It’s difficult to follow when the charts have errors, errors like switching score between models. This isn’t the first I’ve noticed this. This a “quality control” issue that has been quite neglected in your channel.
The charts for Black Magic's Da Vinci (RAW) have consistently been labeled "de-nosing" which, while hilarious to imagine, is also wrong. 😏 Perhaps a useful weapon against Pennywise 🎈 though? 🤣
@@robertleidner9703 Justo to give you one example, at 1:40. The labels are all wrong or at least 2 of them are, where it says M2 Max it should be M2 Ultra and then the price for that one is also wrong. The 2 M1 Ultras, one of them should be M1 Max (which one, I don't know). There are other examples.
Max, you really need to add Redshift and OctaneX redering of Moana Island scene. Your Blender test is ok but it isn't really a good stick to measure when doing heavy scenes. You need to pump those scene file size more.
Thanks for this test! Have you tested the M1 Ultra 64Core GPU vs the M2 Ultra 72Core GPU models? Since those are the two higher tier of the Ultra models, I'd be very curious!
I got the m1 max 32 gb ram and that thing flyes true everything I throw at it it’s so fast I forget lag even exists I can have 50 chrome tabs use Ableton live photoshop and DaVinci resolve all at once just insane.
Definitely interested in seeing a comparison between the base spec M2 Ultra and a spec’d out unbinned M2 ultra with maxed ram. Would love to see some workflow stress tests such as simultaneously transcoding raw to ProRes and working on full res 8k with denoising. I’m interested to see where the extra specs come into play for video editors and colourists, and whether the improvements are worth it over the base model. Appreciate the work guys
Maxed out RAM is useful for CFDs, Astronomical Imaging(think radio telescopes), DAWs and 3D Rendering(huge production 3D scenes). Those I can think of on top of my head.
I'd like to see a gaming comparison between the M1 Ultra and M2 Ultra. If you can show binned vs un-binned on the M2 Ultra, that would be great. I'd like to see native arm and Crossover vs Apple; game porting tool too.
Cheers for the comparison. Always find it interesting that tech channels always do Final Cut but never Apple's other flagship app; Logic Pro. Some track count and plugin-in count benchmarks for Logic Pro would help grow and distinguish your channel's test vids. Just sayin'. Peace.
I really don't understand why you don't include benches for Adobe premiere and after effects which are industry standards and the vast majority of editors are using it as their daily driver. Also why won't you use PUGET benches? Comparing export times is so shallow comparison. PUGET are comparing so much more: playback, gfx performance etc. It's a real shame because this channel rocks, and you are making the right product comparisons but not using the proper benchmarks 😢
Why would anyone be expecting big leaps in improvements with a next version of chip. If you had a 2015 MBP then 2016 MBP not much faster. 2017 not much faster then a 2016. 2018 not much faster then a 2017. See the pattern then. Very few people do the every version upgrade as really not worth it,
Mate you NEED!! to do a M2 ultra 64gb ram VS 128Gb ram comparison. I got the 64gb on release and am utilising 50/70% during my workflow and would like to see if I should custom order another one with 128gb ram. cheers Big love form Australia! love the vids. straight to the number no mucking around exactly the videos working professionals want to see.
I have not seen a comparison of the M2 Ultra 60 GPU cores to the 76 cores. I bought the 60 cores with 128GB ram thinking that 16 more cores isn't worth the $1,000. I'm just curious why the 76 cores hasn't been tested. I came from Mac I7, as a result, huge difference. I do a lot of Blender work and GPU oriented software.
What's going to happen when all these tests become real time, with the arrival of the M3, or certainly the M4 chips. Are we going to then try and make more demanding tests that don't reflect real world usage, like rendering imax video, or processing 10000 raw photos, or running 3000 audio channels? Already its splitting hairs on how fast these machines go 20% not mind boggling. If money no object for anyone we could all indulge in a new mac when it's released.
Hi Max Tech, have you guys done a spreadsheet with all benchmarks for all macs from the start of apple silicon, just so that you can look at current offers to see if it is say worth buying a macbook air M2 15.3" with 16gb ram and 512gb ssd for £1,799 (UK) or buying a macbook pro M1 16 with 16gb ram and 512gb ssd currently on offer at £1,699 (UK), results could show the difference between general use, video editing, music, gaming, battery life, cheaper to run, better screen, weight etc , it's just a thought? Or is it worth waiting for a full M3 and bottlenecks to be resolved in the apple silicon macs to get best performance and battery life?
The only real downside of the Studio, compared to the current Mac Pro is the looks. It's a great computer but it just doesn't look nearly as cool or interesting as the Mac Pro. It look boring.
Is m3 is a actually 3 nanometer those performance boosts should be incredible and m4 with optimizations at that scale would probably be sick so I see things leveling off at m5. I think m4 may end up being that sweet spot for an upgrade from an M1 around those generations
@@ProjectileGrommet it depends, to some people an 20% increase in performance means a lot, to most people, upgrading every 5-6 years is pretty reasonable.
@@tanthokg no that’s what I’m saying, when the m6 or m7 is out I think performance boosts will have leveled off and the m4 will be the best per dollar in that era to upgrade to something used instead of something new. I see where the confusion came from
I wish they let you overclock the M1 Ultra. Seems like the cooler would be able to handle it. I wonder how the performance would be if the wattage matched. If you guys can figure out a way to do that and not fry the chips, that would be amazing.
@@MtFoxt The ram is soldered on but overclocking is software so it's maybe possible? The 16'' Macbook has a high power mode so something equivalent to that would be awesome.
I have coil whine is my M1 Studio, it's noticeable in a room with wood floors and windows. In a carpeted and curtained room, I don't notice it. So if you have sound deadening material you may not notice it.
@@asafblasbergvideographer The Studio has an always-on fan, so its happens all the time. If I manually lower the fan speed the whine isn't as noticeable. It really depends on the room setup and individuals sensitivity to sound.
Apple totally forget about music user.... the performance on Logic pro is ridiculous! How can you get less tracks with a new model! To be honest I've a macbookpro m2 and I've less powerful than my Imac intel 27" I9.... and apple tells you the opposite but in real life it's not true! Really disappointed with these new models :(
Actually the 27” iMac had really good graphics performance with its dedicated GPU. It’s similar to the old 2019 Intel MacBook Pro 16”, and while the M2 actually has more powerful CPU performance than both the Intel MacBook and the iMac, the integrated graphics is still a bit behind the discrete GPUs of the other two. But the M2 MBP is actually not in the same product category as these two - it’s the entry level model. The M2 Pro (or Max, tho it’s overkill) MacBook Pro is the machine you should be comparing to these, because it’s in the same category and price range as these were.
HELP! I can't find a good comparison of the base MB Pro 16 to the base Mac Studio. I'm using a 2019 base MBpro16 and Davinci Resolve Studio... when I try to use ai tools like magic mask, tracking of any kind, voice isolation, etc., my machine grinds to a crawl and tells me it hates me. Literally takes 2 minutes to process 6 seconds of footage just for magic mask, if it works at all. And it takes me 45 min to 1hr or more to export a 45 min 1080p 60fps video with only color grading and voice isolation applied. ...Is the bottleneck the GPU or the RAM? ...I'm torn between upgrading to a base M2 MBpro16 or a base M2 Mac Studio... I work all over the place (coffee shops, the mall, every room in my house has a desk), but I could adjust my workflow if I NEED the extra RAM and performance from the Studio. ...My use-case is this: fix color and audio on 45 min videos 4k or less but up to 60fps, export them, then edit them into 10 minute videos, all with color grading, magic mask, tracking, voice isolation, dialogue leveler, auto-transcription, and whatever built-in AI goodies I learn how to use... Is 16 GB of RAM in the base laptop not enough? Is the base M2 Pro chip in the laptop not enough? ...
Would love to see how well it performs with accumulation effects in fusion for 3d camera. Depth mask. Optical and Vector motion blur in fusion. Fusion is where things can come to a standstill even on a powerful system.
Apple only wants to give me $1500 for my m1 ultra 48core...I think I'll keep it. I bet if they sold me the guts for an m2 ultra it be cheaper. It also be nice if they fixed the throttling issue...and this is where the BS lies.
What about export of 10 bit video? Realistically, video editors, colorist etc use 10 if not more bit depth. Also, maybe more tests on Davinci? Since everyone is switching lol
I have a 3 hour timeline that is taking 5 hrs to render out to h.264 on the m1 ultra. Ok. It has extreme temporal and spatial noise reduction, and anti flicker and colour compression applied to the ex-vhs footage damaged by poor tape storage. Very reasonable performance given the effects applied. [
i think apple had this entire thing done 2 years ago. What do I mean. They built the chassis of this thing to get rid of way more heat then existed. Every fan was on idle and we got good performance. I can imagine a world where each version of "m" ends up running hotter and using more power to finally fit the thermal design of the case. We are going to get milked.
I use Mac Studio for development and AI, the unified memory architecture allows me to run very large models that would otherwise be very expensive to run in the cloud. For me, the killer feature of the new mac studio is more GPU cores and 192GB of RAM.
Can you include AI performance tests? That’s probably the most interesting topic on the ultra with high demanding on memory, and will be unique than any other max channels.
How do you guys think, would it be worth upgrading from M1 to M3-something since it would utilise 3nm process or it will be better off waiting till M4-something since it also will be a chip overhaul?
I'm not sure if it's a genuine question (I haven't watched the video at this time I wrote this comment), but buy what you need right now, or you end up waiting for eternity
Like the previous comment states, if you need it when the M3 version comes out then go ahead and get it. Otherwise, just wait til you really do need it or like what is being offered at the time. I'm currently waiting for the M3 MBP 14inch as my old 2012 MBP is still doing okay, but it obviously shows its age and needs to be replaced soon.
When Apple tests a computer chip, and one or several of the cores don’t work, rather than trashing it they solder off a certain number of cores and sell it at a lower price. This is then the binned model. For example, M2 Ultra: it’s supposed to have 76 GPU cores, but if a few don’t work, they’ll solder off 16 and give you the 60 GPU core variant for $1000 less.
This video was almost worthless because you were not running a 128GB 76-core M2 in the race. The GPU cores are absolutely used by Premiere for rendering (and Resolve is also optimised) so a large, complicated clip is going to see a noticeable benefit from getting the maxed-out version. And the additional RAM can be solely used by the GPU for high-intensity tasks.
Concur! I know these videos are more aimed at what’s the better buy for the masses, but how about some love for the high end power-users? Specifically, I want a comparison of the 128GB 76-core vs a 192GB 76-core, and if the major NLEs would see a difference with the higher GPU core count.
@@mcignatz It's not as if The Two Stooges had no clue that people would want to see the 76-core's performance rated. The early word coming out was that the bottleneck holding back scaling had been addressed. So from a curiosity standpoint, that should have been their priority. Anyway...my 192/76 arrives in two weeks so will do my own tests vs my 64/48 M1. If no one else posts useful tests, I might have to make my own video! (As for the difference between the 128 and 192 configurations, there will be a quick answer if I never see memory usage going beyond 128GB during a heavy render, even if PP has been allotted, say 172GB.)
@@mcignatz Have had the M2 Ultra Studio for a few days now. It's SO noticeably faster than my M1 Ultra Studio that it was pointless to do side-by-side tests. Premiere grabs 168GB of RAM and that's fine most of the time. Based on the usage, one can get away with 128GB. On an average 4K timeline render with Lumetri, Lighting Effects, Samurai and Film Convert Nitrate, PP uses 108GB. So I'm glad to have the bonus 64GB so I don't have to keep an eye on the memory. A luxury, not necessity. The 76 cores makes a huge difference as renders fly by in handfuls of seconds. (As long as "Render in Maximum Resolution" is disabled due to a bug which prevents ALL cores and GPU from being used.) The GPU is so powerful that for using Neat Video's Noiseware, just the GPU alone provides 6 fps. Adding ALL cores to that only inches it to 6.01 fps.
@@Needcreative With lots of effects or noise reduction on M2 Ultra ? Or basic video editing ? Because basic editing is a bit hard to measure since most computers can handle it nowadays.
Not everyone has to upgrade every year. In fact, a 20-30% improvement is pretty solid to me. I'm not trying to defend anyone, but asking for 2x performance every generation is just unreasonable, transistor count cannot be double every year, since going 1 nm smaller below 5nm is extremely hard
@@tanthokg transistor count is just one part of the equation..and nobody talked about tCount anyways. It's pretty disgusting politics to release the same exact chip with slight undervolt and higher clocks with some improved SIMD for the later chip only! You don't get it my boy..the M1 pro/max should have received SIMD update too and the m2max should have had bigger die size for significant improvement
@@PKperformanceEU "educate yourself first" that's the problem, I'm not super-interested or an expert in the field, that's why I asked you instead of spending hours of research. Asking is also a form of "educate", I believe you fully aware about that. Anyway, if you refuse to answer, then I have nothing to say anymore. Best regards
It’s difficult to follow when the charts have errors, errors like switching score between models. This isn’t the first I’ve noticed this. This a “quality control” issue that has been quite neglected in your channel.
7:46 you said you can hit 28 FPS with the 2k dollar model….the chart reads 4k dollar model.
The charts for Black Magic's Da Vinci (RAW) have consistently been labeled "de-nosing" which, while hilarious to imagine, is also wrong. 😏
Perhaps a useful weapon against Pennywise 🎈 though? 🤣
I don’t care about little mistakes. The Overall Message about the Performances is clear. Thanks for the great Video Max ✌️
M2 Ultra, what a beautiful machine :)
@@robertleidner9703 Justo to give you one example, at 1:40. The labels are all wrong or at least 2 of them are, where it says M2 Max it should be M2 Ultra and then the price for that one is also wrong. The 2 M1 Ultras, one of them should be M1 Max (which one, I don't know). There are other examples.
Max, you really need to add Redshift and OctaneX redering of Moana Island scene. Your Blender test is ok but it isn't really a good stick to measure when doing heavy scenes. You need to pump those scene file size more.
Waiting for Mini-Led MBA or an oled MBP.
Thanks for this test! Have you tested the M1 Ultra 64Core GPU vs the M2 Ultra 72Core GPU models? Since those are the two higher tier of the Ultra models, I'd be very curious!
M3 Ultra Mac Studio. Then I buy and ditch Intel.
Intel 4x multiple performance , M APPLE Is stupid chip tablet
Please comb your hair properly
Max, you are like a Lego mini fig!
First!
M3 is when the next leap forward will take place. M2 is not really 2nd gen, more like 1.5 gen.
I got the m1 max 32 gb ram and that thing flyes true everything I throw at it it’s so fast I forget lag even exists I can have 50 chrome tabs use Ableton live photoshop and DaVinci resolve all at once just insane.
Definitely interested in seeing a comparison between the base spec M2 Ultra and a spec’d out unbinned M2 ultra with maxed ram. Would love to see some workflow stress tests such as simultaneously transcoding raw to ProRes and working on full res 8k with denoising. I’m interested to see where the extra specs come into play for video editors and colourists, and whether the improvements are worth it over the base model. Appreciate the work guys
Maxed out RAM is useful for CFDs, Astronomical Imaging(think radio telescopes), DAWs and 3D Rendering(huge production 3D scenes). Those I can think of on top of my head.
I'd like to see a gaming comparison between the M1 Ultra and M2 Ultra. If you can show binned vs un-binned on the M2 Ultra, that would be great. I'd like to see native arm and Crossover vs Apple; game porting tool too.
Everything I’ve seen from Andrew Tsai is that the M2 ultra is actually slower currently because it’s not optimized yet
Hey Max, i would like to see a comparison of Mac Studio M1 Ultra vs. Mac Studio M2 Max (if possible with 64GB RAM and 1 TB SSD).
I second that!
Anyone in the comments using an Mac Studio for Stable Diffusion photo rendering?
Cheers for the comparison. Always find it interesting that tech channels always do Final Cut but never Apple's other flagship app; Logic Pro. Some track count and plugin-in count benchmarks for Logic Pro would help grow and distinguish your channel's test vids. Just sayin'. Peace.
Here after going down a rabbit hole of MK Ultra videos. 😃
I really don't understand why you don't include benches for Adobe premiere and after effects which are industry standards and the vast majority of editors are using it as their daily driver.
Also why won't you use PUGET benches? Comparing export times is so shallow comparison. PUGET are comparing so much more: playback, gfx performance etc. It's a real shame because this channel rocks, and you are making the right product comparisons but not using the proper benchmarks 😢
Why would anyone be expecting big leaps in improvements with a next version of chip.
If you had a 2015 MBP then 2016 MBP not much faster. 2017 not much faster then a 2016. 2018 not much faster then a 2017. See the pattern then.
Very few people do the every version upgrade as really not worth it,
Than is used when comparing stuff.
Some people expect the similar uplift when Apple switched from Intel to M-chips in 2020
Sweet! This is literally the video I asked for a few days ago. Well done Max and team.
Mate you NEED!! to do a M2 ultra 64gb ram VS 128Gb ram comparison. I got the 64gb on release and am utilising 50/70% during my workflow and would like to see if I should custom order another one with 128gb ram. cheers Big love form Australia! love the vids. straight to the number no mucking around exactly the videos working professionals want to see.
I have not seen a comparison of the M2 Ultra 60 GPU cores to the 76 cores. I bought the 60 cores with 128GB ram thinking that 16 more cores isn't worth the $1,000. I'm just curious why the 76 cores hasn't been tested. I came from Mac I7, as a result, huge difference. I do a lot of Blender work and GPU oriented software.
Why not get an Nvidia GPU since those are way more optimized for dealing with Blender through the OptiX renderer?
@@arturweber7493 They would have to switch to Windows or Linux to be able to use an NVidia GPU, and @richo9635 wants to use a Mac.
@@arturweber7493 Last I checked, there is no way to put a Nvidia GPU on a MAC and I don't want to get a PC.
@@richod9635 Why not?
@@arturweber7493 windows is really just not that great of a system, especially 11
What's going to happen when all these tests become real time, with the arrival of the M3, or certainly the M4 chips. Are we going to then try and make more demanding tests that don't reflect real world usage, like rendering imax video, or processing 10000 raw photos, or running 3000 audio channels? Already its splitting hairs on how fast these machines go 20% not mind boggling. If money no object for anyone we could all indulge in a new mac when it's released.
Please do a gaming test
Hi Max Tech, have you guys done a spreadsheet with all benchmarks for all macs from the start of apple silicon, just so that you can look at current offers to see if it is say worth buying a macbook air M2 15.3" with 16gb ram and 512gb ssd for £1,799 (UK) or buying a macbook pro M1 16 with 16gb ram and 512gb ssd currently on offer at £1,699 (UK), results could show the difference between general use, video editing, music, gaming, battery life, cheaper to run, better screen, weight etc , it's just a thought? Or is it worth waiting for a full M3 and bottlenecks to be resolved in the apple silicon macs to get best performance and battery life?
Studio M1 max vs Studio M2 max!!!
Will wait for the M3 Studio, hopefully we get that next year.
Yes me to... probably M3 will be a real rocket
just got an m1 ultra for $2500... in my country m2 ultra is $5000.... and $2500 is the most I've spent on something so far, not counting my house.
Can you compare these two machines on games? Path of Exile for example?
M1 max vs m2 Max ? 🤔
Amazing how well the M1 still performs and guessing demand for used and refurbished M1 Studios will be high.
which macbook should i buy 2023 15 inch macbook air or 2021 16 inch m1 pro ?
Do M1 Max vs m2 ultra for people looking to upgrade from 16” MacBook Pro to the studio.
M2Max 12CPU,38GPU,1TB,32GB Enough for editing 8K not very complicated?
The only real downside of the Studio, compared to the current Mac Pro is the looks. It's a great computer but it just doesn't look nearly as cool or interesting as the Mac Pro. It look boring.
2:56 why are CPU Temps at 100% Load better at a higher temperature or watts?
Waiting for M6, M7, for next upgrade of my MBP. I figure I’ll be able to get M1 Ultra performance then on laptop.
True
I have m1 base macbook air
and i feel no limit
Is m3 is a actually 3 nanometer those performance boosts should be incredible and m4 with optimizations at that scale would probably be sick so I see things leveling off at m5. I think m4 may end up being that sweet spot for an upgrade from an M1 around those generations
@@ProjectileGrommet it depends, to some people an 20% increase in performance means a lot, to most people, upgrading every 5-6 years is pretty reasonable.
K see you in 4-5 years
@@tanthokg no that’s what I’m saying, when the m6 or m7 is out I think performance boosts will have leveled off and the m4 will be the best per dollar in that era to upgrade to something used instead of something new. I see where the confusion came from
Hey Max, great video! How do I find the BMW test for blender? I can’t find it anywhere and I’m working seeing how you got it. Thanks!
Any chance to leave the charts up longer instead of watching you talk . Important is focus on the charts not watching you talking
Can you do a comparison of both of the M2 Max Studio configurations for the 30 vs 38 cores?
I wish they let you overclock the M1 Ultra. Seems like the cooler would be able to handle it. I wonder how the performance would be if the wattage matched. If you guys can figure out a way to do that and not fry the chips, that would be amazing.
It's apple. you would be lucky if they allowed you to upgrade your ram let alone overclock.
@@MtFoxt The ram is soldered on but overclocking is software so it's maybe possible? The 16'' Macbook has a high power mode so something equivalent to that would be awesome.
Always the ultimate guidance when buying macs ❤❤
thank you guys ❤
you have to make a video about gaming Since there's a lack on this topic.
I have coil whine is my M1 Studio, it's noticeable in a room with wood floors and windows. In a carpeted and curtained room, I don't notice it. So if you have sound deadening material you may not notice it.
How often does it occur?
@@asafblasbergvideographer The Studio has an always-on fan, so its happens all the time. If I manually lower the fan speed the whine isn't as noticeable. It really depends on the room setup and individuals sensitivity to sound.
@@Joe_Brig OK thanks Joe.
@@Joe_Brig you have to replace that studio
7:06 - I think you got the prices reversed on M1 vs M2 Ultras
Apple totally forget about music user.... the performance on Logic pro is ridiculous! How can you get less tracks with a new model! To be honest I've a macbookpro m2 and I've less powerful than my Imac intel 27" I9.... and apple tells you the opposite but in real life it's not true! Really disappointed with these new models :(
Actually the 27” iMac had really good graphics performance with its dedicated GPU. It’s similar to the old 2019 Intel MacBook Pro 16”, and while the M2 actually has more powerful CPU performance than both the Intel MacBook and the iMac, the integrated graphics is still a bit behind the discrete GPUs of the other two. But the M2 MBP is actually not in the same product category as these two - it’s the entry level model. The M2 Pro (or Max, tho it’s overkill) MacBook Pro is the machine you should be comparing to these, because it’s in the same category and price range as these were.
HELP! I can't find a good comparison of the base MB Pro 16 to the base Mac Studio.
I'm using a 2019 base MBpro16 and Davinci Resolve Studio... when I try to use ai tools like magic mask, tracking of any kind, voice isolation, etc., my machine grinds to a crawl and tells me it hates me. Literally takes 2 minutes to process 6 seconds of footage just for magic mask, if it works at all. And it takes me 45 min to 1hr or more to export a 45 min 1080p 60fps video with only color grading and voice isolation applied.
...Is the bottleneck the GPU or the RAM?
...I'm torn between upgrading to a base M2 MBpro16 or a base M2 Mac Studio... I work all over the place (coffee shops, the mall, every room in my house has a desk), but I could adjust my workflow if I NEED the extra RAM and performance from the Studio.
...My use-case is this: fix color and audio on 45 min videos 4k or less but up to 60fps, export them, then edit them into 10 minute videos, all with color grading, magic mask, tracking, voice isolation, dialogue leveler, auto-transcription, and whatever built-in AI goodies I learn how to use...
Is 16 GB of RAM in the base laptop not enough? Is the base M2 Pro chip in the laptop not enough? ...
Blenderbench shows the M1 Ultra scaling better than the M2 Ultra. TLB makes little difference once software is optimised to use GPU caching correctly.
I wish Apple still sold the M1 Max and m1 ultra ones
Would love to see how well it performs with accumulation effects in fusion for 3d camera. Depth mask. Optical and Vector motion blur in fusion. Fusion is where things can come to a standstill even on a powerful system.
I would be interested in a same priced pc desktop comparison
This is a game changer! I would love to see the M1 Max vs M2 Max/Ultra
Same!
Apple only wants to give me $1500 for my m1 ultra 48core...I think I'll keep it. I bet if they sold me the guts for an m2 ultra it be cheaper. It also be nice if they fixed the throttling issue...and this is where the BS lies.
Would like to see the full fat m2 ultra added to this comparison!
I like to see a comparison between the M1 Max and M2 Max to see if its worth updating!
What about export of 10 bit video?
Realistically, video editors, colorist etc use 10 if not more bit depth.
Also, maybe more tests on Davinci? Since everyone is switching lol
Do some aftereffects rendering.pleasee
Will it be able to handle gmail and Amazon 😂
Dude your hairstyle is nice.
Hey, I need to know how the 8K streams holds up. M1 does 17 when I test. How many does M2 Ultra do?
I have a 3 hour timeline that is taking 5 hrs to render out to h.264 on the m1 ultra. Ok. It has extreme temporal and spatial noise reduction, and anti flicker and colour compression applied to the ex-vhs footage damaged by poor tape storage.
Very reasonable performance given the effects applied. [
Yet with Light Room Classic import speeds which is what counts the M2 Ultra is only marginally faster then the M1 Ultra
What happened to your hair?
The Geekbench 6 Multi Core slide is messed up as you accidentally referred to the M2 Ultra as a M2 Max 12c ( and gave it the highest score ).
i think apple had this entire thing done 2 years ago. What do I mean. They built the chassis of this thing to get rid of way more heat then existed. Every fan was on idle and we got good performance. I can imagine a world where each version of "m" ends up running hotter and using more power to finally fit the thermal design of the case. We are going to get milked.
Why were you expecting more out of the Geek-bench 6 Multi-Core score? What were you basing this on?
Apple’s claims of 20% higher performance.
How does denoising Blackmagic Raw compare to denoising log footage?
Wrong title bro! Should have been:
ThIS cHaNGeS eVeRYTHanG
Do you think the basic mac mini m3 will be enough to edit 4k drone videos in?
I use Mac Studio for development and AI, the unified memory architecture allows me to run very large models that would otherwise be very expensive to run in the cloud. For me, the killer feature of the new mac studio is more GPU cores and 192GB of RAM.
I don't think you're working in AI professionally at all. The bottleneck is in compute not memory
M2 is overclocked M1? I don't like to hear it, but I can believe it.
It’s still better to keep your old Mac as a rendering machine.
If I come across any content creator in real life I know a 6k XRD display and the in inner M2 ultra is a perfect setup
what about intel i9/4090 vs m2 ultra vs m2 max😮
What ultra should I get as a video editor in DR? I was ready to max out but is it necessary?
Would like to see how Topaz Video AI performs.
Yes, please test a maxed out M1 Ultra vs. a maxed out M2 Ultra.
baam
At 7:55 did you mean the $4 thousand model? Cause you said $2 thousand
I read MK Ultra every time I see M1 or M2 Ultra written somewhere lol
Can you include AI performance tests? That’s probably the most interesting topic on the ultra with high demanding on memory, and will be unique than any other max channels.
gpu power consumption would have been interesting
Bro, I hope you are ok. I support your decision either way.
Thanks Max! I want the MacBook Pro M3 Max😍
yes compare the pedal to the metal m2 ultra vs maxed out m1 ultra
How do you guys think, would it be worth upgrading from M1 to M3-something since it would utilise 3nm process or it will be better off waiting till M4-something since it also will be a chip overhaul?
I'm not sure if it's a genuine question (I haven't watched the video at this time I wrote this comment), but buy what you need right now, or you end up waiting for eternity
Like the previous comment states, if you need it when the M3 version comes out then go ahead and get it. Otherwise, just wait til you really do need it or like what is being offered at the time. I'm currently waiting for the M3 MBP 14inch as my old 2012 MBP is still doing okay, but it obviously shows its age and needs to be replaced soon.
I would like to see maxed out M2 Ultra Gaming Performance and compare it to rtx 4090 desktop
It is a pointless comparison. There are next to no games optimized for Metal 3. Nobody in their right mind would buy a Mac for gaming.
3rd
M1 Max VS M2Max please.
Can you please leave politics out of your videos.
Definitely interested in the M2 Ultra binned vs unbinned comparison as this will be critical to which of these models I intend to buy this year.
What's the LG monitor that you were using?
Lg ultra fine
M1 gaaaang!
I ask again: what do you mean with binned/unbinned?
Binned means it has fewer CPU or GPU cores than is possible.
@@FoolishImp Ok thanks... What a weird definition
@@Rbksmn you have google
When Apple tests a computer chip, and one or several of the cores don’t work, rather than trashing it they solder off a certain number of cores and sell it at a lower price. This is then the binned model. For example, M2 Ultra: it’s supposed to have 76 GPU cores, but if a few don’t work, they’ll solder off 16 and give you the 60 GPU core variant for $1000 less.
@@Epicgamer_Mac thanks
First! And also, yeah, the jump from M1 Ultra to M2 Ultra is truly incredible.
Thanks for supporting Black Rifle!
This video was almost worthless because you were not running a 128GB 76-core M2 in the race. The GPU cores are absolutely used by Premiere for rendering (and Resolve is also optimised) so a large, complicated clip is going to see a noticeable benefit from getting the maxed-out version. And the additional RAM can be solely used by the GPU for high-intensity tasks.
Concur! I know these videos are more aimed at what’s the better buy for the masses, but how about some love for the high end power-users? Specifically, I want a comparison of the 128GB 76-core vs a 192GB 76-core, and if the major NLEs would see a difference with the higher GPU core count.
@@mcignatz It's not as if The Two Stooges had no clue that people would want to see the 76-core's performance rated. The early word coming out was that the bottleneck holding back scaling had been addressed. So from a curiosity standpoint, that should have been their priority. Anyway...my 192/76 arrives in two weeks so will do my own tests vs my 64/48 M1. If no one else posts useful tests, I might have to make my own video! (As for the difference between the 128 and 192 configurations, there will be a quick answer if I never see memory usage going beyond 128GB during a heavy render, even if PP has been allotted, say 172GB.)
@@alexiskobalt7450 I look forward to hearing about your results!
@@mcignatz Have had the M2 Ultra Studio for a few days now. It's SO noticeably faster than my M1 Ultra Studio that it was pointless to do side-by-side tests. Premiere grabs 168GB of RAM and that's fine most of the time. Based on the usage, one can get away with 128GB. On an average 4K timeline render with Lumetri, Lighting Effects, Samurai and Film Convert Nitrate, PP uses 108GB. So I'm glad to have the bonus 64GB so I don't have to keep an eye on the memory. A luxury, not necessity. The 76 cores makes a huge difference as renders fly by in handfuls of seconds. (As long as "Render in Maximum Resolution" is disabled due to a bug which prevents ALL cores and GPU from being used.) The GPU is so powerful that for using Neat Video's Noiseware, just the GPU alone provides 6 fps. Adding ALL cores to that only inches it to 6.01 fps.
@@alexiskobalt7450 Thanks for the update! It seems like 128GB is nice, but 192GB is... nicer!
M2 Ultra vs Intel 13th gen 4090 that is what we want to see.
@@Needcreative So way slower than i9-13900KS and RTX 4090
@@Needcreative With lots of effects or noise reduction on M2 Ultra ? Or basic video editing ? Because basic editing is a bit hard to measure since most computers can handle it nowadays.
Please, Max. The shirt. Uncommon L.
Triggered? lol
Yeah. This channel has lost me.
Uncommon L? Is that good or bad?
@@andrewobergood
your editing has errors every video
I SMELL SIMD GAME AGAIN....JUST LIKE INTEL AND AMD MANIPULATING THE MARKET BY IMPROVING INSTRUCTION SETS
Not everyone has to upgrade every year. In fact, a 20-30% improvement is pretty solid to me. I'm not trying to defend anyone, but asking for 2x performance every generation is just unreasonable, transistor count cannot be double every year, since going 1 nm smaller below 5nm is extremely hard
@@tanthokg transistor count is just one part of the equation..and nobody talked about tCount anyways. It's pretty disgusting politics to release the same exact chip with slight undervolt and higher clocks with some improved SIMD for the later chip only!
You don't get it my boy..the M1 pro/max should have received SIMD update too and the m2max should have had bigger die size for significant improvement
@@PKperformanceEU I'm not sure about the "the M1 pro/max should have received SIMD update too", could you please elaborate that further if possible?
@@tanthokg you don't even know what SIMD stands for. That's the problem, educate yourself first
@@PKperformanceEU "educate yourself first" that's the problem, I'm not super-interested or an expert in the field, that's why I asked you instead of spending hours of research. Asking is also a form of "educate", I believe you fully aware about that. Anyway, if you refuse to answer, then I have nothing to say anymore. Best regards