What Stalin did? Helped USSR become one of the most powerful countries? And yes. 227 exists, but it wasn't about killing deserters. Most of deserters that were killed, were the ones that were spreading panic on the battlefield
HeavySandvichGuy1 mate, don't wanna annoy you or something but deserters on battlefield who were trying to retreat to base or their line were shot by their own men, it's really what i was told most of the time, but if im wrong just correct me oof
@@HeavySandvichGuy1 Dude wat? Goebbel? Order 227 exist mate, they shoot the officer who lead the man first, if they didnt make the retreating soldier to stop, they continue to mow down the entire division because Stalin is fed up with unloyal people in his rank(purge intensifies). Anyway, the order was abolished during the war. Because they dont have enough manpower, genius.
So weird fact at 4:43 : The soldier who is surrendering in this scene is not actually German, but rather a "Eastern Volunteer", AKA an "Osttruppen." His patch specifically denotes him as a member of the "Russian Liberation Army", a unit of Russians who turned their backs on the USSR for various reasons but likely stemming from the harsh dictatorship under Stalin and his Communist Regime. Despite this, he speaks German, AND attempts to surrender to *Red Army Personnel* , which is really not smart in his case as all members of the Russian Liberation Army were to be shot on sight even when surrendering as they were "Traitors to the Motherland".
@@Frank85783 when Germany started Operation Barbarossa many of Russian small town and village decided to join the German Army especially Ukrainians who were willingly join the German they even Greeted them when they entered Kyiv
You too ? Well this is the soldiers duty To die for people who don't give a shit about you and commanders which see you as replaceable maggot War is worse than anything else But being left alone Is far more worse than war
Just noticed, if you pause After the final cutscene for scorched fire (Before it goes back the prison) There's an image of Yuri getting shot by the commisar in the cutscene of mission 6
if you'll look carefully you'll notice all of those little tidbits scattered before they happen for example in the first cutscene when its pulsing through all those little clips it actually uses the audio (although slightly distorted and changed) from when the soviet is about to put a bullet in Lev.
14:10 This is one of the scenes which just simultaneuosly makes you dread to know the extent to which Leningrad's struggle went, and at the same time you want to know more of it or watch a movie about it. And the choir & music when Pozharsky and Isakovich first discuss in the hospital conveys the sombre, haunting nature of those hellscapes well. Overall the entire campaign highlights the cruel, often inhumane side of war, even if it overdramaticizes those events. I'm no historian, but I have read about WW2 a lot - especially the Eastern Front and Stalingrad. It truly was a hel,l on earth near the end. And Leningrad....... was even worse. These events are a haunting reminder of just how dark us humans can get.
I´m a Russian myself and I tell you, our people have to stop to view their history trough rose-tinted glasses once and for all! Brave Russian women and men won this war not the dysfunctional and tyrannic regime. While our people were facing the Nazi onslaught they also had to face Stalin and his machinery from behind which was fucked up. I´ve played the game and I was happy to see that the developers casted light onto this aspect. Sadly some scenes are over the top and provided without good context which might left the true accounts here unnoticed as it will make it easier for people to shout "fAkE". However you don´t need to consult history books but just to talk to people who were there. The problem is that there aren´t many left of this generation and they usually don´t talk that much because under Stalins rule you learned pretty fast you wouldn´t survive for long if you had done that. And you know what? Playing this game made me EVEN MORE PROUD being Russian. Because beside all this murder, fear, and misery Stalin caused they managed to hold their ground and defend our country against an brutal invasion. Too sad that even more of those people were rewarded with deportation and death afterwards. Thousands of Russian hero tales, never been heard but not forgotten. But what puts me in shame are the fact, that there are still fellows exists, who think straining the truth and preaching lies like a regime´s tool back then will do us a favor. YOU DO NOT, you just disgrace the legacy of true Russians who suffered and died.
Stalin was a brutal dictator but his way of governing actually saves Russia in WW2 as well. His Iron Will holds the Red Army in place. The legendary t34 also exist thanks to Stalin as well since he was the one who allowed the project while others laugh at it. But in peace time its a different story like you said. Stalin had his ups and downs towards the Russian people.
I can see that now. They even executed the Polish fighters they had come to aid. I don't care if it's not "personal", in fact it's just makes it worse. Callous bastards.
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John Clark The illiterate shit you scribbled faces many antagonisms against recorded history.
John Clark except the only people that were shot on sight were those, who spread panic among army. Among 37KK soldiers, only 150K were executed for deserting. And most of these were after trials. There was never a moment where soldiers gunned down their own retreating men. There was also never a moment where soldiers were shot for saving their own, even if they had to abbandon theie post
I didn't get any notif of reply while I'm constantly spammed about some meaningless likes, just revisited my old posts... Among the inaccuracies enough to mention that execution for retreating was implemented quite briefly, while it's a constant mechanism in the game. Just as well as burning own civilians in their homes or executing soldiers who have rescued their officer is really excess even for Soviet standards (it'd be another thing if they were caughttelling political jokes or something, that happened with overzealous comissars). And these are story-significant things, there are lots of discrepancies about uniforms, military ranks etc. Generally, far as unsympathetic I am to the common Russian image of spotless heroic liberation, focusing the entirety of campaign on the darkest side of Eastern Front is excess and offensive. In Poland we indeed focus on that dark side (of "liberation", what happened on the Soviet territory is viewed with far greater sympathy) because it was forbidden to discuss and we were force-fed the opposite propaganda for decades (as the result of the "freedom" the Soviets brought us), just to even some balance (especially that Russia still tries to force that narrative down our throats). The fact is that Soviets just in 1944 have dealt more losses to Polish resistance than the Germans did in 5 years (due to the fact that with Germans it was " You have to catch me first", while Poles at first approached Soviets as allies, offering cooperation and thus being easily wiped out). Russians still either don't know that or utterly disregard it in their perception of liberation. Still, in a war game the focus should be on the war effort (which was indeed remarkable), not about preaching "how much *our* side is evil". Mixing real Soviet atrocites with "muhahaha I'm evil and shoot puppies for story reasons" makes it far easier for Russians to reject even the real ones as mere slander.
@@SlavicWolfPL I'm pretty sure a ton of the story was with the intent of the last cinematic's quote. Basically saying "we won, but at what cost to those who got us here?", but also putting a ton of the blame on the higher ups of the USSR, who the devs thought escalated casualties way beyond what they should have been. There were a ton of dark parts of that war, but yes, a lot of this game is either Fury esque compilation of single events to make a cohesive story, or extreme liberties with the facts. The end result is something that screams that these events were everywhere and commonly told, not the exception to the rules.
The whole Stalingrad thing, besides that one German soldier it probably would’ve happened, isn’t really true as every Soviet in the city was armed with a weapon no matter what, and the whole order 227 was only meant for commanders who made their men retreat without asking for approval.
In my opinion Colonel Churkin is by far the most hated character in the series, first of all since he's the Colonel he would be responsible for all those deaths in his men and was the one who caused the Lieutenant Lev Abramovich Isakovich to defect, which in turn put him into the penal battalion and in prison. But also the Colonel was the one responsible for the deaths of those Polish Partisans and even Lev's own men, and he just scoffed at the mention of them. And also redeeming himself in the end is just a hair too late because in the end his heinous actions are too much for his final sacrifice so in conclusion the Colonel is the worst.
Though there certainly are things exaggerated in this campaign, no one can deny Stalin's ruthless dictatorship and disregard for his people's lives especially during WW2. There's a reason why the Soviets lost so many soldiers and even more civilians during that time. Truly a horrible time to be alive on this planet.
7.16 min hard moment and feeling for this soldier who stood and watched his officer leave him alone ..... hard to believe that the your death gonna serve the motherland
Aw, indeed! If only they weren't always shot in their backs, had some ammo, and fought for their own lands, homes, and families..! Oh. Right. The game is just a piece of shit from a historic perspective.
Definitely one of the best campaigns out there in the genre. Campaigns like these always get overshadowed by games like battlefield, but they're still hidden gems!
We have proof, and even Russian chronicles, of using Human wave tactics, as well as blocking detachments that fired on Soviet Troops. Now, did it occur in Stalingrad? No, primarily because Stavka by that time had convinced Stalin to leave to war to them. But in the first months of the war, when Stalin was directly commanding the Red army, Barbarrossa was in full swing, and the NKVD was at the height of it's power, these things did occur. Especially in the first Russian counter-offensive against the Germans in 1941 that lead to the encirclement of over 300 thousand Soviet Troops. Blocking detachments where used to attempt to prevent the pocket from shrinking further, and where prevalent in the 29th Motor division. As for human wave tactics, they where used in Stalingrad, maybe not intentionally, but when you have the option of staying on the landing docks/beaches that are being shelled and bombed constantly.That or charging an MG position with the rest of the men in your boat to get out of the landing areas, you're gonna charge the MG, or get crushed by packed bodies or artillery. Without artillery, tank, or air support, you kinda only have the option of human wave esq tactics. We also know the Soviets purposely stopped a major offense during the Warsaw uprising, and refused to sent aid or material.
It isn't a myth. It did happen and russians even use these human wave tactics in Ukraine. The blocking detachments was a real thing, order 227. Wagner in Ukraine also used that blocking detachment tactic. Game depicts violency of USSR well, USSR has the most losses than any of the sides in the war, thanks to the higher up comms, "butchers", that never valued the lifes of the infantry. USSR drowned the enemy in own blood.
@@ivanonlyone7160 Order .227 is real but they don't shoot them, they just simply arrest them and transfer them to the Penal Battalion because they need every soldier The only difference between regular soldiers and penal battalion is penal battalion is treated like expandable used to clear minefields and also blocking detachment soldier are sparsely use
Tbh i don't think this game painted the russians in a bad light, in fact it showed that Russia's defense was only made possible due to sacrifices of their brave men..men who gave their lives in defense of their home despite the odds..it was only the commanders who deemed them as expendable resources..
The Lt was right. The Soviets defeated a tyranny only to bought fourth another. Thousands and millions of soviet soldiers died for their country, for their motherland. But at what cost? Their stories would never be heard, their sacrifices unknown were it not for the officers commanding them. Withbout people and journalists like the Lt, what would we have know about the men that Stalin used, disposed and wanted us to forget?
Here is something that might be a food for thought. What if Isaackovich's superior were actually anti-semitic, albeit subtle? I mean they might have kept him around for PR, making due with still-existing Jewish officers (500,000 of them; a few of whom are commissars), Isaackovich not being too vocal to his religion or not strict about his beliefs, and the fact that he is "one of the good ones" but still has plans to get rid of him. Edit: Or maybe they picked a Slavic-sounding name and doesn't realize the implication of "Lev Issackovich" as a hint of Jewish ethnicity to those knowledgeable about Russian Jews.
One question where did he go? I mean if I remember correctly Siberia was deep in Soviet territory it would of been possibly between 100 to 200 miles from the Soviet border, through the snow in those clothes?
@@wendigo-yt no, i mean theres a story of Poland POW who succeed to break out from Gulag in Siberia and he crossborder from the mongol to china but went to tibet due to Mongolia and china communist, he eventually cross in to india. This is from true story i think. But i dont know.
The part where they kill the soldiers for rescuing the Captain isnt realistic. You would most likely be awarded. Not killed. NKVD Officers are there to insure they stay loyal to the party. Not kill people because they desert their post. And plus its not desertion when they rescure their own captain.
Technically it is desertion, the captain would be assumed dead and they'd be given new orders. Abandoning their posts for rescuing a captain would be off-the-books stuff if it wasn't an order
What I find interesting is that they use Osttruppen, Russian nationalists that hated communism and sided with the Germans. The one Osttrupp in the fountain was speaking German not russian.
A more satisfying ending extension: At Moscow, 2 hours later "Comrade Stalin. A well known traitor, Lev Isakovich, has escaped from the gulag. Should we hunt him down?" Stalin: "No. He will be doing my glorious empire a favor. The millions who defended it from the Facists shall finally be laid to rest."
its not bullshit because how many games out there in the market make the soviets these war heros, this was a nice change in terms of ww2 campaigns and tbh i wouldnt say this story isnt like a real story but there were times in the red army that were like this.
realkaytlinidk showing Soviets as cowards? Soviets killing their own for no reason? Soviets that don't want to protect their country? Soviets betraying Polish? Yup. Pro-nazi bullshit
All true mostly. Only real mistake is showing how order 227 was put into action... it's not anti soviet and never was. ostfront was brutal where the ends allways justified the means, especially if your marshal was Zhukov ;)
@@alexeistrife56 it is not. It shows the true nature of USSR higher ups and commanding, and how regular people, soldiers, suffered from this. People from post ussr countries, who aren't affected by ru's propaganda "THE GREATEST, POWERFUL AND UNDEFEATABLE USSR" bias can confirm that. You clearly didn't get the morale of this story, which is "Despite terrible commanding and brutish attitude towards soldiers, the war still has been won, by real heroes - regular soviet soldiers". This is what message the game sends. It's even more clear in the final dialogues.
war hound I guess you would of preferred an SS soldier breaking into your house and taking you away to get gassed because there’s something slightly wrong with how you look?
war hound That wouldn't change much too be honest? The Allies would of just set Russia free from German control most likely like the did with all the other conquered nations. It would of just lead to more dead Russians, which from what I've got from this video it's not the soldiers that made the USSR evil. I have to admit though it may of prevented the cold war from happening.
@@UnderFried yes but if there leaders were killed survivors would be grateful for the saving of Russia and would 50 50 here but would become a democracy country
war hound I doubt it would of become democratic, just look at Vietnam. With so many communist supporters and only a small democratic political party leading them, there would surely be a civil war. And I don't think the soviets would be grateful for the death of their leaders that protected them while they're being sent on a train to Auschwitz.
Stalin was a massively paranoid psychopath, who was known before the USSR came to power as a criminal muscleman. Lenin tried to give him a harmless desk job as a secretary, but when he died Stalin used it to his full advantage and seized power quickly. He didn't particularly care about how skilled his officers were, he just cared about their loyalty. As a result, those who had even a shred of doubt to their loyalties were purged before and after WWII many times, with the only time that didn't happen being during said war. It ended up biting him in the rear later on, as he had all the doctors who could save his life killed, while he had a brain tumor killing him.
During 1932 there were the first purge order by stalin to clear any officer that still "loyal" To Russian white army but actually it was to send all Russian officer who still loyal to true socialist successor Trotsky which was a inside political struggle at that time. But his paranoia still exist believing that there are people who want to coup him, so after the war stalin order a second purge due to his worry those who are "heroes" That return home after the war will Revolt against him due to his incompentence in deciding order in war room that led the german almost took the entire western russia. His paranoia were still in play and there were third purge but was cancelled due to he himself died.
Under Lenin, the soviets. Under Stalin, I am not so sure. Only thing Stalin had better than the Tsars were an emphasis on industrialization, and better propaganda. Policy wise they were fairly similar.
In addition to the cringe-worthy fake accents, this campaign is filled with misconceptions and fairytale. I guess it's part of Relic's "the Germans were actually honorable, nice guys!" as seen in the Panzer Elite campaign.
The Germans were actually much better than the Soviets, this is consistent with the post war memoirs of De Gaulle, Churchill, and even Stalin himself. The dirty nazi mythology is a construction of American Academia to elevate Americanism above European regimes as the US spread its ideological tendrils across the world. To be against Germany is to be pro Colonialist and pro Imperialist.
@@superjohnsmith7070 crack open a history about ww2 cross reference the Eastern front ww2 military polices of all nations and the moods of all fronts. to make a long story short : the COH2 story depicts the USSR forces as: reluctant, cowardly, counter-productive, needlessly cruel, constantly undersupplyed, and constantly with low moral despite the fact that both every nation has had these moments (emphasize on moments) and the fact (just like other nations) the USSR rarely had these problems nationwide. in contrast both the other allied forces and Nazi Germany have not been shown to have these problems for more than in-game week let alone all at once. and this is the short version
Maybe he hijacked a boat or some shit and made it to Japan? Or maybe he just ran over the border to India, or somehow got a fake Identity and got on a train to the west coast, going over to Hungary through the border. We dunno.
13:03 Ah yes, so accurate. I love how literally this is SOOOOOOOOO accurate. Dude, I cringed at the Hollywood tier propaganda against the USSR and Red Army cuz muh communism
I mean that scene is heavely overdramatic but still, the soviet fought like that, not caring how many lives were paid un order to achieve victory and as IS said at the end, their victory only brought a new kind of tyrany
hmm yes today i will execute an entire company of soldiers in front of the battalion during the mother of all battles because they went and saved their CO who was trapped within their assigned area of operations. Who the fuck comes up with this shit?
Propaganda? I think you underestimate or haven’t read thoroughly into how harsh some commisars turned out to be. A lot of this was necessary anyway or else they’d be purged themselves.
I find it truly sad and tragic so many millions of people had to die for the sake of winning the war. Russia was capable of waging a better conflict and had the right tools. But the body count sadly speaks wrongly of that; that so many people died for the sake of defeating Germany. The message I wish was conveyed the most; was the fact that not everyone in the Wehrmact was evil; and not every Russian wanted to be a communist loyalist. There were tens of thousands of human beings on either side who had no choice but to fight each other and die. And for the allies.... America was no better than Germany; because we swept our crimes under the rug. There was a lot of humanity in the Eastern front; a lot of brothers, sisters and people who fought and died for so little. I hope one day that a conflict like that never happens again; because the Victor will hide the truth again and hide the reality that the good guys can't win a war without doing evil things. In WW2; the only good guys were the ones who refused to lie
@Mr. Cactuar yes I know that there are a lot of inaccuracies and I definitely know there still is a lot of anti-communist propaganda and stuff. That doesn't cover up the atrociously high body count that happened in the war.
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Союз нерушимый республик свободных Сплотила навеки Великая Русь. Да здравствует созданный волей народов Единый, могучий Советский Союз! Припев: Славься, Отечество наше свободное, Дружбы народов надёжный оплот! Знамя советское, знамя народное Пусть от победы к победе ведёт! Сквозь грозы сияло нам солнце свободы, И Ленин великий нам путь озарил. Нас вырастил Сталин - на верность народу На труд и на подвиги нас вдохновил. Припев: Славься, Отечество наше свободное, Счастья народов надёжный оплот! Знамя советское, знамя народное Пусть от победы к победе ведёт! Мы армию нашу растили в сраженьях, Захватчиков подлых с дороги сметём! Мы в битвах решаем судьбу поколений, Мы к славе Отчизну свою поведём! Припев: Славься, Отечество наше свободное, Славы народов надёжный оплот! Знамя советское, знамя народное Пусть от победы к победе ведёт!
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One of the most heartbreaking campaigns of the videogame history
André Garcia one of the most brainwashing anti-soviet campaigns
What Stalin did? Helped USSR become one of the most powerful countries?
And yes. 227 exists, but it wasn't about killing deserters.
Most of deserters that were killed, were the ones that were spreading panic on the battlefield
@Athhar Fauzi right. That what goebels wanted people to believe
HeavySandvichGuy1 mate, don't wanna annoy you or something but deserters on battlefield who were trying to retreat to base or their line were shot by their own men, it's really what i was told most of the time, but if im wrong just correct me oof
@@HeavySandvichGuy1
Dude wat? Goebbel? Order 227 exist mate, they shoot the officer who lead the man first, if they didnt make the retreating soldier to stop, they continue to mow down the entire division because Stalin is fed up with unloyal people in his rank(purge intensifies).
Anyway, the order was abolished during the war. Because they dont have enough manpower, genius.
So weird fact at 4:43 :
The soldier who is surrendering in this scene is not actually German, but rather a "Eastern Volunteer", AKA an "Osttruppen."
His patch specifically denotes him as a member of the "Russian Liberation Army", a unit of Russians who turned their backs on the USSR for various reasons but likely stemming from the harsh dictatorship under Stalin and his Communist Regime.
Despite this, he speaks German, AND attempts to surrender to *Red Army Personnel* , which is really not smart in his case as all members of the Russian Liberation Army were to be shot on sight even when surrendering as they were "Traitors to the Motherland".
@@Frank85783 I'm not sure I follow what you're asking.
@@Frank85783 when Germany started Operation Barbarossa many of Russian small town and village decided to join the German Army especially Ukrainians who were willingly join the German they even Greeted them when they entered Kyiv
Wait it all actually makes sense now
game convention bcs osts are weakest unit in axis
the man standing at 7:16 this moment still haunt me just start from there and imagine behing left to die for no reason better than you were too late
You too ?
Well this is the soldiers duty
To die for people who don't give a shit about you and commanders which see you as replaceable maggot
War is worse than anything else
But being left alone
Is far more worse than war
Pedro Barbosa Duarte Lul, pretty fucking much, but in WW2, you either lucky enough for your own good or as good as dead.
they were not too late, they were chosen to be sacrificed and to slow the germans down while they fall back and blow up the bridge.
Lieutenant, I have no weapon!
So go find one!
Forward! For the motherland!
Can I have some shoes? ... Wait, wrong game.
@@needmorebrain NO shoes for you, ill bomb you back to the stone age...
Then find one!
"I drink to forget but i always remember",Brandon rodgers
Just noticed, if you pause After the final cutscene for scorched fire (Before it goes back the prison) There's an image of Yuri getting shot by the commisar in the cutscene of mission 6
if you'll look carefully you'll notice all of those little tidbits scattered before they happen for example in the first cutscene when its pulsing through all those little clips it actually uses the audio (although slightly distorted and changed) from when the soviet is about to put a bullet in Lev.
0:52 Am I the only one who thought that was Stalin at first?
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I felt more emotion in those scenes then Halo 5.
M3M3L0RD 343i is shet m8.
@@dank_lord Hey, atleast they're improving on Halo Infinite.
@@alicorn3924 infinite is already disappointng as it is.
@@dank_lord Well, opinions are opinions but personally Infinite is paying off Halo 5.
At least 343i learn some of their mistake in Halo Infinite
14:10 This is one of the scenes which just simultaneuosly makes you dread to know the extent to which Leningrad's struggle went, and at the same time you want to know more of it or watch a movie about it. And the choir & music when Pozharsky and Isakovich first discuss in the hospital conveys the sombre, haunting nature of those hellscapes well. Overall the entire campaign highlights the cruel, often inhumane side of war, even if it overdramaticizes those events.
I'm no historian, but I have read about WW2 a lot - especially the Eastern Front and Stalingrad. It truly was a hel,l on earth near the end. And Leningrad....... was even worse. These events are a haunting reminder of just how dark us humans can get.
I´m a Russian myself and I tell you, our people have to stop to view their history trough rose-tinted glasses once and for all!
Brave Russian women and men won this war not the dysfunctional and tyrannic regime. While our people were facing the Nazi onslaught they also had to face Stalin and his machinery from behind which was fucked up.
I´ve played the game and I was happy to see that the developers casted light onto this aspect. Sadly some scenes are over the top and provided without good context which might left the true accounts here unnoticed as it will make it easier for people to shout "fAkE". However you don´t need to consult history books but just to talk to people who were there. The problem is that there aren´t many left of this generation and they usually don´t talk that much because under Stalins rule you learned pretty fast you wouldn´t survive for long if you had done that.
And you know what? Playing this game made me EVEN MORE PROUD being Russian. Because beside all this murder, fear, and misery Stalin caused they managed to hold their ground and defend our country against an brutal invasion. Too sad that even more of those people were rewarded with deportation and death afterwards. Thousands of Russian hero tales, never been heard but not forgotten.
But what puts me in shame are the fact, that there are still fellows exists, who think straining the truth and preaching lies like a regime´s tool back then will do us a favor. YOU DO NOT, you just disgrace the legacy of true Russians who suffered and died.
Stalin was a brutal dictator but his way of governing actually saves Russia in WW2 as well. His Iron Will holds the Red Army in place. The legendary t34 also exist thanks to Stalin as well since he was the one who allowed the project while others laugh at it. But in peace time its a different story like you said. Stalin had his ups and downs towards the Russian people.
I can see that now. They even executed the Polish fighters they had come to aid. I don't care if it's not "personal", in fact it's just makes it worse. Callous bastards.
John Clark The illiterate shit you scribbled faces many antagonisms against recorded history.
John Clark except the only people that were shot on sight were those, who spread panic among army. Among 37KK soldiers, only 150K were executed for deserting. And most of these were after trials. There was never a moment where soldiers gunned down their own retreating men. There was also never a moment where soldiers were shot for saving their own, even if they had to abbandon theie post
William Strother if you believe that, you're brainwashed
13:10 i feel bad for yuri :/
Such a feeling that I watched the warhammer 40000.
Yes, the story with Polish partisans is perfectly how Soviet "liberators" acted. There are many inaccuracies here, but this is not one of these.
Smok care to share what inaccuracies?
Matthew Arenson I love how they never responded back.
I didn't get any notif of reply while I'm constantly spammed about some meaningless likes, just revisited my old posts...
Among the inaccuracies enough to mention that execution for retreating was implemented quite briefly, while it's a constant mechanism in the game. Just as well as burning own civilians in their homes or executing soldiers who have rescued their officer is really excess even for Soviet standards (it'd be another thing if they were caughttelling political jokes or something, that happened with overzealous comissars). And these are story-significant things, there are lots of discrepancies about uniforms, military ranks etc.
Generally, far as unsympathetic I am to the common Russian image of spotless heroic liberation, focusing the entirety of campaign on the darkest side of Eastern Front is excess and offensive.
In Poland we indeed focus on that dark side (of "liberation", what happened on the Soviet territory is viewed with far greater sympathy) because it was forbidden to discuss and we were force-fed the opposite propaganda for decades (as the result of the "freedom" the Soviets brought us), just to even some balance (especially that Russia still tries to force that narrative down our throats). The fact is that Soviets just in 1944 have dealt more losses to Polish resistance than the Germans did in 5 years (due to the fact that with Germans it was " You have to catch me first", while Poles at first approached Soviets as allies, offering cooperation and thus being easily wiped out). Russians still either don't know that or utterly disregard it in their perception of liberation.
Still, in a war game the focus should be on the war effort (which was indeed remarkable), not about preaching "how much *our* side is evil". Mixing real Soviet atrocites with "muhahaha I'm evil and shoot puppies for story reasons" makes it far easier for Russians to reject even the real ones as mere slander.
@@SlavicWolfPL I'm pretty sure a ton of the story was with the intent of the last cinematic's quote. Basically saying "we won, but at what cost to those who got us here?", but also putting a ton of the blame on the higher ups of the USSR, who the devs thought escalated casualties way beyond what they should have been.
There were a ton of dark parts of that war, but yes, a lot of this game is either Fury esque compilation of single events to make a cohesive story, or extreme liberties with the facts. The end result is something that screams that these events were everywhere and commonly told, not the exception to the rules.
when they shoot yuri my soul died
If there’s one thing this campaign did, it triggered Tankies beyond anything else.
What's a tankie?
@@danielryan6604 Someone who has a large obsession and un ironically supports Stalin and Stalinism.
@@rnrailproductions5049 yup, cant wait to show this to a tankie whos in my class
fucking commie bastards
what I love about the opening cinematic is that it actually foreshadows the story's events
With this level of historical accuracy, they could've given the Germans a Mecha
soon they will give
guys i almost cryed at the end...but really it has a sad af ending
for me..... lets say not almost
In war, there is no Good or Bad Ending,just Ending.
@Safi woah hold it man i was just saying not everyone is happy in war unless the ending of it. No need to be Rude.
2:44 this one scene somehow sets up brutally better than actual movies
18:57 My catchphrase in Russian accent "What in the name of God is that?"
The whole Stalingrad thing, besides that one German soldier it probably would’ve happened, isn’t really true as every Soviet in the city was armed with a weapon no matter what, and the whole order 227 was only meant for commanders who made their men retreat without asking for approval.
Shhhhh the Soviets where bad at everything they did they just magically won the war cuz America joined,Hollywood said so.
Soviet campaign's story remains relevant until today's war in ukraine
In my opinion Colonel Churkin is by far the most hated character in the series, first of all since he's the Colonel he would be responsible for all those deaths in his men and was the one who caused the Lieutenant Lev Abramovich Isakovich to defect, which in turn put him into the penal battalion and in prison. But also the Colonel was the one responsible for the deaths of those Polish Partisans and even Lev's own men, and he just scoffed at the mention of them. And also redeeming himself in the end is just a hair too late because in the end his heinous actions are too much for his final sacrifice so in conclusion the Colonel is the worst.
Though there certainly are things exaggerated in this campaign, no one can deny Stalin's ruthless dictatorship and disregard for his people's lives especially during WW2. There's a reason why the Soviets lost so many soldiers and even more civilians during that time. Truly a horrible time to be alive on this planet.
Girls: Men don't know what it's like to be heartbroken
Mens: *6:39*
13:10 literally made me cry
18:57 (insert something shocking)
This campaign felt like a movie
7.16 min hard moment and feeling for this soldier who stood and watched his officer leave him alone ..... hard to believe that the your death gonna serve the motherland
bro i liked yuri, i didn't expect him to die.
😢😢😢 so sad (no joke I started to cry)
I ALLWAYS PLAY THIS GAME AND ITS ALLWAYS SAD
Aw, indeed! If only they weren't always shot in their backs, had some ammo, and fought for their own lands, homes, and families..! Oh. Right. The game is just a piece of shit from a historic perspective.
Iwor735 I didn’t understand any of that.
Definitely one of the best campaigns out there in the genre. Campaigns like these always get overshadowed by games like battlefield, but they're still hidden gems!
"Oorah" Activated
This game draws attention to Soviet crimes but it also uses alot of myths like the human wave tactics and executions through the blocking detachments.
We have proof, and even Russian chronicles, of using Human wave tactics, as well as blocking detachments that fired on Soviet Troops.
Now, did it occur in Stalingrad? No, primarily because Stavka by that time had convinced Stalin to leave to war to them. But in the first months of the war, when Stalin was directly commanding the Red army, Barbarrossa was in full swing, and the NKVD was at the height of it's power, these things did occur. Especially in the first Russian counter-offensive against the Germans in 1941 that lead to the encirclement of over 300 thousand Soviet Troops. Blocking detachments where used to attempt to prevent the pocket from shrinking further, and where prevalent in the 29th Motor division.
As for human wave tactics, they where used in Stalingrad, maybe not intentionally, but when you have the option of staying on the landing docks/beaches that are being shelled and bombed constantly.That or charging an MG position with the rest of the men in your boat to get out of the landing areas, you're gonna charge the MG, or get crushed by packed bodies or artillery. Without artillery, tank, or air support, you kinda only have the option of human wave esq tactics.
We also know the Soviets purposely stopped a major offense during the Warsaw uprising, and refused to sent aid or material.
It isn't a myth. It did happen and russians even use these human wave tactics in Ukraine.
The blocking detachments was a real thing, order 227. Wagner in Ukraine also used that blocking detachment tactic.
Game depicts violency of USSR well, USSR has the most losses than any of the sides in the war, thanks to the higher up comms, "butchers", that never valued the lifes of the infantry. USSR drowned the enemy in own blood.
@@ivanonlyone7160 Order .227 is real but they don't shoot them, they just simply arrest them and transfer them to the Penal Battalion because they need every soldier The only difference between regular soldiers and penal battalion is penal battalion is treated like expandable used to clear minefields and also blocking detachment soldier are sparsely use
Tbh i don't think this game painted the russians in a bad light, in fact it showed that Russia's defense was only made possible due to sacrifices of their brave men..men who gave their lives in defense of their home despite the odds..it was only the commanders who deemed them as expendable resources..
And the allies providing them resources they badly needed
The main protagonist commander looks like Khrushchev character on Enemy at the Gates
I cried playing this game. The Sacrifice and death are beyond Comprehension
I love design of Lublin castle. It is like in real life
Played the entire mission with Ania only for them to kill her. Could have used her guaranteed snipes to my advantage but noooo.
The Lt was right. The Soviets defeated a tyranny only to bought fourth another. Thousands and millions of soviet soldiers died for their country, for their motherland. But at what cost? Their stories would never be heard, their sacrifices unknown were it not for the officers commanding them. Withbout people and journalists like the Lt, what would we have know about the men that Stalin used, disposed and wanted us to forget?
This game is a western propaganda with fake informations
Nice propaganda
@@thanglethanh2112 Let’s ask the former Warsaw Pact nations what they think of their “liberators” then
@@EnigmaEnginseer vatniks like being stupid
@@thanglethanh2112It seems like you're the one who's been brainwashed...
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This game movie was much better than the first one
Try playing Brothers in Arms. Just Saying
Here is something that might be a food for thought.
What if Isaackovich's superior were actually anti-semitic, albeit subtle?
I mean they might have kept him around for PR, making due with still-existing Jewish officers (500,000 of them; a few of whom are commissars), Isaackovich not being too vocal to his religion or not strict about his beliefs, and the fact that he is "one of the good ones" but still has plans to get rid of him.
Edit: Or maybe they picked a Slavic-sounding name and doesn't realize the implication of "Lev Issackovich" as a hint of Jewish ethnicity to those knowledgeable about Russian Jews.
He was a communist jew
*the end*
One question where did he go? I mean if I remember correctly Siberia was deep in Soviet territory it would of been possibly between 100 to 200 miles from the Soviet border, through the snow in those clothes?
He's Russian he would of survived the weather even in those cloths.
@@stevenflynntheghost4845 Hahaha!
Went to Mongolia and tibet and to india
@@whatintheworld6413 There were allies in India?
@@wendigo-yt no, i mean theres a story of Poland POW who succeed to break out from Gulag in Siberia and he crossborder from the mongol to china but went to tibet due to Mongolia and china communist, he eventually cross in to india. This is from true story i think. But i dont know.
The part where they kill the soldiers for rescuing the Captain isnt realistic. You would most likely be awarded. Not killed. NKVD Officers are there to insure they stay loyal to the party. Not kill people because they desert their post. And plus its not desertion when they rescure their own captain.
Technically it is desertion, the captain would be assumed dead and they'd be given new orders. Abandoning their posts for rescuing a captain would be off-the-books stuff if it wasn't an order
The whole cutscene is pure bullshit
Lev Abromovsky, you have been found as guilty for crimes against the state. The punishment is death.
Do you have any final words?
What I find interesting is that they use Osttruppen, Russian nationalists that hated communism and sided with the Germans. The one Osttrupp in the fountain was speaking German not russian.
“Let me introduce you to our Polish Comrades”
*You have angered the Poles*
A more satisfying ending extension:
At Moscow, 2 hours later
"Comrade Stalin. A well known traitor, Lev Isakovich, has escaped from the gulag. Should we hunt him down?"
Stalin: "No. He will be doing my glorious empire a favor. The millions who defended it from the Facists shall finally be laid to rest."
Saling was in Moscow not gulag
And lev isakovich was a prisoner so the guard will do the same to him if he try to escape
Salin dont care lmao
This makes me want to be the germans
.....what
Well, relic tried their best to show as much anti-soviet propaganda as possible, and claimed it to be historically accurate, which is bullshit
its not bullshit because how many games out there in the market make the soviets these war heros, this was a nice change in terms of ww2 campaigns and tbh i wouldnt say this story isnt like a real story but there were times in the red army that were like this.
realkaytlinidk showing Soviets as cowards? Soviets killing their own for no reason? Soviets that don't want to protect their country? Soviets betraying Polish?
Yup. Pro-nazi bullshit
All true mostly. Only real mistake is showing how order 227 was put into action... it's not anti soviet and never was. ostfront was brutal where the ends allways justified the means, especially if your marshal was Zhukov ;)
Got this game from Steam though the dlc haven’t got them yet.
Best storyline ever
Simple CoH2: Touching story, complicated gameplay.
'Touching,' lol. Brain-washing.*
FaiqGamer gameplay is stellar you brainlet
@@rotmgpumcake yea sorry but for me its complicated
@@alexeistrife56Mind explaining?
@@alexeistrife56 it is not. It shows the true nature of USSR higher ups and commanding, and how regular people, soldiers, suffered from this. People from post ussr countries, who aren't affected by ru's propaganda "THE GREATEST, POWERFUL AND UNDEFEATABLE USSR" bias can confirm that.
You clearly didn't get the morale of this story, which is "Despite terrible commanding and brutish attitude towards soldiers, the war still has been won, by real heroes - regular soviet soldiers". This is what message the game sends. It's even more clear in the final dialogues.
Those russian rushing b
That ending though
Depression acquired
Wonder what happened to isakovich after he escaped. probably fled the ussr is my guess.
If you want a good Eastern Front campaign consider picking up Men of War.
Hat43 not as much story but good gameplay wise imo
Sum up the Red Army's story: betray,betray and betray
don't forget the part where they betray
Wait, so in the first level, why are the enemies the Russian POA? I thought the POA never fought in Stalingrad?
Duke Valkyrie because devs are braindead anti-soviet nazis
@@HeavySandvichGuy1 so, not loving communism makes you a Nazi? Your a brainwashed fool.
@@commanderbeepo8066 no, Anti Soviet is being Someone who is Brainwashed by their government (basically lied to) that is anti Russian like Nazi
amazing
When the scene is stitched.. its just a sad movie.. my god sega
18:59 those eyes
The saddest Soviet Campaign ever, EVER:(
The dude who wrote the story of this game might be bullied by a communist kid when he was a kid.
What do you mean?
Hubo un poco de videojuego en las difamaciones ✌
The campaign concept seems similar to Battlefield 3.
I HaVe No WeApOn
Wow that's sad I honestly wouldn't have minded if Russia lost if that's how it was back then
war hound I guess you would of preferred an SS soldier breaking into your house and taking you away to get gassed because there’s something slightly wrong with how you look?
@@UnderFried I meant Russia loses then the allies win so no nazi no communist just free people ya putz
war hound That wouldn't change much too be honest? The Allies would of just set Russia free from German control most likely like the did with all the other conquered nations. It would of just lead to more dead Russians, which from what I've got from this video it's not the soldiers that made the USSR evil. I have to admit though it may of prevented the cold war from happening.
@@UnderFried yes but if there leaders were killed survivors would be grateful for the saving of Russia and would 50 50 here but would become a democracy country
war hound I doubt it would of become democratic, just look at Vietnam. With so many communist supporters and only a small democratic political party leading them, there would surely be a civil war. And I don't think the soviets would be grateful for the death of their leaders that protected them while they're being sent on a train to Auschwitz.
At least they made peace and forgivenes in the end
24:36 why would stalin wanna kill off his officers?
The book was reported from stalin and lieutenant was one of his men.
He suspected some of his officers of being supporters of Trotskyism, therefore he purged off his officers that were suspicious to him
Extreme paranoia, purges were done before WW2 as well
Stalin was a massively paranoid psychopath, who was known before the USSR came to power as a criminal muscleman. Lenin tried to give him a harmless desk job as a secretary, but when he died Stalin used it to his full advantage and seized power quickly. He didn't particularly care about how skilled his officers were, he just cared about their loyalty. As a result, those who had even a shred of doubt to their loyalties were purged before and after WWII many times, with the only time that didn't happen being during said war.
It ended up biting him in the rear later on, as he had all the doctors who could save his life killed, while he had a brain tumor killing him.
During 1932 there were the first purge order by stalin to clear any officer that still "loyal" To Russian white army but actually it was to send all Russian officer who still loyal to true socialist successor Trotsky which was a inside political struggle at that time. But his paranoia still exist believing that there are people who want to coup him, so after the war stalin order a second purge due to his worry those who are "heroes" That return home after the war will Revolt against him due to his incompentence in deciding order in war room that led the german almost took the entire western russia. His paranoia were still in play and there were third purge but was cancelled due to he himself died.
16:11 Red Orchestra 2 Product Placement
Who was better the Soviet Commies or the Romanov Tsars?
Under Lenin, the soviets. Under Stalin, I am not so sure. Only thing Stalin had better than the Tsars were an emphasis on industrialization, and better propaganda. Policy wise they were fairly similar.
abramovich Isakovich go the german base and tryout there and get revenge xD
Company of Heroes 2 Game Movie! Check it out!
I don't have a gun 2:54.
11:04
In addition to the cringe-worthy fake accents, this campaign is filled with misconceptions and fairytale.
I guess it's part of Relic's "the Germans were actually honorable, nice guys!" as seen in the Panzer Elite campaign.
Nick Werner The allies were no better either, they shot and bombed innocent civilians and then tried to pass it off as a mistake/accident.
Lol..Surelly the Panzer Elite were not the SS panzer Division..
We all have to take responsibility of our own mistakes
The Germans were actually much better than the Soviets, this is consistent with the post war memoirs of De Gaulle, Churchill, and even Stalin himself. The dirty nazi mythology is a construction of American Academia to elevate Americanism above European regimes as the US spread its ideological tendrils across the world. To be against Germany is to be pro Colonialist and pro Imperialist.
a shame what happens to history when it's perverted by biases
Ethan Byarugaba what do you mean
@@superjohnsmith7070 crack open a history about ww2
cross reference the Eastern front
ww2 military polices of all nations
and the moods of all fronts.
to make a long story short :
the COH2 story depicts the USSR forces as: reluctant, cowardly, counter-productive, needlessly cruel, constantly undersupplyed, and constantly with low moral despite the fact that both every nation has had these moments (emphasize on moments) and the fact (just like other nations) the USSR rarely had these problems nationwide. in contrast both the other allied forces and Nazi Germany have not been shown to have these problems for more than in-game week let alone all at once.
and this is the short version
so fucking innacurate
dat's what your gf said
+RENOVATIO fook off
What about? The war? Read about World War 2. If you're talking about the people in the game, of course!
John Clement Cequna Of course it is a video game, they aren't not trying to tell a real story.
Aleksa Petrovic What story are they falsifying?
I have hated the Russians for over 70 years but now I can forgive them
Funny enough that you forgive them after propagandistic anti-soviet game
Athhar Fauzi It’s sad how so many people judge an entire nation off a few people’s actions.
CoH 2 isn`t a anti-soviet propaganda.They show us just truth, you can not like it, but is it truth.
@@Chief_critic coh 2 is not really truth there are many historical inaccuracies but it does show some truth like executing polish resistance fighters
@@ozisponas1593 you can't shield yourself from what really happened. The Soviets were butchers
COH: Omaha Beach
COH2: 3:56
what happend to isakovich at the end?
+Kyselka123
From what I could guess, he got pass the Iron Curtain and begun to write his story about the Red Army's soldiers in their battles.
What in Siberia? Being a wanted enemy of the state? It would be incredibly hard for him to get back to Moscow, let alone on the other side.
a volksgrenadier blob came and fucked him up the ass
Maybe he hijacked a boat or some shit and made it to Japan?
Or maybe he just ran over the border to India, or somehow got a fake Identity and got on a train to the west coast, going over to Hungary through the border. We dunno.
He could of made his way to Finland, which is a long long long walk from Norilsk. Perhaps they want the audience to infer he somehow made it there.
i remember how upset the russians were about the thruth that are shown in this game over the red army XD
Link for intro? gg :*
In spanish please
12:57
Company of anti-soviet Propaganda, lmao
propaganda campaign
13:03 Ah yes, so accurate. I love how literally this is SOOOOOOOOO accurate. Dude, I cringed at the Hollywood tier propaganda against the USSR and Red Army cuz muh communism
I mean that scene is heavely overdramatic but still, the soviet fought like that, not caring how many lives were paid un order to achieve victory and as IS said at the end, their victory only brought a new kind of tyrany
hollywood nowadays is very anti right
hmm yes today i will execute an entire company of soldiers in front of the battalion during the mother of all battles because they went and saved their CO who was trapped within their assigned area of operations.
Who the fuck comes up with this shit?
Propaganda? I think you underestimate or haven’t read thoroughly into how harsh some commisars turned out to be. A lot of this was necessary anyway or else they’d be purged themselves.
@@Allegiancy mans didn’t even wanna reply to anyone
I find it truly sad and tragic so many millions of people had to die for the sake of winning the war. Russia was capable of waging a better conflict and had the right tools.
But the body count sadly speaks wrongly of that; that so many people died for the sake of defeating Germany.
The message I wish was conveyed the most; was the fact that not everyone in the Wehrmact was evil; and not every Russian wanted to be a communist loyalist. There were tens of thousands of human beings on either side who had no choice but to fight each other and die.
And for the allies.... America was no better than Germany; because we swept our crimes under the rug.
There was a lot of humanity in the Eastern front; a lot of brothers, sisters and people who fought and died for so little.
I hope one day that a conflict like that never happens again; because the Victor will hide the truth again and hide the reality that the good guys can't win a war without doing evil things. In WW2; the only good guys were the ones who refused to lie
@Mr. Cactuar yes I know that there are a lot of inaccuracies and I definitely know there still is a lot of anti-communist propaganda and stuff.
That doesn't cover up the atrociously high body count that happened in the war.
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MUITO RUIM! EXTREMAMENTE CONFUSO! COLOQUEI EM MEU PC COMECEI A JOGAR FUI ATÉ A SEGUNDA MISSÃO APENAS. NÃO TIVE SACO DE IR ADIANTE! O PRIMEIRO FOI MUITO MELHOR, NÃO DÁ NEM MESMO PARA COMPARAR!
After every action for the mother of Russia
Place of imprisonment
I hate this game😤
Why
Dude, what a great historical accuracy! Goebbels approves👍
This company deserves our respect , because they made A FUCKING AMAZING WW2 GAME BASED ON EVERYTHING WRONG THAT WAS DONE BY ALLIES AND THE GOOD QUALITIES OF THE GREAT WERMATCH !!!!! THEY TOOK A CHALLENGE THAT IN TODAYS TIME WILL MAKE GERMANY WANT YO DESTROY THIS COMPANY!!!! GOD BLESS THIS COMPANY TO DARE TRY TO FOGHT AGAINST CENSORSHIP OF THE WRONGS DONE BY THE RUSKIES AND THE GOOD DONE BY THE WERMATCH ! A GERMAN CAMPAIGN!!!!!! THATS WAT U CALL RESPECT TO THE HISTORY!!!!!!
Союз нерушимый республик свободных
Сплотила навеки Великая Русь.
Да здравствует созданный волей народов
Единый, могучий Советский Союз!
Припев:
Славься, Отечество наше свободное,
Дружбы народов надёжный оплот!
Знамя советское, знамя народное
Пусть от победы к победе ведёт!
Сквозь грозы сияло нам солнце свободы,
И Ленин великий нам путь озарил.
Нас вырастил Сталин - на верность народу
На труд и на подвиги нас вдохновил.
Припев:
Славься, Отечество наше свободное,
Счастья народов надёжный оплот!
Знамя советское, знамя народное
Пусть от победы к победе ведёт!
Мы армию нашу растили в сраженьях,
Захватчиков подлых с дороги сметём!
Мы в битвах решаем судьбу поколений,
Мы к славе Отчизну свою поведём!
Припев:
Славься, Отечество наше свободное,
Славы народов надёжный оплот!
Знамя советское, знамя народное
Пусть от победы к победе ведёт!
TOO BAD! EXTREMELY CONFUSED! I PUT IT ON MY PC I STARTED PLAYING I WAS UNTIL THE SECOND MISSION ONLY. I HAD NO BAG TO GO AHEAD! THE FIRST WAS MUCH BETTER, DON'T EVEN GIVE TO COMPARE!