I was in class with Derek. He was an amazing person and was so excited about the upcoming birth of his child. My heart goes out to his family and coworkers. Being new is stressful enough as it is, but losing a friend/classmate made me have some serious doubts about the job. I am certainly blessed to be in a subdivision with really good people and managers, who have all been extremely helpful during my OJT. The accident happened a week before we were scheduled to mark up. Thank you for sharing this story.
What an awful shame. If the engineer was using air this probably wouldn't have happened. There is a huge difference in how cars react on a shove with and without air. They should teach that to conductors in school. I hated engineers that didn't use air on a shove. Prayers for his family. 🙏🙏🙏
I've almost fallen off and onto the rails on a rainy night. First time working the yard and actually riding cars. Was never shown how to ride certain cars. Everything as far as training was rushed. CP Rail is the worst.
You guys should try the CN!! The trainee's leading the trainee's is ridiculous. I got my 30 in and I'm out now but it has not gotten any better for any class 1's training regiment.
Being 28 myself and a new father of 7 months this hits a little hard and close may he rest in peace and may his family be taken care of in every way prayers for all involved.
We handed off a train in Roseville California to go over donner pass to sparks Nevada on UP, The engineer who was working that trip is a friend of mine just shook his head when his conductor and conductor trainee walked out of the building BOTH wearing Orange new hire hats. One had been there 5 month the other 5 weeks. Lucky they had a tesla train with no work enroute. I did spend 5 minutes talking to both of them about being safe. I remember i was in their shoes 19 years ago. Keep these vids coming and prayers to the family of the young man killed in Baltimore.
Good to see you sir. When and where possible, I always walked my shove. I just felt the most comfortable doing it that way. May God bless and comfort his family.
This hits home. I walked away from NS in Baltimore MD for the reason you stated kept pairing me up with conductors with less than a year experience. Cannot learn the job from just riding the locomotive. Plus a terminal manager with no integrity.
I work in Brunswick, Md and I feel back for a lot of the guys from Richmond who are clueless about our yard, which they are supposed to be qualified at. I go out and assist them so they don’t get hurt or get in trouble for tearing something up!!
This is so sad to hear Joey! A young man's life cut short doing I'm sure his dream job. I'm like you SAFETY Is my 1st PRIORITY no matter what. I'm not cutting corners for NOBODY to jeopardize my life or anyone of my co- worker's point blank! I retired from UPS after 28years with a top safety award for ZERO accidents etc during my time there! Thanks again Joey for great videos etc! Cheers from Laurel, Delaware
I saw you comment earlier about stickers Shawn! Sorry I didn’t reply I was at my Friends daughters birthday party. I temporarily took my store down cause I will be putting my cnc work on there just to keep the cost down and not paying for 2 different stores. Shoot me an email I’ll see if I can something out to you. Railroadtalk@gmail.com
This is sad the young man that lost his life was in the class in front of me my teacher was the one who graduated him he told us about this story which I may add my teacher was the best real stand up guy and he always talk to us about safety the guy that pass also had a baby on the way that he didn’t get to see I mark up in a couple weeks and everyday I keep that in mind that’s why I watch videos like this to learn anything I can because they tell us only way to learn is when you get out their yourself but every bit helps if you ask me
I was knocked off a cut of about 70 empty coal hoppers. Talking on the radio and holding on with one hand. The engineer used the independent brake to stop.
Glad you didn't get run over, I had the same thing, cause of the wind I didn't hear the slack coming, bruised the hell out of the inside of my arm. I keyed the mike and just said "OOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW." Then I got off and walked the engineer all the way back the 35ish cars to the switch we needed. I never forgot that. I use air and shove/pull whenever possible and if I can't I tell the cndr it'll be rough or to walk.
@@2kanchoo I agree. I was thrown along side the rail into the ballast. Thinking back on it. We road guys would get Engineers off the extra board once in a while. They were used to working yard jobs. No air, unless they were transfers. The good thing now days. Crew members have an opportunity to work more than one craft. My Son is an Engineer he say's it helped.
The time trainees are given to learn their territory has been significantly cut back in the last year. Guys that hired in 2021 spent 4 months OJT where I am in WV. Anyone they have hired since summer of last year gets 4-6 weeks tops. I have heard a trainmaster say to new hires "You only need 1 round trip to be qualified" numerous times. Then you get those newly marked up conductors who in all honestly, and to no fault of their own, have no clue wtf they are doing / what is going on, training more new hires. It's a vicious cycle that I have brought up in every union meeting (BLE) in the past year, and it is creating a major recipe for disaster. This is 1000% the companies faults and if we all band together, from the new folks all the way up to the veterans, we can stop these shit bags from hiring people just to kill them.
Awful story Thankyou for sharing… 💯 the company’s fault inter models aren’t meant to be rode this way either are tank cars, they want you to ride like this because your lower to the ground, however this puts you on a hinge so if there is run in or out it automatically shifts your weight on a hinge and places you in harms way. Hopefully the family can survive a lawsuit and sue the 💩 out of this company it’s inexcusable. I brand this up in a safety meeting and they said we used to ride up high (like on a grain car) but didn’t care someone could die.
I hear the pain in your voice, thanks for sharing your thoughts and advice. This is alarming but could have been prevented with the right training as you mentioned. I just applied to be a conductor and waiting to hear back from the company.
Big orange almost killed a student a couple months ago. He was on a conventional job on the west end working in between and a RCO job on the east end started pulling east. Luckily he got out of the way
I have literally seen trainees training and thought to myself what the hell is that? We get propane cars where I work but before that I worked a terminal that got ethanol unit trains and the stuff that I've seen csx do is beyond belief.
At CSX, new hires get 4 weeks in Atlanta then about 3 months OJT. They brought OJT up from only 2 months just a bit ago, which is the step in the right direction, but still isn't good enough IMO. I still don't think that's enough time, especially the terminal I work out of where we are a long pool and the days are longer and we go to over a dozen different places. The longer days means you're probably not rested for a train you needed then you sit at home for an extra day. Do that a few times and you lost 3-4 days working. Also another thing I see ALL THE TIME is an Orange vest training an Orange vest (newly marked up conductor with less than 2 years training a new hire). It's a recipe for disaster. It's sad they are prioritizing marking these new hires up rather than affirming they KNOW how to do the job safely. Quick story. A new hire at my terminal just a couple weeks ago had a small set over to make in a yard. Like 20 cars. When he cut away and cleared the power switch, the lunar light on the switch went away (meaning it's not in remote, or YM control anymore). The new hire thought since the light changed color, it lined for the next track. He had the engineer shove. Engineer got up to 9mph and SLAMMED right back into the track they cut way from. Hit so hard, the headend went into emergency. Somehow, nothing derailed or broke. He got super lucky that day.
See depending on the location. But it up to the trainee also if u need more time then say you need more time. I was at a site yesterday where their OJTbis 6 months. I feel you on the new people training new people thing. But let's not act like every business don't do this the only thing that makes it known is that is easy to Identfity it because of the vest.
Working at csx I've been put on jobs for the first time since marking up and showed up to see that they gave me a trainee, I've had trainees argue over how/where to ride a car in two different cases which is frankly concerning because that is one thing that they did make sure we learned at Atlanta when i went. It's the blind leading the blind in some cases especially as at this time of year a lot of seasoned conductors and engineers are taking vacation, so trainees are stuck with guys freshly marked up until they themselves are marked up. The job really isn't too difficult it's just lethal if you dont know what to look out for. Paying attention to things like different working conditions, watching out for each other etc.
If I was in your shoes I would tell the CT to stay on the engine. Here’s why, if something was to happen it would be you who gets fired. It’s company policy and always do what you have to, to CYA.
@@Railroad_Talk BIGG FACTS no harm to the Trainees but when you come out of school your just book smart. Your real training happens in the field and in field is where you can get seriously HURT. When I hired out (16+ yrs) I was told no matter how many times you heard something act like it’s your first time hearing it. Old heads aren’t so willing to tell you anything if you think you know it all. There was a trainee fresh out of school he worked with 6 different people who all had a problem with him. By the time he got to me and he said something I cut it real short. I said “ I can show you and explain and you can learn or you’re welcome to sit on the motor. But we’re not gonna debate and get one of us hurt out here today. We had no problem and he stayed on the ground. Everyone Stay Safe Out Here.
Imma send this video to my lil brother as he’s training right now with NS. Even when I was on the rails I had a few engineers really jerk the crappy out of me riding shoves. With the scariest case being when I got jerked around on those crappy ones with the thigh high grab irons
If it was stack car they were probably on the platform where they shouldn’t have been. On the side of the car it would have been nearly impossible to fall off in the gauge unless it was a single vertical bar and then you swing around and I can see that happening. I have been on a 40 plus car shove with a stack job and had the slack roll out very hard. I was in the side with proper footing and proper grab irons and it was no big deal. Unfortunately cubs are taught the lazy way to ride.
That is awful and in training that hang test is stupid. I find it better to put the whole arm in so sudden jerk like that do not throw you off the side of the car.
Most trainers dread training new hires. I had such a person when I was training in a yard. A remote operator train they had two remote operators one was training me ant the other was the forman and the trainer had to handle something and didn't need me. I was left with the forman he had me ride a shove a car away and slammed me into two hooks while I was still up and riding. No radio contact to me to dismount or slow the train for me to dismount.
If these certified conductors keep stuff like that up it will just be a matter of time before they started getting called out on their bs. I would crawl up a COs ass if I was a trainmasters and saw that happen and a serious start to go right along with it. Some people aren’t good trainers which is okay. But if they’re going to risk hurting someone because they don’t want to train someone then things can be done to ensure the CO doesn’t get new hires.
No need to be scared but keep in mind you’re the softest thing out there. The rules you’re going to be taught will keep you safe. You’ll do just fine but always keep your head on a swivel.
Bro I'm from Mississippi and as a upcoming conductor in training is driving from Mississippi to Selma AL which is a 2hr drive too much for a daily drive ?
Hey Joey, was wondering if you have stickers of your channel. I'm creating a railroad room in our new home and have made a section for these of TH-camrs I'm subscribed to. Thank for your time. Cheers from Laurel, Delaware
Did this man die because he did not follow the rules? Did he not understand the rules due to inadequate training? Just trying to understand what happened. I am considering becoming a conductor but put off by things like this. People have told me that it is easy to be safe on the railroad if you follow the rules, but is that not true? What got this young man killed?
We will have to wait for report to come out but what people have told you is correct. It’s fairly easy to be safe on the railroad, however it’s extremely easy to become complacent. The rules they have in place of conductor trainees are there for a reason and even though they may seem inconvenient to the conductor most times it’s important to follow them.
@@Railroad_Talk I'm fine with that. If following the rules can save my life, that makes me feel like I am in control of my fate. But if I can't know what the correct rules are due to a bad training program...that is something else. I don't know how to proceed in that case.
@@nuclearpiano2684 thankfully a train can’t jump out from behind a bushes lol but there are freak accidents that happen like anywhere else but for the most part you’re in control but you have to keep your head on a swivel inside the yard cause there are a lot of moving parts. Safety will be drilled pretty hard during training. If you take safety serious like I do you will be just fine.
@@Railroad_Talk So...how are all these new conductors dying then? Sorry, not trying to beat a dead horse, but if it's that easy to be safe, then what happened? I want to make sure it doesn't happen to me, or anyone else I care about. Thanks for responding, BTW, I really appreciate it.
I always tell new guys the way to not die. I couldn't begin to care less what the rule some moron in an office that has no idea what he's talking about came up with. The way they teach to ride tank cars up here is ridiculous too. It positions you perfectly so when the slack runs out you swing in towards the middle of the tracks. If you lose your grip you're getting cut in half. I've had that convo with a few managers. You need to give me a fail you go right ahead, I'm not dying for your no common sense rule.
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It's very situational, and depends on an individual conductor's preference and comfort level. Personally if we're shoving a distance any further than 6 car lengths, I'm riding. Especially if it's a loaded workday.
Hey man I’m in week 1 training and I am just lost. My instructor speaks too fast I don’t get any of the terminology when he speaks. What can I do to try and catch up
I understand about all this about working safety, But I was let go due to working safety and number other things which the trainmaster say I did wrong but yet they wanted me risk my life by over the equipments which the hand brake was off and the equipment couple together on the industry site @railroadtalk can you explain this one for me
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I was in class with Derek. He was an amazing person and was so excited about the upcoming birth of his child. My heart goes out to his family and coworkers. Being new is stressful enough as it is, but losing a friend/classmate made me have some serious doubts about the job. I am certainly blessed to be in a subdivision with really good people and managers, who have all been extremely helpful during my OJT. The accident happened a week before we were scheduled to mark up. Thank you for sharing this story.
Damn...
What an awful shame. If the engineer was using air this probably wouldn't have happened. There is a huge difference in how cars react on a shove with and without air. They should teach that to conductors in school. I hated engineers that didn't use air on a shove. Prayers for his family. 🙏🙏🙏
I've almost fallen off and onto the rails on a rainy night. First time working the yard and actually riding cars. Was never shown how to ride certain cars. Everything as far as training was rushed. CP Rail is the worst.
Sounds a lot like NS.. completely unacceptable on the carriers part.
You guys should try the CN!! The trainee's leading the trainee's is ridiculous.
I got my 30 in and I'm out now but it has not gotten any better for any class 1's training regiment.
Being 28 myself and a new father of 7 months this hits a little hard and close may he rest in peace and may his family be taken care of in every way prayers for all involved.
We handed off a train in Roseville California to go over donner pass to sparks Nevada on UP, The engineer who was working that trip is a friend of mine just shook his head when his conductor and conductor trainee walked out of the building BOTH wearing Orange new hire hats. One had been there 5 month the other 5 weeks. Lucky they had a tesla train with no work enroute. I did spend 5 minutes talking to both of them about being safe. I remember i was in their shoes 19 years ago. Keep these vids coming and prayers to the family of the young man killed in Baltimore.
Good to see you sir. When and where possible, I always walked my shove. I just felt the most comfortable doing it that way. May God bless and comfort his family.
This last few terms of trainees have been trained by “trainees”. I tell all my conductors to WALK!!
This hits home. I walked away from NS in Baltimore MD for the reason you stated kept pairing me up with conductors
with less than a year experience. Cannot learn the job from just riding the locomotive. Plus a terminal manager with no integrity.
I work in Brunswick, Md and I feel back for a lot of the guys from Richmond who are clueless about our yard, which they are supposed to be qualified at. I go out and assist them so they don’t get hurt or get in trouble for tearing something up!!
This is so sad to hear Joey! A young man's life cut short doing I'm sure his dream job. I'm like you SAFETY Is my 1st PRIORITY no matter what. I'm not cutting corners for NOBODY to jeopardize my life or anyone of my co- worker's point blank! I retired from UPS after 28years with a top safety award for ZERO accidents etc during my time there! Thanks again Joey for great videos etc! Cheers from Laurel, Delaware
I saw you comment earlier about stickers Shawn! Sorry I didn’t reply I was at my Friends daughters birthday party. I temporarily took my store down cause I will be putting my cnc work on there just to keep the cost down and not paying for 2 different stores. Shoot me an email I’ll see if I can something out to you. Railroadtalk@gmail.com
This is sad the young man that lost his life was in the class in front of me my teacher was the one who graduated him he told us about this story which I may add my teacher was the best real stand up guy and he always talk to us about safety the guy that pass also had a baby on the way that he didn’t get to see I mark up in a couple weeks and everyday I keep that in mind that’s why I watch videos like this to learn anything I can because they tell us only way to learn is when you get out their yourself but every bit helps if you ask me
I was knocked off a cut of about 70 empty coal hoppers. Talking on the radio and holding on with one hand. The engineer used the independent brake to stop.
Very common. This is going to be my next video on how to know if the engineer is using air or only the independent. Dangerous if you’re not prepared.
Glad you didn't get run over, I had the same thing, cause of the wind I didn't hear the slack coming, bruised the hell out of the inside of my arm. I keyed the mike and just said "OOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW." Then I got off and walked the engineer all the way back the 35ish cars to the switch we needed. I never forgot that. I use air and shove/pull whenever possible and if I can't I tell the cndr it'll be rough or to walk.
@@2kanchoo I agree. I was thrown along side the rail into the ballast. Thinking back on it. We road guys would get Engineers off the extra board once in a while. They were used to working yard jobs. No air, unless they were transfers. The good thing now days. Crew members have an opportunity to work more than one craft. My Son is an Engineer he say's it helped.
The ends of these well cars usually have very generous end platforms... you could sit on those.
The time trainees are given to learn their territory has been significantly cut back in the last year. Guys that hired in 2021 spent 4 months OJT where I am in WV. Anyone they have hired since summer of last year gets 4-6 weeks tops.
I have heard a trainmaster say to new hires "You only need 1 round trip to be qualified" numerous times. Then you get those newly marked up conductors who in all honestly, and to no fault of their own, have no clue wtf they are doing / what is going on, training more new hires. It's a vicious cycle that I have brought up in every union meeting (BLE) in the past year, and it is creating a major recipe for disaster.
This is 1000% the companies faults and if we all band together, from the new folks all the way up to the veterans, we can stop these shit bags from hiring people just to kill them.
Got a bulletin for that. Final week of sims then otj for final month.
Stay safe
Thanks for sharing this my friend
I’m getting ready to go to McDonough. My first couple years will probably consist of trying not to get killed. That’s if I pass the training.😊
Awful story Thankyou for sharing…
💯 the company’s fault inter models aren’t meant to be rode this way either are tank cars, they want you to ride like this because your lower to the ground, however this puts you on a hinge so if there is run in or out it automatically shifts your weight on a hinge and places you in harms way. Hopefully the family can survive a lawsuit and sue the 💩 out of this company it’s inexcusable. I brand this up in a safety meeting and they said we used to ride up high (like on a grain car) but didn’t care someone could die.
I hear the pain in your voice, thanks for sharing your thoughts and advice. This is alarming but could have been prevented with the right training as you mentioned. I just applied to be a conductor and waiting to hear back from the company.
I learned a lot in your videos. i have my interview next week CN canada. hoping i will pass and become a conductor. thank's.
That’s awesome! Good luck! Glad you have found some value in the videos.
Big orange almost killed a student a couple months ago. He was on a conventional job on the west end working in between and a RCO job on the east end started pulling east. Luckily he got out of the way
I have literally seen trainees training and thought to myself what the hell is that? We get propane cars where I work but before that I worked a terminal that got ethanol unit trains and the stuff that I've seen csx do is beyond belief.
CSX sucks
At CSX, new hires get 4 weeks in Atlanta then about 3 months OJT. They brought OJT up from only 2 months just a bit ago, which is the step in the right direction, but still isn't good enough IMO. I still don't think that's enough time, especially the terminal I work out of where we are a long pool and the days are longer and we go to over a dozen different places. The longer days means you're probably not rested for a train you needed then you sit at home for an extra day. Do that a few times and you lost 3-4 days working.
Also another thing I see ALL THE TIME is an Orange vest training an Orange vest (newly marked up conductor with less than 2 years training a new hire). It's a recipe for disaster.
It's sad they are prioritizing marking these new hires up rather than affirming they KNOW how to do the job safely.
Quick story. A new hire at my terminal just a couple weeks ago had a small set over to make in a yard. Like 20 cars. When he cut away and cleared the power switch, the lunar light on the switch went away (meaning it's not in remote, or YM control anymore). The new hire thought since the light changed color, it lined for the next track. He had the engineer shove. Engineer got up to 9mph and SLAMMED right back into the track they cut way from. Hit so hard, the headend went into emergency. Somehow, nothing derailed or broke. He got super lucky that day.
See depending on the location. But it up to the trainee also if u need more time then say you need more time. I was at a site yesterday where their OJTbis 6 months. I feel you on the new people training new people thing. But let's not act like every business don't do this the only thing that makes it known is that is easy to Identfity it because of the vest.
I respect you point of veiw
Working at csx I've been put on jobs for the first time since marking up and showed up to see that they gave me a trainee, I've had trainees argue over how/where to ride a car in two different cases which is frankly concerning because that is one thing that they did make sure we learned at Atlanta when i went. It's the blind leading the blind in some cases especially as at this time of year a lot of seasoned conductors and engineers are taking vacation, so trainees are stuck with guys freshly marked up until they themselves are marked up. The job really isn't too difficult it's just lethal if you dont know what to look out for. Paying attention to things like different working conditions, watching out for each other etc.
If I was in your shoes I would tell the CT to stay on the engine. Here’s why, if something was to happen it would be you who gets fired. It’s company policy and always do what you have to, to CYA.
@@Railroad_Talk BIGG FACTS no harm to the Trainees but when you come out of school your just book smart. Your real training happens in the field and in field is where you can get seriously HURT. When I hired out (16+ yrs) I was told no matter how many times you heard something act like it’s your first time hearing it. Old heads aren’t so willing to tell you anything if you think you know it all. There was a trainee fresh out of school he worked with 6 different people who all had a problem with him. By the time he got to me and he said something I cut it real short. I said “ I can show you and explain and you can learn or you’re welcome to sit on the motor. But we’re not gonna debate and get one of us hurt out here today. We had no problem and he stayed on the ground. Everyone Stay Safe Out Here.
Imma send this video to my lil brother as he’s training right now with NS. Even when I was on the rails I had a few engineers really jerk the crappy out of me riding shoves. With the scariest case being when I got jerked around on those crappy ones with the thigh high grab irons
Oh yeah gondolas i bet. I hate them. When I’m doubt, walk
Great video safety first
watching orange vest train orange vest scares the fuck out of me.
There needs to be an FRA law stopping this from happening.
Yeah we got the serious incident notice pinned up on the bored. Very sad thing.
They’re teaching us about this in training. There’s another death they’re teaching us about also.
If it was stack car they were probably on the platform where they shouldn’t have been. On the side of the car it would have been nearly impossible to fall off in the gauge unless it was a single vertical bar and then you swing around and I can see that happening. I have been on a 40 plus car shove with a stack job and had the slack roll out very hard. I was in the side with proper footing and proper grab irons and it was no big deal. Unfortunately cubs are taught the lazy way to ride.
That is awful and in training that hang test is stupid. I find it better to put the whole arm in so sudden jerk like that do not throw you off the side of the car.
Most trainers dread training new hires. I had such a person when I was training in a yard. A remote operator train they had two remote operators one was training me ant the other was the forman and the trainer had to handle something and didn't need me. I was left with the forman he had me ride a shove a car away and slammed me into two hooks while I was still up and riding. No radio contact to me to dismount or slow the train for me to dismount.
If these certified conductors keep stuff like that up it will just be a matter of time before they started getting called out on their bs. I would crawl up a COs ass if I was a trainmasters and saw that happen and a serious start to go right along with it.
Some people aren’t good trainers which is okay. But if they’re going to risk hurting someone because they don’t want to train someone then things can be done to ensure the CO doesn’t get new hires.
I’m glad I went to work for Toyota, so I wouldn’t have to work for the railroad.
Wow I got training in a few weeks this a little scary to see
No need to be scared but keep in mind you’re the softest thing out there. The rules you’re going to be taught will keep you safe. You’ll do just fine but always keep your head on a swivel.
Same. Aug 7th start. Head on a swivel, copy! And thank you.
Bro I'm from Mississippi and as a upcoming conductor in training is driving from Mississippi to Selma AL which is a 2hr drive too much for a daily drive ?
I was originally told this was a remote control move.
Could have definitely been the case. We had RCO in our pig train yards also.
Hey Joey, was wondering if you have stickers of your channel. I'm creating a railroad room in our new home and have made a section for these of TH-camrs I'm subscribed to. Thank for your time. Cheers from Laurel, Delaware
There was another accident in Chicago with a 24yr old like 2 days ago
Man this is crazy
Did this man die because he did not follow the rules? Did he not understand the rules due to inadequate training? Just trying to understand what happened. I am considering becoming a conductor but put off by things like this. People have told me that it is easy to be safe on the railroad if you follow the rules, but is that not true? What got this young man killed?
We will have to wait for report to come out but what people have told you is correct. It’s fairly easy to be safe on the railroad, however it’s extremely easy to become complacent. The rules they have in place of conductor trainees are there for a reason and even though they may seem inconvenient to the conductor most times it’s important to follow them.
@@Railroad_Talk I'm fine with that. If following the rules can save my life, that makes me feel like I am in control of my fate. But if I can't know what the correct rules are due to a bad training program...that is something else. I don't know how to proceed in that case.
@@nuclearpiano2684 thankfully a train can’t jump out from behind a bushes lol but there are freak accidents that happen like anywhere else but for the most part you’re in control but you have to keep your head on a swivel inside the yard cause there are a lot of moving parts. Safety will be drilled pretty hard during training. If you take safety serious like I do you will be just fine.
@@Railroad_Talk So...how are all these new conductors dying then? Sorry, not trying to beat a dead horse, but if it's that easy to be safe, then what happened? I want to make sure it doesn't happen to me, or anyone else I care about. Thanks for responding, BTW, I really appreciate it.
@@nuclearpiano2684 rushing the training process and qualifying new conductors that aren’t ready to be qualified.
FNBS has the best training program. I don't have nothing else nice to say about them.
more railroad neglect not effective training nor man power leads to these incidents
I always tell new guys the way to not die. I couldn't begin to care less what the rule some moron in an office that has no idea what he's talking about came up with. The way they teach to ride tank cars up here is ridiculous too. It positions you perfectly so when the slack runs out you swing in towards the middle of the tracks. If you lose your grip you're getting cut in half. I've had that convo with a few managers. You need to give me a fail you go right ahead, I'm not dying for your no common sense rule.
“World Socialist Web Site”?? That’s odd…lol
Very lol.
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Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
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For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Romans 10:9-10
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
John 3:18
“He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Psalm 14:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
F off with the religious BS!
'Promo SM'
whats the motive for riding shoves anyway? to be faster ? Is it even an option to walk because i would always do that or would the company get pissed?
It's very situational, and depends on an individual conductor's preference and comfort level. Personally if we're shoving a distance any further than 6 car lengths, I'm riding. Especially if it's a loaded workday.
Hey man I’m in week 1 training and I am just lost. My instructor speaks too fast I don’t get any of the terminology when he speaks. What can I do to try and catch up
I understand about all this about working safety, But I was let go due to working safety and number other things which the trainmaster say I did wrong but yet they wanted me risk my life by over the equipments which the hand brake was off and the equipment couple together on the industry site @railroadtalk can you explain this one for me