The Only Rifle I Need- Christensen Arms MPR
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- Have you ever heard the saying, "Beware of the man with one rifle, because he knows how to use it?" I talk through my thoughts about purchasing a Christensen Arms MPR rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor as a way to use one rifle to fit most of my needs.
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Review starts at 5:30
This video wasn’t really designed to be a review. I should be posting a full review of the rifle now that I have had a chance to use it, compete with it and hunt with it.
I purchased a Christensen MPR a bit over a year ago in 6.5 PRC with a Vortex Razor HD 4.5-22. My son and I shot sub MOA with it at 300 yards. However, as elk season approached this year we decided to purchase the same rifle in 300 PRC on the off chance we were faced with a shot at 400+ yards were the 6.5 PRC's energy became less than optimal. We transferred the Razor HD to the 300 and put a Razor HD 3-15 on the 6.5. Now I'm comfortable that one of the two will be fine for anything we're hunting out to as far as 700-800 yards. The two rifles haven't been weighed with scopes on so I'm not sure they'd qualify for the hunting rifle class inn competition, but so far we haven't progressed to competitive shooting.
That’s a great pair of rifles, you should be set to hunt just about anything you could want to with those.
@@AdventureColorado Yes, I grew up shooting dad's .222 Remington out to 100 yards for game and 200 for varmints and the 30-06 for larger things farther away, but after 60 years I decided it was time to upgrade. A lot of things have gotten better since the 1950 as far as available rounds and gun making.
love my Christiensen Arms MPR .308. I usually only shoot out to 500 with an Arken EP-5 and its the most accurate rifle ive ever owned.
Great to hear! I'm still happy with mine. I took an Antelope with it just a couple weeks ago.
I have that in 338 Lapua. My favorite rifle in my collection. I started reloading hoping to lower the price when I shoot it. All it did is allow me to shoot more. Lol.
That’s the irony of reloading, you just shoot more…. It’s a good problem to have.
I am looking at the MPR in 338 TODAY!
Hopefully I can make it to my FFL before they close at 1500.
Question:
Does it void the Christensen Arms warranty if you adjust the TriggerTech trigger? 🤷🏼♂️
@@tassolovesar15s
I would have to look at my owner manual, but I remember reading if you want to make trigger adjustments you need to send it to them directly. I personally like the trigger pull.
What scope do you use?
Awesome rifle, great job, it's beautiful!
I'm really enjoying it, thanks for watching!
You mentioned that you tried a couple of different definitions and a couple of different powders. I started shooting at the age of 9 under the direct guidance of the best sharp shooter in the Midwest.
He did still have many friends that were in the military. Military friends of his would stop by with 10 to $20,000 after receiving the sharpshooter title or passing the over watch position tests.
They would request their preferred chasia system,barrel quality and length, trigger, glass, etc
Here is how he would beg any rifle he built into a sub moa.
Upon completion of building, he would take a shopping trip to purchase 5,000 rounds, (the actual projectile), another 5,000 shell casings, 5000 charges, and several pounds of gunpowder varying by brand and consistency. Using the high number of different combinations available to create a round that works perfectly with the built rifle, he wouldn't get to work by opening a new binder containing thousands of blank pages.
He woulld then make five rounds of a variation and literally continue doing this until he looked sleep-deprived and mentally unstable. This is how you could tell he was close to creating the perfect combination for that individual rifle. This was in fact something he included for his service member friends. I learned more from that man then most people have learned in their entire lives. I was capable of hitting a 10 inch steel plate at one mile. I just choose to leave this skill set alone after the last time I GOT MAD!! The guy who struck my car seemed to have more important things on his mind.
So I drove for about 3 or 4 minutes in 2:01 😮😊 this suburban area and fired three holes through his engine block. I then senl my sight on his motorcycle 2:01 .
The title says it all. My only criticism is I don't like the screw system on the cheek riser. It's do-able though. Keep evolving that.
I agree, it could be built better. At least that is something you don’t have to mess with once it is set.
I thought I'd only like this in the Burnt Bronze, but it looks gorgeous in black. I'm getting the 6.5 Cr too.
The carbon fiber adds a nice contrast with either color. If the burnt bronze was in stock when I bought this I would have gone with that.
@@AdventureColorado I order the burnt bronze but the silver to me looked allot better IMO
I've been looking at this rifle for a year. Looking for the .308 version 22inch barrel
I have really enjoyed mine so far. I've shot it at a couple long range matches with great results. I plan to do a more in depth review once I have a chance to do some hunting with it.
Great rifle for the money..I have a 24 inch barrel in 308 Caliber...awesome rifle
I’m enjoying mine so far!
I like it as well, but they now offer it in 6.5 PRC. I think that size is just a little better for a one size does it all rifle.
I agree, I originally wanted a 6.5 PRC, but couldn't find them in stock. Since this video I got a great deal on a 6.5 PRC MPR and now have one of each. The Creedmoor works great for practice, competition and Deer/Pronghorn. I got the 6.5 PRC for a little more energy on Elk and other larger game.
On your Ruger 30-06, I suggest 3 things that got my Ruger American 300 Blackout (surely not a precision cartridge) to shoot 0.8 MOA at 150 yards: (1) Timney Trigger - set to 1.6 lbs or so (2) Bell & Carlson stock with aluminum bedding block and (3) if you really want to go all out like I did, glass bed the rifle in the B&C stock. With 30-06, I'm thinking sub-1/2-MOA after that!
Hmmm, listening later in your video I hear you did some of that. Perhaps a superior B&C stock will make the difference.
The stock is the last thing I haven’t tried. To be honest though, I’m at a point that I don’t know if I want to dump anymore money into it.
Is this rifle would be a good rifle for a Prs shooting events?
The accuracy and design is a great fit for PRS style shooting, the only disadvantage is the lightweight design of the rifle may make spotting impacts more difficult than with a heavy rifle. A lot of PRS shooters are migrating to heavier rifles.
How much does the bare rifle weigh (no scope, no tripod, no suppressor)?
Christensen Arms quotes 7.4 lbs for the 22 in version of the 6.5 Creedmoor.
Great Choice have a Ridgeline great rifles
Good rifle! Same barrel and action, just a different stock essentially.
With how ridiculous the cost of 6.5 is right now I think I'm going to get the 308 version with a 20" barrel instead
The 308 is a classic.
I had the 6.5 with 22" barrel. It was consistently sub .5 moa with factory ammo. Sold it due to how ridiculous the price of 6.5 is and bought the .308 with 20" barrel. Should have it within the next few days!!
@@matt-ts8cx I got the .308 20" barrel about a month ago and it's perfect! Best part is cause of the .308 I can also shoot 7.62X51mm which is cheap to shoot and easy on the wallet
I’m considering this rifle chambered in 300 PRC. I do some elk hunting and the weight and folding stock are attractive. But I do a lot of long range target shooting and I worry that the kick will make it totally unpleasant to shoot. Any thoughts on this? I’ve never shot a long action caliber, so I really don’t know what to expect.
I have only shot this in the 6.5 Creedmoor, so I can't speak specifically to the recoil in magnum calibers. The factory brake is very effective, so that will really help, but it is still going to recoil more than the short action versions. I have seen a number of people complain online about the Christensen Arms magnum rifles not shooting well and I think a number of those complaints are people having issues shooting a lightweight magnum rifle.
If Christensen Arms wanted to send me a 300 Mag, 300 PRC, etc to test out, I would be more than happy to see how it feels.
I recently bought the MPR in a 300 win mag. First day I went and shot 40 plus. Tried different factory rounds between 150 to 200gr. The muzzle break works great and I was still able to shoot more with other guns after being done. Love the gun but groupings aren’t the greatest. 1.5” at 100yards then 2.25” at 200yrds. Going to reload more and see what it likes.
@@bradleygermain7734 Any updates? I've been wondering about buying this but don't have time to develope a load for it.
@@mgsb387 I’m about 300 rounds into it now and have settled on a 200gr setup I put together. I’m running 200.20 Berger hybrid with 69.5gr of RL-23. Shoots great and consistent 1/2” groups at 100. Kicker is it has to be .015 off the lands. After .045, we’re getting a few fliers. I changed and mounted a Griffen armament cantilever but still have my pst gen 2 on there.
I really do enjoy the gun but not 100% happy with it yet. Hope this helps.
@@bradleygermain7734 very much appreciated! Still on the fence. Worried about harmonics with the cf barrel but damn is it a sexy setup.
Just put the .338 Lapua 28 inch MPR on layaway with a Leupold VX-3 6.5-20x40 LR. I am thinking of canceling the Leupold layaway for a new Nightforce ATACR 8-35x50 for extreme range shooting!
That would be a really nice setup! I haven’t dipped my toes in the 338 and ELR world yet, but that would be the way to do it!
@@AdventureColorado I will try and give you my opinion on the .338 version when I get it off layaway. The worst part has to be the fact that the AICS mags cost 120 dollars, and ammo is around 78 dollars for 20. I am going to start reloading A-MAX and Berger OTM's for it. Also I think I will take it out to the Rocky's to long range hunt sometime.
The ammo cost and lack of long ranges in a decent drive is probably the main reason I haven’t tried a 338 Lapua yet. I’m curious how the recoil is with the lightweight MPR. I found the included brake is quite effective on 6.5 Creedmoor, but that’s a fraction of the recoil.
@@AdventureColorado Don't be deterred by the price of ammo honestly, I did the calculations for loads consisting of Norma or Lapua Brass, Retumbo/H1000, and Hornady A-MAX or similar. The initial investment in brass with give or take 5 uses or so, will amount to a median of 2.66 a round. Even less if your brass lasts longer. So yes it will be more expensive than most ammo types, but it in the end is alot cheaper than the factory ammo costs. I feel the whole lack of long ranges here tho.
I am worried about the recoil, especially being how short I am. And since I got the whole carbon fiber build, so my gun should be no more than 10 pounds or so in the end. But I think my Mauser M18 in 300 Winmag will kick harder seeing that Carbon Fiber is a good impact absorber, and it has a brake unlike my Mauser.
The brake will help a lot with the recoil, of course there will be a lot of blast as a result of those redirected gases. There are quite a few guys with the MPR or other @Christensenarms lightweight rifles on the CA Facebook group. I haven’t noticed many complaints about the recoil.
How do you like this compared to the Rpr. Heard you comparing to your ruger in the beginning but you weren't talking about the rpr are you? I can't decide between the 2. Hard to justify spending the extra thousand but i figure ill have it for life
I think it really depends on your use and budget. If you want to go hunting or need to keep the weight down, the MPR definitely feels like a more polished, lightweight, high end gun.
The RPR on the other hand has still been very accurate for me. If you are just shooting at the range or want to compete in PRS style matches where the weight is a benefit I would say that the RPR would be a great fit and you could use some of the money you saved to buy a better scope.
what ring height do you use for your pst Gen 2? is it medium or high?
For the 3-15 power version I used medium.
@@AdventureColorado Thank you!
Remember, different brands have different height measurements even though they using the same height term, medium, high, etc.👍🏻
Mr Yang
I will be using a Leupold MK 4 4.5 x 14 in 50mm on my Christensen MPR. I plan on using Warne Mountain Tech 30mm Rings.
What ring height for the 50mm high or extra high ?
hey do you have the over length when folded thanks
You probably know the answer (being a year later), but it’s 39 1/2” folded.
Should look into the Sig Sauer Cross
I am curious about them. I haven’t found one in person to handle, but I would be interested in trying one out. Those weren’t around when I bought this and I do appreciate the extra few inches of muzzle length on the MPR to get the velocity up a little.
It's too bad they don't come in more chamberings. If you want 6.5 PRC then you'll need to go with the MPR as it isn't available in the Cross. Plus, I kind of think all that carbon fiber on the chassis as well as the barrel might be worth the extra $500.
Well you were right I would never shoot a 6-5 at a big elk I saw a 6-5 at just at 500 yards 2 rounds went directly through without expanding
Which bullet were you using?
Know your ammo. Is 6.5 ideal for elk? No. Can it get the job done if needed? Absolutely can with the right shot and ammo choice. I most certainly would take an elk at 500 yards with 6.5 though. The typical 6.5 hunting round is just not carrying enough energy to drop an elk humanely at that distance. Most off the shelf hunting rounds are barely pushing 1200 ft pounds of energy at 1200 yards which would be the minimum in my opinion to take elk. So if you have to use 6.5cm to take elk. Choose your ammo wisely, take your time for a well placed shot, and keep your kills inside of 300 yards.
That’s funny. I know 2 different people that took elk with a 6.5 grendel at 400 yards. Dead right there 120 hornady gmx for both of them
The grendel shoots a 6.5 at about 300 fps slower than the creedmoor.
I swear, modern ideals about what people think is needed is hilarious.
I would never sell this rifle, equipped with night force scope. I do kind of wish I looked more into a high end scope that gives negative MOA settings to compensate for lighter bullet weights.
You should be able to adjust for different bullets, you may just have to reset your zero stop to allow for the negative travel.
@@AdventureColorado I think the Leupold goes to negative off the stop, where the night force does not. So if I calibrated to 140 grain, the 129 grain will be high on the zero stop. I just got what I could get during the pandemic so I plan on keeping 140 grain constant.
You should still be able to adjust it by setting up your zero stop to allow travel down. When I set up my Vortex scopes I follow the manufacturers instructions to get the zero stop reset and the scope dialed in. Then, before I actually lock the zero stop into place I dial down about .5-1 mil, or 1-2 MOA. Then I lock the zero stop in place and replace the turret cap with the correct mark lined up, i.e. it indicates -2 MOA if that is how much I off set it. Now, my "0" indicator is correct, but I can dial below it. The zero stop won't be lined up with 0, but if you know how much under it will go you can just dial down until is stops and then back up to 0.
Hopefully that makes sense, I don't have a Leupold scope with a zero stop, but I could probably make a video showing a Vortex or Bushnell.
Looks like you had the Bushnell DMR scope on your Christensen first and then you put the Viper. out of Curiosity did you enjoy the DMR? Pros/Cons of the DMR vs. Viper?
The DMR is a good scope and it typically sits on my Ruger Precision Rifle. I only moved it over while waiting for the Vortex. Both scopes are built well, have 10 MILs of adjustment in one turn of the turret, good clicks, etc. I do like the 3.5-21x of the DMR. I think the PST II series has a brighter, slightly sharper image, a more forgiving eye box and a better reticle (Bushnell G3 vs. Vortex EBR-2 or -7). Overall, either optic work work great for long range shooting, but I prefer the Vortex.
Here is the video that I talk about the DMR: th-cam.com/video/2Nw5AjjcIHE/w-d-xo.html
And here is my review on the Vortex: th-cam.com/video/NOLxw2IO_n4/w-d-xo.html
why not 300 PRC?
Way too much cartridge for shooting matches. Most of them have limits on velocity and magnum cartridges.
What are the cons with running a carbon fiber barrel???
Heat from what I can tell. Still trying to figure that out.
what barrel length is your MPR?
His is 22".... I had the exact same one... sold it and bought the 20" in .308
What sort of rings are you using to mount the scope?
I'm using the Vortex Precision Matched rings in medium height.
@@AdventureColorado Thanks! Coincidentally, I ordered the same optic and rifle (338 Lapua), and I wasn't sure which mounting rings to get.
You should really like it! I would love to pick up a 338 Lapua, one of these days...
What scope and scope Rings height did you use on MPR ?
I used Vortex Precision medium height rings. That’s for the PST Gen II 3-15x, if you use a scope with a larger objective lens you might need to go a little taller.
AdventureColorado
My scope Leupold MK 4 4.5x14 x50
What is your Dia?
It's a PST Gen II 3-15x 44mm.
No targets ? What a review ...
Here is the review: th-cam.com/video/e_uGeYPgllA/w-d-xo.html
Ruger is not known for extreme accuracy
No, but a lot of people have been getting good accuracy with the Ruger Precision Rifle.
you'd better to show target paper...
it’s a little late now, and one or two cherry picked groups doesn’t necessarily prove the capability of a rifle. This was a discussion about familiarity with a specific firearm, not building a bench rest gun.
Why do you feel you need a suppressor for a Hunting are you afraid you will scare the Elks with the muzzle blast before it dies ?
No, the suppressor is to reduce the noise, blast and recoil when I shoot.
Did you end up adding a suppressor? How do you like it compared to the baffle brake that came included with the gun? What barrel length in the 6.5 creedmoor are you shooting, 22, 24 or 26?
Why am I hearing people use the recoil of a weapon as an excuse for the strike of their round? It has ZERO to do with accuracy. I am going with human error most if not all of the time and I am not talking specifically about you, that is everyone. Could be a bad day, wife could have packed a cheese sandwich and you wanted cold cut and you been pissed off all day, mood, breathing, heart rate, grip, trigger squeeze,,,I can name so many factors before going to the weapon to look for the issue.
You are right that recoil doesn't really affect the accuracy of the rifle system. The biggest issue with recoil is that most shooters don't spend enough time practicing and building good fundamentals to control the recoil. They end up with poor fundamentals, or start flinching due to the recoil and end up having a hard time shooting heavier calibers accurately.
What makes people think they can stand 10’ away from mike and still be understood?😡
My only rifle is my Ruger No 1.... one shot one kill... thats scary.lol
The Ruger #1 is a nice rifle.
In 300 wby mag.... yes sir it is.
sorry bout your luck