardcore survival for me and the majority of the people... You have no idea if you shot a guy from some faction.
It looks good, but it will never take away some of the funny interactions ive had on dayz lol
If you do not want to get pissed at or lvl 2 of tbagging cause they will shit on you
Better stay there
@@williamthekiller7219 what, i dont follow what you mean?
@@Travsticles88 it's what they do when they kill you
Shit or piss on you
@@williamthekiller7219 ah ok i get you. nah not worried about that, im not bad at pvp
They really need to fix their netcode though that's the biggest issue, if they do that then I would agree that it will easily surpass dayz
Yeah I know people still have issues with that, I don't seem to, but I hope it gets fixed
another thing im getting tired in dayz is the actual time they take to make so few changes. and most of them are stupid bug fixes that should not be there at this point. it makes me wonder what will become of it. it feels like they're fine with its actual content and state. cars are so anoiyng when the server has a lot of players in it. damn 8 years i have to admit it should be much better at this moment. bases are so not cool in vanilla for example. i dont know. maybe im just getting tired of it. the thing is! i have scum and played it only for like 30 to 40 hours and its not even installed right now on my system. and i still rather play dayz after more than 1600 hours of gameplay. a mix of both strong points of the 2 games would be perfect. and yeah fewer changes to scum would be needed. but the strongest points in dayz are the key in my opinion. thats what my barins tell me xD. sounds for example like you said. sound is soooo important and lots of people including devs dont realize that.
You left out the most important reason why DAYZ set's itself apart. IMMERSION AND FILM MAKING!
yes but have you seen fooster scum series. that shit is fire. " but not better than soursweet
You can do that on scum lol that isn't isolated to dayz
I agree 100% i just bought it few days ago i like dayz but scum is superior compared to dayz it is more modern game
For sure
I hope they will make cars claimable on single player to avoid despawn
That would make sense
As long as it's on base, it stays there for me.. Boat too
Only items despawn if not on chest
I quit scum because the AI and robots plus the random dance spot...Like why waste space with nothing around the map..
Single player 👍
This didn’t age that well
It would take over dayz if it made it way to console for sure cant see this ever making it to console though
They said it will come out for console at some point 👌
a year and a half after this upload and Dayz is still king, nice try on the prediction though
Thanks lol
I need to be able to ride those horses instead of just killing and eating them
unless this game makes it to console, itll never pass dayz
Scum is a great Game,if you have a good Team for P v P
Sadly that's true for all these games.. Its not solo player or casual player friendly game.
You don't need a team to be effective a pvp, you just need to adjust your play style and pick fights smartly. Also need to avoid conflict in certain areas and at certain times and play with more intent. This is mainly why I go with a bow and silenced pistol. Easier to stay quiet but cause some good damage.
We need bandits
Well Done
Thanks bud
Scum = un mmorpg no lineal donde escribes tu propia historia jahajahha
Day z will never die tho
You are one of a kind
Thank you
Oh it most definitely will surpass DayZ. What kind of survival game can we not craft basic weaponry?
True true
U can make a nailed baseball bat 😂
Lighting in dayz is horrible still also
Its just on pc, so will still cannot buy all players.
With your voice, you can be saying rubbish but still sounds good
Haha thanks man
If it comes to console yes dayz will die
Dayz had 45,000 peak actually.
Yeah it's quite amazing
Once youtubers start creating great story lines in scum the sheep will follow, I think scum is better then DayZ.
I agree
Agreed
Boooooo! Dayz forever✌ 😁
Dayz rocks
i agree
no it wont
lmao im sure it absolutely will not
Why?
@@PathfinderPlays a game wont ''die' to another a game because dayz has its own playerbase.scum may gain popularity but simply put dayz will only die to itself
why is your whole channel just trying to take down dayz?
He says it's just his opinion
He has less than a handful of... not positive? (I guess) videos about dayz.. how is his whole channel focused on it? or are you only watching those videos probably?
I dont watch all hes vids but I cant even think of one that I watched where he didn't turn focus on trying to convince his viewers to dislike dayz
You clearly aren't watching everything he does, nor did you listen to his opening lines
@@dzilla13 Press the videos button, I couldnt even find videos of him talking about dayz until I searched it on his channel lol
DayZ will alays be uniqe. Nothing will beat it.
Unique doesn't equal unbeatable
@@PathfinderPlays It is the same case as Tarkov everybody was saying exactly the same and look still Dayz shine.
I never heard anybody say Tarkov was a dayz killer lol it's not even the same style of survival game
@@PathfinderPlays The thing is that you are talking about ''Hardcore survival'' well for me personally and i bet for a lot off ppl this kind of stuff is something what noone needs. It is supposted to be fun and there is no fun of surviving several diseases or stuff like that the fun is in PVP and from my perspective if you just look at the movement of character ... bro it is just so bad i can right now imagine how bad it will look. The only thing that i liked about this video was nicely driving car xD but i hope that will be fixed somehow in dayz one day too.
Yeah so you don't like survival aspects in survival games. You like pvp, this conversation isn't for you then lol and that's okay
dayz is dead, the game still buggs wtf devs dont care
Yo which game copied who first lmfao 🤣
That's intellectually dishonest and lazy
Nope
DEADSIDE IS BETTER
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Really would enjoy if dead matter made a come back...
Same
It's a scam so i dont think so
BS
why?
Fu
Who's Fu?
There is a game better it's called RUST!
That game can hardly be equated to these lol