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- Is it worth spending an extra at least $2000 double the price to get the M2 Ultra? I covered mainly real life tests like video editing performance in DaVinci Resolve, compressed codecs, Canon RAW, 8K, audio production in Logic Pro X, Blender rendering and many more... as well as usual benchmarks like Geekbench 6 and 5, Cinebench r23, Blackmagic RAW etc.
In general, the Mac Studio M2 Max is very powerful Mac and will do well anything you will throw at it, especially if you are working in codecs supported in the Media Engine.
The Mac Studio M2 Ultra, as the name says, is simply really Ultra in many areas. 3D GPU rendering, music production and especially video editing, those are areas where you will see the biggest gains over the M2 Max and sometimes as I showed you in this video even up to 2.27 times more performance.
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Timeline Index:
00:00 Intro
00:21 Good News
00:48 Pricing
01:16 Physical Differences & Specs
02:42 SSD Speeds
03:34 Memory Bandwidth
03:57 Geekbench 6 Single Core
04:21 Frequencies
04:30 Geekbench 6 Multi Core
04:48 Geekbench 5
05:06 Cinebench r23
05:17 Blackmagic RAW
05:33 Audio Production
06:14 Blender CPU
06:45 Web Browsing Performance
06:62 Safari vs Google Chrome
07:10 GPU capabilities
07:47 Geekbench 6 & 5 GPU
08:07 Blender GPU
08:25 Blender CPU vs GPU
08:42 Photo Editing
09:40 Video Editing - Media Engine
10:16 Apple Compressor
11:11 DaVinci Resolve “Candle” Test
11:47 DaVinci Resolve Canon RAW 8K
12:42 DR Proxy Transcoding
13:14 DR Smart Cache Generation
14:05 DR Export times
14:29 DR Smart Cache Generation 2
14:43 DR Export times 2
14:59 Best Surprise For Last
15:26 DR Tracking
15:45 DR Export times 3
16:08 Which One You Should Get
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Best review and test for editors and Studio houses so far. Big thanks I’m ordering M2 ultra today
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Thank you for this video. It’s super informative. And I know,this took a loooong time to put together.
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As always great content that rocks but now I want to see you shredding on the Strats and Les Pauls and giving comparisons. 😀🎸👍
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Love your channel, so glad to see you again!
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Excellent comparison. Thank you. Subscribed.
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Very helpful, thanks!
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Great video, super clear, thanks!
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I’ve been looking for a video that combines real world use cases with benchmarks. You nailed it! Love this. Thanks so much!! +sub 😊
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Thanks, Teresa, for the very helpful video!
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Nice video i like your music production test
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@@morgonautmam please I canfuz between Macbook Pro 14 inch and 16 inch macbook pro for music production please make video on that
Please make video on Macbook Pro 14 inch vs Macbook Pro 16 inch for music production
TY for this!!!
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Great video. Much of it was over my head so I’ll need to watch it a few times. It seems that your usage is the same as mine; video editing. I’m learning and deciding whether to upgrade.
Curious, have you tried Magic Mask in Fusion on the Max and the Ultra? It’s oddly very slow in Fusion but quite fast on the Color Page.
@dougdina - sure I use it all the time, but it's slow even on M2 Ultra
Great Review!
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thanks for the comparison Morgonaut, nice video.. 👌🏻 if you have time, could you please compare them in any graphic/compositing app like autodesk's Flame or Motion, AE, Fusion and so on..thanks and keep up the good work.. 👍🏻
@bobsardjono - I don't have licenses for those, I use Fusion in Resolve
Great content. Full of useful information. Thank you.
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I will recommend your channel. Also subscribed. Your video really did help me narrow down the studio model I will need. Thank you again.
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The picture quality of your video is stunning! Jesus so good!
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The "HDR" Content is SPECTACULAR!!!!!!!!!! Thank You.
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Awesome video, great work :) I realize it isn't economically feasible to have 10 SKUs to test, but It would be interesting to see a comparison of two machines with the same amount of ram and SSD size. So the Max and Ultra comparison would be clearer. It seems like the Ultra's gains skew more since it has so much more memory. And when it does use swap it has a much faster SSD. The Max with 64GB and 1TB might have much better results in some of the more intensive tests?
@matthazard - I prepare comparison between base models of M1 and M2. But already now from my video and detailed numbers it's absolutely possible to make a picture how any configuration would perform. And yes, I'm not a millionaire to buy all Macs available just to produce so intense content and for free
Please do the logic test with the lowest buffer size as well since that's more relevant. Thanks❤
No necessarily. When I'm mixing, I run the buffer as high as possible; only when I'm recording would I run the buffer as low as possible. There's another (lengthy) video by "Sound Fixations" with low buffer recording on Logic. He's also running Kontakt on every track. He got over 800 tracks!
@@tekis0 I was speaking for myself.
Great video
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Amazing work. I work mostly in 4k from Sony FS7's (Premiere) and 2D motion graphics in After Effects. Looks like the Max might suite my needs. Thanks for the thorough analysis!
@jasonk9770 - if you use Premiere then don't waste money on any new computer because this unoptimized crap will run like trash on even fastest super computer in Universe. If you would use Resolve then of course I would recommend the Mac Studio
what are your full specs on M2 Max?
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@@morgonaut hehe sorry i'm gonna have to rewatch. :D
Nice video.
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Excellent video comparison with impressive data presentation.
Need your consultation: I'm a photographer and edits a lot of RAW images in Lightroom and Photoshop
Today I have an iMac 2016 with 16 giga ram memory and a 2 tera SSD drive, the editing on the computer is relatively very slow.
Deciding between Mac Studio M2 Max Chip 12-Core CPU, 38-Core GPU, 64GB Unified Memory, 2TB SSD Storage
and between Mac Studio M2 Ultra Chip 24-Core CPU, 60-Core GPU, 64GB Unified Memory, 2TB SSD Storage
what is your opinion?
Thanks.
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Can the Mac Studio M2 Max handle well with well-known editing programs such as Adobe Premiere, Final Cut, and Da Vinci, smoothly and easily for video clip production and wedding production, because I work in the field of wedding photography and I have a photography camera such as the Sony A7S3 and Canon Mark IV 5D Please, I want a frank answer. Thank you
@user-wc9gx6wt6h - wrong question! Max can do it well, problem is user! I run 8K multicam Canon RAW production on AS and Resolve with super smoothness, but it took me a while to optimize my workflow
I will buy a M2 Ultra for heavy photoshop work but I need to know if I need to upgrade to 128 GB or what are your upgrades recommendations if any? Thank you and have a wonderful day :)
@paola9550 - it only depends on you, I can't know how huge projects you plan to work on, how many and how demanding other apps you want to be running etc.. Without detailed info it's not possible to suggest anything. I recommend you to book a video meeting with me and we can elaborate it in detail personally - link is in video description. I could give you meeting even today if you will write me email
What about running virtual machines? What would be the delta between Max & Ultra?
@lclira - on my M1 Max I run several Ventura VMs, several Linux ones and even Mac Os 9.22 :)
I get 326 seconds In Blender bench with your project file with my "old style" Hackintosh with a 7950x cpu, 16 cores + HT vs 24 cores... holy cow... that's a real smashing result for an x86_64 based Hackintosh!!!
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But thanks for your comment, it's always better to have results from more people for wide comparison
11:30 With RTX3080 I also have 26,5FPS playback but it cost 600€ new and 350-400€ secondhand
I wish I had to debate between a Mac Studio Max or Ultra.....my dilemma is between an M2 Mini or Mini Pro....leaning Pro 😄. Great vid !
@goobfilmcast4239 - one day you will get what you want, don't worry. But it's better to get Mac Studio Max instead of the Mini Pro
If you can afford even the lowest tier Mac Studio (refub, used), then try to get the Studio. I work in professional audio. I used to have a Mac Mini Server, and I really loved it. But I've watched some comparisons of the high-tier Mac Mini's vs the Studio's, and the Studio's were better, even with SIMILAR chips! I couldn't believe it. I have patiently waited a few months to save up for the Studio. My only reservation is the new OS. Having tried Ventura, I MUCH prefer Monterey.
@tekis0 - I always tech my clients from audio industry to stay on Monterey and not upgrade to Ventura
bonjour, très bonne video, je sais maintenant quel Mac , je vais prendre : certainement un Mac studio ultra avec 4 to de disque dur et 128 gigas de mémoire , merci et bonjour de Marseille de France.....
@ericbrucci9044 - toutes mes salutations à Marseille 🇫🇷
I wonder how these results would be if the m2 ultra was the binned chip with 60 cores and 64GB of unified memory. Your M2 ultra is a beast with a 76 core gpu and 192gb or unifiend memory. If the m2 max mac studio had more unified memory, would some of these results change?
@martynmarriott2700 - you can easily count it yourself when I gave you results for 76-core GPU and you know the binned has 60 = do your math
What about the amount of unified memory? @@morgonaut
@martynmarriott2700 - you know the answer - it depends on your workload, so if you need X amount of memory then you should get X amount of memory plus something in top of it
should be 76 cores, not 72 cores 😮
@generic_official - yes you're right. It took me 5 weeks to do all the tests and collect all these numbers so it can happen I made single mistake
@@morgonautYou are forgiven, Morgonaut!😅
@tekis0 - how generous of you 😇
the end of hackintosh is very near when morgonaut does reviews of actual mac stuff.
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I'm a Mac user for more than 3 decades, I was always producing content primarily about MAC!!!!!!!!!!
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I trust your opinion still I very sucessfully built my Hackintosh back in 2016 that still runs very good today…🎉🎉🎉
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I’d just go with the max tbh. 2k price difference is not worth it.
@TylerHemmings - as I showed in this video for some it is worth it
For the logic audio test - Lower buffer size is more challenging for a computer. More is easier.
@guysmiley7289 - OMG I always wonder why people try teach eagle to fly! I'm a musician for more than 4 decades. Nobody smart will use millions of plugins for real time recording but for mixing and for that everybody smart will use higher buffer size! And read comment before posting, this was already discussed here several times!
Glad I spent the money for the base M2 Ultra. It really sped up my email and web browsing. 😂😂😂
@FOBob-sr1fd - fine joke, but, well, for just emails and web you don't need Ultra. And if you need Ultra for let's say video production then the base just 64GB of memory is very limiting in many workloads and will decrease performance significantly even to a territory where Max will be better and cheaper 😂 But I'm glad you are happy with your decision 😇
@@morgonaut Actually I’m an X-Plane user and was looking for faster frame rates. So…… you are correct. I got maybe 1-2 FPS improvement moving from the M1 Studio Max to M2 Studio Ultra. Your tests basically predicted this.
However Laminar is updating their software all the time and I’m pretty sure a future edition of X-Plane will be able to take advantage of the extra pipes. 😉
@FOBob-sr1fd - unfortunately I'm always right and most people don't like it I'm glad you value that
@@morgonaut I am trying Affinity Photo and it’s pretty snappy so at least that’s good. 👍
Thanks for the video, but the difference between a M2 Max 38 c GPU and the M2 Ultra 60 c GPU will be not as big. 😏
@filiproose6070 - not as big? It's almost half :) And also half the encode/decode engines and half the memory
@morgonaut Yes but the difference between 30c and 72c is much more than 38c vs 60 c 😉
@filiproose6070 - looks like you're trying to justify your purchase decision 😇
That's like $2,000 vs $5,000 (at least) for 72GPU. Anyway, even base M2 Ultra seems struggling here, maybe I should skip to M3 Ultra. Thanks a lot!
Why is my m2 ultra 60 Core GPU, 128gb of memory unable to play back a simple 5 min DCI4K from the sony FX3 with a colorgrade and a single effeft
@7-bs - you would need to provide more info, nobody can judge without any details. File format, codec, size, storage, app etc....
could you please use make a video or let me know here about your resolve settings cause im having to set my playback resolution at 1080p for a 25 second video with a heAVY COLORGRADE and minimal noise reduction @@morgonaut
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@@7-bs I smell BS...
Will wait for the M3 Ultra with more efficient 3nm technology!
@rodneydangerfield7153 - you can wait forever with this mindset
M2 Ultra Vs Hackintosh ?😊😊😊
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Frankly, unless you need to run Boot Camp or have a very specific need for a GPU type or other legacy PCIe hardware, Intel is a dead end. Personally, I love(d) older Macs but since the intro of Apple Silicon, my formerly deep nostalgia for "vintage" Macs has evaporated. Apple's future has never looked brighter.
@goobfilmcast4239 - " Intel is a dead end" - not true. Intel Mac Pro 2019 will rise in price in next years mainly because of the ability of PCIe cards and up to 1.5TB of memory. It will take ages for Apple Silicon to offer this. My 2019 Mac Pro is more powerful already now in specific workloads over the M2 Ultra, I'm working on video on it
@@morgonaut no update for Last 6 months in Hackintosh YT. So I ask You. thank you nice video
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I have pretty old custom PC. In blender test 6:31 my 180€ CPU did it in 1200 sec (just 8 core CPU) and my GPU 8:19 did it in 120 sec. So it means that new M2 Ultra is powerful as 5 years old custom PC with RTX3080, but as advantage it has more video encodes/decoders. Hands down it's a good machine, but still custom PC make more sense... New Intel 14th gen will give us more video encoders/decoders than current 13th gen so even video editting will be much better on PC than ever before. M2 Ultra cost 8000€, custom PC 3500€
@torsrive8920 - not really, I rendered everything in 4K UHD resolution so set it to 4K too and let's see
@@morgonaut Yeah I render 4K
@torsrive8920 - your 1200 seconds on CPU is not the same as mine only 890! You can't say it's the same speed when it's big difference. And the gpu render is on par with your RTX 3080. Also don't forget your 3080 can utilize only fraction of video memory M2 Ultra can address so on big scenes your 3080 will be beaten to dust! But overall as I said million times people should use the right tool for the job done. And many apps just because they run natively on Apple silicon does not mean they are OPTIMIZED for AS!
Ill still pick the M2 Max $2000. No one waits in front of the computer to render and export their files. I'll take the $2170 i saved (with tax) put that in a $% APR HYSA get the $80 buck from interest for the year. I'll also save -30% from the depreciation for holding the Ultra compare to the Max.
@carlzheng2683 - you wrote "No one waits in front of the computer to render and export their files" - that's absolute BS. Speak for yourself and not for all people on the Globe! I wait in front of my computer for my renders which are reasonably fast. Maybe you don't wait on crappy computer
The Mac Mini M3 will be a better option in a few months.
@JayzBeerz - there is always gonna be something around the corner, you are the one who will wait forever??
No need to switch camera views. Distracting and you loose eye contact.
@samtronicsvideo7232 - will you also dictate to me what should I wear or how should speak? You're welcome!
Hi again…. Your clothes and voice are just fine…. But coming from a long time video professional, I do question why you need the extra side view camera angle,…. As i said, in my opinion, totally not necessary, does not enhance your performance, and is somewhat distracting, and eye contact is broken….. regards….@@morgonaut
@samtronicsvideo7232 - don't you think it's my business how I do my videos??? Not needed does not mean not welcome,, not good, not useful! Why don't you better do your own videos and show us and then wait for "amazing" comments like yours?
OK that’s fine…. Sorry you can’t accept what should be helpful constructive criticism to make you videos even more pleasing to watch….. carry on doing what you are doing…..@@morgonaut
@samtronicsvideo7232 - it's insane you don't care about informative value of my video at all but you dare to stupidly care about me using two cameras instead of just one! Insane! Stop watching my videos and taking benefit from it and for free!
Switching camera views is very distracting and not needed… think about it…. What is the real reason for switching camera views? You need to learn some of these key points from the professionals….. Others will agree….
@samtronicsvideo7232 - why don't you waste your own money, time and effort to produce your own helpful videos for people and all of that for free instead of posting stupid schooling comments? Do it and then wait for "amazing" comments from people like you. Imagine how much time, money and effort I wasted to bring you so valuable informations in this video and for free. And instead of your thanks all I get is stupid comment??
Awesome and informative video!
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