Behringer vs Moog: Minimoog vs Model D The definitive comparison Mini
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A look at how the Behringer Model D compares with the Minimoog.
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Examining how it compares from a sound design and in use perspective - when you turn those knobs does it act like the Moog??
Short answer is yes!!
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Oscillators 1:35
Filters 6:20
FM 11:10
Overdrive 17:40
Some Sounds 21:00
I'm using a Korg Microkey Air 25 for the Model D - plugged into a MIDI interface - not direct to the synth.
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As someone who owns a Moog I am impressed by the Boog. Based on this and other videos I've seen I can understand how for some the price difference can't justify owning the original. Moog owners shouldn't thumb their noses at Behringer or those who praise or like BMD. By the same token I think those who call Moog owners elitist or other kinds of names I can only respond with this thought...if money were not an issue and you were given the chance to own a Porsche or a Chevy Bolt which would you choose? For some they don't care because all that matters is that they get from point A to B, but for others the dream of owning a Porsche is enough to justify such a purchase. I'm just thankful that we now have alternatives and/or options which I see as a win-win for all musicians.
beware the Boog!!
I fully agree with you. Today we have alternatives, among them I see the low cost VSTIs plugins like the miniverse from Cherry Audio, a moog in our PC for only 39 dollars is not to be despised. Today we have alternatives and that is important for all musicians.
Another Model D owner here, I totally commend what you're saying. I own my Model D for a few reasons and some are more irrational than others. Tone, obviously - the overdrive on the Model D still seems unique when pushed and no emulation or copy has really nailed it, and that's where the magic is. But to be honest, it's the romance more than anything. I pay the extra to be entranced by the instrument, to touch something that is historically important and aesthetically beautiful. What can I say!? I understand it isn't technically important, but few things of ultimate worth are. The Boog is a beast! Hats off for the great sound!
I would choose the bolt. I have no need for a high insurance bill or silly sports car.
Unless I could sell the Porsche. If that's allowed, I sell the porsche and now have enough to buy the bolt with plenty left over.
Easy.
Also that's a bad comparison because the Porsche is functionally faster than the bolt, if far less energy efficient.
The beh and moog are basically the same. Nothing like the porsche vs bolt comparison.
you say its a boring video because they sound identical, but it's equally entertaining hearing you say "wow, that's amazing" after each test
Well, it is amazing!
Kek
Oh man, some of the comments here. Fing amazing. We've had the 72 original (completely redone btw) above the Boog, differences were slight at best. Behringer did a great job.
Got lots of great select vintage onhand here but I would have to say the greatest aspect to what Behringer is providing is:
- getting these older synths sound and UI into the hands of a younger gen.
- allowing vintage owners to keep the vintage safe n sound in the studio while taking a low-cost, tactile, equivalent to the stage.
Ignore the self-proclaimers
WOW! BOOG! :-D Such as a meanful word...! Congrats! :-D
Excellent and very just remark there Sir.
I've played around with an original and a Behringer and there is a noticeable difference in practice. Much like the difference between a U67 and a Rode. In practice not much of a difference until you mix it with other sounds. The Behringer is made with surface mount components that are made with current manufacturing processes. It's not a bad sound, just a bit more raspy, dry and less rubbery, less magic than the old Moog. May actually be better for modern stuff
@@hardlife8026 what a load of garbage. Why would surface mount sound different to through hole ?
@@NamelessSmile Well, I can tell you have never tried it. There is a very strong difference, but you know it all, so what's the point of talking to you... Anis ...
Behringer should be paying you for some of these comparisons. Really well done and comprehensive. Some people just forget also that Moog is expensive because the quality of build, materials, and its american. But given today's tech, it's not surprising to see behringer has succeeded so well in recreating classic synths without much compromise to the actual sound or reliability.
Not really because Behringer Monopoly and Poly D are very well built quality feeling sythersizors, and dont feel cheap in any way shape or form.
Yes really because Moog builds minimoogs out of things like a Cherry-wood case where Beh uses plastic, metal panel where Beh uses plastic, etc. Each synth is assembled by hand at Moog out of proud professional tradition. And if it matters to you, Beh is manufactured in China whereas Moog in the States. Because i’m a professional i saved up to own a Sequential Prophet X which is another expensive hand-built synth with wooden panels etc. and honestly, i feel it is absolutely wonderful that people starting out and hobbyists can afford great new gear. Behringer stuff sounds good, very good in many cases. But when you get to the point where you’re a professional musician, things like having the best possible build quality, best possible filter design etc, it really does make a difference. It’s the difference between buying a student violin, vs if you’re playing professionally in an orchestra, owning a professional-quality violin or whatever.
To say there is no difference in quality between an instrument made fully of plastic versus an instrument made of wood and metal, is ludicrous. Difference in sound may be quite slight (i can hear a difference in the filter, the Moog is smoother as it glides through the harmonic series, the Beh has a more defined harmonic series), but the build quality is absolutely very different.
@@sub-jec-tiv I watched the livestream of the building of there Minimoogs and its basically just assembled by hand the parts come in sent from a manufacturer the same as Behringer or any other synthesizer. The Minimoog is mostly made of wood and the Behringer Poly D is made mostly from metal and some wood side panels. I have the Behringer Monopoly, all the knobs and buttons feel good quality just like any other synthesizer and overall is a well built quality product.
@@sub-jec-tiv 800 or 5000? Ill take the cheap wood
@@sub-jec-tiv Just untrue. What f*cking plastic? Have you really put your hands on a Behringer synth? Clearly you haven't, otherwise you would know the building quality of the Behringer is on a par with the original.
Your comparison videos are really the best in the Internet. Made with much effort, great information to all aspects and very objective. It’s really a great service for the community and the consumer to decide, what to buy. I always enjoy your videos since years.
Thanks it’s really nice to hear that people enjoy them and find them useful
Best comparison I've seen so far. You surely know your synths.. the flow with which you get the sounds to sound similar shows how much you've mastered analog synthesis. Congratulations.
Thanks, you’re very kind :)
Best comparison yet! You're very good at it. Sounds virtually identical. If I had an old Moog already I'd keep it because I like vintage stuff and don't need the money. But for someone starting out, it can't be beat!
15 years ago I got a Behringer multi-bus mixer. It was so much functionality and was so affordable compared to the big names. So, long-time fan. So cool to see them doing such good work emulating vintage equipment, synths and pedals.
Just pulled the trigger on a Model D after realizing how incredible my Deepmind 12D was. This video helped me seal the deal, thank you!
1 1/2 years later and ive got a used korg xd5,a crave, a tb 3,a used kawi k4,a 32 channel mixer some used jbl monitors to add to the rig and bunch of groceries and toilet paper on the money i saved on a mini moog.....
I'm happy
How much toilet paper do you have left? I’ve run out personally
This comparison is excellent, well done mate! Not too much talking, banter wasn't overwhelming and you've sold me on the product for sure. +1 subscriber
Great job and thanks for the effort. Knew they were close (only have a Moog Voyager though), but they're even closer than I realized...seriously excellent comparison.
Wow, I'm dying to create many of those lovely modulating sounds you made toward the end of the video. Just got the Model D a couple of months ago, and it's keeper. I like it more than my Mother 32.
Mind blow!
Everytime you post a video i end up on Thomann.
Apologies to your bank account
apologies to real music stores, as well...
Ironically, they don't have it...
@@mouldeck fuckk them
@@StarskyCarr So I just came from your WASP video and went to your channel (Subbed with all notifications btw), found this, and I'm amazed! In the comments of that Video I was saying that it's ridiculous all of the affordable options, [quickly] Behringer; Model D, WASP, Neutron, CRAVE, MS-1, and then the Roland SE-02, all in the $250 to $350 range, and they're all amazing. But after watchiing this, even considering the Neutron has 32 patch points or whatever, the SE-02 has a sequencer with 162 presets or something, and the more options on others for other semi-modular pros, etc., _BUT_ I'm going to have the get the Model D. I have to. For $298.99 I can't bring myself to get something else. If you have an affiliate link to somewhere, let me know and I'll use it. *GREAT VIDEO!*
That was AMAZING Starsky WOW!!!!!!
Thank you so much for such a great demo!!!!!
I’m ordering the Model D today!
Can’t get over the amazing demo and I even closed my eyes and could not for the life of me differentiate which was which insanely amazing!!!
Great demo. My Behringer Model D comes tomorrow; can't wait!! Just got a DeepMind 12. This low cost synth is very good & well worth a try too. Thanks.
This is an excellent comparison! Thank you for this!
Great comparison and unbelievably similar
Thanks, did not expect that close! Awesome
Incredible work and result. And great to ear the opening/ending music.
I’ve never been a Moog type person, but I ordered a Behri D, and I love it. Having a lot of fun recording with it. Love the instrument (Lo) output so you can plug it straight into guitar pedals and not worry about clipping and impedance mismatch. Sounds amazing through a nice overdrive or distortion.
Its a no brainer unless you own the real thing. I keep seeing people say, “Yeah, but it will probably break in a few years.” So? Then I’ll buy another, and could do so for the next few decades and still having not payed the same as a real Mini.
I get it....the Moog is a luxury instrument. Gorgeous wood, lovely keybed....its nice, if you care about that stuff. I just wanna make music. For gigging? C’mon....somebody steals your Behri D or spills a drink on it? No worries.
@Le Spam they know what a moog synth is, even my Dad knew what one was before I got one. Google Doodle even did the minimoog. When people see my 70's mini, they know what it is, musician or not. No one will know what some crappy plastic box is among all the other crappy plastic boxes are. Sound isn't everything, otherwise people wouldn't be listening to electronic music in the first place.
@@34672rr wow i see that you are leading some kind of moog crusade but with your every comment i read I am losing more and more braincells because I didnt know how narrowminded someone can be... And what??? Why people listen to electronic music from dubstep through techno and dance to ambient? Because somebody has moog???
Bro the Behringer sounds exactly the same, it's a no Brainer, get the Behringer and have access to the exact same sounds as the moog and have more money for other gear
@@TheStellarmanCo. exactly,it’s also a good therapy to move away from VST Nirvana on my computer
@@34672rr
lol, are you a professional comedian? 😄
nice comparison! I could only compare the Behringer with my Sub37 - but it's awesome how close it's to the original
This really is the definitive comparison. Very nicely done 👌🏽
Watched till the very end...wonderful, wonderful, wonderful!!
Thank you for this. I think some people who have the real deal feel like it is taking something away from them if they admit the clone really does the job. Tiny differences with the modulation are ineveitable but if mini sounds are what someone needs nobody could reasonably say that the D is a bad choice.
Starsky Carr - PLEASE post a link to the picture of the patch at 21:00 ~ Absolutely incredible sound you configured. And then at 21:50 as well. Dreamy & Floaty, yet Meaty & Gritty as well. It's candy for my ear-holes!
Yeahhh
Another great video.. well done. Love the genuine chuckle throughout!
Schulze
Excellent comparison video man, Jumping onto Thomann now 😁 cheers dude
You've just blown my mind, and saved me lots of money
@fooloof true
Best comparison video out there! Thank you
High praise indeed. Glad you liked it
Great vid! I own a MiniMoog, a Voyager XL, a Source, and a _slew_ of other-brand analog legends from the 80's. I'm gonna grab 3 Behringer Model D's for under $1000. A no brainer... THANKS!!!
they sound to me completely identical,as expected,since both follow the same exactly scematics.
nice review.
very very good video - thanks for this - i have the D but was wondering whether im missing out and should buy a real d - your comparison is excellent and has settled my mind to be v happy with what i have - thanks
Brilliant comparison. You definitely know your Minimoog and it shows when you're setting up and matching the sounds on the two units. I can't believe how accurate and good the Behringer sounds for that price! I'm thinking of getting one to learn on before I eventually upgrade to a Subsequent 37 (for the duophonic mode and sequencer) or a used Voyager.
It would be a great learning tool. Better than plugins and apps as you’re forced to program from scratch - no presets!
Its a pleasure to program. I have never been a Moog guy.....always loved old Roland, Oberheim, and DSI. I can’t take my hands off the Behringer. Its a no brainer, and its the best sounding mono I’ve ever owned.
Better than my Mopho, better than my Boomstar SEM, better than my SH-2, better than any discrete mono I’ve used. Love the instrument level output...can plug it straight into cheap guitar pedals and have a blast.
I had the Subsequent 37 and sold it after buying 2 Boogs. much cheaper and better sounding IMHO.
IHaveSynthed never liked the sound of the Sub series.....the Little/Slim always sounded better to me. The Sub37 has some really cool features, but I agree, that the Behri D has better sounding osc’s and VCF.
Better sounding you say?
Damn, I didn't expect such a close call between those two. Imma get a Model D next month maybe :D
Very effective review and comparison, thanks for sharing!
Best synthesizer comparison videos on YT right here! Thank you
Cheers, nice to have you appreciation :)
I echo what SPILT YAK says... definitely the best "comparison" video I have seen to date. I was very interested in this little synth - I guess now I'm a "future owner".
I hate those people who buy generic ibuprofen instead of Nurofen. Nurofen is much better because it's more expensive.
There's nothing like the natural old-school warmth of vintage Advil.
I still have some Bayer aspirin from the early 80's - talk about fat and warm! Nothing like what we get these days.
Slight difference between peoples well being and stealing/copying
No difference. Once the copyright has expired anybody can use the same design.
Wayne: "I can't think about it anymore, its giving me a headache."
Garth: "Here, take these..."
Wayne: "Ah, Nuprin. little, yellow, different..."
I have been enjoying the Model D iPad app - MIDI controller. Then I watched this video and ordered a used Behringer Model D. Someday, I hope to own a Moog. Your video was extremely well done - honest and informative.
Wow! I didn't know that there was one of these made. It just popped up among the namm videos. Amazing!
One of the good demoes that are taken into consideration that nr.7 on the pot actually aren’t on the other synth.
But rather focusing on whether the other synth can sound like the other, actually are the focus.
Amazing! They are sonically identical! Been playing Moogs for years. Their legendary code has been cracked!
It's amazing what you can do when you have endless money and no morals. Not complaining, deffo gonna buy some behringer stuff, cos well, you know, cheap as hell and loads of fun. I think it's incredible that these before unattainable for most instruments are now completely affordable, and in some cases, updated. But I don't think there was a code to crack. It just takes a company like Behringer with endless money and resources to mass produce such a thing for such a low price. I do heavily question their ethics and attitude towards some of the companies they are so obviously ripping on though.
There were already some recreations of the model D (or parts of) in the modular world. Several ladder filters and cp3 mixers. And a compleat set of model D modules (and much more) from AJH Synth.
It's also true about the old Moog modular systems. For instance the system 15 re-made by MOS Lab.
YOU should get the prize. Then again, you made the prize for those who listened to the entire video. Words can not express what fun I just had, thanks to your creativity making a waveform do what you want.
The Mini Moog is a classic, like a Fender Strat, or a Les Paul, or a '57 Chevy. An Icon. I can't believe I actually have one now - without breaking the bank! I've been lusting for one of these since 1975! This video sold me. nice job.
Great effort and thank you for making this. It;s shocking just how close they are. @7:18 The Moog is slightly smoother in the sweep but not by much. From a pure physical performance instrument the Moog has the keyboard I like most because the lowest note starts on F. ....not low C like most keyboards. Just personal preference from a keyboard playing perspective. Weird how the mini was the only keyboard to start with LOW F as far as I know.
hey, the Korg MS-10 etc starts with the low F as well.
I had two Model D's from 1978 - 1988, they both sounded slightly different .. no less different than these two sound slightly different. I sold them for $150.00 each and never regretted it. By the time I sold them they were just collecting dust as my Jupiter 8 and DX7 were serving up the full pallette of sounds I needed for our working cover band and my own personal studio work. There is no way I could ever justify paying 30 times what I sold my original Model D for to buy a re-issue .. but this Behringer D is a no brainer .. I await the fulfilment of my order. Cool video 👍 Thanks
Thanks Chris. I think there's a fair bit of elitism about these things. I like my Minimoog but don't consider it the pinnacle of synth engineering by any means.
Minimoogs are very nice instruments but they are way too expensive.... look at the schematics, they are simple devices, and they're monophonic.
Rene Otten simple & GREAT.
Chris Strobel Cool story man, I like it 🤔
So you’re saying you don’t regret selling those moogs even though you could’ve sold them for upwards of $4,000?
Saw this vid last friday, no brainer. Went to the shop Saturday. Best deal ever.
Amazing stuff.. I knew they were close, but not that they were THAT close :) Love your comparison vids man!
One of the most credible TH-camrs has tested this product and confirms what we have heard before: the sound of this creation is outstanding. I'm one of those happy to have come across a Reissue and it's of the best quality and of "American precision" built to last for more than 50 years. All I can say though is congratulations to Behringer and everyone else who dreamed about this. Personally, I'm waiting for what's coming on the market in this ballpark and the sooner the better ...but for me its all about the bass
Thanks Micke
Great video Starsky. Scary how close the behringer is. Still you can't beat the whole build and look of the original MM model, i guess to some people its not about just the sound . 👍👍👍
You’re quite right. If someone offered me the cost of the Moog back and threw in a Behringer for free , I’d keep the Moog. But have to be impressed with the Behringer.
I suppose it comes back to the old 80:20 rule. But the Behringer goes further ... it’s more than 80% sonically there for less than 10% of the cost.
yeah for the money you can get a handful of Behringer D's
Adamski A. The build is certainly nicer, but an extra $3k nicer? Almost seems silly to bring it up.
Yeah in retrospect, I should have dished out another $2700 for nicer knobs ... F*#$% that! 😂
Brilliant review my friend.......there is no Way now im not getting the Behringer Model D. I can believe how close it sounds. You broke it down very well. I cant see anything better for the money, its insane what u get from the Behringer for the money.....Great job!
with the small keyboard controller in front of it, it looks like a miniature Voyager Electric Blue, love it! Great demonstration of the similarities, you got me into thinking of buying one ASAP! :)
For the price you can’t go wrong. It’s a real fun bit of kit, and sounds wonderful.
owning a Voyager, a Minimax, the Arturia V Moog and the Behringer D, I must say that the closest match to my old original Moog D is by far the Behringer!
hi . what do you do with oscillators tuning issues ?
Ill give you 300 for the voyager, that way you can own two model D's. :)
@@statueoftheabyss6886 haha
I am a "hater of the behringer stuff"... but I have to admit, this sounds awesome.
Sounds a little like you’re opening up at an alcoholics’ anonymous meeting. Thanks for sharing :)
I am a hater of Moog stuff, but I have to admit, this sounds awesome.
@@spurv I love behinger and moog stuff, and have to admit, this sounds ho hum, just like the minimoog. however, I get inspiration from my 70's minimoog that makes me make it sound incredible, unlike this crap which is completely uninspired.
@@34672rr you're really on a crusade reply to everyone that you have a 70s Moog, it's quite entertaining. Can you tell again how you get inspired by it ?
wiremessiah yeah while your 70’s mini is in the shop getting repaired again I’ll still be being inspired by my little Behringer.
Thanks for all fanstastic videos!!!! Nevermind beh o another synthsss , love sound and curiosity!!! Cheers
'I'm not complaining... just noticing...' love it. I'll use that line for the rest of my life. You're only 2 minutes in and this the best tutorial ever...
Dennis White Oi that’s copywrited!!!
Behringer have absolutely knocked it out of the park. A+ reissue.
Nicely done Starsky.
Thanks, appreciated.
Very nice walkthrough! Thank you! :)
Great job have you done Starsky. I had a Model D many, many yeras ago.But sold it in 1989 and now I play the Reissue and love it. For me is also important to have a nice chassis and solid knobs. I'm a haptic person.
BUT really good job from Behringer. In a Mix I couldn't say it's a D or Behringer.
Me too. I love the Moog, it’s such a beautiful instrument - which is important on many levels. But .... if you haven’t got the funds the Behringer sounds really good.
If I had the money I’d buy a moog, especially given its quality and heritage. The thing is that I’ll never have that kind of money for a synth and behringer does a fantastic service to those non rich among us which would still like to get the minimoog sound. I looked at the moog mother 32 (which I can afford), yet the sound signature is a bit different.
Behringer has done a terrific job on this one. It sounds identical to the real thing.
great comparison, thanks for the video!
wow. I didn't expect this. I'm impressed.
The only thing I noticed on my earbuds (not great headphones) is that the Behringer had a slightly harsher high end and the Moog had a nicer and smoother high end. However, you could probably just throw a little high pass filter with a gentle slope on the Behringer and get the same effect. As a previous Model D and 5U Modular owner, I am surprised how close Behringer got. Really cool. But, there will be a bunch of people that will pay for that last 3% for authenticity (like audiophiles, etc.).
*low-pass filter, y’mean? 🤔
aphex twin; stone in focus 21:47 🖤 incredibly informative vid. thank you for taking the time and making all this effort to share eons of knowledge
great isnt it
What a fun comparison. I'd love a Moog but would be happy being able to afford the Behringer.
love your vids! always so helpful!
Cheers, appreciated.
Starsky Carr mailed you :)
Love this tiny little box. If you take the faster LFO and especially the CV capabilities of the Boog into account behringer actually wins
good luck reselling this valueless pile of shit
$3000. vs $300 ? No brainer. Yes Moog is an Iconic brand but i can't justify paying so much money for a monophonic synth.
I could agree with you, but Minimoog is not a monophonic synth, it is the SYNTH
I'm holding out for the Neutron.
If you want that sound you want that sound. It is simple.
$3000 just to noodle around, no thanks.
i'm happy with my Mother 32 and Analog 4
Just got this at good price around $270. Extremely happy for size and sound. Lovely tiny powerhouse. Created a track with protools using this as lead, Alesis Micron as pad and AIR Minigrand as piano. This Model D really cut through.
Great video!!! Thanks Starky, the sound very similar indeed. but there is definetly a little difference at low end
The only question is which one to buy FIRST... This or the Neutron.
Thank you Behringer. I shall be using both.
And cheers for a great demo dude.
Though I am suspicious that behringer could be a gateway synth manufacturer to a full blown Eurorack habit. :-/
eric blair Save a little bit longer, and you can swing both. But I would get this one first, if I absolutely had to have one now...
I swear when i reached the part of your movie where you showed the text "If you are still here you should get a price" at 27:55 ... for a moment i thought i was watching a Monty Python movie and your next line was going to "A Møøse once bit my sister... No realli!"
Really great comparison Starsky, thanks a lot for this. It´s truly astonishing how close the Behringer gets to the OG and it seems that this is the best clone of a vintage analog synth ever, leaving out the fact how cheap it is. Of course, the real Minimoog is a more complete instrument, which definitely contributes to a great performance by a great player. And still there is a couple of percent of that magic in it.. in certain cenarios it just sounds more relaxed and at the same time more focussed, something you hear from a great transformer coupled mixing board f.e. ..i´m happy though that a lot of people can integrate a classic sound into their music now without having to spend 3k for an original or the re-issue.
Great comparison. They are identical!
I'm totally sold. They've done incredibly well. Would be cool if they brought out a full size version with keyboard but this will do just fine. Imagine if they brought out a poly version for under a grand! How does the poly chain work? I wish it could have patch storage but then it probably wouldn't sound the same.
Ha they did it!
great comparison!
Thank you for the video! Very interesting
Absolutely amazing video dude!
That's amazing. Just listening on my (admittedly basic) headphones I can't tell the difference. It does bring up a question of copyright in my mind though. How do copyrights work on synths? With the D this close, would Moog be able to sue Behringer? There are so many emulations and clones in both hardware and software of one synth or another that it seems like copyright works differently for synths than it does for something like a car.
The patent ran out years ago, so the original design is not protected.
Model D is one of the best deals in the music business. Period.
The DeepMind 6 tho
You are doing god's work my friend. This video is incredible. Thank you so much for sharing!!
at 28:00 not just quite relaxing, that's hypnotic! thanks for your video, now I'm buying one...
They both sound fantastic. If you need to have the real Moog Model D and you got the dough, great! For those who don't have it, there's one more option now. Isn't that cool? And I believe it won't affect Moog's sales the slightest...have fun, people!
Berhinger really nailed it. Maybe not as nice as the real thing but, for the money. Now you can gig with your favorite synth without worrying about destroying it.
Distressor I remember the gearslutz discussion back when Uli started posting about it. He was getting so much hate and I just quietly watched for months as people basically took huge dumps on the idea. I’m glad the product came out so well. He really proved the point he was trying to make about the price when he started musing about this.
I hear what your saying. I have a older pro1 that I take pride in having. I was a little bummed out to see them clone it.
@UnderBridge Rock wow here you are again in a different comment. Again, you can't steal patent designs that are expired and in public domain. Tasteless maybe? Well that's your opinion, but once upon a time kings, queens , and nobility thought it was "tasteless" to have a democratic society where lowly little plebs and peasants could vote and have a say in government. "How Dare They!!!"
@@auratone25 Yeah your bummed because your specialness is not so sepecial anymore
@UnderBridge Rock YOUR sound will get watered down? Aww your not special anymore. just stomp your feet and yell "I wanna be special! I wanna be special!"
Mary curtis is only pissed cause chip clones means less cash flow into her bank accounts to keep her luxurious lifestyle her husband provided for her. People don't like losing their privileged positions over other people.
excellent comparison, well done !!!
Amazing video as allways.
Where is the photo of the patch at minute 21??????? What an amazing sound!!!!
With all the things Behringer put on the market with skills like no other can or could before, everyone can put a studio togheter with the same amount of money , just for a only one legendary synth/drum machine budget. Congrats Behringer.
I can buy the Behringer for the cost of the sales tax on a Moog Model D. I'm not in the tax bracket to drop Moog kind of money on a monosynth.
Well then you are wasting money on a depreciating asset, rather than one who's value will only increase. Think long term strategically, and perhaps you will get in a higher tax bracket. Plus, even if the Boog sounds better, it's just not the same as having a real minimoog by a damn sight. Music and art are all about inspiration, and the Boog has exactly Zero of it, other than the fact that it's a copy of the greatest musical synthesizer ever. I have been playing my 70's mini for ten years, basically every day. How many Boog players will boast that in 10 years? probably ZERO
Taxation is theft. Good choice.
@@mikeexits nope. theft is taking something you didn't pay for, like roads, police, firefighting, animal control, military strength, political stability etc etc. "Taxation is theft" is something cheap selfish takers say who take everything they have for granted and just want more
@@34672rr War is murder, taxation is theft, police are gangs, politicians are criminals. Have a nice day :)
@@34672rr OH and BTW, most of our tax dollars (in the US) go to the military industrial complex, who spends more annually than the other top 6 military spenders worldwide combined.
I worked at a well-known music retailer in the early 90s, and Behringer gear was a joke in those days. I think I had a Behringer mixer for a while, and it was junk.
Cut to 2015, and my 90s band did some 20th anniversary gigs. Our sound guy brought a Behringer wireless mixer to the rehearsal space (and later, to the gigs) and he could walk around the rehearsal space and the venues and mix the sound on his iPhone. I was blown away by the specs, build quality, and price of the Behringer wireless mixer. It was around that time that I learned Behringer was cloning old synths. I picked up the modded TB303 knockoff a year or so ago, and I'm about to order the Roland SH101 clone this weekend
When I bought it back in 2018 I was beyond happy, I wanted to learn synths and after the disaster that the MicroKORG was as my first synth I finally learned everything I needed to on the Model D and best part was you're actually having fun making new sounds. I have to say mine has drifted out a bit in the years (the filter kbd tracking is especially bad) but it's my fault for not learning and taking the time to open it up and calibrate the pots. Some things can be fixed by updating the firmware with synthtribe like the pitch wheel not tracking a true full octave at the top and bottom of the scale (you need to refresh the pitch range setting to fix that)
Now Behringer just needs to make an EMS AKS or VCS3!!
They are now apparently (VCS3 clone)
@@robaire.b they have been working on it for years, teasing it online
they have been since i posted this comment, nothing has come of it yet
Some companies had *decades* to re-release synthesizers that people showed interest in to.
People have been literally shouting "I WANT TO PAY YOU A LOT OF MONEY SO I CAN BUY YOUR SYNTHESIZER!".
*crickets*
Then Behringer shows up and goes "Oh so your IP ran out after all these years... Well, then we can have a go, can't we?"..
..and then all Gearheads invested for 15k or more are like "Oh noes! Please don't do that! Mine is 30 years old and cost 3500 euros!"...
..I've tried the Rd6, TD3, Model D.. And they all sound awesome.
As in - the TD3's sound better than my ModeMachines x0xb0xes.
I didn't even want the RD6 but got it 2nd hand as a byproduct - its so much fun live and sounds f'ing amazing - for a thing I don't even want :-)
Very well done, Behringer! The sound is spot on!
absolutely fantastic video, I genuinely found it interesting.
Gary Godfrey Haha you sound surprised :)
No no not at all, although I have fiddled with synths on and off over the years I should know far more than I do. I find the video's where people just do A - B comparisons not so interesting, but your input helped me to understand more than I would have normally, so please take my comment as a compliment.
regards
Gary
There is people saying that it's not a perfect accurate replica..... Well, give me back my teenage and 300 Euros to buy this stuff and I would feel like heaven.....
I noticed that the pulse waveforms sounded a bit overdriven on my Boog vs my Reissue Model D. But it's def close enough to get the job done for sure. It's tough to compare these, but again a great job, really enjoyed this!
I edited out a section as I thought I heard the same and investigated further. Got a bit boring even for me though!!
I wasn’t totally convinced it was so chopped it out.
Starsky Carr yeah I heard it with headphones, not sure through the monitors, it's not a huge difference but made some oscilator stacking sound a bit different when using those waveforms. Still, the Boog is a great value but am obv keeping my Moog 😎😀
obv :)
Thanks for sharing! I’m really thinking about getting one.
Great comparison. Even better sound design tutorial. I like the portability of the Behringer. My Moog weighs almost 75 pounds in the case. The Behringer and a Keystep weigh 5. I can take them places I wouldn't take the Moog. The extra LFO allows for voices I can't make on the Mini. Thanks for some cool modulation ideas.
I wouldn’t take the Minimoog anywhere. Too big, too heavy and definitely too expensive. The Behringer is a perfect gigging tool. Love it - just have to keep an eye on the tuning.