I was totally thinking the same thing. Like, cursing does not in and of itself make an argument logically fallacious, but using it ad-hominem style as this guy was....need I say more?
The Holy Sprit will give you your wish because it is also Gods wish. To have love one towards another. If you put your Faith in Jesus and accept his gift of paying for 100% of your sins you will receive the same power that raised Christ from the dead. Thats the Holy Spirit and with Him all things will be possible
Heres the thing… the way religious people talk someone’s triggers atheists 😂 They like to bring up random view points all the time The kid wasn’t talking about sex or women.. but the preacher brought it into the conversation When the kid was saying “f*ck” he was using it as an adjective not a verb It’s like saying “oh my goodness!!” … People use the f word as a way of expressing frustration
@@luissantos1801you act like the dude, didn't just do that to himself, religious or not, one thing you never wanna do in a debate is lose your cool, a lot of times Aethists do that to themselves because they don't wanna accept the fact that they might be wrong in what they believe in, Aethists are some of the most closed minded people in world, because they believe their values come from themselves, it takes a certain amount of close mindedness to believe that
"Atheism killed?!? Hahahah!" Literally 30 seconds later "I'm gonna fight any mfer that is a counter revolutionary!" Then starts saying how whoever doesn't agree with him is a liar and such just like a brown shirt rofl
That's exactly what the German brown shirts and Italian black shirts did in order to force their position and gain power in their respective countries. Oh, how history rhymes.
Yet the dude spewed lies to counter it, what those two did wasn't based off Atheism, it was based off Communism, so flat out lie. Just because they were Atheist had nothing to do with it, unlike a certain church who wanted to control Europe in the medieval ages and went on a rampage of wiping out pagan countries just because they didn't believe in the same thing, oh right, and they stated that it was done because their deity told them to do it. Though the college student does go a very wrong way about debating this.
@@RipvanwinkleLughlamfadadulahan Hitler was an Atheist but the Germans that fought for him were Christian and hitler didn't kill because he's an Atheist you idiot he killed because he hated jews not because he lacked the belief in god
It has to be absolutely exhausting to live like that guy. Just going throughout life constantly playing the victim and when something doesn’t go your way it’s just more and more “oh well it’s because I’m this”
@@s0rkage967 People can't differentiate fiction from reality. Not just in life, even in media. Actor that plays King Joffrey (Game of Thrones) got death threats and got things thrown at him because of that role.
i would bet that he's a big fan of Rage Against The Machine, The Clash, and another lesser known band called Prairie Fire, and probably Herbert Marcuse, Antonio Grammaci, Saul Alinsky, and Abbie Hoffman. At least that's what I hear in his rhetoric. It's all been said before. Confucius say "Big wind come from empty cave"
The problem is that there are too many people worrying about a materialistic world rather than humbling themselves before Almighty God and seeking forgiveness. Seek Christ and let him sort the problems of the world. In actuality it's His world.
@@proodjjuice-hz5snfor example, he never pointed out that it is we humans…individually…who determine our moral path. That is a key point of moral reality He’s very emotional. Not intellectually sound And what is he doing about homelessness? He criticizes things that he himself is guilty of.
I noticed this too and wondered if anyone else did. I pray for that and that the veil is lifted from his eyes so he can experience the truth of the one and only living God.
Why is this young man so angry? I'm an atheist myself, but holy crap this kid needs to take a breath. All this anger isn't healthy, especially for someone so young. I'm not a conservative myself and I disagree with conservatives on just about a thousand and one things but his completely unhinged naive rant are not the words of an informed or educated individual who wants to debate or educate but the words of a self-righteous deluded angry young man with little to no world experience who is simply looking for a fight.
This is the kind of guy that Castro and Mao would hand out the AKs to, say "Go get 'em," and when they outlive their usefulness it's time once again for the night of the long knives. Lenin called them "willing dupes and useful idiots". this is the type that the tyrants will use and then liquidate once they get into power. Che Guevarra and Leon Trotsky also come to mind. How much you wanna bet this guy owns at least one Che Guevarra T shirt?
A follower of God here. I appreciate you, I know not all atheists are the same, but this dude is nuts, I can see how atheists may look at us believers that are also nuts sometimes Much love bro
Even as an atheist myself I can see the dude was just basing off his whole argumentation based on emotion. He literally was using an emotional fallacy for his whole part of the debate.
Living like that is so tiring, especially thinking people are gonna kill him and his family out of no where. Pray for this young man, may the Lord open his eyes one day through someone.
The regurgitation of Marxist talking points, the searing rage, the moral virtue signaling, and the inability to reason totally betray this guys superiority complex.
He's King, Creator, and Saviour. One day when the sky rolls back like a scroll, every tongue will confess and every knee shall bend. And EVERY atheist will become a believer.
What is he so mad about?? He should do some self reflection and figure that out. I was raised as a Christian and became an atheist. I finally found my way back to God. And have a lot more peace in my life.
maybe.. i don't know.. the reason might have something to do with you using religion as an escape from the real world suffering that you need to ignore because accepting it is easier than not
I'd say it's quite the opposite. As christians, we can't selfishly ignore the people's suffering. Remember that the hospitals and schooling system come from the initiative of christians following the bible and helping those in need. Nowadays, it seems like people are becoming more and more self centered and don't care about the suffering because they're bombarded with useless information and entertainment to keep them from doing anything of real value.
As an agnostic who's dabbling into believing in god, I respect Cliffe so much because he listens and answers. I don't respect the atheist because he's just yapping without listening to him
i don't know about listens, nor do i know about answers... unless you stretch the definition a little. cliffe never answers with quality answers. he's clever, yes, so he's good at sounding like he can answer things, but naturally he can't answer things with actually good and sound answers without any fallacies or conditional assumptions
@tonyisnotdead I don't know what you're talking about. He completely pulled the rug out from under the emotional kid. He took his political ammo away and brought it to spiritualism and morality which he has no power in disagreeing with. Plus, his unhinged attack on conservatives saying they all want to kill him simply makes him detached from reality and really takes away any trust you have in him to be reasonable and have a good, true point. If your in his camp just say it so, or don't reply at all and sit in defeat.
To all those asking about this kid and why he is so angry I ask you to pay attention to his body language and the fluctuations in his voice. He isn’t angry, he is scared. It is fear that is driving his rant. He has been living in fight or flight mode because of the propaganda coming from the radical left. The things the ladies on The View say are pretty scary sometimes. This child has spent his whole life growing up around people saying these things day in and day out. He is afraid, not angry. This was a rant about his personal feelings because he said that Trump supporters wanted to kill him. He was talking from an emotional perspective not a logical perspective. As a mother, I want to go and hug that young man and tell him that he is loved that Jesus loves him. That God loves him. God is not there to prevent suffering from happening, but to create meaning out of suffering. Good will always triumph over evil, it’s just sometimes it takes time for lessons to be learned. There is always light at the end of the darkest tunnel. This young man needs hope.
My bad habit is wishing pain on people for them to humble themselves. The dude acts like he's the "Big guy" but no one's scared of him. In fact, you can see they're making fun of how trigger hoapy he is. He wishes death to "conservatives", a fellow human and thinks they're out there to kill him and his family. When confronted by his lie, he then backtracks and not accept he's lying. He acts though that he'll take them all on and if he dies, there's 10 more that will come. This is a person that has NOT actually experienced fighting yet.
lets all take a second to realize how STEEL STRONG cliffe's patience is. staying calm and respectful while the goof is yelling, cussing and mocking him.
Wild how often the softest people claim that they’re fighters or are willing to fight. This boy has no idea how dark things can get and what revolution and war can do to the heart/mind of a man. It seems he barely has any understanding in his position to begin with and has romanticized his system of government. I hope that he can become less divisive and gain control of his emotions.
This guy is literally talking about a whole different convo to someone that has nothing to do with that type of conversation lol but cliff is one of the best that proves them wrong all the time lol this guy needs help
lol yeah ….. but in the grand scheme of life and in the sense of emotional maturity he is a child still with much to learn. I sincerely hope he does. Ah crap if I was atheist I could just leave this here but it seems God always wants me to pray for the most annoying 😂❤
The kid is annoying, but not because he is a liberal. Cliffe was less annoying, but not because he isn't a liberal. Perhaps watch the video again and pay more attention to the dialogue that doesn't align with what you agree with.
Liberalism to us outside of the USA is a very different thing lol. Socialism by all accounts everywhere is just uniformly awful. I hope this kid find his way to Christ ❤. He needs prayer not condemnation and when we as Christian’s insult him and praise God in the same sentence we are not acting the way Jesus wants us to.
Cliffe's patience is absolutely stellar. Wow. I'm sorry, I don't usually even comment, but that other guy was only there to fight. He clearly showed he doesn't care what anybody else thinks. It's really quite sad, not that he'd care, of course.
"our value is defined by the common interest of the people" And what happens when those interests misalign is exactly why you get the ruthless dictators Cliffe was talking about. This call to collectivism is honestly disgusting when you look back on just the last century alone. I thought I was gonna get a conversation about whether or not God exists but instead it's just the university stereotype.
this kid is a sociopath, he cant communicate properly, contradicts himself, he yells at everyone, and at 12:55 he addresses the audience, trying to get them on his side, which is a defensive tactic.
It’s wild to think people really go this hard and jus don’t care about how they act at all😂love Cliffe though, bless you all and may the Lord be with you all!❤️❤️
As an atheist, seriously I could hardly get through the first part of this based on the irrational behavior of the non-believer. Calm down people. There is no reason to get worked up like that and whether you are religious or not if you can not see that we humans are all more alike in our nature than not, then you aren’t accepting the most basic truth. In other words, no need to yell at someone like he has some wildly different perspective on life either way. We generally all stop at red lights, and go at green lights, and help each other out, etc…. We just have different beliefs. The irony I saw in the older gentleman’s point was that tying one’s morality to a god who has free agency and a will means that it changes according to that god’s will. A god’s will is, for instance in the Christian religion, considered morally perfect when he commands a genocide and also morally perfect when he commands “though shalt not kill.” And, naturally, tying one’s morality to a consensus is problematic for obvious reasons. The truth is, asking someone what foundation they believe in for their morality is a flawed question in the first place and as none has been discovered it’s really a moot one. There is no absolute foundation for morality that has been discovered, though I respect people’s beliefs that they have found such even if I do not honor that authority myself. That still allows me the agency to say what I believe is right or wrong on my own authority. It doesn’t make it right or wrong, but there is no ultimate right or wrong that I can see. Generally people will follow-this up by saying something like, “so you can not say (insert horrible crime here) is ultimately wrong then.” Yes, in fact I can’t help but believe it is ultimately wrong even if I can also admit/think that there is not ultimately a right or wrong-those are two totally different things. Creating a hypothetical god and deeming that figure as a symbol of authority is a neat philosophical exercise, but it has no more credence to lend to actual authority than anything I might think up as well.
well i did read it all, and yep, thats pretty much it. one big problem that a lot of people, on both sides of this debate, miss is that justice and morality are different. you can believe something is just but maybe not moral. and vice versa. adding any ultimate authority to morality only causes problems. especially when one can agree that god is certainly not moral when he destroys civilizations for simply existing.
A couple points. I agree with the sentiment that it shouldn’t matter what your beliefs are, you should remain civil regardless. Secondly, God have the commandment “You shall not murder.” Which is different from killing, but let me elaborate. There is a difference in indiscriminate killing and justified killing. The taking of a life is a horrible thing but sometimes necessary, whereas a genocide is not. The Lord did not command a genocide. He gives free agency, will, to us as humans so that we may choose our actions and hopefully choose to have a relationship with Him. But Hitler chose what he did and he was put to Justice by God. But anyway, you can’t say that God commands horrible things to happen because it is not in His nature. Allowance is different then an order.
@@Abzero-mx2pbGod certainly is morale and if you read the actual book instead of pointing at it when it convinces you, you’d know that. God does not contradict himself nor does he go back on his word. If you’ve actually read the old/New Testament with a conviction to learn rather than to disprove, which you couldn’t anyway, you’d probably learn a lot. The whole reason God sent Jesus down to Shepard the lost was that not a single human was worthy of entering heaven, he made it so through the new covenant we may enter salvation. Even God had a plan B for us
@@imnolegasy yes he does, I know this because I've read it. If I looked at everything without trying to disprove it. I would never learn anything. That's the difference, you absorb and I am a skeptic.
Cliffe if you see this, SO ADMIRABLE the patience as a virtue modelling speaker. Beautiful, almost like that stranger crowd seemed to be a speaker taken right out of hypocrisy and Pharisee projection. He laughs like there’s proof he keeps losing after.. It seemed like some raw exchanges .. neat. Cliffe the skeleton of faith strengthened by study of the spirit. Cliffe has found “Christ in you, the hope of glory.”
He is confused and is not open minded, and angry because he is scared. When you don’t open your mind to another ones solutions you are intolerant. Therefore you don’t have a free mind and what you have to say means nothing except to your pride and ego.
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When you try to use cursing to win an argument your already in the wrong
I was totally thinking the same thing. Like, cursing does not in and of itself make an argument logically fallacious, but using it ad-hominem style as this guy was....need I say more?
Cursing against the opponent I would like to specify. I tend to use Fck and Sht a lot in my day to day speaking.
When you try to use cursing to win an argument, you've already lost the argument.
@@sar_e_bearif I got into an argument with my GF and showed her evidence of her cheating then cussed her out - you’re saying I lost the argument?
@@velse9869 argument with ur gf is a personal relationship matter of course emotion will always be there, dont compare it to a public debate
Cliffe's patience is legendary. Wow.
I wish i was like him man he doesnt take anything personal
Amen, Glory to God. That’s evidence of the Holy Spirit living in Cliffe
The Holy Sprit will give you your wish because it is also Gods wish. To have love one towards another. If you put your Faith in Jesus and accept his gift of paying for 100% of your sins you will receive the same power that raised Christ from the dead. Thats the Holy Spirit and with Him all things will be possible
I feel bad for this kid, like genuinely i hope he learns tolerance and kindness.
😊7😅
Heres the thing… the way religious people talk someone’s triggers atheists 😂
They like to bring up random view points all the time
The kid wasn’t talking about sex or women.. but the preacher brought it into the conversation
When the kid was saying “f*ck” he was using it as an adjective not a verb
It’s like saying “oh my goodness!!” … People use the f word as a way of expressing frustration
@@luissantos1801you act like the dude, didn't just do that to himself, religious or not, one thing you never wanna do in a debate is lose your cool, a lot of times Aethists do that to themselves because they don't wanna accept the fact that they might be wrong in what they believe in, Aethists are some of the most closed minded people in world, because they believe their values come from themselves, it takes a certain amount of close mindedness to believe that
@@michaelbriseno4741 🫡☝🏽🧐good point
Christians shouldn't swear. So that's why he didn't like that.@@luissantos1801
"Atheism killed?!? Hahahah!"
Literally 30 seconds later "I'm gonna fight any mfer that is a counter revolutionary!" Then starts saying how whoever doesn't agree with him is a liar and such just like a brown shirt rofl
That's exactly what the German brown shirts and Italian black shirts did in order to force their position and gain power in their respective countries. Oh, how history rhymes.
I was just about to say that.
Yet the dude spewed lies to counter it, what those two did wasn't based off Atheism, it was based off Communism, so flat out lie. Just because they were Atheist had nothing to do with it, unlike a certain church who wanted to control Europe in the medieval ages and went on a rampage of wiping out pagan countries just because they didn't believe in the same thing, oh right, and they stated that it was done because their deity told them to do it. Though the college student does go a very wrong way about debating this.
he sounds like hittler himself scary
@@Smijin atheism kills
Pray for him. He's lost.
Imagine if he could use all that energy fighting for God and justice instead of being useless and wanting to harm others he doesn't agree with.
Amen pray for him!! I remember being lost 😢❤
So is everyone else who isn’t christian. All the muslims, jews, ect. You should tell them how their religion is wrong and convert them
When Goliath shouted, David did not fret.
Love your analogy. This kid was all bark no bite.
@@edgecruz4832 chihuahua
A guy like that started ww1
and II
Ww1 was started by an assassination
Ww2 was started by an atheist
Nah he is too stupid. This was the village idiot they used to stone back in the day
@@RipvanwinkleLughlamfadadulahan research about Princip and what type of dude he was
@@RipvanwinkleLughlamfadadulahan Hitler was an Atheist but the Germans that fought for him were Christian and hitler didn't kill because he's an Atheist you idiot he killed because he hated jews not because he lacked the belief in god
It has to be absolutely exhausting to live like that guy. Just going throughout life constantly playing the victim and when something doesn’t go your way it’s just more and more “oh well it’s because I’m this”
They love doing this unfortunately. They get their kick being a "hero" and feeling above other people
This dude talking about punching nazis …all he has ever done is broken windows and call it fighting the system
He left in anger, not even a proper argument from the atheist.
This kid is basically saying: "God doesn't exist and I hate him"
😅
Lol every atheist or at least the teenage and young adult ones who haven't really thought it through
How can you hate someone saying doesn’t he exist 🤦🏽
@@s0rkage967 People can't differentiate fiction from reality. Not just in life, even in media. Actor that plays King Joffrey (Game of Thrones) got death threats and got things thrown at him because of that role.
In the God’s not dead movie final debate scene: the student told the professor, “How can you hate someone that don’t exist?”
Cliffe has amazing patience, god bless him.
What is bro so agnry for? Hes coming at cliff saying "WHAT DO U DO ABOUT ALL THIS EVIL", like bro what do u do😂
I agree
@@GodSoLoved.Yeshuame too and you're a beauty!
Frl tho🤨
Judge not less Yee be Judged
@@semimaster83For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged, and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
This young guy has deep seated anger and is using left wing ideology to mask his own pain.
I hope he comes to find the love of Christ
Once you’ve destroyed their argument all the non Christian has left is emotion and attacks.
The dude was SCREAMING at cliffe but his patience is astonishing
How arrogant of that fool to think that working 9-5 and providing for your kids is a sentence.
This kid loves the sound of his voice.
i would bet that he's a big fan of Rage Against The Machine, The Clash, and another lesser known band called Prairie Fire, and probably Herbert Marcuse, Antonio Grammaci, Saul Alinsky, and Abbie Hoffman.
At least that's what I hear in his rhetoric. It's all been said before.
Confucius say "Big wind come from empty cave"
and he’s the only one that loves his voice 😭
and the F-Bomb lol Cliffe's patience is supernatural
@@jpalberthoward9 Lol this sounds accurate. Like, from a musical standpoint, RATM is fire, but yeah I think he runs their messages into the wrong goal
The problem is that there are too many people worrying about a materialistic world rather than humbling themselves before Almighty God and seeking forgiveness. Seek Christ and let him sort the problems of the world. In actuality it's His world.
This young man is full of hate and anger.
This kid is a clear danger to the public.
An empty vessel makes the loudest noise.
"Why are we talking about respecatabilty politics?"
Then proceeds to scream about how people aren't appreciated and respected.
That young man’s parents failed him 😢
I’m an atheist. This kid is not a good debater. Just emotional, and doesn’t know much of what he’s talking about.
Neither does the preacher
@@thevannmann indeed
@@thevannmanncan you elaborate please?
@@reality1958 Point out why this is exactly
@@proodjjuice-hz5snfor example, he never pointed out that it is we humans…individually…who determine our moral path. That is a key point of moral reality
He’s very emotional. Not intellectually sound
And what is he doing about homelessness? He criticizes things that he himself is guilty of.
Looks at this mans gaze at 6:45. Gotta pray for them demons to leave his vessel in the name of Jesus Christ.
I noticed this too and wondered if anyone else did. I pray for that and that the veil is lifted from his eyes so he can experience the truth of the one and only living God.
Very demonic like expression. Freaked me out a bit.
I noticed that too. If you look closely the girls on the right noticed that and laughed. Kid needs help though.
Chilling
I noticed it too. If you watch his eye looked like they were flashing.
Why is this young man so angry? I'm an atheist myself, but holy crap this kid needs to take a breath. All this anger isn't healthy, especially for someone so young. I'm not a conservative myself and I disagree with conservatives on just about a thousand and one things but his completely unhinged naive rant are not the words of an informed or educated individual who wants to debate or educate but the words of a self-righteous deluded angry young man with little to no world experience who is simply looking for a fight.
This is the kind of guy that Castro and Mao would hand out the AKs to, say "Go get 'em," and when they outlive their usefulness it's time once again for the night of the long knives. Lenin called them "willing dupes and useful idiots". this is the type that the tyrants will use and then liquidate once they get into power. Che Guevarra and Leon Trotsky also come to mind. How much you wanna bet this guy owns at least one Che Guevarra T shirt?
@@jpalberthoward9 i was just thinking the same thing. This kid is a wack a doodle
The atheist view - Billions of years ago an explosion happened and monkeys come out and slowly turned into people...
The calmer you are the more unhinged they become because of where their argument comes from.
He’s one of those people that thinks if you yell enough and say big words then you’ll win the argument
It's some real weirdos on college campuses.
😂😂😂
I can see the evil spirts in his face. He cant hold the demons hes obtained from.this world and has to let it out. There is pure evil in him
He has hardened his heart to the point where a diamond would be considered brittle compared to his heart 😔
I'm an atheist and this kid is totally emotionally off base
A follower of God here. I appreciate you, I know not all atheists are the same, but this dude is nuts, I can see how atheists may look at us believers that are also nuts sometimes
Much love bro
Even as an atheist myself I can see the dude was just basing off his whole argumentation based on emotion. He literally was using an emotional fallacy for his whole part of the debate.
you dont need to mention your an atheist to say what you said
@@jaryssatre6800 but I do.
@@jaryssatre6800thank you lmao took the words right out my mouth
Living like that is so tiring, especially thinking people are gonna kill him and his family out of no where.
Pray for this young man, may the Lord open his eyes one day through someone.
The fear and anger he lives in, Jesus said he will take it away and people lash out like he does over God wanting to help us out.
Can we get a “where is he now” update 😂 kid was unhinged
The Sexy Vegan from Doctor Phil
I was thinking the same thing! 😂
It's the Sexy Vegan from Dr Phil😂
Addicted too drugs, on a rape charge and assault and batter
In Jail for Rape
I watch this a lot to try and learn how to be as patient and control anger as cliff does
The regurgitation of Marxist talking points, the searing rage, the moral virtue signaling, and the inability to reason totally betray this guys superiority complex.
give that dude a hug😭😭😭
He’s definitely on the spectrum emotionally, he doesn’t know how to gauge his emotions
Yeah I picked up on that
He may have Asperger's Syndrome
Christ is king
Nonsense
Jesus Christ, was a carpenter not a king, never was a king.
He's King, Creator, and Saviour. One day when the sky rolls back like a scroll, every tongue will confess and every knee shall bend. And EVERY atheist will become a believer.
@@radaroperator6047 Amen.
What is Christ, never heard of it.
Kid lost.
Fr
That boy should never be trusted with power or women. Talk about lack of emotional control
He’s probably gay tbh
What is he so mad about?? He should do some self reflection and figure that out. I was raised as a Christian and became an atheist. I finally found my way back to God. And have a lot more peace in my life.
maybe.. i don't know.. the reason might have something to do with you using religion as an escape from the real world suffering that you need to ignore because accepting it is easier than not
I'd say it's quite the opposite. As christians, we can't selfishly ignore the people's suffering. Remember that the hospitals and schooling system come from the initiative of christians following the bible and helping those in need. Nowadays, it seems like people are becoming more and more self centered and don't care about the suffering because they're bombarded with useless information and entertainment to keep them from doing anything of real value.
@@tonyisnotdeadare you the guy in the video? Hahhaha
Be careful not to be around people like this, really disturbing how angry he got and the vile things that came out of his mouth.
This kid has mental issues. Straight up. Pray for him.
That child was possessed by idealism😢
This guy will be humbled
As an agnostic who's dabbling into believing in god, I respect Cliffe so much because he listens and answers. I don't respect the atheist because he's just yapping without listening to him
i don't know about listens, nor do i know about answers... unless you stretch the definition a little. cliffe never answers with quality answers. he's clever, yes, so he's good at sounding like he can answer things, but naturally he can't answer things with actually good and sound answers without any fallacies or conditional assumptions
@tonyisnotdead I don't know what you're talking about. He completely pulled the rug out from under the emotional kid. He took his political ammo away and brought it to spiritualism and morality which he has no power in disagreeing with. Plus, his unhinged attack on conservatives saying they all want to kill him simply makes him detached from reality and really takes away any trust you have in him to be reasonable and have a good, true point. If your in his camp just say it so, or don't reply at all and sit in defeat.
I find it really telling how he only got angrier over time during the debate.
Without Christ, life is meaningless.
God bless this guy. I pray he finds his way to Christ
Cliffe is extraordinarily patient
Cliff stays so calm whilst this guys shouting and cursing is a bit grating. I commend his patience.
I feel sorry for cliff in this convo. This guy is a freaking space cadet. Certified
To all those asking about this kid and why he is so angry I ask you to pay attention to his body language and the fluctuations in his voice. He isn’t angry, he is scared. It is fear that is driving his rant. He has been living in fight or flight mode because of the propaganda coming from the radical left. The things the ladies on The View say are pretty scary sometimes. This child has spent his whole life growing up around people saying these things day in and day out. He is afraid, not angry. This was a rant about his personal feelings because he said that Trump supporters wanted to kill him. He was talking from an emotional perspective not a logical perspective. As a mother, I want to go and hug that young man and tell him that he is loved that Jesus loves him. That God loves him. God is not there to prevent suffering from happening, but to create meaning out of suffering. Good will always triumph over evil, it’s just sometimes it takes time for lessons to be learned. There is always light at the end of the darkest tunnel. This young man needs hope.
Yay that propaganda really got to him and it’s frightening
That demon was manifesting himself in that kid
This kid is so unhinged.
You can see it in his face at 6:43.
My bad habit is wishing pain on people for them to humble themselves.
The dude acts like he's the "Big guy" but no one's scared of him. In fact, you can see they're making fun of how trigger hoapy he is. He wishes death to "conservatives", a fellow human and thinks they're out there to kill him and his family. When confronted by his lie, he then backtracks and not accept he's lying.
He acts though that he'll take them all on and if he dies, there's 10 more that will come.
This is a person that has NOT actually experienced fighting yet.
lets all take a second to realize how STEEL STRONG cliffe's patience is. staying calm and respectful while the goof is yelling, cussing and mocking him.
Wild how often the softest people claim that they’re fighters or are willing to fight. This boy has no idea how dark things can get and what revolution and war can do to the heart/mind of a man. It seems he barely has any understanding in his position to begin with and has romanticized his system of government. I hope that he can become less divisive and gain control of his emotions.
This guy is literally talking about a whole different convo to someone that has nothing to do with that type of conversation lol but cliff is one of the best that proves them wrong all the time lol this guy needs help
Exactly. He saw that his point was defeated and he started yelling and asking a bunch of irrelevant questions
How are yall gonna call this a kid? This is a grown ass man throwing a tantrum lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣
lol yeah ….. but in the grand scheme of life and in the sense of emotional maturity he is a child still with much to learn. I sincerely hope he does. Ah crap if I was atheist I could just leave this here but it seems God always wants me to pray for the most annoying 😂❤
Typical liberal. Womp womp. Cry me a river. CHRIST IS KING! GOD IS GREAT! 😎❤️🌠🙏
The kid is annoying, but not because he is a liberal. Cliffe was less annoying, but not because he isn't a liberal. Perhaps watch the video again and pay more attention to the dialogue that doesn't align with what you agree with.
Liberalism and socialism aren't the same thing
Liberalism to us outside of the USA is a very different thing lol. Socialism by all accounts everywhere is just uniformly awful. I hope this kid find his way to Christ ❤. He needs prayer not condemnation and when we as Christian’s insult him and praise God in the same sentence we are not acting the way Jesus wants us to.
Cliffe's patience is absolutely stellar. Wow. I'm sorry, I don't usually even comment, but that other guy was only there to fight. He clearly showed he doesn't care what anybody else thinks. It's really quite sad, not that he'd care, of course.
Cruel kid from toy story makes it to college.
"our value is defined by the common interest of the people"
And what happens when those interests misalign is exactly why you get the ruthless dictators Cliffe was talking about. This call to collectivism is honestly disgusting when you look back on just the last century alone.
I thought I was gonna get a conversation about whether or not God exists but instead it's just the university stereotype.
I picked up on that
He’s letting his emotions get to him when cliff is speaking. He gets more and more angry when he hears cliffs speak 😂😂
I feel like bro thinks his chances of “winning” will go up if he gets louder, angrier, and more vulgar. Man Cliffe has patience…
It is extremely sad to see folks like this.
wait… so he took cliff’s explanation of the F word as a insult to call him a women hater?! … jeeez
Kids talking about about nazis like as if the third reich is marching down the streets asking for paper work 😂😂😂
Dude needs to ease up on the coffee
😂😂👍
He needs to take a chill pill and stop being so emotionally immature
@@johnhuggins1394 exactly, i feel like he was expecting the crowd to cheer him on 🤣
‘Men Have Forgotten God’: Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s 1983 Templeton Address
Great job Cliffe on being patient with the angry student! God bless you and all of your work sir! God Bless!
Hes never been punched in the face before and it shows
So mad. So angry...Damn that rap music
Bro thinks he’s captain America
No .....Bro is more like John Walker, Captain America/ US agent
"YOU CAN KILL ME, THEYLL BE 10 MORE IN MY PLACE!"
bro... you're really not that important lol 😅
this kid is a sociopath, he cant communicate properly, contradicts himself, he yells at everyone, and at 12:55 he addresses the audience, trying to get them on his side, which is a defensive tactic.
I think this generation is lacking something legitimate to fight for…..
Bro thinks he's him, got the shadow the hedge hog stance
The programming of these children is startling.
all evil will flee before jesus christ
I’m from Europe, is it normal to scream and to rant all the time in America? 😅 Christ is King!
as a American maybe it is normal. LOL
No
No, I’m American and I’m sitting here with really wide eyes lol. I can’t believe this kid, he’s unhinged
We are much more reserved in the UK
It didn't used to be. We were taught to respect our elders, and others. Unfortunately, this seems to be the new normal for many in his age group.
This person is so angry. So angry.
It’s wild to think people really go this hard and jus don’t care about how they act at all😂love Cliffe though, bless you all and may the Lord be with you all!❤️❤️
The guy needs a hug man!
I never wanted to tell someone so badly you need Jesus but, this guy really needs Jesus.
I hope this guy finds Jesus one day.
Fella thought he was everyone's protagonist.
If I was in that debate, I need to pray to God, to give me patience😂
Why is the atheist guy a cartoon villain
As an atheist, seriously I could hardly get through the first part of this based on the irrational behavior of the non-believer. Calm down people. There is no reason to get worked up like that and whether you are religious or not if you can not see that we humans are all more alike in our nature than not, then you aren’t accepting the most basic truth. In other words, no need to yell at someone like he has some wildly different perspective on life either way. We generally all stop at red lights, and go at green lights, and help each other out, etc…. We just have different beliefs. The irony I saw in the older gentleman’s point was that tying one’s morality to a god who has free agency and a will means that it changes according to that god’s will. A god’s will is, for instance in the Christian religion, considered morally perfect when he commands a genocide and also morally perfect when he commands “though shalt not kill.” And, naturally, tying one’s morality to a consensus is problematic for obvious reasons. The truth is, asking someone what foundation they believe in for their morality is a flawed question in the first place and as none has been discovered it’s really a moot one. There is no absolute foundation for morality that has been discovered, though I respect people’s beliefs that they have found such even if I do not honor that authority myself. That still allows me the agency to say what I believe is right or wrong on my own authority. It doesn’t make it right or wrong, but there is no ultimate right or wrong that I can see. Generally people will follow-this up by saying something like, “so you can not say (insert horrible crime here) is ultimately wrong then.” Yes, in fact I can’t help but believe it is ultimately wrong even if I can also admit/think that there is not ultimately a right or wrong-those are two totally different things. Creating a hypothetical god and deeming that figure as a symbol of authority is a neat philosophical exercise, but it has no more credence to lend to actual authority than anything I might think up as well.
I ain’t reading all that
well i did read it all, and yep, thats pretty much it. one big problem that a lot of people, on both sides of this debate, miss is that justice and morality are different. you can believe something is just but maybe not moral. and vice versa. adding any ultimate authority to morality only causes problems. especially when one can agree that god is certainly not moral when he destroys civilizations for simply existing.
A couple points. I agree with the sentiment that it shouldn’t matter what your beliefs are, you should remain civil regardless. Secondly, God have the commandment “You shall not murder.” Which is different from killing, but let me elaborate. There is a difference in indiscriminate killing and justified killing. The taking of a life is a horrible thing but sometimes necessary, whereas a genocide is not. The Lord did not command a genocide. He gives free agency, will, to us as humans so that we may choose our actions and hopefully choose to have a relationship with Him. But Hitler chose what he did and he was put to Justice by God.
But anyway, you can’t say that God commands horrible things to happen because it is not in His nature. Allowance is different then an order.
@@Abzero-mx2pbGod certainly is morale and if you read the actual book instead of pointing at it when it convinces you, you’d know that. God does not contradict himself nor does he go back on his word. If you’ve actually read the old/New Testament with a conviction to learn rather than to disprove, which you couldn’t anyway, you’d probably learn a lot. The whole reason God sent Jesus down to Shepard the lost was that not a single human was worthy of entering heaven, he made it so through the new covenant we may enter salvation. Even God had a plan B for us
@@imnolegasy yes he does, I know this because I've read it. If I looked at everything without trying to disprove it. I would never learn anything. That's the difference, you absorb and I am a skeptic.
Cliffe if you see this, SO ADMIRABLE the patience as a virtue modelling speaker. Beautiful, almost like that stranger crowd seemed to be a speaker taken right out of hypocrisy and Pharisee projection. He laughs like there’s proof he keeps losing after..
It seemed like some raw exchanges .. neat.
Cliffe the skeleton of faith strengthened by study of the spirit.
Cliffe has found “Christ in you, the hope of glory.”
I wonder if this kid walks around ppl, who are not as tolerant as Cliff. He is in no shape for any fight
I wonder how many crowns and how beautiful Mr. Cliffe’s room is in heaven.
My goals in life are to have as much patience and cool as Cliffe does
Why is that child having such a long temper tantrum?
This child needs Jesus
He is confused and is not open minded, and angry because he is scared. When you don’t open your mind to another ones solutions you are intolerant. Therefore you don’t have a free mind and what you have to say means nothing except to your pride and ego.
He's lost.. Or maybe something happens in his life.. We might not know.. Pray for him, he lost touch.