Have Rockstars Stopped Being Cool?
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- why dont you ask bob dylan why he sounds just like dewey cox
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lol nty
you should delete this one too
Why is everyone who talks about alt music on TH-cam an idiot?
It must be hard to see everything through tiktok
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Goat
where can i find the first quarter
I always thought in a weird way Kurt was self aware that he was a walking contradiction. He was aware of how ironic it was that he wanted fame but also hated the idea of fame. This doesn't make him a bad person, just human.
If being human is being a poser I don't wanna be human anymore
@@yungmentalproblems okay. bye.
@@yungmentalproblems Bruh how is he a poser? The man spent 4-5 years playing and touring in the underground scene. Just because he had this fake persona of not caring when he got big doesn't mean he wasn't a real underground performer. They still made amazing music and performed in every small club in the US and europe, they were the real deal, not some corporate posers trying to look like the Seattle underground.
@rookield8077 plus calling someone else's top album choice weak is in itself weak. It's like just his opinion man..
Literally the world we all live in
“Most rock journalism is people who can’t write interviewing people who can’t talk for people who can’t read” - Frank Zappa
Could watch Zappa interviews all day!
Frank who?
@@J450N26Zappa
@@J450N26 Frank Zappa, a great musician.
@@J450N26frank ocean frfr
In defense of Bob Dylan he was around 23 and treated like it was up to him alone to save the planet through songs and mysterious wisdom. Imagine that pressure at that age. Then there’s “everything you say better be the coolest thing ever or you’re a sell out” on top of that.
And then he just said, “Nope, no thanks”, plugged in an electric guitar, and became Judas by obliterating the image of the Golden Child that was put upon him. #LikeABoss 😂😂
ah this explains my goats 🐐 interviews aka ken carson 👑
Bob Dylan is a cool cat despite him being the leader of a generation. I love him.
@@chillmorgs This that murda musik
@@mgradiantwtf
neopunk fm is a bit like if bill and ted grew up in a mid-income suburb in the early 2000s and never smoked weed
supermega for /mu/tants
And never learned how to time travel
And had some bad takes on music.
how do you get so many likes on a gibberish line?
bill & ted never smoked weed either. they were just born stoned.
Honestly, I think the Beatles were the best rock band when it came to interviews. People would ask them the dumbest questions and they’d handle it with wit and sarcasm, and made the interviewers look like fools. John Lennon was especially good at this.
yeah man
“We were just trying to write songs about prostitutes and lesbians, you know.”-paul mccartney
Agree!
Absolutely - Dylan was pretty good at it too.
Agreed. They were probably better at it than Bob Dylan, and they did it as a team. Something a lot of bands don’t have.
Kurt definitely wanted nirvana to be the biggest band in the world, however, having that amount of mass acceptance and having to deal with the pressures that comes with fame was probably not exactly what he dreamed of. It can be very stressful on the human psyche. That may have influenced his attitude in interviews. His energy & demeanor in nirvana interviews from ‘90 to ‘93 is so stark. Lastly, the dude was a heroin addict, of course he sounded careless and dismissive.
In his last interview he said his entire world view flipped after he had Bean
Very typical for decent fathers to wanna drop the bs after having a child
But yeah as an ex dopehead it does imbue you with a spirit of abandon
Exactly two things can be true at once. Wanting fame and hating it makes total sense. You want to share your art, be successful, inspire people. But fame also comes with lack of privacy, a new lifestyle, and probably an impact on someone’s mental health.
I think it’s normal to dream of being a rock star and plan art out and everything even if someone comes off as careless. When you’re famous, I’d assume you are probably concerned with how the public see you and your art.
@@halionextra the Frances kind I guess
Kurt's friends from before fame will tell you he was embarrassed by it & felt stuck.. He WAS Murdered too btw, the evidence is overwhelming..
@@halionextrahis daughter, frances bean cobain
took a shit to this video brother
Did your legs fall asleep?
@@CaptainTard it was a tear jerker i had em up on the bathtub
legend
I hope your poops take less time in the future my man
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If NeopunkFM told us their favorite albums their empire would shatter
Cute is What We Aim For and Mom Jeans.
Lol
i think rock stars are just don’t have social skills 😭
Most rock stars are just straight up introverts. Like Kurt.
let us not forget he was actually just a fucking loser of a person haha@@zackzallie8735
@@zackzallie8735how would most rockstars be introverts.. it’s like the most attention seeking and narcissistic profession on the planet.
edit: idk why i was so pompous in my original comment mb. i meant most rockstars arent introverts, not that none are. conceited or asocial does not mean introverted, and i felt like they were being conflated. ig when i think rockstar, i imagine iggy Pop, and not j mascis.
because its not always about the fame? being a musician means youre passionate about the music you make and you love music, it just happens to be a profession you may or may not become successful in. it's not a guaranteed successful career anyways and most musicians see it as a hobby, not something that that'll actually make them bank. sometimes they just happen to become successful because of genuine talent or pure luck. any person that tries to become a "rockstar" for the fame is immediately snaked out as a poser and an asshole, we know this. i say this as a musicianbtw. and btw, maybe dont use words you dont know the meaning of, or words you saw online once and now milk it.@@Jimmy-cv2js
edit: i also wanna add that you can be an introvert in any profession. your career choice and personality aren't mutually exclusive. shocking i know
@Jimmy-cv2js you can soak up all the attention you want and never talk to a majority of the people who give it to you.
adressing kurts death the way you did won't make u cool either
ok 👍
Kurt's top 50 albums list is actually pretty good
It's the perfect introduction to punk, indie, and DIY music. Life changing to say the least.
@kurdt1012 fr, I don't know what this dude expected Kurt to have on his list, some death grips? Some 100 gecs? Like please for a teenager in the 80s this list is amazingly good and full of gems. This dude in the video is just a casual listener I guess...
@@industrialworld1you had to buy music back then
@@industrialworld1 the two dudes who run this channel are among the cohort of terminally online zoomers who performatively hate The Beatles because they're them. They probably saw that Kurt appreciated the Beatles (as do most actual musicians) and wrote the whole list off.
@@orangeadventure975 fr
"list of his top 50 favorite albums and honestly its super weak" idk if that was ironic but if it wasnt its such a loser take and super cringe
Im with you, that was such a poser take lol
He probably only recognized the Beatles lol.
That list was probably made inn the late 80s or early 90s when the majority of those records were still largely unknown and obscure. You couldn't just google bands or download albus, you had to be lucky to be in the right town or city and know the right people. You couldn't just be a computer nerd and passively become aware of any of those albums. You had to actually be cool...
You just know if this greasy dork was there in the 90s and the same age he would be big into the same Motley Crue and Guns n Roses from the radio like every other average person.
@@sneakyflutesluckily you still can’t just be a computer nerd, you have to be cool. Everyone else stays in their musical comfort zone
I can’t 💀
Imagine worshiping a Junkie poser like cobain lmfao
Dylan 110% purposely calculated his image and backstory. Im suprised you didnt include the interviews where he said he ran away to live with the circus at 13 and the one where he explains he was a prostitute.
The original media troll
the original 15yr old e-girl
And the one that he says he made a deal with the devil
@@martingarricks6209you're cringe
@@johngilliam6764 man utd pfp be quiet
Trent Reznor: 🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿
ppl bringing him up makes me happy ngl. his music changed so many lives and he contributed healthily to a lot to the early online remix scene and the way internet interacted with the industry, while all the "metallicas" were being reactionary d!ckheads. And to the point of the video, always seemed a super sincere and genuine dude in interviews, even in his own personal and very "uncool" failures.
I've seen him mention in interviews about how he feels insecure about his "relevance" so it's good to see people talking about him, because I think he's always been an incredible and inspiring artist. And mental health figure, because if he of all people can make it to the "other side" of a lot of what he seems to have, it gives a lot of us on the former side hope. He even was apparently a confidant for Josh Homme in a lot of dark times around the time of "...Like Clockwork" (which was one of my favorite qotsa albums for its emotional content).
@@JN-so6wt its so cool u said this, one thing i could also point out about trent is that he has stated how important it is to do music genuinely, above everything else, and well im convinced that kind of attitude implies the same when it comes to the way you act in general, or at least when it comes to how he shows himself
he's really a role model in more than one way
@@JN-so6wt
Proud of my comment making you reveal this idea. Nine Inch Nails deserve to receive a spotlight, not by Downward Spiral only but as a image of Trent Reznor, Who And Why Is Trent Reznor.
The musician's musician.
@@JN-so6wtthe availability of music for listeners is the only positive thing to come out of online, and anyone crying about not wanting to pay it is more whining than Metallica did, just cuz Metallica doesn’t need money doesn’t mean other artists wouldn’t. I’m glad you could feel superior in the 90s but in hindsight there’s not that much to be proud of in that regard. Music is in a worse state, just a fact. Creativity itself is in a worse state
Kurt Cobain's 50 records list is life changing.
A ranking with artists such as The Vaselines, Butthole Surfers, Pixies, Wipers, Breeders, Black Flag, The Clash, The Beatles, Beat Happening, Sonic Youth and Daniel Johnston? That list is the perfect introduction to punk, indie, and DIY music.
One of the greatest and most out there album rankings by anyone ever, it shows Kurt Cobain's passion for DIY music and it's outstanding to say the least.
yeah the guy making the video just called it weak because he didn't like the names he recognized
That list thoroughly shaped my music taste forever and was a big reason why I started making music.
Swans too
Can't forget that he included all the Wipers albums, perhaps the biggest influence on Nirvana
I've listened to Butthole Surfers one weekend smoking half oz of bud and i'm never the same again. truly life changing and very inspirational
It sucks that these days smart commentary gotta be all post ironic and memey to be digestible
hard agree.
Well said
we get it boomer doomer u like boring stuff
I don’t know what you said but it’s perfect.
Agreed, it’s so stupid
Bro is literally doing everything he is describing too hate…
He's young. Give him time.
Love the Krist talking about syrup clip. To me Krist Novoselic is the most interesting member of Nirvana, I’ve been a fan since his “people standing on escalators” rant, and the man plays a mean accordion 🪗
He plays accordian
More like he takes selfies with a money phone aquired thru Kurt's song writing royalties. @@bezoticallyyours83
it comes to a point where you realize how critical Krists' whole existence was to the band. Call me crazy, but you take his essence out of Nirvana, you don't have Nirvana...
Yes duh -it was a three piece band. @@kcsnuggles8542
@@kcsnuggles8542IKRRRR
Dude seems to have a grudge against nirvana
a grunge
@@Ac_Adapter Just in general? So if Ted Bundy said he didn't like Nirvana, you'd be like, 'Yeah, this guy seems trustworthy.' That's a weird way to live, my man.
@@Ac_Adapter Wow. Hey, did someone wearing a Nirvana shirt beat you up or something?
@@Ac_Adapter alright bud, cool story
You do realize he made up nothing right....?
that Beck and Thurston interview is hilarious. but also, Thurston is going to the 9th circle of hell for how he treated Nardwuar
blur too.
@@buckminsterowskinah Blur treated Nard just right, there's a less popular first interview he did with em in 1996, just listen to it and trust u won't feel bad for the guy anymore.
@@buckminsterowski the rest of blur were actually fine with him, just the drummer was an utter cnt. It was really bizarre behaviour from him.
Cocaine come down will make you hate Nardwar.
They did dirty with my man Nardwuar 😢
It might be a bit too Gen X for you but the cult Australian band TISM might be worth looking into: they’re infamous for their interview demands. Using megaphones while standing at opposite sides of a cricket ground, wearing full scuba gear in the middle of a crowded restaurant, on air radio interviews via fax etc.
bro shut up
@@NeoPunkFM the fuck did he do man
@@notanalt.5922born before 9/11
@@johnlow810 ??? fill me in please
wdym@@johnlow810
Many of these people were on drugs. Assuming they were all acting in a premeditated way would be pretty stupid. I'm also surprised that to some people the idea of not giving a fuck is so foreign that they assume it to be an act.
'on drugs' is the largest industry on planet earth, you're prolly on some anti depressant.
I noticed being a millennial that among lots of my gen Z friends if I try to cut through the bullshit and only speak about something that matters they often hit back with quips like “oh big brain thinker right here guys”
I’m like nah fr I don’t want to talk about bullshit
Bro the youngest you can be to be a gen x is a little over 30. What are you doing hanging out with 20 years olds 😂 you gotta cut the bullshit. Cobain was a junkie poser. Fact. This will never not be true and gen x never did shit but fking whine and complain. Hence Nirvana. Start chilling with people your own age and try to do something valuable before everybody around you realizes you’re generation was worse than the boomers
it's so inspiring to see new generations discover Kurt Cobain jokes.
Lol that was a perfect transition with the the beat and codine hype😅
The guys from Nirvana had some dark sense of humours, i rattled some nirvana redditors over shotgun shells that’s called kurt, saying he would have loved that, and i meant that he would have loved that joke. You can guess what happened.
the jokes about kurt cobain's death were very disrespectful and insensitive
He didn't have a gun🎵
U sir r a poser.
“A new generation of virgins with something to prove”…. I’m looking at one for sure.
My uncle is a hermit outdoorsman whos lived in the woods for decades writing and recording music that no one has ever heard. It just sits in his cabin, accumulating. That dude is the epitome of not caring.
What I learned from this video:
This guy hates Kurt Cobain
tought the sam
You should though, he's like the opposite of axl rose in an equally bad way
@@isopropyltoxicityBeing the opposite of Axl Rose is pretty good in most ways
😂
@@isopropyltoxicitykey difference being Kurt Cobain made significantly better music.
in response to you saying “in interviewss kurt looked uterly bored like he’d rather be anywhere else” thats how opiate users are and he woulda rather been at home
I mean a lot of interviewers suck at interviews too
This
Frrr
TBF I feel like kurt really wasn't trying to put up an act unlike Thorston because that's mainly how he actually seemed to be as a person
I think the truth is in the middle: some of it seems like it's really him but a lot of it seems overexagerated to create his image
Kurt was full of shit
@Fuego_gringo254 nah , he's a beautiful soul, Sounds like you're the one who full of shit
@@Fuego_gringo254?
@VioIetRamirez the reason he seemed like a walking contradiction is cause he did want fame but also was aware enough to know that wanting fame wasn't cool within the punk rock circle. Thats why his private writings contrast with what he said publicly. He got everything he desired and he knew what he was after from the start. In this sense he was a massive poser and thus full of shit
What i miss in here is what Pearl Jam did in their height of their fame. They have given only a small amount of interviews, Nirvana gave more of them. They did not produce any videos to promote three of their albums, Nirvana did it on In Utero, they fought against Ticketmaster and they never looked after Ten to get their old sound back. Would have been easy for them in the wave of Postgrunge and the success of bands like Staind or Nickelback to go back to their sound on that album, but they stood true to themselves.
To say it in the words of Jacob Bannon of Converge: "What I naively misconstrued as a major label sham was actually a true collection of musical misfits. Pearl Jam found each other organically, just like our band did. They never wanted to play anything but honest, emotional music, just like our band played. And they’re all intensely different individuals, just like our band is. Pearl Jam wasn’t cool or hip, and didn’t claim to be. They were awkward kids, just like us. The closer I looked, the more parallels I saw to my own efforts and motivation. Though we played at different volumes and to different ends, we carried something similar in our blood. What I mistook in them as calculated was actually a very different “c” word entirely: character. They were a form of rebellion back then and I was just too stubborn to realize it. Pearl Jam’s bitterness towards the industry was very real. As promising kids, they innocently teetered on the edge of something spectacular only to be shoved off the edge by big business interests. They plummeted through the air, not ready to be the band that the world demanded them to be. The external pressures that cursed them at the peak of their ’90s powers could’ve crushed coal to diamonds. Miraculously they survived the fall and matured into a personal and political musical powerhouse."
Where have you quoted this from? I'm a Converge fan and I'd like to read more. This sort of echoes some comments from Mark Arm of Mudhoney, which toured with both Nirvana and Pearl Jam. He said that he was apprehensive about touring with Pearl Jam but found that in reality Nirvana was the band with all the scummy or fake music biz people surrounding them.
Bro you are a clown. PJ has vids for Jeremy and Given to Fly among others. Did you even reaserch this L take before you went off like this 🤡
You went from interviews to going on a tangent hating on Cobain for no reason, also you guys literally do what all of these artists do and act nonchalant and chill to the public to seem cool
Tbf, I think a little bit of that is needed to balance out all the worship he gets. Didn't have to trash his top 50 though!
Yeah cobain was a literal heroin addict so im sure a lot of the time in interviews he was legitimately irritatable with interviewers. I feel like there were times he probably appreciated being in a famous band and getting tv and radio placements instead of some of the hair metal bands but there were probably other times where it was too much and he was overwhelmed and despised himself cus he knew he was looked up to while being a depressed addict.
That 5 minute Kurt Cobain rant had about fuck and all to do with the thesis of the video. Almost like the guy who made this literally just wanted to bitch about Kurt.
@@haakmashAgreed. His top 50 is one of the best lists made by anyone. A great introduction to DIY music.
@@kurdt1012 when i was a teenager i checked out Wipers purely on Kurt's word.
so doing the exact same thing is cool when your generation do it but not when the artists of the 90s did it?
yeah 💪
The 90s basically invented mainstream culture/social media. Mostly by accident but still non the less.
Not even a reference to the infamous Mike Patton sandwich interview? C'mon guys
Best interview ever
You shouldn’t have high expectations with this channel. Especially if he’s trying to be “cringe” or ironic with his takes
@@wyattcole5452 They do other things?
@@jyjjy7 I wouldn’t know, I’m saying if that’s the entire point of this video. I’m guessing, but that’s so lazy, uninspiring, and not cringey in the way he’s wanting
Being a fan of NeoPunkFM is like being in la la land cookin on this codeine joy juice
i love how this video takes apart rock stars pretending to be aloof and not care in order to promote their image with the time tested strategy of pretending to be aloof and not care about any of it, really brings the themes around.
wait, i think this is irony. is this irony? this kid doesnt know hes also describing himself.
this is not a rehearsal.
Yeah this dude here needs to look in the mirror. He's a f'n pretentious douche bag
Meta irony apparently its Gen Z way of indulging in irony while denying it
“Yeah I know that Kurt was ironic and aware of it and I’m aware of how I’m also doing that so that makes it better because layers of irony”
@@off6848 i wish it was generational...but its an infectious disease! seen many a good solider go meta. im not sexist but women love this crap lol
It feels ironic to me. All their videos do. I really don't understand why people are taking this video seriously
i Have A Headhache And my tummy Hurts
:/
I hope you feel better
i think there’s a lack of sensitivity in this video surrounding kurt cobain’s death, i don’t think using that to further your point about the whole “pretending to not care” persona or whatever is at all valid. he was a real person and ppl can change their views over time, he may have wanted to be famous when he was like 18 but by the time he was a massive phenomenon it just became too much for him.
yeah. at the end of the day, Nirvana were just three guys. We can't imagine what Cobain experienced or what fame is like. holding that against him seems weird.
He says in his last interview that he has changed his approach to life after having a child
From what I can tell he was genuine but people who want to act like clowns their whole life will say it’s inauthentic or selling out to actually just become wise
Which is wild
🤡🤡
That don’t care attitude wasn’t something that they did, it was almost forced to them, it’s not like they never wanted MTV not to play their videos and not be popular but steer clear of all the bullshit press and media they were receiving, I’ve seen it happen literally 30 years after Kurt’s death, people trying to take things out of context and label him and band and make a big story. Nirvana were always getting interviews before they were popular as well and there is a shit ton of them, most of them had the same repeating questions but the band decided to answer and do it anyways.
Another reason was Kurt was very self aware of the fact that he was influencing other fans and kids who were trying to be like their ‘favourite junkie rockstar’ and he clearly didn’t want that, he mentions this in an interview on 11/8/93, he was aware of the negative attention he and the band received and Kurt literally preached not to believe everything you read. He had to be very careful with what he said and it’s not surprise when you’re a young adult just a couple of years older than the legal drinking age and you have the whole music industry’s expectations and pressures on you after you worked off so hard for that to happen you would definitely need to approach things in a different manner.
If you’ve ever spent time on Interviews with just Kurt alone he provides quite thoughtful and insightful responses, he’d lie around the band though, there was a lot of tension and honestly alot of shit going around at that time period which will need a entire 30 page report on it.
Can’t hate on him since he gave the stage to literally most modern artists that got influenced by him and now influence your favourite artist. I
not reading all that
@@NeoPunkFM You think you're very clever and funny
Very well written
for your next video can you please do how Rock artists inspire and influence by Bob Marley.
@@isabelrodriguezsjolund9701 you want him to think that just so you can tell him he isn't lmao
I think it’s funny you talk about how Gen Z is finding a way to be irreverent without putting anyone down, and 1/3rd of your video is absolutely shitting on Kurt Cobain’s life and legacy.
the generation talk is only for the algorithm probably
He didn't say one untruthful statement sorry the truth hurts lmao
@@Fuego_gringo254 Miserable people shit on people who did something great. Don’t care lol
Cringe take bud. Cobain is a junkie poser and this will never not be true.
Beck had the microcassette recorder with him because he'd originally used it for some spoken word tracks on Stereopathetic Soulmanure & would replay those tracks on stage while touring stuff off of that album
I have the CD of stereopathetic. Satan gave me a taco, baby!
Yeah.. this guy is a bit dim disregarding context in a lot of his examples. Or just exploiting people's want to be enraged in the current day with the shit they consume on the internet. Completely disregarding how much of an effect mental health has on your state of being and pushing his own holier than thou sense of self. Complete lack of empathy.
I think Kurt would give the best responses to some stupid questions that the interviewers ask.
I hate it when I care too much on the internet
And he also pre-scripted wisely his own death by suicide, and that was really good marketing move. Nirvana and him became legend out of it.
The list of his best albums is awesome, you don't know shit.
I feel bad for anyone watching this video and thinking they learnt anything other than how stupid the makers of it are.
One of the most out of touch videos I’ve ever tried to watch about what it was actually like. More revisionist history.
J Mascis isn't doing a bit. He's actually that awkward, and God bless him for it.
I think you've got Kurt Cobain all wrong, probably the result of projection tbh. Yes Kurt Cobain cared about his appearance, obviously. The point is he cut his own hair. he had a style that he knew looked good on him. His diy mindset mixed with his astronomical success is what makes him genuinely impressive. And diy is real authenticity, it shows dedication. In fact, his diy mentality perfectly aligns with his disdain for MTV (bc big corporation vibes), and his calling MTV to make sure they were playing his music perfectly aligns with his dedication to his band.
On another note, jokes and irony aside, living with your worldview seems like it would be really really hard.
I know what you'll say: "I ain't reading all that". Then you'll never develop past this weird ass vibe you've cultivated my dog.
This isn't even a hate message I'm like genuinely worried for you
I don't understand what this has to do with anything he said. Point is he would go on and on about not caring about what people think about him and his music whilst he cared more than any rockstar ive ever seen, and constantly complaining about popularity whilst making sure he will be as popular as possible. He was a huge hypocrite but so are most people.
Dude is not saying hurr don't listen to Nirvana durr. He made a video about how artists present themselves to the audience via interviews. Just so happens that Kurt Cobain was very cringy with it. Kinda like a teenage girl we all had in middle or high school who created a whole personality around not caring about anything or anyone, claiming her clothes are all randomly picked in a thrift store because she just ddoooooonttt caaareee at allll whilst in reality she spends every free moment of her life in clothing stores trying to make the most casual "I don't care" fit possible...
As I got older I realised that although it is funny, its usually a sign of high insecurity and unhappiness with yourself, so now it's more sad than anything.
@@aw2584 I mean undoubtedly he was insecure and unhappy, and yeah an absolute hypocrite, which is reflected in his lyrics all the time. That being said he did accomplish very impressive things.
Other than that I just find this creator insufferable as hell
everything about kurt made him more real tbh
ok 👍
Not rlly but ok
L take. Poser take
you are way overthinking this
Thurston moore makes it hard to be a sonic youth fan
how
@playboykazi6165 cos like you he's an ass
Hes an absolute wanker. No idea how Kim Gordon lasted so aong with him, she comes across as the total opposite.
I love their music but real
Lee was even worse in that nardwuar interview.
Kurt really hurt this little boys feelings ://
He's talks like a kid who just found out that Santa isn't real. "Lyke U mean people in entertainment curate their own image and what they say isn't always in accordance with who they really are... Whaaa?" Sounds like he was born yesterday.
@@eripley481 yall sound like the ones w hurt feelings 🥺🥺
kinda wild to disrespect literal kurt cobain but ok
so his persona did work?
Krist Novoselic was always the king of Nirvana interviews. Dude was hilarious
"We were cooking off this codeine joy juice"
“It’s kind of a medium sized world”
The cover to Dinosaur Jr's album
Was painted By Angry Johnny from Angry Johnny and the killbillies. In my opinion he was one of the Grandfathers to folk punk.
cowpunk🐄🤠🐮
@@-jank-willsonyeehaw
What’s your beef with Kurt’s top 50? Should he have liked other albums??
no nettspend
No whole lotta red like does he even listen to music?
Not a single 100 gecs mention
I doubt anyone has heard of one third of that list much less listened to. Having said that, after going through the list I'm reminded how annoying it was that nirvana and other bands from the time and place pushed the whole feminism bit. He's trying very hard to think of all the girl bands he can with this list. Listing 2 breeders albums and Mazzy Starr in there and too many others in a top 50 is as cringe as seeing Steve Miller 30 years later accepting an award and saying there needs to be more women in rock.
@NeoPunkFM just because you haven't heard of most of his top 50 doesn't mean they're weak. It means you have homework to do.
I feel like this kid is trying to tell me what to think. He wasn't even born yet when Rock was Rolling . I saw that Beck and Thurston interview when they first did it. It was funny and down to Earth.
Cobain’s stomach problems were the result of pinched abdominal nerves caused by minor scoliosis, which went undiagnosed for many, many years.
How could someone spend so much time talking about Kurt Cobain and not mention depression?
It's strange, right?
Why the omission?
kids...do not listen to this man.
He does not know rock
I love that the "don't care" attitude of the 90s became so popular that it became the norm basically, which is ironic because it was to go against to norm. Now anyone that look like they actually care will seem as a tryhard, but not caring is also overused and therefore a bit cringy. Like a local band posting something like "yeah btw there's an album in the making" but they were making it for 1 year of hard work.
@@Ac_Adapter Best comment here for what it's worth.
trying hard to seem like you don't care is actually what being a tryhard is, not openly showing how much you care and letting the world know it. that's like the opposite of "tryhard", it's sincere, natural and genuine.
Some people just want to feel excepted & loved. Fame can temporarily curb that craving but comes at the cost of possibly engulfing a person entirely.
“Peace, Love, Empathy” -Kurt Cobain
eternal teenager vibes given off
This is the most disjointed and incoherent video essay i’ve seen on youtube, it was just a guy ranting about how much he hates kurt cobain, and then making fun of him for killing himself
this guy is cringe
They don't care. Interviews always felt like poser or sellout shit that you were forced to do by a label to get push. It felt disingenuous and guys hated it. Almost to a person and through any era this seems to ring true. That's not an act for Mascis, he's socially inept and just hates talking to people like that. I don't know if you weren't alive in the 90's but this seems to be a trend of people who weren't there when they look back at the time, they completely misunderstand. This wasn't an act for most, there was a general listlessness in the 90's due to economic and social reasons, that had people burnt the hell out. This is also the half of the Shoegaze "scene" that people completely forget when they are fumbling over themselves to say it was about staring at shoes "cuz fx". The same listlessness can be found in BritPop like Suede, Oasis and Blur from the same era.
But holy shit, nailing Adam Friedland, Ian Fidance and the nasal twins like that was brilliant.
dog i don’t care
@@NeoPunkFM Don't reply?
actually he was acoustic
@@NeoPunkFM you guys are lame
Spot on. I love this channel as it keeps me keyed-in on the thoughts of young culturally keyed-in whippersnappers, but holy hell…sometimes it’s jaw dropping. I mean…pause on that list of Cobain’s top 50 albums he calls “weak,” for example. Look it over. Let that sink in.
that last line was everything sis
I loved and appreciated people like Kurt Cobain and Michael Stipe who didn’t like that whole “sex drugs n rock n roll” image and lifestyle. It’s destructive and nihilistic and reactionary. The whole idea of the “rock god”, and doing hard drugs and getting into fights and abusing women and treating others like shit is just the worst, and people Stipe and Cobain actively fought against that image and posture, and I will always be grateful for that! ❤
why am i being recommended 'edgy teen shits on people who made interesting creative contributions to culture to feel better about not putting time and energy toward their own creative pursuits' videos?
I'm 30 lol i don't need this mean spirited shit. youtube, get it together!
What the heck was that line on kurt's suicide man. What point are you trying to prove with that disrespect?
All I know about Kurt Cobain Is that he was a tortured artist (though Novoselic and footage says otherwise) who wanted to be big enough to be known, but not mainstream where everyone knows them. I think thats whg he hated the fame, he didn’t, he just didn’t want to be famous In the mainstream. He wanted to do more, but didn’t know how to take that leap.
I feel like he wanted to be in that Dinosaur Jr./Pixies sweet spot: Enough of a following to tour for the rest of his life but small enough that he could reasonably walk down the street without being bothered. Plenty of musicians occupy that space, including artists that Kurt himself idolized, he just happened himself to blow up harder than anyone.
There’s only one cool man who exists without ever genuinely trying to or wanting to and that is Chino Moreno
One small note: the term "teenager" actually came about in the 1920s, though you are correct about it being created as a marketing term. Great video tho
I think your Kurt analysis has some important insights though I don’t agree with all of it. I want to say though that Kurt went out of his way to buy vintage clothing which was already normal fare for the punk rock world both sides of the Atlantic and people who like that stuff knows it takes a bit more effort to get than just going to a department store. So I dunno I don’t think it’s dressing like you don’t care. People in Olympia still dressed like that when I lived there.
you did not know him
@@volatilemolotov667hes not even talking about him in this comment he's talking about clorhing lmao. stop trying to sound like the smartest one in a comment section
Oh thanks for replying I was trying to find this video because I also wanted to add that hippies would buy pioneer style clothing and I think typically tried to buy the old authentic vintage stuff. Point being it’s not a new trend and “countercultures” probably have been doing that for much longer.
Kurt was literally poor 90% of his life, quite literally didn’t have the opportunity to invest in fashion, it was just something that got ingrained in his life out of necessity, also the layers of clothing was due to him hating how skinny he was (and track marks) coupled with the fact that the northwest was cold as fuck, it was normal for him and other guys from that area to do that, he didn’t have to change because he got popular and tried to remain authentic to himself and his roots
Kurt didn't buy "vintage" he bought resale. Which was no more difficult than shopping at department stores. In fact, it might have been even easier. If you lived in a city or a college town, like most of those bands did, then you had a Salvation Army or Value Village-style store to buy clothes from. Because they were usually located in a downtown area, they were easier to reach if you didn't have a car. Kurt's cardigans and flannels were probably around 2 or 3 dollars a piece. I assume he went to department stores for socks, underwear, and his Chucks.
And, probably his jeans, since new jeans weren't expensive back then. Resale jeans were hit or miss depending on your size. But they were normally around 2 or 3 dollars.
I have a lot of thoughts about this essay, but I don't think I care enough to type them out right now.
This went from a cool video to just shitting on Nirvana that shit felt personal 💀
I think so many people misuse social media that it obscures the mystery behind their band. I also think we should go back to artists having a "look". I think it's super cool when the look of a band matches the sound, at least for the promo work and concerts. The whole "I'm just a nerdy kid who wears whatever" is kinda silly bc everyone is doing it now.
I think I’m gonna buy a guitar be my own Rockstar 🎸
Is it just me or is making a tongue in cheek comment about Kurt Cobain's (supposed) suicide in poor taste?
The "coolest thing anyone has ever done" part, I lol'd
I appreciate how bad these interviews are, I think it's funny.
I misread the title thinking its about Rockstar studio and I watched the whole video waiting for video games to enter the discussion.
I grew up in the "Grunge" area of the very early '90s. Is it possible or has it ever occurred to anyone that Kurt wanted more than anything to be a rockstar when he was a young teenager dreaming of it and writing about it in his notebooks. He wanted to be low-level famous, not the most famous musician in the world. But then when It actually happened to him in real life he realized how much it sucked to have all that attention put on him and how much pressure there was being cast as "the voice of a generation" like he was the next John Lennon. I do not believe Kurt was putting on an act or playing a bullshit character as the video suggest. He just got caught up in a situation where he became 100 times more famous than anyone would have ever thought possible.
Lots of interviewers are very entitled tho. The risk of interviewing someone is that you're getting into their personal life and space and if you don't do it propperly the interviewed will possibly start having an attitude or downright get mad. Sometimes the interviewer style is completely incompatible with the artist. A lot of people like nardwar style for being wacky and funny but his in your face style, his casually throwing personal data of the artist might and have infuriated a lot of people and rightly in my opinion. The interviewer is not a police officer questioning a suspect and the artist has the power to say i don't like where you're going, i want you to take a step back and a lot of interviewers get offended by it and try to push it further.
I'm just saying both people are humans and, like any other human interaction, respect must go both ways for it to work.
The Kurt Cobain to Pro Wrestler pipeline would bend back on itself when Raven came around.
thanks for doing this, great value
fantastic vid! well done!!!
Shouts out Kurt, I reckon him & Lucki would be pouring up together if he was around.
I love Dylan's interviews. They're a kinda funny twist on all of the nonsense angles that interviewers try to come at artists with.
Several decades of knowledge pumped into 15 minutes, i watched this and felt like a year had passed.
Golden.
To be cool is to be silent and in life you will almost never regret not saying something.
Great essay, I've always found the relationship between interviews and musicians so fascinating in the way we hear them so often but also never at all. It is in a way building value to each of your words.
Nirvana fans are punching the air rn
Very well written and entraining. Keep up the good work man.
I want to be a rockstar just so I don't have to go through job interviews, they're despicable
Cool video. Never thought of rockstar interviews in this way. Thanks for the content!
Kurt just wanted the cameras to leave him alone so he could goon with Courtney
And heroin
Ever considered that Kurt’s image wasn’t just for his own narcissism, perhaps he wanted to radiate his own authentic values to the world because he believed in them. Everything he represented was in contrast to narcissism. Just because he boldly showed it off doesn’t mean it’s just for attention. I’m not saying for sure because I don’t know, I just think you should consider that possibility in this video because you don’t actually know what was in his or anyone else’s head.
I don't think many zoomers can conceive of behaviour being exhibited for any reason other than attention.
@@UltrafineDeluxe I’m a zoomer