I agree with you Mike. I’d keep the 16. If you had a 13, we’ll yes might be time to upgrade. No payments for a year or two is significant when you’re happy with what you have.
I’m going Soecial for my first bike. I don’t like the gold wheels on the ST and lack of stretched bags. Ill spend the money on upgrading the 114, if i want the power down the line. Great vid. You earned a new subscriber sir.
I am the same. I just bought a brand new 2022 SGS in Gunship Grey with chrome package, it's what I wanted, I love the stretched bags and chrome. I can always add to the engine, but I don't think I need to.... for me. I have Vance and Hines pipes waiting for it when it comes out of storage. I have a long wait, bought it Dec 8th off the showroom floor and right into storage after I had them put on a heel shifter and Kahuna heated grips.
I’ve owned 6 streetglides including a 2020 cvo I just bought a 2022 streetglide st this by far is the best streetglide I’ve ever owned my advise is to test ride any bike you buy then make a decision
Man congrats on no more payments. Kake's bike is paid off and I have about $1600 remaining on mine...Can't wait. I agree...no payments and your bike is custom the way you want it. Not to mention you have an extra $300 to play with.
The only thing better than owning a Harley-Davidson is owning a Harley-Davidson with no payments. The only way I would trade in is if I was wanting a completely different bike but I personally wouldn't "upgrade" to just a newer version of the same bike, especially if I already dumped a bunch of money in the one I have to get it just the way I like it.
I like the ST, I really do. I just wish they included the Öhlins as standard equipment. As far as tuning goes, I went from a Vance and Hines FP3 to a dyno tuned bike, and it’s a world of difference. Will I be upgrading from my 2019? No, it’s not worth it price wise to me to do so at this time. Will I probably upgrade in the next 3 years? Yes.
I just paid off my 20 zuki crotch rocket, but still got the 07 night rod I bought due to the long drawn out Sportster S reveal. Just saw a Sportster S test ride video..... I saw the speedometer numbers go up and thought holy crap that things fast......then I saw he was riding on the wrong side of the road.......I don't know that it would be as fast as my 1130cc rod All Harley baggers I would have to wait until they're 10yrs old.......15yo with Ky new taxable value
I am going to wait to see if they do something special for their 120th anniversary. The bump from 114 to 117 does nothing for me but then again 107 to 114 never impressed me either. If anything it really seems they have hit a plateau with the M8. They best deal to me is a the base Street Glide with Premium Radio and RDRS and then do a stage 2 torque cam Change your front and rear suspension and you will be set.
Hey Mike thanks for that video, I just purchased a used 2016 SGS, last October, did quite a few upgrades this winter, but the one that excites is the Stage One, installed a Pro Commander V turner and its getting Dyno tuned as i write this and if it comes back with the horsepower of 92 like yours, well can't agree more with your assessment. Of course mine's not paid for and if it were, oh baby the blue steel CVO street glide, hmm good thing it's not.
@@RidingintheOzarks I will Mike, should get the bike back next week, or soon after. This guy only tunes bikes, he was the one to recommended the Power Commander V, if i learned anything off Utube it was go with the tuner that the Dynotech is most comfortable with.
@@RidingintheOzarks Hi Mike, picked up bike yesterday from the Tuner, didn't get the 92, but close 88 at 4800rpm good even curve 85 at 4000rpm and stayed closed to peak past 5000, considering it hit the max stock 76hp at 3600 instead of 5000, then that's an healthy increase. But the real story is in the torque, max torque stock is 91 at 3000 stays level to 4000 and starts to drop off. New numbers 114 at 3400 and stays above 110 just past 4000, pulls through every gear. He advanced the spark at idle which smoothed out the roughness at 1500, this was my main concern and reason for completing the stage one, and makes this worth it right there. I am happy with the results and should be good with the stage one for few years. Thanks for your Interest.
I would just keep the 16 and enjoy no payments for awhile lol. As far as looks I still prefer the street glide special. I want to see how they look in person and how they feel setting on one though
I am very impressed with the rear suspension on my 2022 Gunship Grey ST compared to my 21 SGS. The ST seems to soak up road imperfections especially in the rear which makes my old back much happier. The 117 is great and delivers power at higher rpm's which is little different than my SGS's 114. Both bikes are great in different ways, but I find I go straight to my ST when I open the garage.
The 12 vs 13 in shock I am sure makes real world difference! I’m pretty happy with my 103 for power but it’s not stock… I rode a CVO with the 117 and loved it but not enough to upgrade 😎
When you’re starting with two inch and you gain another inch that’s a pretty big deal…. Sorry Mike my brain went so far into the gutter on this one. Nice comparison though honestly! Have a great weekend.
Congratulations on paying that bad ass motorsickle off 👏🙌 ........ I got some ideas for the Candi red sportster but I wanna get the 1200 running properly and reliable before I start going crazygood on the red ... right now I'm gonna keep Candi simple appearance looks because the 1200 is already raked out and is the one I want to change right now ........... keep putting out great videos and sorry about the family member
Your starting point depends totally on what you’re ultimate goal is with the bike doesn’t it? If you’re really into the whole “performance” bagger scene then you really should start with the “performance” option, the ST. If you’re like me and you just want a cool looking Street Glide (that red one is too nice!) and you’re not worried about the biggest engine or farthest lean angle or trying to set land speed records with your touring bike, then the special is truly “special “ But I already got my new bike a few weeks ago so no baggers for me……yet.
Congratulations on the final payment! Unless you are really itching for the motor change and RDRS there is no real reason to change. You could go with a stage two and new legs front and back and still have a better riding bike with no payment. That’s how I see it.
Yeah Mike, the ST is impressive but not enough to have me jumping into an overpriced marketplace at the moment. I’ll keep my 19 Road King Special for the time being
Bro. Keep it. Why get into a payment? I own a 16 Springfield. 53k miles. Every time I go to the dealership I am tempted. Then I think about not having to make payments or spend more money for a few little changes. No thanks
I like the ST, but the 117" doesnt mean that much to me. Now, if they had included a larger version of the Revolution Max in the ST, i would have bought it already even thought i have 3 Harley's now. I dont really need it, 1 of my 3 is a 2021 Street Glide will full stage 1, full Cobra exhaust, not just cans, Screamin' Eagle ventilator air intake, tuner. I would have been all over a water cooled Street Glide ST
Mike, nice for not bragging this ST up as all the other fan bois as a "performance bagger" or mix in KOTB hype.... 👍 Seems all the YT guys drank the HD drink at the track demo (LOL) in AZ. Geez its literally a standard SG, yet these guys going on like its some unbelievable bagger on the track. 👎 A small bump in cubes, throwaway OEM 13" shocks and some goldish cosmetic stuff doesnt suddenly make a special a "performance bagger". At least as far as us west coast guys think. The problem is the HD mark up on these STs on top of that 1600. HD is gonna rake guys on mark up on these STs over MSRP. If youre smart pick up a special and put that savings into an aftermarket build with the good stuff. If youre really smart (Id of if I could start again) spend less, get a Road King and grab a FXRT fairing and build up from there (lighter final build and not a belly button SG or RG). Keep the 16 for sure, build it and be done with a better bike for less $$ vs starting over with a ST and building (Im biased toward TCs). You already have the shortbags. I have a 16 SG Im almost done with. 124 S&S with usual TTS + intake + D&D + big TB + clutch mods, Ohlins 14" rear and GP 25 mm cartridges front, True tracks + poly mounts, big brake rotor kits and 6 piston calipers, current 19 frt wheel and 18 rr wheels (big improvement in handling), and typical bars and seat upgrades. Things an absolute ripper in the twisties and super happy (as a crotchrocket guy on a bagger) I compare it directly to a sport tourer like a FJR vs a HD. Last mod will be a Baker grudge box. Congrats on the payoff! 👍👍
Thanks, I don't think the ST is a bad bike but we need to be real about what it is, I am already seeing dealers throw Ohlins on them to sell upgraded from the dealer floor.
@@RidingintheOzarks 👍 Ouch, I can only imagine what theyre asking for those.... LOL, probably another 2k for 1200 shocks. I do like the cosmetic mods on em though. I really dig the fenders, rear lights setup and tri bar delete. My wife doesnt ride anymore so I also dig the solo seat set up. It is another bike I believe HD has fooled folks to pay more for less. Standard bags, solo seat, no rear pegs, all the other stuff is off the shelf stuff HD isnt paying more for. I dont think the MSRP over a standard is bad, Id pay it for the cosmetic mods over the standard.
I’ve got so much invested in my TC motor, suspension, etc… I can’t see ever getting rid of it. If you’re not looking to do any real motor or suspension work, keep the TC. We’re preparing for Daytona run. Got my bike back together after a little winter maintenance. I’m still holding out for a fat boy, I’m not willing to get pumped for the surcharge. The MoCo has about got the M8 debugged, but I’m wondering why they did the oil cap change 🤔. They are truly evolutionary in their design. Many things the government has driven HD to do, aimed at screwing its customers.
I had a 2016 RG Special with a Stage one dyno tune and it was nothing like the RG/ST Stock 117 when I rode it. The seat of the pants power is night and day. I suggest you go ride an RG/ST and see and feel the difference becasuse a stage one on a twin cam 103ci does not come close to the stock M8 117ci engine in performance. I was so shocked by the difference in performance I bought the bike!
I rode a 117 CVO last year, my stage 1 is 114 ft tq at the rear wheel, 93 hp. The 117 is only like 95 hp and 115 tq on the Dyno. Not all stage 1 are equal.
@@RidingintheOzarks Your dyno numbers look like a performance cam upgrade, not just a stage 1 Dyno tune. My stage 1 Dyno tune came to 85 horsepower and 100 foot pounds of torque.
@@markurbancowboy Rush Racing Exhaust Full System with NO Cat, V&H Intake and a aggressive Dyno Tune from a guy with 20+ years tuning bikes, no cam upgrade, when he puts cams in 103's he usually breaks 100 HP...
@@RidingintheOzarks I had a SE full exhaust (no cat), SE high flow filter, dual magaphone slipons and Powervision dyno tune and 85rwhp and 100rwtq is what I got on my twin cam 103. A stock 103 dynos about 73hp and 89ft-lbs. But hey, if you got a guy that can pull those numbers you got with a stage-1 that is great for you.
@@markurbancowboy he almost always gets 100 hp pull on Stage 2. Local dealers send staff to him to learn to Dyno tune. His specialty is Dyno Tuning. Techno Research Dyno Tune
i traded in my 18 SGS for a 22 SGS. Didn't see the need for the St since I am going full stage 2 anyway. I ride all year round in Pa and after 4 yrs figured be nice to get something new. Was ot necessary? Probably not; but time will tell and I like having RGRS and the upgraded interface system on the new bike.
I noticed that you have a Klock Werks windscreen on your bike. Did it help allot to reduce the wind buffeting so many people complain about on the Street Glide models? Looks like a 6.5''? Some say its the helmet you wear also?
Good eye, it is a klockwerks 6.5. It is a huge improvement over the stock windshield. The air hits me right about top of the forehead so I have no issue regardless of the helmet I wear.
Instead of upgrading to the Milwaukee 8. I figure I can find a used low miles 103 Dyna or Softail and put a cam in it. It’d be a lot more cost effective.
I have a 2020 FLH X standard, what rear shock do you think comes on that bike from the factory the standard height that you talk about which is on the ST or the low profile which is on the street glide special? By the way thanks for your review 👍🏻
You should definitely have the Low Shock, you could upgrade to standard height for more travel but it is going to raise seat height about .8 inches also. Your welcome.
After 5 years using of my Fat Bob 2019, i have the chance to pick up a stg st 2023 or a stg 2024. The problem is, i want the stg st from 2023 so much because that is an icon and the better looking in my opinion, the new one is to modern, but the weirdest problem is they are for the same price here in Belgium €32.000 Help me out!!! Kind regards
I suggest riding both but I would take the 2024, all led lighting, more power and tq, liquid cooled heads, improved suspension, rdrs and tpms built in to standard price, love the new tray… I have over 1,000 miles demoing the new design and really like it
OMG. I'm kinda of pissed 😡 off right now. I just got my 2021 street glide in August 😭. I just called my local Harley dealer to have them order me the gun metal grey
Let me tell ya! Not 1600 dollars! With all said and done! I ended up paying 36 grand for the st! I had an 21 Roadglide special I traded! They moved some numbers around! But still with surcharges and all the other shit! 36g!
Who tuned his? Was it tuned by an HD dealer? If so that explains it...If I had a 103 stage 3 with 90HP I would not be happy, we expect to get 100HP if I add cams this winter...
@@RidingintheOzarks 92 is kinda high numbers for an otherwise stock 103 isn’t it? They’re 70 hp motors stock so 20+ hp it’s huge gains for a tune and pipes. His might be handheld tuned or Harley tuned. I’ll ask
@@loweredyote8416 My guy gets those number pretty consistently depending on the setup. My 103 is HO (2016 model) and I think they were pushing 74 HP stock, My stage 1 is Highflo Headers (no Cat) 4 in Slip On's, V&H Hi Flo Intake and the Dyno tune. My Exhaust is Rush Racing Products... Baffles for more TQ not noise...
also no rear seat no rear pegs and an ugly rear end borrowed from the ultra. I hate to say it you have the one and only 103 stage 1 putting out those happy dyno numbers
You've obviously been content to ride it long enough to pay it off. Why the f*** wouold you go right back into debt after finally paying off a perfectly good motorcycle regardless of what upgrades they've made?!??! I've been ridin' Harley Davidson motorcycles for 50 years now....you must be outta your damn mind to think I would pay a dime more than $25 k for either of those bikes!! Sorry, they just are not worth that money!! Neither one makes any sense for me....
I agree with you Mike. I’d keep the 16. If you had a 13, we’ll yes might be time to upgrade. No payments for a year or two is significant when you’re happy with what you have.
I’m happy i bought the ST… the power of the 117 is perfect for what I need. The only thing I will be changing the seat and online suspension
Keep the 16 and know that it is more classier and cooler than what’s out there right now because it’s yours 💯
You had me at No More Payments! Congratulations! It’s always different when one is making motorcycle decisions from that vantage point.
Yeah now got more money for upgrades
Enjoy life to the fullest , thanks why I bought a CVO Street Glide and had a 131 stage1V installed
I can appreciate someone with logic 👍
Thanks
I’m going Soecial for my first bike. I don’t like the gold wheels on the ST and lack of stretched bags. Ill spend the money on upgrading the 114, if i want the power down the line. Great vid. You earned a new subscriber sir.
Thanks for watching.... look for new video today that I think you may find interesting...
I am the same. I just bought a brand new 2022 SGS in Gunship Grey with chrome package, it's what I wanted, I love the stretched bags and chrome. I can always add to the engine, but I don't think I need to.... for me. I have Vance and Hines pipes waiting for it when it comes out of storage. I have a long wait, bought it Dec 8th off the showroom floor and right into storage after I had them put on a heel shifter and Kahuna heated grips.
I forgot to mention the ST has Bronze Accents, Solo Seat, chopped fender and no Antennae...Which would you pick the Special or ST?
The one that's almost payed off
If the St comes with audio I’d pick the St. I love the bronze wheels and accents.
You just helped me make a decision, thank you. I'm keeping my '16 SGS.
That was my choice too
I’ve owned 6 streetglides including a 2020 cvo I just bought a 2022 streetglide st this by far is the best streetglide I’ve ever owned my advise is to test ride any bike you buy then make a decision
Good value analysis Mike. I own a 2020 RKS. I saved a ton of cash versus the SGs and RGs. Great bike. Thanks Mike.
Thank you!
If I was looking for a new ride, I would probably just go with the Street Glide💯
Man congrats on no more payments. Kake's bike is paid off and I have about $1600 remaining on mine...Can't wait.
I agree...no payments and your bike is custom the way you want it. Not to mention you have an extra $300 to play with.
The only thing better than owning a Harley-Davidson is owning a Harley-Davidson with no payments. The only way I would trade in is if I was wanting a completely different bike but I personally wouldn't "upgrade" to just a newer version of the same bike, especially if I already dumped a bunch of money in the one I have to get it just the way I like it.
That’s how much we owe on our 2017 Tri Glide , it’s a great feeling
I like the ST, I really do. I just wish they included the Öhlins as standard equipment. As far as tuning goes, I went from a Vance and Hines FP3 to a dyno tuned bike, and it’s a world of difference. Will I be upgrading from my 2019? No, it’s not worth it price wise to me to do so at this time. Will I probably upgrade in the next 3 years? Yes.
Thanks for making this informative and helpful video
Your welcome Charlie!
I just paid off my 20 zuki crotch rocket, but still got the 07 night rod I bought due to the long drawn out Sportster S reveal.
Just saw a Sportster S test ride video..... I saw the speedometer numbers go up and thought holy crap that things fast......then I saw he was riding on the wrong side of the road.......I don't know that it would be as fast as my 1130cc rod
All Harley baggers I would have to wait until they're 10yrs old.......15yo with Ky new taxable value
I’ve already built my dream bike but what would make me consider switching is a new motor that is water cooled with similar power as the 131.
I am going to wait to see if they do something special for their 120th anniversary. The bump from 114 to 117 does nothing for me but then again 107 to 114 never impressed me either. If anything it really seems they have hit a plateau with the M8. They best deal to me is a the base Street Glide with Premium Radio and RDRS and then do a stage 2 torque cam
Change your front and rear suspension and you will be set.
Bars and Seat? LED lighting? But you have to do that to all of them lol
I would like a nice bright color. That would be more important to me. Yes having a paid for bike is really nice.
Hey Mike thanks for that video, I just purchased a used 2016 SGS, last October, did quite a few upgrades this winter, but the one that excites is the Stage One, installed a Pro Commander V turner and its getting Dyno tuned as i write this and if it comes back with the horsepower of 92 like yours, well can't agree more with your assessment. Of course mine's not paid for and if it were, oh baby the blue steel CVO street glide, hmm good thing it's not.
Let me know what kind of numbers you get!
@@RidingintheOzarks I will Mike, should get the bike back next week, or soon after. This guy only tunes bikes, he was the one to recommended the Power Commander V, if i learned anything off Utube it was go with the tuner that the Dynotech is most comfortable with.
@@RidingintheOzarks Hi Mike, picked up bike yesterday from the Tuner, didn't get the 92, but close 88 at 4800rpm good even curve 85 at 4000rpm and stayed closed to peak past 5000, considering it hit the max stock 76hp at 3600 instead of 5000, then that's an healthy increase. But the real story is in the torque, max torque stock is 91 at 3000 stays level to 4000 and starts to drop off. New numbers 114 at 3400 and stays above 110 just past 4000, pulls through every gear. He advanced the spark at idle which smoothed out the roughness at 1500, this was my main concern and reason for completing the stage one, and makes this worth it right there. I am happy with the results and should be good with the stage one for few years. Thanks for your Interest.
@@daveclarke5766 those number are close to mine and sounds like your happy which is all that matters!
I would just keep the 16 and enjoy no payments for awhile lol. As far as looks I still prefer the street glide special. I want to see how they look in person and how they feel setting on one though
I have seen a few in dealerships in the last few days… I’m not upgrading for a while
I'm was thing about get a 2022 but now I'm will ride my 16 FLHXS for a few more !
I am very impressed with the rear suspension on my 2022 Gunship Grey ST compared to my 21 SGS. The ST seems to soak up road imperfections especially in the rear which makes my old back much happier. The 117 is great and delivers power at higher rpm's which is little different than my SGS's 114. Both bikes are great in different ways, but I find I go straight to my ST when I open the garage.
The 12 vs 13 in shock I am sure makes real world difference! I’m pretty happy with my 103 for power but it’s not stock… I rode a CVO with the 117 and loved it but not enough to upgrade 😎
Great video 🤟thanks, I’m still undecided on which bike to get.
Thanks for watching!
When you’re starting with two inch and you gain another inch that’s a pretty big deal…. Sorry Mike my brain went so far into the gutter on this one. Nice comparison though honestly! Have a great weekend.
Thanks you too
Congratulations on paying that bad ass motorsickle off 👏🙌 ........ I got some ideas for the Candi red sportster but I wanna get the 1200 running properly and reliable before I start going crazygood on the red ... right now I'm gonna keep Candi simple appearance looks because the 1200 is already raked out and is the one I want to change right now ........... keep putting out great videos and sorry about the family member
Your starting point depends totally on what you’re ultimate goal is with the bike doesn’t it? If you’re really into the whole “performance” bagger scene then you really should start with the “performance” option, the ST. If you’re like me and you just want a cool looking Street Glide (that red one is too nice!) and you’re not worried about the biggest engine or farthest lean angle or trying to set land speed records with your touring bike, then the special is truly “special “
But I already got my new bike a few weeks ago so no baggers for me……yet.
Congratulations on the final payment! Unless you are really itching for the motor change and RDRS there is no real reason to change. You could go with a stage two and new legs front and back and still have a better riding bike with no payment. That’s how I see it.
That's the plan!
Woohoo congratulations on getting your bike paid off.🎊🎉👍
Thank you!!
Yeah Mike, the ST is impressive but not enough to have me jumping into an overpriced marketplace at the moment. I’ll keep my 19 Road King Special for the time being
Yeah I’m pretty happy with my SGS Still
Bro. Keep it. Why get into a payment? I own a 16 Springfield. 53k miles. Every time I go to the dealership I am tempted. Then I think about not having to make payments or spend more money for a few little changes. No thanks
You also get a chopped front fender instead of the standard length fender on the SG Special
Yeah that’s true I will add that to my pinned comment
I like the ST, but the 117" doesnt mean that much to me. Now, if they had included a larger version of the Revolution Max in the ST, i would have bought it already even thought i have 3 Harley's now.
I dont really need it, 1 of my 3 is a 2021 Street Glide will full stage 1, full Cobra exhaust, not just cans, Screamin' Eagle ventilator air intake, tuner.
I would have been all over a water cooled Street Glide ST
Just bought a Roadglide st
Congrats I looked at Street glide ST yesterday
Mike, nice for not bragging this ST up as all the other fan bois as a "performance bagger" or mix in KOTB hype.... 👍 Seems all the YT guys drank the HD drink at the track demo (LOL) in AZ. Geez its literally a standard SG, yet these guys going on like its some unbelievable bagger on the track. 👎
A small bump in cubes, throwaway OEM 13" shocks and some goldish cosmetic stuff doesnt suddenly make a special a "performance bagger". At least as far as us west coast guys think. The problem is the HD mark up on these STs on top of that 1600. HD is gonna rake guys on mark up on these STs over MSRP. If youre smart pick up a special and put that savings into an aftermarket build with the good stuff. If youre really smart (Id of if I could start again) spend less, get a Road King and grab a FXRT fairing and build up from there (lighter final build and not a belly button SG or RG).
Keep the 16 for sure, build it and be done with a better bike for less $$ vs starting over with a ST and building (Im biased toward TCs). You already have the shortbags. I have a 16 SG Im almost done with. 124 S&S with usual TTS + intake + D&D + big TB + clutch mods, Ohlins 14" rear and GP 25 mm cartridges front, True tracks + poly mounts, big brake rotor kits and 6 piston calipers, current 19 frt wheel and 18 rr wheels (big improvement in handling), and typical bars and seat upgrades. Things an absolute ripper in the twisties and super happy (as a crotchrocket guy on a bagger) I compare it directly to a sport tourer like a FJR vs a HD. Last mod will be a Baker grudge box.
Congrats on the payoff! 👍👍
Thanks, I don't think the ST is a bad bike but we need to be real about what it is, I am already seeing dealers throw Ohlins on them to sell upgraded from the dealer floor.
@@RidingintheOzarks
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Ouch, I can only imagine what theyre asking for those.... LOL, probably another 2k for 1200 shocks. I do like the cosmetic mods on em though. I really dig the fenders, rear lights setup and tri bar delete. My wife doesnt ride anymore so I also dig the solo seat set up. It is another bike I believe HD has fooled folks to pay more for less. Standard bags, solo seat, no rear pegs, all the other stuff is off the shelf stuff HD isnt paying more for. I dont think the MSRP over a standard is bad, Id pay it for the cosmetic mods over the standard.
I’ve got so much invested in my TC motor, suspension, etc… I can’t see ever getting rid of it. If you’re not looking to do any real motor or suspension work, keep the TC.
We’re preparing for Daytona run. Got my bike back together after a little winter maintenance.
I’m still holding out for a fat boy, I’m not willing to get pumped for the surcharge.
The MoCo has about got the M8 debugged, but I’m wondering why they did the oil cap change 🤔. They are truly evolutionary in their design. Many things the government has driven HD to do, aimed at screwing its customers.
I had a 2016 RG Special with a Stage one dyno tune and it was nothing like the RG/ST Stock 117 when I rode it. The seat of the pants power is night and day. I suggest you go ride an RG/ST and see and feel the difference becasuse a stage one on a twin cam 103ci does not come close to the stock M8 117ci engine in performance. I was so shocked by the difference in performance I bought the bike!
I rode a 117 CVO last year, my stage 1 is 114 ft tq at the rear wheel, 93 hp. The 117 is only like 95 hp and 115 tq on the Dyno. Not all stage 1 are equal.
@@RidingintheOzarks
Your dyno numbers look like a performance cam upgrade, not just a stage 1 Dyno tune. My stage 1 Dyno tune came to 85 horsepower and 100 foot pounds of torque.
@@markurbancowboy Rush Racing Exhaust Full System with NO Cat, V&H Intake and a aggressive Dyno Tune from a guy with 20+ years tuning bikes, no cam upgrade, when he puts cams in 103's he usually breaks 100 HP...
@@RidingintheOzarks I had a SE full exhaust (no cat), SE high flow filter, dual magaphone slipons and Powervision dyno tune and 85rwhp and 100rwtq is what I got on my twin cam 103. A stock 103 dynos about 73hp and 89ft-lbs. But hey, if you got a guy that can pull those numbers you got with a stage-1 that is great for you.
@@markurbancowboy he almost always gets 100 hp pull on Stage 2. Local dealers send staff to him to learn to Dyno tune. His specialty is Dyno Tuning. Techno Research Dyno Tune
i traded in my 18 SGS for a 22 SGS. Didn't see the need for the St since I am going full stage 2 anyway. I ride all year round in Pa and after 4 yrs figured be nice to get something new. Was ot necessary? Probably not; but time will tell and I like having RGRS and the upgraded interface system on the new bike.
Congrats! I do wish I had carplay but I am going to wait at least another year...
@@RidingintheOzarks thx
I noticed that you have a Klock Werks windscreen on your bike. Did it help allot to reduce the wind buffeting so many people complain about on the Street Glide models? Looks like a 6.5''? Some say its the helmet you wear also?
Good eye, it is a klockwerks 6.5. It is a huge improvement over the stock windshield. The air hits me right about top of the forehead so I have no issue regardless of the helmet I wear.
Hi st brakes aren’t better? than special? Or same?
Same
A lot is to be said having your bike paid for!
Special
Instead of upgrading to the Milwaukee 8. I figure I can find a used low miles 103 Dyna or Softail and put a cam in it. It’d be a lot more cost effective.
absolutely, I am glad I got the last twin cam, having an M8 is not a big deal to me.
I have a 2020 FLH X standard, what rear shock do you think comes on that bike from the factory the standard height that you talk about which is on the ST or the low profile which is on the street glide special? By the way thanks for your review 👍🏻
You should definitely have the Low Shock, you could upgrade to standard height for more travel but it is going to raise seat height about .8 inches also. Your welcome.
ThE ST only cones with a solo seat ??
Correct, you can add a 2 up but will need to add rear pegs also.
After 5 years using of my Fat Bob 2019, i have the chance to pick up a stg st 2023 or a stg 2024.
The problem is, i want the stg st from 2023 so much because that is an icon and the better looking in my opinion, the new one is to modern, but the weirdest problem is they are for the same price here in Belgium €32.000
Help me out!!!
Kind regards
I suggest riding both but I would take the 2024, all led lighting, more power and tq, liquid cooled heads, improved suspension, rdrs and tpms built in to standard price, love the new tray… I have over 1,000 miles demoing the new design and really like it
Next year, may be big. 120th year anniversary??
For sure!
Congrats on having her paid for
OMG. I'm kinda of pissed 😡 off right now. I just got my 2021 street glide in August 😭. I just called my local Harley dealer to have them order me the gun metal grey
Congrats I guess?
The ST is seriously overpriced for what you get. Especially considering the dealers are marking up the ST's as much as 10k over msrp.
I don't get why they made the STs. They don't make sense to me.
Congrats on paying off your bike!
Let me tell ya! Not 1600 dollars! With all said and done! I ended up paying 36 grand for the st! I had an 21 Roadglide special I traded! They moved some numbers around! But still with surcharges and all the other shit! 36g!
Wow!
Now that your bike is paid off you can help me on my 21 Street Glide Special payments. Just a thought.
Sorry already committed to helping Firecracker if she needs it. We picked her up a 19 Sportglide Monday!
Weird that your stage 1 103 made 92 whp but my dads stage 3 with worked heads only made 90 whp
Who tuned his? Was it tuned by an HD dealer? If so that explains it...If I had a 103 stage 3 with 90HP I would not be happy, we expect to get 100HP if I add cams this winter...
@@RidingintheOzarks 92 is kinda high numbers for an otherwise stock 103 isn’t it? They’re 70 hp motors stock so 20+ hp it’s huge gains for a tune and pipes. His might be handheld tuned or Harley tuned. I’ll ask
@@RidingintheOzarks you mighta had a happy dyno vs him having a stingy one. They’re weird
@@loweredyote8416 My guy gets those number pretty consistently depending on the setup. My 103 is HO (2016 model) and I think they were pushing 74 HP stock, My stage 1 is Highflo Headers (no Cat) 4 in Slip On's, V&H Hi Flo Intake and the Dyno tune. My Exhaust is Rush Racing Products... Baffles for more TQ not noise...
@@RidingintheOzarks must be a happier dyno then. My dads bikes custom dyno tune and made 93/110 or something. He’s trying to find his dyno sheet
It's not worth at all, great review!
My wife said I need more inches 🤪
We could all stand a few more inches
also no rear seat no rear pegs and an ugly rear end borrowed from the ultra. I hate to say it you have the one and only 103 stage 1 putting out those happy dyno numbers
Yeah I pinned a comment on the seat, missed the foot pegs, my guy does tunes like this all time, he is very good!
You've obviously been content to ride it long enough to pay it off. Why the f*** wouold you go right back into debt after finally paying off a perfectly good motorcycle regardless of what upgrades they've made?!??! I've been ridin' Harley Davidson motorcycles for 50 years now....you must be outta your damn mind to think I would pay a dime more than $25 k for either of those bikes!! Sorry, they just are not worth that money!! Neither one makes any sense for me....