As a Christian with parents who are pastors, I know a lot of big church organizations and I can tell you first hand that a lot of them either care only about money or using the church for political purposes.
“Our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, any more than our opinions in physics or geometry.” - Thomas Jefferson, A Bill for Establishing Religious Freedom (1779)
What many people don't understand about Roe v. Wade is that the ruling was over whether women had the right to privacy when it comes to medical procedures or not. Privacy was the main point of the debate. Those who don't believe in privacy were on one side and those who believed in privacy were on the other. Therefore when extrapolated, Pro-life is actually anti-privacy rights. Pro-choice ends up being people who are for women's rights to privacy when it comes to their vaginas. Republicans want to violate the privacy of women's vaginas. Those sick perverts!
The show's delivery of its POV is like a bullet through the brain. It is direct and perfectly crafted. Even if I wasn't sympathetic to those views already, I'd have to give the show credit for its powerful style. Kudos to you and your team, Ms B. And giving us the full Schaeffer interview is the icing.
Sale M you are exactly correct, we can do whatever we want. And if having to dumb down oneself so that some weak man can feel strong, then who needs him anyway. Strong woman need a strong partner, not someone who has to be coddled like a child.
Listen cutey the strong alfa males dont want the so caled alfa experiensed women they want the traditional women, by going down that rode youll end up with a beta male or alone(women think things work how they imagine im a man i know how men think the strong woman so called wants a strong man all women want strong men, but the so called strong women are more emotional and irational and men that have some brain dont want those kind of women), good luck, alfa and alfa dont mix.Women think big of them self, women belive that men are suposed to spend money on them just because women are keeping them company, (acting like children) If women didnt need to be treated like children they would actualy be equal,(women didnt earn there right they were given and still dont deserve them, women will wote for criminal Hilary just because shs a woman O.o) a feminist said it her self a real feminist, men are supirior to women.If humankind was led by women we would be still living in caves.
Sale M well I see you have a lot to say about this issue. Not a lot of substantial things but a lot to say. It is your opinion what a man wants. You can tell me what you want, not what all men want. You don't speak for all men, and I am glad of that. You also went out on a limb to tell me about strong women. So you are an expert on men and women? Not sure how you can explain that one, but in any case you are incorrect again. You don't speak for all women. One thing I can tell you, sweetie, you may want to stop speaking in such general terms. I am not emotional or irrational, nor any of the bright, articulate, accomplished women I know. As far as men being attracted to this type of woman, no problems there either. Now it seems like you have reveal some things about yourself based on what you said, " women believe that men are supposed to spend money on them just because women are keep them company " These are the type of women you happen to be dealing with, and they are in no way a feminist. Feminist are always prepared to pay there own way. And prior to this statement you were right up to the line, but this one put you completely over it, " women didn't earn their right they were given and still don't deserve them". " men are superior to women" " if mankind were led by women we would still be living in caves" I quoted you up to a point, I corrected the spelling and grammatical errors. Ok those quotes tell me that you may just have a issue with women in general. It isn't that men are superior, it's that you think you are superior to women. WOW, I bet you are a fun date. SMH. It is 2016, relationships don't require a tug of war, or a title for power. They can be equal, heck they should be equal. Women have done nothing but fight for their rights in every way to be equal. Nothing was given without hard work and there is still bias. I am not sure about your household as a child, but you should go back and think about all your mother had on her plate back then and how she handled it and tell me you still think women couldn't lead.
i dont know how all men think, yeah and you dont know that all or 99% of women crave bad boys, a man doesent know men well enought as a woman, yeah i have never been penetrated or dominated, women want that not equality.Women are not born to lead as men are not born to give burth to children.It has been proven by science. 50 Shades 100,000,000, copies sold world wide in a mathere of days or maybe in first day.this conversation is over.
Sale M funny I don't recall saying anything about women wanting a bad boy. I also don't recall saying the other stuff you threw in there, I guess you were making a reference to the book 50 shades of gray. Either way, you don't get to decide who leads and who follows. It's not up to you. And you can end this conversation anytime you want, but remember you commented on my thread. I must say, I think I struck a nerve from before. Oh well, sometimes it doesn't pay to comment on every post you read.
+Joey Peles this is a satirical show and doesn't purport to be news. fox news spouts one sided, poorly researched opinion as fact. that's probably more divisive, especially since more people watch it.
David Wu You are correct about FoxNews. They are doing Opinion of News as News broadcasts instead of Reporting Facts about News as News broadcasts. It's too bad that it's viewers don't understand the difference....and it is a shame that the other 24-hour cable newscasts are also doing news shows where the topic is "the opinion of news stories as news". Serious News viewers are going to have to start READING again.....Newspapers still hire actual news reporters and news investigators as news writers.
My philosophy, you can be against abortion as long as you are willing to fork over the tax dollars to help pay for all those extra kids. Just remember that 40% of all US births are payed by Medicaid and the old line about welfare queens doesn't apply to pregnancies that would have been terminated if not for the government.
Actually, Abortion is found in the bible, but it is only if the men want to do it to women. As per usual with the bible, women don't get a say. "And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people." Numbers 5:27 So Abortion is legal according to the bible, as long as it is against the will of the woman it is being performed on. Anyone who thinks the bible is good, is sick in the head.
+tommaspawn Christians are against abortions because they makeup whatever fads they want to believe in. Its ok to wear makeup and wear clothes of mixed fabric eat shrimp etc but when it comes to something god (aka the MEN who wrote the bible not god) didn't specifically state you put words in their mouth. If YOU dont want to have an abortion then fine dont get one but dont tell others they have to conform to your view for your religious reasons... You dont get to tell people how to live their own lives or who they can and cant love. You people to take Christians ( some not all) seriously ??? Then stop being hateful bigoted hypocrites
I had a protester outside the planned parenthood near me. my boyfriend took me, and I was walking a little sore after we left, and this lady started screaming in my face about my horrible abortion. I had actually just gotten a pap smear and an IUD, so it was funny.
This is a perfect illustration of why I am not just atheist, but anti-theist. While any people can be swayed by propaganda, there is no group more easily swayed, or more vehement once swayed that the devout. When the propaganda is delivered by the authorities they trust to teach them about GOD, the people they consider to reliable moral guides it is very effective. Look at this - in just a few short years, they got a group that was fairly apathetic, or even supportive of abortion and created rabid one issue voters and even murderers and terrorists. That is the deadly power of groups taught to believe things on faith, and blindly trust religious authority.
Psalm 137:8-9 "O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones." Then there's all the times that God literally ordered the Israelites to utterly exterminate their enemies -- including the newborns.
If u read all of psalms 137 you see its talking about isreal being destroyed by babylon. its a song of prayer asking for payback for wat they did to isreal. dont get it twisted the old testament is very explicit violence. Human nature
Abortion is in the bible, up to age 7. "Dasheth the little ones against the rocks." This passage offers advice in how to approach predictable hardship, like the start of war or massive famine. After age 7, kids can fend for themselves well enough. Before 7, individual children hold back the larger family unit. Additionally, the messed up life for the baby is unfair. Rather than, perhaps, an invading army raping the baby or dying slowly from malnourishment, just smashy-smashy those heads. ...so sayeth the Lord.
Um, that verse was in Psalms and had absolutely nothing to do with abortion and was written by a man who was fantasizing about destroying the lives of the people who had just conquered and subdued his people.
It is interesting to me that Christians know little of what is in their holy book. I considered myself a Christian and then decided once-and-for-all to actually read that book. Now I am an atheist and never going back. What a breath of fresh air to not have to play the game of religion. As MLK said "FREE AT LAST"
+Pali Aha because she has cloaked her own self-hate and projects her hatred on what is actually moral and fair. Unable to form a close union with a man, she then lashes out a her own failure in this area by attacking the entire (and I agree it is a) patriarchal system. She represents much of what is wrong with this country. In her real life (if she is anything like most comedians/iennes) she is miserably depressed and crippled with a deep sorrow in her heart from a wound she received early in her life that she has been unable to heal from. In truth, much of what she hates is herself.
Omniscient 1 Given your intelligence you must admit that the conclusions you've drawn are based on assumptions that we cannot corroborate. Nonetheless your summation sounds impressive.
tommaspawn No we don't. We get out oxygen thru the umbilical cord. Our mothers breath and eat for us. Our first breath is taken when the umbilical cord is cut. You must be a believer.
tommaspawn We do not breath. Oxygen is passed directly thru the umbilical cord to our blood stream. The lungs are NOT producing oxygen! No doctor will tell you that we take breaths because we don't. You can make up your own reality, just as all believers always do.
The Bible often identifies life with "breath", (Gen. 2:7) suggesting that life begins at birth, not conception. This has traditionally been the view of Jewish Biblical scholars. For example Ezekiel 37:1-14 suggests this which is consistent with Genesis 2:7. Adam did not become a "living soul" until the "breath of life" entered his nostrils AFTER his body was formed. Other examples are in Joshua 10:40, 1 Kings 15:29 and many others where "breath" is treated as a synonym for "life". In biblical terms it seems clear that life begins at birth, not conception.
Actually the bible mentions abortion. In the Adultery Test god tells Moses when to perform an abortion: And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people. And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed. Numbers 5:27-28
It is referring to her being unfaithful, however nowhere does it mention that she is pregnant, an important detail you are overlooking. I recommend you reread that chapter.
+Naomi Rivera it doesn't mention that she is pregnant. however she would not be able to become pregnant, which would cause her grief since a woman not having children was socially unacceptable back then. however if like you say she was pregnant, and the curse shriveled her organs killing the baby, that would contradict Ex. 21:22,23.
+usukatlifegodiekthx yes if the baby was born prematurely and without fatality in verse 22. however verse 23 says if a fatality did occur with the baby, then you must give life for life (or soul for soul). This would mean that if someone caused the death of a baby they would loose their life. apparently an unborn child's life was viewed just as valuable as an adults life.
in 22, why pay a fine if there was no harm, if you hit a woman and they have a healthy child what are you paying for? Your paying a fine for a miscarriage. Not like they had premature baby wards. In 23 it's talking about the mothers life.
I like this show, but these TH-cam vids can be a bit hard to follow. The titles don't always make it clear where to start watching for these sort of full-length segments.
umm, Samantha, I just want to say there is a part of the bible basically giving instructions on how to get a woman to miscarry. or in other words, cause an abortion.
+Brian Jensen but Numbers is in the Old Testament and after the events of the Old Testament God sent Jesus to fulfill the word.The book of Numbers was originally part of the Torah, not to pin this on Jews, but Christianity's teachings come from Jesus who you can read about in the New Testament and all he taught was to believe that is the way and to love your neighbor and enemy. Everything that happened in the Old Testament is true and from the outside looking in it makes God look cruel but this just isn't true. In fact, he loves us so much he sent his only son to die for us and while he walked the earth all he ever did was spread love.
Okay so I set my DVR to record Samantha Bee every Monday at 10:30 and all I seem to get is basketball interrupting 90% of the episode or a repeat...then I come on TH-cam and see the actual episode I missed.
Also, according to Exodus 21:22-25 an unborn fetus is not valued as human life. In fact, according to Numbers 3:39-40 life begins at one month of age after birth..
So where can I find that schoolhouse rock video, I found the "Whatever happened to the human race" series on youtube but I couldn't find that musical number.
Actually, there IS a passage about abortion, which says that if a man thinks a woman cheated on him and he thinks the baby isn't his he should force her to drink an abortion-inducing herbal drink. If she "miscarries" that's God's way of saying she cheated on him. *So yeah, God's a-okay with abortions so long as they're being forced and non-consensual.*
I don't get why people have to meddle it should be a choice. It's not for me I wouldn't encourage an abortion. But its not my place to say so in someone else's life.
Really pro-lifers? A person who had a huge part in creating the movement regrets it and is now a liberal pro-choicer? It says something about a movement when one of the creators said it's terrible and jumped ship.
I suppose you can ignore verse 28, which explicitly claims that the accused woman is not pregnant, but can become so if she has not been unfaithful. Why? It doesn't fit into your narrative?
polemius01 5:27-5:28 "When he has made her drink the water, then it shall come about, if she has defiled herself and has been unfaithful to her husband, that the water which brings a curse will go into her and cause bitterness, and her abdomen will swell and her thigh will waste away, and the woman will become a curse among her people. 28But if the woman has not defiled herself and is clean, she will then be free and conceive children." Your point doesn't really hurt the argument. If she isn't pregnant then the potion won't work, but if she has had a child that doesn't belong to her husband she will miscarry.
I can read. Where is the explicit proof that an abortion may happen during the ritual? "Bitter water" is used often for "poisoned water." The results of a poisoning include swelling abdomen; the term "thigh will waste away" is unclear, at best. If an abortafaecient is meant, then there would be a clearly written description of the result, including some reference to illicit offspring; the only conclusion is that the entire passage is metaphorical, with a meaning contemporary to the editing stage about which moderns are ignorant.
Actually, the bible does have something to say about abortion. In Numbers 5:11-31, god describes an abortion procedure to Moses and tells him to teach all of his priests how to do it. God's pro choice. :)
Actually... the Bible does mention abortion... in passages where it gives instructions as to why and how it should be done to prevent bringing forth a baby that may be an abomination in the sight of God...
It a good thing the Democratic Party doesn't have some horrible back story behind its creation and its political positions for the first 200 years or so.... That would be super embarrassing....
You're partially right, although Democrats back in the 1800's were for segregation, slavery, and discrimination towards people of all races. But ehh, what ultraconservatives ignore is the Southern Strategy so that's the reason behind them saying "Republicans were the only warriors for human rights, all Dems were monsters".
1800s? Try through the 1960s. And the amusing part is all that's changed is they've stopped oppressing blacks and now support killing children. Yea dems!
What used to be the Democratic party of the South was embraced and subsumed by the Republican Party after the Democrats considered themselves betrayed by the Washington Elites in their own party who forced desegregation down their throats (you know: demanded they treat colored people as human beings). All those nasty, racist, bigoted shitstains flocked en masse to the Republican Party, where they are still the most reliable voting bloc. Everything despicable about the Demcrats of the 60's is now part of the Republicans TODAY. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Fun fact- There is no mention in any book of the Bible that the Bible is the express word of God. Not one book in the Bible has a part saying "this book is the very word of God". Teaching that the 66 books in the Bible are the inerrant word of God is not biblical.
Actually the Bible suggests abortion if the husband suspects (just suspects) his wife has cheated on him. The woman gets no choice at all in this matter.
um you are just wrong about the bible and abortion. in Leviticus I think it says if a father does not want a baby he can have it killed. I forget the exact passage. and I think that includes unborn and born.
holy crap! I knew it was bad, but I didn't think it was this bad. Is there any modern "hot button issue" that was not made controversial by some a-hole trying to manipulate the public for power?
6:39-6:42**obviously hasnt read exodus 21:22,23.......psalm 127:3...or romans 1:26, 27. im not here to start an argument, but she's dead wrong about this not being mentioned.
Whenever someone brings out the "Protestants didn't care about abortion until [whenever]" card, or the "the Bible is pro-abortion" card, I wonder what Catholics are supposed to think...
Not to say the Religious Right is unconditionally correct, but Bee's portrayal of it is hardly accurate. She is inexplicably silent on Catholic opposition to abortion, which was constant and preceded eventual Evangelical support (though Schaeffer Jr. did allude to it). In many ways, she attacks the obvious weaknesses and shortcomings of the Religious Right and the pro-life movement, creating a strawman that doesn't accurately represent the big picture and is thus easily dismantled. Such is increasingly typical of the left wing's "comedy news" phenomenon (think John Oliver, Stephen Colbert, Trevor Noah, Jon Stewart). Its funny, yes, but hardly intellectually rigorous or considerate of multiple perspectives. Many people (myself included) find the right-wing media's "Fear the Left" conspiracy-mongering (O'Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, etc.) to be a significant threat, but I think the left wing's comedy-flavored contempt for the right to be the opposite side of the same coin. If the danger of conservatism is to valorize the past and distrust the future, is not the danger of progressivism to celebrate every innovation and belittle anyone who voices doubt or concern?
She was discussing the Religious Right, correct? If so, that includes a significant portion of Catholics, and with regard to the abortion issue, the explicit support of Church teaching.
*If the danger of conservatism is to valorize the past and distrust the future, is not the danger of progressivism to celebrate every innovation and belittle anyone who voices doubt or concern?* That is the fundamental nature of cons and libs. Cons cling to the past, the tried and true, the status quo, and distrust change and things new. Libs look to the future, the new, change, and seek to correct the mistakes and errors of the past that should have been abandoned a long time ago. Both have pros and cons.
+Cal6009 A fetus develops blood cells after 5 weeks, well within the first trimester. There is a lot of ignorance on both sides of the debate. Try not to be a part of it.
I wonder if they even knew the origins of their hateful beliefs, would they hate less? Whoever gave them dominion over other people's bodies? Nothing they say or do makes sense, or is logical or even sane. The Catholic Church? Gives me the creeps, so much lies and deceit.
The only place that belongs to the Bible is the fantasy section of some random library. If you believe in God, fine, bully for you, but don't even begin to speculate upon reunite state and church. That was not a happy marriage.
2 things 1. I have never found the Bible in the fantasy section of a library. 2. the church and state were separated to protect the church from the state not the other way around. Get the facts straight and have a good day sir. God bless
As a Christian with parents who are pastors, I know a lot of big church organizations and I can tell you first hand that a lot of them either care only about money or using the church for political purposes.
“Our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, any more than our opinions in physics or geometry.”
- Thomas Jefferson, A Bill for Establishing Religious Freedom (1779)
What many people don't understand about Roe v. Wade is that the ruling was over whether women had the right to privacy when it comes to medical procedures or not. Privacy was the main point of the debate. Those who don't believe in privacy were on one side and those who believed in privacy were on the other. Therefore when extrapolated, Pro-life is actually anti-privacy rights. Pro-choice ends up being people who are for women's rights to privacy when it comes to their vaginas. Republicans want to violate the privacy of women's vaginas. Those sick perverts!
***** Not nearly as funny as what I said.
By every scientific measure a fetus is a living human at 12 weeks.
***** I have no idea what you are trying to say.
That was addressed to the ersatz 7th President of the US
+Jim Helmer No, it was as funny as what you said. Neither were funny.
The show's delivery of its POV is like a bullet through the brain. It is direct and perfectly crafted. Even if I wasn't sympathetic to those views already, I'd have to give the show credit for its powerful style. Kudos to you and your team, Ms B. And giving us the full Schaeffer interview is the icing.
That is extremely disturbing. Not a woman in site, all men trying to tell women what to do with their bodies.
Sale M you are exactly correct, we can do whatever we want. And if having to dumb down oneself so that some weak man can feel strong, then who needs him anyway. Strong woman need a strong partner, not someone who has to be coddled like a child.
Listen cutey the strong alfa males dont want the so caled alfa experiensed women they want the traditional women, by going down that rode youll end up with a beta male or alone(women think things work how they imagine im a man i know how men think the strong woman so called wants a strong man all women want strong men, but the so called strong women are more emotional and irational and men that have some brain dont want those kind of women), good luck, alfa and alfa dont mix.Women think big of them self, women belive that men are suposed to spend money on them just because women are keeping them company, (acting like children) If women didnt need to be treated like children they would actualy be equal,(women didnt earn there right they were given and still dont deserve them, women will wote for criminal Hilary just because shs a woman O.o) a feminist said it her self a real feminist, men are supirior to women.If humankind was led by women we would be still living in caves.
Sale M well I see you have a lot to say about this issue. Not a lot of substantial things but a lot to say. It is your opinion what a man wants. You can tell me what you want, not what all men want. You don't speak for all men, and I am glad of that. You also went out on a limb to tell me about strong women. So you are an expert on men and women? Not sure how you can explain that one, but in any case you are incorrect again. You don't speak for all women. One thing I can tell you, sweetie, you may want to stop speaking in such general terms. I am not emotional or irrational, nor any of the bright, articulate, accomplished women I know. As far as men being attracted to this type of woman, no problems there either. Now it seems like you have reveal some things about yourself based on what you said, " women believe that men are supposed to spend money on them just because women are keep them company " These are the type of women you happen to be dealing with, and they are in no way a feminist. Feminist are always prepared to pay there own way. And prior to this statement you were right up to the line, but this one put you completely over it, " women didn't earn their right they were given and still don't deserve them". " men are superior to women" " if mankind were led by women we would still be living in caves"
I quoted you up to a point, I corrected the spelling and grammatical errors. Ok those quotes tell me that you may just have a issue with women in general. It isn't that men are superior, it's that you think you are superior to women. WOW, I bet you are a fun date. SMH. It is 2016, relationships don't require a tug of war, or a title for power. They can be equal, heck they should be equal. Women have done nothing but fight for their rights in every way to be equal. Nothing was given without hard work and there is still bias. I am not sure about your household as a child, but you should go back and think about all your mother had on her plate back then and how she handled it and tell me you still think women couldn't lead.
i dont know how all men think, yeah and you dont know that all or 99% of women crave bad boys, a man doesent know men well enought as a woman, yeah i have never been penetrated or dominated, women want that not equality.Women are not born to lead as men are not born to give burth to children.It has been proven by science.
50 Shades 100,000,000, copies sold world wide in a mathere of days or maybe in first day.this conversation is over.
Sale M funny I don't recall saying anything about women wanting a bad boy. I also don't recall saying the other stuff you threw in there, I guess you were making a reference to the book 50 shades of gray. Either way, you don't get to decide who leads and who follows. It's not up to you.
And you can end this conversation anytime you want, but remember you commented on my thread. I must say, I think I struck a nerve from before. Oh well, sometimes it doesn't pay to comment on every post you read.
It is a sad fact that our comedy shows are more informative than the actual news.
I love how she dressed up as Gloria Steinem 😂
Samantha Bee is a national treasure.
Sam really does her research...
The sad thing is that a lot of political satirists do more research than any average voter does.
As if our "government" logs into TH-cam to watch Samantha Bee...
+Joey Peles this is a satirical show and doesn't purport to be news. fox news spouts one sided, poorly researched opinion as fact. that's probably more divisive, especially since more people watch it.
David Wu
You are correct about FoxNews. They are doing Opinion of News as News broadcasts instead of Reporting Facts about News as News broadcasts. It's too bad that it's viewers don't understand the difference....and it is a shame that the other 24-hour cable newscasts are also doing news shows where the topic is "the opinion of news stories as news".
Serious News viewers are going to have to start READING again.....Newspapers still hire actual news reporters and news investigators as news writers.
by that you mean her team of two dozen writers
My philosophy, you can be against abortion as long as you are willing to fork over the tax dollars to help pay for all those extra kids. Just remember that 40% of all US births are payed by Medicaid and the old line about welfare queens doesn't apply to pregnancies that would have been terminated if not for the government.
Actually, Abortion is found in the bible, but it is only if the men want to do it to women. As per usual with the bible, women don't get a say.
"And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people." Numbers 5:27
So Abortion is legal according to the bible, as long as it is against the will of the woman it is being performed on. Anyone who thinks the bible is good, is sick in the head.
I'll research that. Thanks for doing most of the work bro.
You beat me to it. Indeed, i believe the bible says a woman should get an abortion after she is impregnated when committing adultery
That is in the old testament... The Christians that are not an abomination Only follow the New Testament.
+tommaspawn
Your God just told me to tell you to stop judging.
+tommaspawn Christians are against abortions because they makeup whatever fads they want to believe in. Its ok to wear makeup and wear clothes of mixed fabric eat shrimp etc but when it comes to something god (aka the MEN who wrote the bible not god) didn't specifically state you put words in their mouth. If YOU dont want to have an abortion then fine dont get one but dont tell others they have to conform to your view for your religious reasons... You dont get to tell people how to live their own lives or who they can and cant love. You people to take Christians ( some not all) seriously ??? Then stop being hateful bigoted hypocrites
I had a protester outside the planned parenthood near me. my boyfriend took me, and I was walking a little sore after we left, and this lady started screaming in my face about my horrible abortion. I had actually just gotten a pap smear and an IUD, so it was funny.
The truth is pretty telling, that the whole anti choice movement is full of BS.
This is a perfect illustration of why I am not just atheist, but anti-theist. While any people can be swayed by propaganda, there is no group more easily swayed, or more vehement once swayed that the devout. When the propaganda is delivered by the authorities they trust to teach them about GOD, the people they consider to reliable moral guides it is very effective. Look at this - in just a few short years, they got a group that was fairly apathetic, or even supportive of abortion and created rabid one issue voters and even murderers and terrorists.
That is the deadly power of groups taught to believe things on faith, and blindly trust religious authority.
There is a verse about how it's OK to smash babies against rocks if they're your enemies' kids.
Psalm 137:8-9 "O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones."
Then there's all the times that God literally ordered the Israelites to utterly exterminate their enemies -- including the newborns.
"How blessed will be the one who seizes and dashes your little ones against the rock," (Psalm 137:9).
Psalm 137:9 "How blesse
d will be the one who seizes and dashes your little ones against the rock,"
Well +Blake Magnuson, there are those receipts you asked for.
If u read all of psalms 137 you see its talking about isreal being destroyed by babylon. its a song of prayer asking for payback for wat they did to isreal. dont get it twisted the old testament is very explicit violence. Human nature
Abortion is in the bible, up to age 7. "Dasheth the little ones against the rocks."
This passage offers advice in how to approach predictable hardship, like the start of war or massive famine. After age 7, kids can fend for themselves well enough. Before 7, individual children hold back the larger family unit. Additionally, the messed up life for the baby is unfair.
Rather than, perhaps, an invading army raping the baby or dying slowly from malnourishment, just smashy-smashy those heads.
...so sayeth the Lord.
I need a whole lot of fantasy to read that interpretation into the actual psalm and I'm an atheist
johnmburt1960 Hopefully the scraping up isn't right after a "dasheth"-ing. ;-)
Um, that verse was in Psalms and had absolutely nothing to do with abortion and was written by a man who was fantasizing about destroying the lives of the people who had just conquered and subdued his people.
***** How do you figure it's not about the fairness of who and when our youngest family members are killed for the good of the whole?
there is a verse where god performs abortion. but i guess he's exempt from sin with all the genocidal mass murdering an all.
Makes you want to move to Iceland, where Christianity is viewed as a public health nuisance.
Have fun with your polygomy and "refugees"
Amen to that
What's "polygomy"? If you mean polygamy, that might be fun, but like so many other things condoned in the Bible, we don't usually allow it anymore.
I think the gnomes hide in hot springs and volcanic vents on Iceland. They're fairly heat resistant :-)
+wackydelly84 No trees in iceland?
It is interesting to me that Christians know little of what is in their holy book. I considered myself a Christian and then decided once-and-for-all to actually read that book. Now I am an atheist and never going back. What a breath of fresh air to not have to play the game of religion. As MLK said "FREE AT LAST"
Sam Bee: FUNNY & EDUCATiONAL.
boys wanna be her. gurls wanna be her.
+William Mecca thats really funny and heavy handed XD
Omniscient 1
I can see you disagreeing w/me or anyone else, but why the HATE? You want to go thru your life miserable all the time?
+Pali Aha because she has cloaked her own self-hate and projects her hatred on what is actually moral and fair. Unable to form a close union with a man, she then lashes out a her own failure in this area by attacking the entire (and I agree it is a) patriarchal system. She represents much of what is wrong with this country. In her real life (if she is anything like most comedians/iennes) she is miserably depressed and crippled with a deep sorrow in her heart from a wound she received early in her life that she has been unable to heal from. In truth, much of what she hates is herself.
Omniscient 1
Given your intelligence you must admit that the conclusions you've drawn are based on assumptions that we cannot corroborate. Nonetheless your summation sounds impressive.
Try banning alcohol. That worked out well.
Spot on reporting. Awesome!!!!
Wow. This is crazier than I could have imagined.
I have so much respect for you, Samantha. You've got a great voice. Keep using it.
What the bible does say, is that life doesn't begin till the first breath. So...
tommaspawn No we don't. We get out oxygen thru the umbilical cord. Our mothers breath and eat for us.
Our first breath is taken when the umbilical cord is cut.
You must be a believer.
tommaspawn We do not breath. Oxygen is passed directly thru the umbilical cord to our blood stream.
The lungs are NOT producing oxygen!
No doctor will tell you that we take breaths because we don't.
You can make up your own reality, just as all believers always do.
Verse Please
The Bible often identifies life with "breath", (Gen. 2:7) suggesting that life begins at birth, not conception. This has traditionally been the view of Jewish Biblical scholars. For example Ezekiel 37:1-14 suggests this which is consistent with Genesis 2:7. Adam did not become a "living soul" until the "breath of life" entered his nostrils AFTER his body was formed. Other examples are in Joshua 10:40, 1 Kings 15:29 and many others where "breath" is treated as a synonym for "life". In biblical terms it seems clear that life begins at birth, not conception.
Your talking about Jews, Im talking about Christians. Christians should follow the New Testament. As far as I know Jews follow the Old Testament.
The guy screaming on the street needs to be committed to a sanitarium.
Actually the bible mentions abortion. In the Adultery Test god tells Moses when to perform an abortion:
And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people. And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.
Numbers 5:27-28
it is referring to the degeration of her reproductive organs so that she can not conceive. That is not the same thing as abortion.
It is referring to her being unfaithful, however nowhere does it mention that she is pregnant, an important detail you are overlooking. I recommend you reread that chapter.
+Naomi Rivera it doesn't mention that she is pregnant. however she would not be able to become pregnant, which would cause her grief since a woman not having children was socially unacceptable back then. however if like you say she was pregnant, and the curse shriveled her organs killing the baby, that would contradict Ex. 21:22,23.
+usukatlifegodiekthx yes if the baby was born prematurely and without fatality in verse 22. however verse 23 says if a fatality did occur with the baby, then you must give life for life (or soul for soul). This would mean that if someone caused the death of a baby they would loose their life. apparently an unborn child's life was viewed just as valuable as an adults life.
in 22, why pay a fine if there was no harm, if you hit a woman and they have a healthy child what are you paying for? Your paying a fine for a miscarriage. Not like they had premature baby wards.
In 23 it's talking about the mothers life.
"Arson, bombings, acid attacks, murders...You know, pro-life stuff."
Nice.
You realize this did not air last night on Direct TV?? You were replaced with a rerun???
Good, I don't need another knockoff John Oliver/Seth Myers
she really is the true heir to jon stewart 9/10 (-1 for TBS)
I like this show, but these TH-cam vids can be a bit hard to follow. The titles don't always make it clear where to start watching for these sort of full-length segments.
***** Ah, good tip! Thanks!
I did not know C. Everett Coop was a nut job, but then again the beard gives it away.
Please be a nightly show, Samantha Bee. We need you.
There's already too many nightly political satire shows, she'll be dealing with a lot of competition at that rate.
She's not as funny as Colbert and Corden
Corden?
umm, Samantha, I just want to say there is a part of the bible basically giving instructions on how to get a woman to miscarry. or in other words, cause an abortion.
thesteelshark Numbers 5:11-31
That's called disinformation.
The precise verses are Numbers 5:11-31 for anyone who doubts this person.
+Brian Jensen but Numbers is in the Old Testament and after the events of the Old Testament God sent Jesus to fulfill the word.The book of Numbers was originally part of the Torah, not to pin this on Jews, but Christianity's teachings come from Jesus who you can read about in the New Testament and all he taught was to believe that is the way and to love your neighbor and enemy. Everything that happened in the Old Testament is true and from the outside looking in it makes God look cruel but this just isn't true. In fact, he loves us so much he sent his only son to die for us and while he walked the earth all he ever did was spread love.
fulfill, but did also said he isn't abolishing them. plus another passage saying "god never changes" doesn't help.
Well that was depressing as fu--.
But also entertaining and informative.
Thank you! I hope for more segments like it in the future.
you guys need to bump up the audio im cuppin my hand over the speaker man
get better speakers audio is fine
Okay so I set my DVR to record Samantha Bee every Monday at 10:30 and all I seem to get is basketball interrupting 90% of the episode or a repeat...then I come on TH-cam and see the actual episode I missed.
Also, according to Exodus 21:22-25 an unborn fetus is not valued as human life. In fact, according to Numbers 3:39-40 life begins at one month of age after birth..
So where can I find that schoolhouse rock video, I found the "Whatever happened to the human race" series on youtube but I couldn't find that musical number.
Actually, there IS a passage about abortion, which says that if a man thinks a woman cheated on him and he thinks the baby isn't his he should force her to drink an abortion-inducing herbal drink. If she "miscarries" that's God's way of saying she cheated on him.
*So yeah, God's a-okay with abortions so long as they're being forced and non-consensual.*
I don't get why people have to meddle it should be a choice. It's not for me I wouldn't encourage an abortion. But its not my place to say so in someone else's life.
Moral Relativism
***** yeah that's the same thing.
***** wow
I would really like to get the references for this so I can pursue the research. Does Bee have references available?
Can I like this video more than once?
thank you, Sam
W-what happened to the full episode upload plan!? D:
I enjoy her so much grateful for the youtube.com posts!
I've never cringed this hard in my life until now
thanks u for this your videos keep me going
Really pro-lifers? A person who had a huge part in creating the movement regrets it and is now a liberal pro-choicer? It says something about a movement when one of the creators said it's terrible and jumped ship.
There is actually a magic abortion spell in Numbers 5:11-31.
Nope, not even close.
It does say that if a women is unfaithful she will swell and there will be a discharge.
I suppose you can ignore verse 28, which explicitly claims that the accused woman is not pregnant, but can become so if she has not been unfaithful.
Why?
It doesn't fit into your narrative?
polemius01 5:27-5:28
"When he has made her drink the water, then it shall come about, if she has defiled herself and has been unfaithful to her husband, that the water which brings a curse will go into her and cause bitterness, and her abdomen will swell and her thigh will waste away, and the woman will become a curse among her people. 28But if the woman has not defiled herself and is clean, she will then be free and conceive children."
Your point doesn't really hurt the argument. If she isn't pregnant then the potion won't work, but if she has had a child that doesn't belong to her husband she will miscarry.
I can read. Where is the explicit proof that an abortion may happen during the ritual?
"Bitter water" is used often for "poisoned water." The results of a poisoning include swelling abdomen; the term "thigh will waste away" is unclear, at best.
If an abortafaecient is meant, then there would be a clearly written description of the result, including some reference to illicit offspring; the only conclusion is that the entire passage is metaphorical, with a meaning contemporary to the editing stage about which moderns are ignorant.
O....a part 2!!? yayyy! ( settles in for the ride )
The guy screaming in the video about abortion looks like Mike Pence...
Can we get a Scream-off between that pro-life guy at the end and the democrat from Nevada from John Oliver's recent piece?
I saw that lol. That guy made all our Bernie Sanders supporters feelings heard in one yell
Actually, the bible does have something to say about abortion. In Numbers 5:11-31, god describes an abortion procedure to Moses and tells him to teach all of his priests how to do it. God's pro choice. :)
I'm amazed that Thomas Frank didn't write about this in his great book "What's the Matter with Kansas?"
Actually... the Bible does mention abortion... in passages where it gives instructions as to why and how it should be done to prevent bringing forth a baby that may be an abomination in the sight of God...
Why is she acting like the scientific link between abortions and cancer and 9/11 don't exist?
Like, that they caused 9/11? Because they didn't.
troll or joke? Too hard to tell.
Heather Spoonheim JOKE!!
Ok, thanks - hard to tell these days.
Poe's Law
The "Pro-Life" movement, more accurately the "pro-birth" movement, has no place in a society where insanity through the repetition of history exists.
Brilliant piece. Way to go, Sam.
It a good thing the Democratic Party doesn't have some horrible back story behind its creation and its political positions for the first 200 years or so.... That would be super embarrassing....
You're partially right, although Democrats back in the 1800's were for segregation, slavery, and discrimination towards people of all races. But ehh, what ultraconservatives ignore is the Southern Strategy so that's the reason behind them saying "Republicans were the only warriors for human rights, all Dems were monsters".
1800s? Try through the 1960s. And the amusing part is all that's changed is they've stopped oppressing blacks and now support killing children. Yea dems!
What used to be the Democratic party of the South was embraced and subsumed by the Republican Party after the Democrats considered themselves betrayed by the Washington Elites in their own party who forced desegregation down their throats (you know: demanded they treat colored people as human beings). All those nasty, racist, bigoted shitstains flocked en masse to the Republican Party, where they are still the most reliable voting bloc. Everything despicable about the Demcrats of the 60's is now part of the Republicans TODAY. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
6:15 I'd put money on that dude being a closet homosexual...
What's wrong with homosexuals
Sameer Wasiullah Nothing. He's just being a hypocrite.
+akabaker98 how?
Gasp! How dare they?! They just defiled a wonderful song from the 50s (and Fallout) with that terrible (home)school house rock! (At 3:40 ish)
Fun fact- There is no mention in any book of the Bible that the Bible is the express word of God. Not one book in the Bible has a part saying "this book is the very word of God". Teaching that the 66 books in the Bible are the inerrant word of God is not biblical.
I didn't realize Samantha was Canadian until the very end of this video, when she says "sore-e"
Actually the Bible suggests abortion if the husband suspects (just suspects) his wife has cheated on him. The woman gets no choice at all in this matter.
I guess next time my GF wants an abortion. I'll tell the clinician that it was my decision and I insist on it lol.
Yeah, that'll go over well.
Well, I'll believe anything random youtube commenter says something else they hate says.
Numbers 5:11-31. Read it and weep.
sure
I thought Margaret Mead said, "Never doubt that a bullsh*t book about Samoans based on non-science and lies can change the world." Who knews?
um you are just wrong about the bible and abortion. in Leviticus I think it says if a father does not want a baby he can have it killed. I forget the exact passage. and I think that includes unborn and born.
actually I may be thinking of Hammurabi's code
In Numbers 5 : 27 the Bible talks about a potion given to women so they can have an abortion.
I cant believe they put that baby in a cage for propaganda.
Trump look like the character " The Monkey King "
What's funny is that Koop became a bit infamous for trying to keep his personal beliefs separate from his policies as surgeon general.
Numbers 5 doesn't say anything about abortion. It does not even mention the woman being pregnant, just if she has committed adultery.
samantha her skit "the five", Genius!
Why are Embrey-o's cereal frosted flakes and not cheerios???
The music in the first movie reminded me of Ghostbusters
"Abortion was that thing Catholics worried about" -face palm
holy crap! I knew it was bad, but I didn't think it was this bad. Is there any modern "hot button issue" that was not made controversial by some a-hole trying to manipulate the public for power?
6:39-6:42**obviously hasnt read exodus 21:22,23.......psalm 127:3...or romans 1:26, 27. im not here to start an argument, but she's dead wrong about this not being mentioned.
You are amazing. Keep up the good work, please!
"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones." Psalm 137:9
I just had a mini-miscarriage inside, and I'm a man.
Randall Balmer holds his hands like Angela Merkel :P
Whenever someone brings out the "Protestants didn't care about abortion until [whenever]" card, or the "the Bible is pro-abortion" card, I wonder what Catholics are supposed to think...
Do whatever you want, as long as you don't physically harm others!....including babies. As simple as that.
Queue angry Catholics in 3..2...1...
The Evangelicals are angry. Catholics, not so much.
Yeah as a surprising amount of Catholics are in fact democrats, especially the young generation (aka the ones who know about youtube)
The Evengelical Republicans she's talking about are mostly protestant denominations.
Angry Catholics? Try homicidal Evangelicals.
6:18 but aren't they tho?
the Bible clearly states those who shed innocent blood evil will never depart from the house
Is she going to talk about the regressive left?
Why doesn't that guy just call the police himself?
Carrot and stick... GOP needs more voters, they create an "issue" for their target demographic which they promise to solve... and yet never do.
Go Sam!!!!! Love your show!
I just can NOT fathom how somebody believes 1 religion out of the 1000s and truly believe it to be true...i am almost jealous
Idgaf about abortion. I just noticed 'Anything Goes' from fallout
Not to say the Religious Right is unconditionally correct, but Bee's portrayal of it is hardly accurate. She is inexplicably silent on Catholic opposition to abortion, which was constant and preceded eventual Evangelical support (though Schaeffer Jr. did allude to it). In many ways, she attacks the obvious weaknesses and shortcomings of the Religious Right and the pro-life movement, creating a strawman that doesn't accurately represent the big picture and is thus easily dismantled. Such is increasingly typical of the left wing's "comedy news" phenomenon (think John Oliver, Stephen Colbert, Trevor Noah, Jon Stewart). Its funny, yes, but hardly intellectually rigorous or considerate of multiple perspectives. Many people (myself included) find the right-wing media's "Fear the Left" conspiracy-mongering (O'Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, etc.) to be a significant threat, but I think the left wing's comedy-flavored contempt for the right to be the opposite side of the same coin. If the danger of conservatism is to valorize the past and distrust the future, is not the danger of progressivism to celebrate every innovation and belittle anyone who voices doubt or concern?
She was discussing the Religious Right, correct? If so, that includes a significant portion of Catholics, and with regard to the abortion issue, the explicit support of Church teaching.
*If the danger of conservatism is to valorize the past and distrust the future, is not the danger of progressivism to celebrate every innovation and belittle anyone who voices doubt or concern?*
That is the fundamental nature of cons and libs. Cons cling to the past, the tried and true, the status quo, and distrust change and things new. Libs look to the future, the new, change, and seek to correct the mistakes and errors of the past that should have been abandoned a long time ago. Both have pros and cons.
HopefulSaint
Thoughtful observations are in limited supply.
Thank you
She's the best!
Excellent bit
The right to shed innocent blood. Congrats.
Yep it's ridiculous these days
You like being manipulated so rich boys can get richer and have power over you? Silly question.
Fetuses don't have blood yet you nitwit.
+Cal6009 A fetus develops blood cells after 5 weeks, well within the first trimester. There is a lot of ignorance on both sides of the debate. Try not to be a part of it.
thewanderandhiscomp Ad hominems already flyin around. Typical.
So...Moses' Mount Sinai was the first abortion clinic. Numbers 5:11-27
I wonder if they even knew the origins of their hateful beliefs, would they hate less? Whoever gave them dominion over other people's bodies? Nothing they say or do makes sense, or is logical or even sane. The Catholic Church? Gives me the creeps, so much lies and deceit.
The only place that belongs to the Bible is the fantasy section of some random library. If you believe in God, fine, bully for you, but don't even begin to speculate upon reunite state and church. That was not a happy marriage.
2 things
1. I have never found the Bible in the fantasy section of a library.
2. the church and state were separated to protect the church from the state not the other way around. Get the facts straight and have a good day sir. God bless
You can always... pray for me to get the facts straight! God bless you, I'm already blessed enough.
your answer 2 is wrong. if anything it was to protect the citizens, then the govt, and lastly religion.
the inquisition?! boy that's a stretch dnt you think?
Numbers 5:11-31 The Bible actually has a verse about how to perform an abortion, including a magic abortion potion