great video delivery..finally an english speaking channel discussing xeons and chinese mobos, i subbed immediately, now if i may do a cpu suggestion,, at the moment a xeon e5 2650 v3 costs 58 euros (aliexpress), has 10c/20t and supports 2133 ram speed,, and although it is clocked at 3.00ghz it scores better than e5 2640 v3 in all benchmarks but in gaming they perform the same, so i'd say go for e5 2650 v3 for value.
great video, it is very interesting to see how an architecture of more than 5 years ago is able to bring up more current processors, especially in video games. I have a big question and I would like to see something like: "Xeon e5 2640v3 single channel vs dual channel vs quad channel, benchmarks and games". I could not find this on TH-cam;).
Time flies so fast that xeon 2640 v3 is $5-6 USD ! If you can stretch your budget better get ryzen 2nd gen and a used a320m.. I was aiming for 1st gen and a320m build but its hard to find used motherboard in my country.. So i ended up with x99. For the cost of cheap x99 motherboard you can get a ryzen 2600/3500
Thanks for the tests! Do you think it's possible to run more than 4.5Ghz on 1650v3, with X99-TF, or it will burn the motherboard VRM? The cooling from CPU will not be a problem to me, as i'll use liquid cooling.
Can this board unlock max turbo (like AsRock boards can) on Xeons (sorry for annoying question, didn't catch that from your video) or you have to play with flash BIOS?
Yes, you can unlock turbo boost frequency, but you have to use a modified BIOS. In this video Xeon E5-2640 V3 was tested with unlocked turbo boost running 3.4 GHz on all CPU cores. See my guide here: th-cam.com/video/VkwEvATIgW0/w-d-xo.html
hi, for render video x264 / x265 ? vegas, filmora, premier ,there is a worthy competition for ryzen 9 or for the ryzen 2700x because it will be to stay for a good time with the pc in xeon?
@@Miyconst I think that if I have the mania of having 70 tabs in 5 different browsers, those xeons with ddr3 would do well for me than with ddr4 ($$), more than anything in socialmedia work
What is ECC ram i am planning to build budgeted gaming pc with E5 1650 v3 (t5810) case i heard about ECC ram are expensive and also slow ram than non ecc, can i use non ECC ram in t5810 workstation
@@Miyconst we went for those module for basically the price, those are crucial at 2666 4x4gb at 16gb total, basically try to approach the interleave capabilities of the motherboard
Excellent presentation, congratulations! Please, could you inform the undervolt for Huananzhi X99-F8 with Xeon E5 1650 V3 overclocked to 4.1 Ghz? I subscribe u...I'm from Brazil! : - )
Where do you find E5-2630 V3 for half the price? Everything I see on AliExpress and eBay is either E5-2630L V3, this is a low power chip with turbo boost up to 2.9 GHz or Engineering / Qualification Samples, these chips do not support turbo unlock and may fail to work on Chinese X99 boards at all.
@@Miyconst I apologize, the one I saw may be an engineering sample h5.aliexpress.com/item/32826163001.html?spm=a2g0n.seo-amp-search.searchResult.32826163001
Друг, проще выучи английский хотя бы для техновидео. Я шарю в инглише и могу тебе сказать, что западные техноблоггеры используют в своих обзорах одни и те же слова, их там штук 50-100 наиболее часто употребимых максимум. Гугли: инкрис - увеличение, компээ - сравнение, дифференс - разница, битвин - между, аверейдж - среднее, дроп фрэймс - пропуски кадров, чипер - дешевый, кост - стоимость, анфоченли (анфотенли) - к сожалению. Остальные сам ищи, мне уже лень писать)
@@Miyconst ah ok... I just got a 1650 v3... After watching serval of your videos comparing them I've come to the conclusion that I'd be better off with a 16xx rather than a 26xx . I want to pay cod warfare occasional (have a second pc with a 9600kf and 5700xt) but mainly use it for editing game recordings. So while a 8 core or even 10 core would have been better I don't think I need.mlre.than 6 cores 12 threads even for editing. And if it struggles I can get a 2640 for £50 to see if it's the CPU that's slowing me down.. I mean currently the 9600kf (6c6t) isn't doing a bad job.
me again XD assume you can run normal ddr4 ram, and itll just run at the speed dictated by the cpu. for example the 1650 v3 is 2133 as i have 16 gb (4x4gb) 3000hz rram
E5-1650 V3 is an unlocked CPU, you can overclock RAM with it, using Chinese X99/C612 motherboards you can get DDR4-2400, with branded motherboards it's up to DDR4-3200.
@@Miyconst thanks, i got the pc together, but the bios isn't like the one ive seen you show, also while in xtu i can run 4,3ghz at 1,25v and can happily apply that every time and game on it, as soon as i set that in the bios that doesn't work and wont boot, even if i adjust the clock speed what's so ever in the bios i get a black screen now im wondering if its best to sell the mother board and cpu on or keep looking in to the issue
@@matk22 Well.. (if I remember correctly you use Huananzhi X99) it seems like you have got an "updated" BIOS, which doesn't support overclocking. You have to rollback to the original BIOS which worked with overclocking or you can attempt to use the iEngineer option.
@@Halfpirate this question does not have an answer. It's like asking "how often do you use clutch when driving". It all depends on which GPU, which RAM, which game, which resolution you play with.
@@Miyconst oh ok I just got confused because I was trying to buy a cpu and someone said make sure the cpu doesn't drop and I was like but isn't the GPU what controls what FPS you get when
@@Halfpirate gaming experience is delivered by a PC, not by a single component. You need a balanced gaming computer with fully functional individual components. You can get the latest i9 and install a crappy GPU or do the other way around, then you will get stutters and frame drops during gaming. It also up to the game to properly behave, some games are just so poorly optimized, that it does not matter which hardware you use, framedrops will chase you through entire gameplay.
@@Miyconst Normally, they are On by default, and InSpectre doesn't disable the patches completely but well enough. I wonder how much these security patches hit this Xeon generation
@@yorchli3152 It depends on which kind of patches you talk about. There are Windows patches, these shall be on, and BIOS updates for X99 platform. I Really doubt that Chinese manufacturers bothered to use the latest microcodes from Intel. Also, using the latest patched BIOSes on branded X99 motherboards disable overclocking abilities, which is a real hiccup. See this great video from Hardware Unboxed for more details on X99 platform: th-cam.com/video/yXSCs4AK0kc/w-d-xo.html
@@KadiusFTW These programs are very unreliable and may damage your system under certain circumstances, also, FSP overclocking is very limited even when it works.
great video delivery..finally an english speaking channel discussing xeons and chinese mobos, i subbed immediately,
now if i may do a cpu suggestion,, at the moment a xeon e5 2650 v3 costs 58 euros (aliexpress), has 10c/20t and supports 2133 ram speed,,
and although it is clocked at 3.00ghz it scores better than e5 2640 v3 in all benchmarks but in gaming they perform the same, so i'd say go for e5 2650 v3 for value.
Yes, Xeon E5-2650 V3 is a very appealing option as well.
Not for game. Or 2640v3, or 2660 2678v3.
Good English. Good reviews thanks
Excelent reviews, dont exis´t other in the net!
Love all these X99 Xeon videos and comparisons, very well produced and informative. Thanks from the UK!
Thnx for speaking English for global audience 😍😍 not much videos on Xeon gaming benchmark ...I subscribe u..
great video, it is very interesting to see how an architecture of more than 5 years ago is able to bring up more current processors, especially in video games. I have a big question and I would like to see something like: "Xeon e5 2640v3 single channel vs dual channel vs quad channel, benchmarks and games". I could not find this on TH-cam;).
Seems like an interesting subject. I will add it to my plans.
Это есть на Ютубе канал технопланета иногда упоминает
@@ВиталийДабижа-г9х товарищ просил проверить разницу между 1,2,4 каналами. И нет у него такого нет. Он лишь говорил, что различия DDR3 от DDR4 нет
only based on my experience i would say the difference between a single and dual channel should be way more substantial than dual vs quad.
Amazing video and content, bro! I really like so much your videos about Chinese hardware!
Nice work, keep the videos coming
Your videos are really good 👍
Thanks, really helpful
In this case the limit is probably the GPU. So the CPU model doesn't matter so much. More or less, you get the same results.
thank you for making this video!
0:15 dude how can i find your table? it is looks like good and enough. i dont have case and i dont like. i prefer that modular case what's the name?
Here you go: th-cam.com/video/_LdakNG20N0/w-d-xo.html
Nice too see Mark zuker burg making pc videos on youtube.Good carreer path.
😄😄
Does the Xeon E5-1650V3 get too hot?
My Hyper 212 black can cool it?
Yes, Xeon E5-1650 V3 is getting very hot if your overclock it, but in stock configuration or with a mild overclock, Hyper 212 Evo will be just enough.
I like your open test bench. What is it or where can I see more options?
You can find it on Amazon and AliExpress: www.amazon.de/Bewinner-Aluminum-Computer-Overclocking-Excellent-Black/dp/B082KY65NC/
what is the performance different between 2667 V2 vs 2666 V3 with Huananzhi x99 -TF and 2x16 ECC DDR 3 memory ?
Time flies so fast that xeon 2640 v3 is $5-6 USD ! If you can stretch your budget better get ryzen 2nd gen and a used a320m.. I was aiming for 1st gen and a320m build but its hard to find used motherboard in my country.. So i ended up with x99.
For the cost of cheap x99 motherboard you can get a ryzen 2600/3500
cyborg in action
Thanks for the tests! Do you think it's possible to run more than 4.5Ghz on 1650v3, with X99-TF, or it will burn the motherboard VRM? The cooling from CPU will not be a problem to me, as i'll use liquid cooling.
Definitely not possible. The motherboard won't burn up, but it will just crash out.
Can this board unlock max turbo (like AsRock boards can) on Xeons (sorry for annoying question, didn't catch that from your video) or you have to play with flash BIOS?
Yes, you can unlock turbo boost frequency, but you have to use a modified BIOS. In this video Xeon E5-2640 V3 was tested with unlocked turbo boost running 3.4 GHz on all CPU cores. See my guide here: th-cam.com/video/VkwEvATIgW0/w-d-xo.html
hi, for render video x264 / x265 ? vegas, filmora, premier ,there is a worthy competition for ryzen 9 or for the ryzen 2700x because it will be to stay for a good time with the pc in xeon?
No, better invest into a decent Ryzen system.
@@Miyconst I think that if I have the mania of having 70 tabs in 5 different browsers, those xeons with ddr3 would do well for me than with ddr4 ($$), more than anything in socialmedia work
@@marcoguzman4801 then a single/dual Xeon E5-2678 V3 setup is the way to go.
hey mate do you know the difference in gaming performance between the 6 core e5 2620 v3 and the 2640 v3? thanks a lot
I do, see my comparison here: th-cam.com/video/LVYvA7nRm7E/w-d-xo.html
Ахуенный тест!!!!!
I still can't understand why 2640 V3 is better than 1650 V3 ¿?
What is ECC ram i am planning to build budgeted gaming pc with E5 1650 v3 (t5810) case i heard about ECC ram are expensive and also slow ram than non ecc, can i use non ECC ram in t5810 workstation
As far as I know T5810 supports non-ECC memory with only one specific and old BIOS, the latest BIOS works with ECC memory only.
Where do you get ryzen 2700x for $120?
Not available anymore. At that time there were a few sellers selling R7 2700 for $120-$150 on AliExpress.
On the table 14:00 is R5 not R7, is that an error?
@@brain72 Yes, that's a typo. It should have been Ryzen 7.
Hi! Do you have a comparison for these xeon on emulation? I mean something heavy like PS3 (God of War 3).
Sorry, I don't.
@@Miyconst oh ok! I don't know if it's asking too much, but do you mind making one?
Maybe I can do something in the future, but can't promise anything.
@@Miyconst ok! Don't Sorry! TY very much!!
What about Xeon 2640 v3 for Video editing (Premiere pro)?
With Turbo Boost Unlock it should be just fine.
@@Miyconst Thank you! 🙏
@@Miyconst BTW, can I buy the processor, mobo, and ram separately? I'm worried about the compatibility.
@@kennethearl9878 of course you can, but the RAM compatibility is questionable, especially if you buy cheap 4/8 GB modules.
Sorry sr for the interruption, but is possible to install 4 memory module of 4 gb each for the total of 16 gb in a x99 d8
Yes, it's surely possible, but the cheap 4-bank modules are not supported by this platform.
@@Miyconst we went for those module for basically the price, those are crucial at 2666 4x4gb at 16gb total, basically try to approach the interleave capabilities of the motherboard
@@Miyconst and thanks for a detailed review about the product, help a lot
Excellent presentation, congratulations! Please, could you inform the undervolt for Huananzhi X99-F8 with Xeon E5 1650 V3 overclocked to 4.1 Ghz? I subscribe u...I'm from Brazil! : - )
If you want to overclock your CPU to 4.1 GHz you need to increase the voltage, not to decrease, thus it's overvolting, not undervolting.
Like to see 1650 v3 and 2640v3 against 1650 v1 and 2690 v1 etc. Be interesting to know how much better these Haswell xeons are!
I am planning to test some X79 CPUs soon, so stay tuned.
@@Miyconst nice, I currently run HPZ620 with E5 2690, it great cpu. But all this x99 talk has got me thinking about a new build 😂
Thank you!
Is it worth getting compared to the E5-2630 V3, it's about half the cost and with the turbo boost hack it runs at 3.2 vs 3.4 for the 2640 v3
Where do you find E5-2630 V3 for half the price? Everything I see on AliExpress and eBay is either E5-2630L V3, this is a low power chip with turbo boost up to 2.9 GHz or Engineering / Qualification Samples, these chips do not support turbo unlock and may fail to work on Chinese X99 boards at all.
@@Miyconst Prices had changed since I last check, right now on aliexpress 2630 v3 is $48 and 2640 v3 is ~$75 so it's a 36% difference in price
@@MisterDirge Could you please link me the AliExpress shop which sells E5-2630 V3 for $48? Everything I could find is $75-$85.
@@Miyconst I apologize, the one I saw may be an engineering sample h5.aliexpress.com/item/32826163001.html?spm=a2g0n.seo-amp-search.searchResult.32826163001
Палец вверх!
what is the name of the base that is the components?
Here is my review for this base: th-cam.com/video/_LdakNG20N0/w-d-xo.html
Is there anyway to run the 2640v3 at higher RAM speeds than 1866mhz?
There is no.
Привет, дружище, по возможности добавь русские субтитры, если не сложно, а так все отлично😉
канал изначально создан для англоязычных пользователей.
Spectre One есть достаточное количество англоязычных каналов с русскими субтитрами, почему бы и ему не добавить их?)
@@ОлегПопов-у7ъ Вибачаюсь, але ж є можливість автоматичного перекладу субтитрів на російську говірку
q к сожалению, нет, есть только на английский)
Друг, проще выучи английский хотя бы для техновидео. Я шарю в инглише и могу тебе сказать, что западные техноблоггеры используют в своих обзорах одни и те же слова, их там штук 50-100 наиболее часто употребимых максимум. Гугли: инкрис - увеличение, компээ - сравнение, дифференс - разница, битвин - между, аверейдж - среднее, дроп фрэймс - пропуски кадров, чипер - дешевый, кост - стоимость, анфоченли (анфотенли) - к сожалению. Остальные сам ищи, мне уже лень писать)
so the xeon isnt worth it if the driver keeps getting uninstalled
It is, because there is another method which injects the driver into the BIOS, this way Windows can't uninstall it.
@@Miyconst ah ok... I just got a 1650 v3... After watching serval of your videos comparing them I've come to the conclusion that I'd be better off with a 16xx rather than a 26xx . I want to pay cod warfare occasional (have a second pc with a 9600kf and 5700xt) but mainly use it for editing game recordings. So while a 8 core or even 10 core would have been better I don't think I need.mlre.than 6 cores 12 threads even for editing. And if it struggles I can get a 2640 for £50 to see if it's the CPU that's slowing me down.. I mean currently the 9600kf (6c6t) isn't doing a bad job.
Is it good to pair this with a gtx 1660 super?
Yes, it is.
me again XD assume you can run normal ddr4 ram, and itll just run at the speed dictated by the cpu. for example the 1650 v3 is 2133 as i have 16 gb (4x4gb) 3000hz rram
E5-1650 V3 is an unlocked CPU, you can overclock RAM with it, using Chinese X99/C612 motherboards you can get DDR4-2400, with branded motherboards it's up to DDR4-3200.
@@Miyconst thanks, i got the pc together, but the bios isn't like the one ive seen you show, also while in xtu i can run 4,3ghz at 1,25v and can happily apply that every time and game on it, as soon as i set that in the bios that doesn't work and wont boot, even if i adjust the clock speed what's so ever in the bios i get a black screen
now im wondering if its best to sell the mother board and cpu on or keep looking in to the issue
@@matk22 Well.. (if I remember correctly you use Huananzhi X99) it seems like you have got an "updated" BIOS, which doesn't support overclocking. You have to rollback to the original BIOS which worked with overclocking or you can attempt to use the iEngineer option.
@@Miyconst yes I have the x99 f8. What do I need to do? Use the x99 tf bios? Where can I find the iengineer option thanks
@@matk22 you can find the original F8 & TF BIOS in my Mi899 application, and iEngineer options are here: github.com/BIOS-iEngineer
How frequent does the e5 2640s FPS drop
Please elaborate, what is your question about?
@@Miyconst how often do 0.1 and 1% occur during heavy gaming
@@Halfpirate this question does not have an answer. It's like asking "how often do you use clutch when driving". It all depends on which GPU, which RAM, which game, which resolution you play with.
@@Miyconst oh ok I just got confused because I was trying to buy a cpu and someone said make sure the cpu doesn't drop and I was like but isn't the GPU what controls what FPS you get when
@@Halfpirate gaming experience is delivered by a PC, not by a single component. You need a balanced gaming computer with fully functional individual components. You can get the latest i9 and install a crappy GPU or do the other way around, then you will get stutters and frame drops during gaming. It also up to the game to properly behave, some games are just so poorly optimized, that it does not matter which hardware you use, framedrops will chase you through entire gameplay.
Are Spectre and Meltdown security patches active on the Xeons?
I don't think so.
@@Miyconst Normally, they are On by default, and InSpectre doesn't disable the patches completely but well enough. I wonder how much these security patches hit this Xeon generation
@@yorchli3152 It depends on which kind of patches you talk about. There are Windows patches, these shall be on, and BIOS updates for X99 platform. I Really doubt that Chinese manufacturers bothered to use the latest microcodes from Intel. Also, using the latest patched BIOSes on branded X99 motherboards disable overclocking abilities, which is a real hiccup. See this great video from Hardware Unboxed for more details on X99 platform: th-cam.com/video/yXSCs4AK0kc/w-d-xo.html
you use cpu cooler what ?? i want to buy
He wrote in the video description; - CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L12
i got my 1650 running at 4.18 just looking to get better config it seams like it will bench higher 4.3 but isn't stable.
Which motherboard do you use? Huananzhi X99-TF?
@@Miyconst asrock x99 extreme 6/3.1
@@Crazycarl66757 seems like it's a decent motherboard, with proper cooling 4.3 GHz shall be achievable.
how you make your 1650v3 for 4.1 Ghz?
You can overclock Xeon CPUs with unlocked multiplier such as E5-1650 V3 using BIOS or Intel Extreme Tuning Utility (XTU).
@@Miyconst or through other programs like speedfan or setfsb
@@KadiusFTW These programs are very unreliable and may damage your system under certain circumstances, also, FSP overclocking is very limited even when it works.
2640v3 support 2666mhz ram or not ?
No it does not. Maximum RAM speed with E5-2640 V3 is DDR4-1866.
@@Miyconst but can i use 2600mhz ram since i can't find 1866 ram.
@@Sambathgame Yes, you can use it, but it will work as DDR4-1866.
@@Miyconst thank ah ngob
@pelis spanish It does not mean that the RAM will work at that speed :)
2640v3 and 2650v3 costs exactly the same for russian buyers aprox 65$, or 60$ with coupon.
I just get 2640v3.
For me Xeon E5-2640 V3 is also more appealing, but due the popularity its price is growing higher than Xeon E5-2650 V3.
to overclock the version V4, HOW TO TEACH?
You cannot overclock V4 Xeons.
U should test the games at 1080p as most people will play at 1080p
I have got myself an RTX 2080 Ti, and from now on, I test at 1080p.
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e5 1650v3 4.1 ghz))) wat???? 4.8 ghz?
Which motherboard do you suggest to run E5-1650 V3 @ 4.1 GHz?
@@Miyconst JINGSHA X99 D8 !!! e5 1650v3 - 4.8-5ghz!!!
@@delanis4830 I am curious to know how you validated the system stability and what voltages you use.
@@Miyconst overclocking e5 1650 to 4.8, voltage automatically, Chinese motherboard
@@Miyconst aida 64 stress test aliexpress.ru/item/4000607088468.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.48c168c40fYB9P&algo_pvid=492a0611-649f-455f-9b01-3fbdda11530d&algo_expid=492a0611-649f-455f-9b01-3fbdda11530d-8&btsid=0b8b158f16079583975755607efd7d&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_&sku_id=10000003967501396
os xeons não aguentam velocidade de RAM mais rápida ? poderia deixar todos em 3000 mhz.
Unfortunately, not with these Chinese motherboards.
@@Miyconst entendo...
учитывая то что в играх р2600 и 2700 одинаковые то рузин получше будет, да там даже по цене одинаково
Згоден, особливо з останнім зростанням цін на Xeon E5-2640 V3 / E5-2650 V3, платформа AM4 виглядає значно привабливішою.
@@Miyconst 看来俄语和乌克兰语可以不需要翻译沟通
@@deyu260 那不是，乌克兰人基本上会说俄语，但是俄罗斯人听不懂乌克兰语。
amd r7 120? u r high