Don't hammer on the ball-joint!! It'll warp the hole!! Get the OTC ball-joint tool set!! If the arm is bent, it'll affect the alignment. Autozone has a tool set also. The ball-joint presses in and out easily with the right tools. If it's a one-time thing only take it to the shop.
well i hammered that ball jointand it never moved but today i removed it... it wus hard cuz i jamdd the bottom by hittinglast time it wont come out vuz of the locking pin well hope ur god blesse u for helping othr people thanks
There's pro's and con's to both. I could have gotten these arms with bolt in....just an earlier year of the same vehicle, but the bolt in style take up a lot of room. I did a more recent version of this vid. th-cam.com/video/jzsak1V_7Ew/w-d-xo.html I cut these arms up and modify them to fit on an older Datsun truck. Having the bolt in ball joints would have made it nearly impossible to do. If you're curious, you can search "GB" on this channel or check out my IG under the same name.
+Ric Tester Thank you so much Ric!! I always try to check out the channels of those that comment. I just watched a couple of your vids.....WOW!! Your cover of Little Darlin' from about 5 years ago......very impressive!!! Love your voice! :) Mike
You're an absolute champion. I was about to break my LCA in the press just like you did the first time :) I'd been looking at it for ages trying to work out where the snap ring could possibly be, and had it in the press witha few tonnes on it before I figured it couldn't be right. Very clear explaination of how your process to get it sorted, well done.
I really enjoyed your video. ..we live & learn, as long as you learn from your mistakes & don't repeat them that's the way to improve! That is, just how you are, brilliant.
Thanks Keith!!! You learn twice as much doing it the wrong way.....maybe three times as much if you do it wrong again! LOL :) I wouldn't have as much to share if I didn't share my mistakes :) Thanks for watching!!! Mike
hey mr thanks for your video i think THATS why i cant take the ball joint from the arm cuz it has THE SAME RING BUT DIDNT KNOW IT Till nNOW thanks again
lol. You're more than welcome. Sometime I think that if I didn't include my mistakes, I'd have nothing to post. That guy in the mirror is always the hardest one to deal with. :) Mike
Do you have to take the lower control arm off to press the ball joint out or can I use a ball joint removal tool and an air gun to zip it off and on with the arm still attached?
No need to remove the arm. You should be able to use the removal tool with it still attached. For what I'm doing with the arms......they're already off the vehicle.
sir, there is a bit play in my tie rod axle. The axle connecting the inner and outer tie rods is able to make rotation about 1 inch (no noise at this time) or less, but there is no play or movement when the axle is move in and out (it seems normal). Could you kindly clearify about this play whether its going bad or just normal. Thanks.
Without seeing it, there's no way for me to know......even then, I'm not a professional mechanic with tons of experience on different vehicles. You'd be better off taking it to one so they could look at it directly.
But, Hyundai dealer claimed that the arm comes in set. So, it sounds we can not buy either bushings, ball joints, rubber boot etc separately. In short, regardless of other parts good or bad, I have to change the whole control arm!!!! How true is this?
I thought you were asking about these arms. I have no clue about Hyundai arms. You might check rockauto.com and see if the parts are available separately.
It isn't a ring, it is a circlip. An external circlip. You'll find it much easier to put the thing you are working on in a vice. I know you know that but if you are purporting to write an educational video using the right words and methods is a good idea.
Nearly all of my stuff is just simply sharing what I'm doing in the shop and not meant to be for educational purposes. This is more of a "learn from my mistakes" video. lol So, that would be one more mistake. Typically, external circlips are designed to be remove with snap ring pliers. If you look at the :38 second mark, you'll see that is it literally just a wire ring. There are versions of this application that do use true circlips.
@@bluehandsvideo I'm not suggesting you are an educator, the whole world can see you aren't that. You've taken the time to film what you do, and someone will copy you. So if you do it correctly, they at least will have a chance to. All youtube videos are educational in that way. What you are doing is good, it could just be better.
Ummm...Ahhhh...Sooo....Now.....If I take them all out, I wouldn't have any audio. LOL I spend a lot of time trying to edit those out these days.....it's part of why I hate editing video and really don't post many anymore. I've probably got close to 30 or 40 hours of raw video in the editor right now waiting......from up to a year ago. Maybe I should start scripting them. lol Thanks. :)
@@sidewayskiwikick2899 I kinda figured.....but it's not near good enough to warrant the number of views it's gotten! LOL I feel like I should put an apology in the title bar. LOL :) Thanks!!! -Mike
thank you for the video, that c clip is a extra safety!, but i did forget about it, and i have to remove the ball joint and bushings in my control arm soon i needed to see this thank you!
If I were only doing one or two at a time, I would. The batch I'm working on now is 30 arms. I've gotten a lot better at it. lol I show it in this newer video..... th-cam.com/video/jzsak1V_7Ew/w-d-xo.html
It's a 20 ton HF shop press with a 20 ton air-over-hydraulic jack. If you search my vids for "20 ton shop press", you should find a vid showing the relief valve I made. It will give you a good view of the jack. Also search "bjm54" and go to the 3 minute mark for a better view of the press and jack. Thanks!!
Yes, there's a handful of different styles. The older Datsun/Nissans had bolt on ball joints. Other manufacturers had different sizes and shapes as well.
Hi everyone, I am trying to remove lower control arm on nissan hardbordy 2001. I have removed everything I am now left with the main bolt holding lower control arm. I tried to hammer it but no luck.Please help.
The rubber in the bushing is probably absorbing most of your impact. You can try a bigger hammer. The bolts are still available new. A bit more drastic option is to cut the bolt. run down between the inside of the arm and the frame on both sides. It will damage the end of the bushing and you'll have to replace it too....which is another royal pain.
I still can get that shit out, got a tool to push down at O'Reilly, but the ball joint broke and went through, now I got the ball joint capsel in there, I'm going to have to modify the piece of crap tool now.
The one that looks like a big C clamp? Never used one. Did you see the piece of tube I cut to hold the arm underneath while I pressed it. Something like that might help if you're trying to hammer it out. If it's a stamped sheet metal arm like mine, you might try heating the arm flange up with a propane torch....then cool the ball joint piece down with some air or a can of dust off held upside down. Just be careful. I'm not sure what will happen if that ball joint piece is really hot and you try to instantly cool it. Water might work, but I'm sure the steam could easily burn you.
+bluehandsvideo I have a torch at home, but I think the company pressure forged the ball joint, it's not a pressable joint is what I'm thinking so I have to buy the whole arm. I'm going to hammer it out as a last resort.
I looked it up on rockauto.com....great place for reference.....the ball joint is serrated, but it should press out of the arm with that C-clamp like tool. There's a vid or two specific to your joint and arm on YT.....have you seen them? With the removal tool, you should have a larger tube underneath the arm that will just fit over the ball joint. On the top, use the tube that fits on the shoulder of the ball joint, right by the dust boot. Might be easier if you take the dust boot off. Even if you pressed on the shaft and pushed the ball out the bottom, the tubes should still work to get the body of the joint out.
?? Did I say that in the vid? Or that's just how you're saying thanks? Kind of ironic......I put thanks for watching at the end of every vid.....so either this one is from before I started doing that or I forgot to. Oh well. :) Thanks!! Mike
Wish we over the other side of the pond had cars and stuff that were built like in the states, instead of all this euro shit, built to last out the warrantee then buy a new one because it's worn out, over here you would prob have to buy a complete new arm instead of just the joint, stupid rip-off Britain ! Soz great video well explained.
I'm not sure we're much better. This vid was done while preparing parts for a ball joint modification on an older truck with kingpins. I bought 10 new arms with ball joints already in them. That was the easiest, cheapest way to get them. lol But, we can but just the joint locally if I wanted to use the old arms. I'm modifying the arm, so I didn't want to go pull used arms from the scrapyard.......lazy!! :) Thanks! I'm glad you liked the vid! :) Mike
Leave arm installed,use air hammer to take it out and ball joint press tool to install,way more simple..
I'm sure you're right. I don't have the vehicle. I modify these arms to convert older kingpin suspensions to ball joints.
I really wanted to see you do it with a BFH.
I'm shut down, so I doubt I'll be doing it again. :(
Don't hammer on the ball-joint!! It'll warp the hole!! Get the OTC ball-joint tool set!! If the arm is bent, it'll affect the alignment. Autozone has a tool set also. The ball-joint presses in and out easily with the right tools. If it's a one-time thing only take it to the shop.
Thanks. Good info. This was a good example of how not to do it....not sure why it gets so many views. lol
well i hammered that ball jointand it never moved but today i removed it... it wus hard cuz i jamdd the bottom by hittinglast time it wont come out vuz of the locking pin well hope ur god blesse u for helping othr people thanks
+eddie freddy You're more than welcome. :)
Thanks. Been wondering if it was possible to repair/replace these types of ball joints. Why can't all manufacturers just use bolt on ones?!
There's pro's and con's to both. I could have gotten these arms with bolt in....just an earlier year of the same vehicle, but the bolt in style take up a lot of room. I did a more recent version of this vid. th-cam.com/video/jzsak1V_7Ew/w-d-xo.html I cut these arms up and modify them to fit on an older Datsun truck. Having the bolt in ball joints would have made it nearly impossible to do. If you're curious, you can search "GB" on this channel or check out my IG under the same name.
Great video. And I like your "can do" attitude
+Ric Tester Thank you so much Ric!! I always try to check out the channels of those that comment. I just watched a couple of your vids.....WOW!! Your cover of Little Darlin' from about 5 years ago......very impressive!!! Love your voice! :)
Mike
bluehandsvideo ;
You're an absolute champion. I was about to break my LCA in the press just like you did the first time :) I'd been looking at it for ages trying to work out where the snap ring could possibly be, and had it in the press witha few tonnes on it before I figured it couldn't be right.
Very clear explaination of how your process to get it sorted, well done.
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I really enjoyed your video.
..we live & learn, as long as you learn from your mistakes & don't repeat them that's the way to improve!
That is, just how you are, brilliant.
Thanks Keith!!! You learn twice as much doing it the wrong way.....maybe three times as much if you do it wrong again! LOL :) I wouldn't have as much to share if I didn't share my mistakes :)
Thanks for watching!!!
Mike
hey mr thanks for your video i think THATS why i cant take the ball joint from the arm cuz it has THE SAME RING BUT DIDNT KNOW IT Till nNOW thanks again
+eddie freddy I completely killed that arm before I figured it out! Doh!! Glad it helped! :)
Awesome. I liked it when you said, "like butter". Thanks for sharing!
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Thanks for admitting you are not perfect. Many of us expect perfection and get stuck with the guy in the mirror.
lol. You're more than welcome. Sometime I think that if I didn't include my mistakes, I'd have nothing to post. That guy in the mirror is always the hardest one to deal with. :)
Mike
Dorene.... Moog is a brand name(manufacturer). I've never heard of a driver-works ball joint. Do you have a link to a reference for them?
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Do you have to take the lower control arm off to press the ball joint out or can I use a ball joint removal tool and an air gun to zip it off and on with the arm still attached?
No need to remove the arm. You should be able to use the removal tool with it still attached. For what I'm doing with the arms......they're already off the vehicle.
bluehandsvideo ok thank you.
Oh my god you are awesome. You are talking like a movie of Chevy Chase. I enjoyed it!
Thanks! :)
Mantap..bang.. makasih ilmunya
You're welcome.
sir, there is a bit play in my tie rod axle. The axle connecting the inner and outer tie rods is able to make rotation about 1 inch (no noise at this time) or less, but there is no play or movement when the axle is move in and out (it seems normal).
Could you kindly clearify about this play whether its going bad or just normal. Thanks.
Without seeing it, there's no way for me to know......even then, I'm not a professional mechanic with tons of experience on different vehicles. You'd be better off taking it to one so they could look at it directly.
Sir, can't we still use the control arm part and change only the bushings, ball joints etc?
Any issues of reusing the control arm back???
Yes, you can change out the ball joint and reuse the arm. My interest in the arm was to modify it to use on an old Datsun pickup.
But, Hyundai dealer claimed that the arm comes in set. So, it sounds we can not buy either bushings, ball joints, rubber boot etc separately.
In short, regardless of other parts good or bad, I have to change the whole control arm!!!! How true is this?
I thought you were asking about these arms. I have no clue about Hyundai arms. You might check rockauto.com and see if the parts are available separately.
What kind of press do you own that uses the impact driver. I have never seen a press like this one.
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It isn't a ring, it is a circlip. An external circlip. You'll find it much easier to put the thing you are working on in a vice. I know you know that but if you are purporting to write an educational video using the right words and methods is a good idea.
Nearly all of my stuff is just simply sharing what I'm doing in the shop and not meant to be for educational purposes. This is more of a "learn from my mistakes" video. lol So, that would be one more mistake. Typically, external circlips are designed to be remove with snap ring pliers. If you look at the :38 second mark, you'll see that is it literally just a wire ring. There are versions of this application that do use true circlips.
@@bluehandsvideo I'm not suggesting you are an educator, the whole world can see you aren't that. You've taken the time to film what you do, and someone will copy you. So if you do it correctly, they at least will have a chance to. All youtube videos are educational in that way. What you are doing is good, it could just be better.
@@craigfishcake2543 Yep
Sir, I have a question for you. What is the difference between a moog ball joint and a driver-works balljoint?
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Basically UUUUGH.... pretty much UUUGH.... if you try UUUUGH... it UUUUGH...
On a serious note UUUUGH.... good vid 😂
Ummm...Ahhhh...Sooo....Now.....If I take them all out, I wouldn't have any audio. LOL I spend a lot of time trying to edit those out these days.....it's part of why I hate editing video and really don't post many anymore. I've probably got close to 30 or 40 hours of raw video in the editor right now waiting......from up to a year ago. Maybe I should start scripting them. lol Thanks. :)
@@bluehandsvideo good video bud. I’m just kidding
@@sidewayskiwikick2899 I kinda figured.....but it's not near good enough to warrant the number of views it's gotten! LOL I feel like I should put an apology in the title bar. LOL :) Thanks!!! -Mike
thank you for the video, that c clip is a extra safety!, but i did forget about it, and i have to remove the ball joint and bushings in my control arm soon i needed to see this thank you!
You're more than welcome! Thanks!
Tutorial yang sangat bermanfaat
Thank you. :)
Should have used the pressed from the beginning.
Yep
They have free equipment, for that. Just have to ask.
If I were only doing one or two at a time, I would. The batch I'm working on now is 30 arms. I've gotten a lot better at it. lol I show it in this newer video..... th-cam.com/video/jzsak1V_7Ew/w-d-xo.html
It's a 20 ton HF shop press with a 20 ton air-over-hydraulic jack. If you search my vids for "20 ton shop press", you should find a vid showing the relief valve I made. It will give you a good view of the jack. Also search "bjm54" and go to the 3 minute mark for a better view of the press and jack.
Thanks!!
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my ball joint looks a little different are there different styles
Yes, there's a handful of different styles. The older Datsun/Nissans had bolt on ball joints. Other manufacturers had different sizes and shapes as well.
Great Video!
+Mark Joshua Quevedo Thanks!!
Hi everyone, I am trying to remove lower control arm on nissan hardbordy 2001. I have removed everything I am now left with the main bolt holding lower control arm. I tried to hammer it but no luck.Please help.
The rubber in the bushing is probably absorbing most of your impact. You can try a bigger hammer. The bolts are still available new. A bit more drastic option is to cut the bolt. run down between the inside of the arm and the frame on both sides. It will damage the end of the bushing and you'll have to replace it too....which is another royal pain.
Thanks very much I will try that.
Hopefully, it won't be too bad getting the bushing out, but here's what I ended up doing.
th-cam.com/video/V3NEiH3R7e0/w-d-xo.html
Great Job Amigo!!!
Thanks!
I was waiting for it to snap back in followed by cursing 😅
...I would have probably edited out the cursing. lol
Awesome!!! Thank you! I'm so glad it helped....that is the goal of doing these vids. :)
I appreciate the comments :)
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Thanks! My buddy Dave says that all the time. :)
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I still can get that shit out, got a tool to push down at O'Reilly, but the ball joint broke and went through, now I got the ball joint capsel in there, I'm going to have to modify the piece of crap tool now.
The one that looks like a big C clamp? Never used one. Did you see the piece of tube I cut to hold the arm underneath while I pressed it. Something like that might help if you're trying to hammer it out. If it's a stamped sheet metal arm like mine, you might try heating the arm flange up with a propane torch....then cool the ball joint piece down with some air or a can of dust off held upside down. Just be careful. I'm not sure what will happen if that ball joint piece is really hot and you try to instantly cool it. Water might work, but I'm sure the steam could easily burn you.
+bluehandsvideo I have a torch at home, but I think the company pressure forged the ball joint, it's not a pressable joint is what I'm thinking so I have to buy the whole arm. I'm going to hammer it out as a last resort.
What year/make/model is the vehicle you're working on?
+bluehandsvideo Ford Mustang 2010
I looked it up on rockauto.com....great place for reference.....the ball joint is serrated, but it should press out of the arm with that C-clamp like tool. There's a vid or two specific to your joint and arm on YT.....have you seen them? With the removal tool, you should have a larger tube underneath the arm that will just fit over the ball joint. On the top, use the tube that fits on the shoulder of the ball joint, right by the dust boot. Might be easier if you take the dust boot off. Even if you pressed on the shaft and pushed the ball out the bottom, the tubes should still work to get the body of the joint out.
Ask Elvis. Thank you very much :)
?? Did I say that in the vid? Or that's just how you're saying thanks? Kind of ironic......I put thanks for watching at the end of every vid.....so either this one is from before I started doing that or I forgot to. Oh well. :) Thanks!!
Mike
richardcloudbase hyuhh
Funny guy lol. Good video. Got there in the end.
Thanks! :) I have my moments. lol
Luckily snapring didn't hit throgh your eyes 😰
yep....probably would have cracked my glasses
DON'T use his tricks may be someone hurt seriously.
You'll have to be a bit more specific than that. Exactly how will they? I'd be happy to post a link to your video showing how to do it.
push the ball piont in the wrong way, no a goood demostration.
It's a good example of how NOT to do it. I have no clue why it gets so many views.
you're working too hard. but it's all good. you got it done.
Thanks. :)
Don't have to be too bright to be me!!! Sadly, I prove that daily! lol
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We learn from our miss steaks. Good jod
I tend to learn more often then others!! LOL :)
Thanks!!
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Wish we over the other side of the pond had cars and stuff that were built like in the states, instead of all this euro shit, built to last out the warrantee then buy a new one because it's worn out, over here you would prob have to buy a complete new arm instead of just the joint, stupid rip-off Britain ! Soz great video well explained.
I'm not sure we're much better. This vid was done while preparing parts for a ball joint modification on an older truck with kingpins. I bought 10 new arms with ball joints already in them. That was the easiest, cheapest way to get them. lol But, we can but just the joint locally if I wanted to use the old arms. I'm modifying the arm, so I didn't want to go pull used arms from the scrapyard.......lazy!! :)
Thanks! I'm glad you liked the vid! :)
Mike
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Jesus christ clips.
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