Years ago before my 91 fox was stolen (25year ago ), no wife no kids , no house , no mortgage. Lol). I started out with start block , stock everything with an S trim . Made 298 rwhp at 8psi . Move up to tfs iron street heats ans edelbrock EFI intake , B303 cam 1.7 rockers , 65 tb and 73 maf , 32 lb injectors. Made 418 rwhp. Was starving it . I didn't know better at the time . Melted the pist and blow the headgasket . Moved up to a 347 same block , fixed fuel issue . Change the fuel pump . When to 55 injectors toucked up the heads and intake . Went to a 70 TB and an 80 MAF . Anderson pipe , kept the B cam . Loved it better then the E . Stock T5 with 327 in the rear. Tuners Made 525 at 13lbs of boost spinning it 6500 rpm . Had an F cam but didn't have the chance to change it . All that with cold A/C . Saleen it and put 17 inch ROH ON HER . Loved that car so much .just Loved it . The sound of the vortec . miss it dearly . One day i will get another one .
Got a similar set up 331 forged goodies mahle pistons trick flow heads intake 14 pounds of boost 😀 3.55s not sure the power numbers but it will fry tires at 70mph in third 😀 can't touch in first second gear like 30 percent 😉 cooks tires and the sound is intoxicating. I desire no other car even tho some of the new stuff is insane 😳. I even got a Ferrari kill as in fast and furious.
Man that sucks, when I lived in San Francisco ca. I used to have to park my all original 86 mustang gt 5speed, Man really clean!. I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night knowing how easy they are to steal and people in the Bay Area steal them like crazy out here. I had to sell because of that reason. Now I have 2 fox body’s that I have behind a gate and can mod them how I want them now
Kinda confused about the front wheels spinning on the dyno. I've been at a lot of dyno shops and seen a lot of videos of dynos and unless it's an AWD the fronts aren't even on rollers. Am I missing something? Lol
Love the car man. I was wondering what bov you were running and where you got the charge tube from? I'm putting a Paxton Novi 2000 on my 78 Cobra 2 and I've been looking for a setup similar to yours but I cannot find it
You guys got balls !....I blew my 2 bolt block in half with an old P600 B intercooled ProCharger....making roughly 17lbs of boost...it was closer to 600 HP, with all the add ons TFS aluminum Heads, Cobra modified intake, pistons, cam, all the good stuff, etc....30 over with stock crank....👍🏻💪🏻🇺🇸
@@BryanRoupeyou are talking about a 5.0 Coyote, the comment, was about a 2 bolt main 302... You could put 1,000HP to that motor in the 70s, and it would crack THE BLOCK!!! Please, elaborate how new products INSIDE the motor, would help the tensil strength, of the BLOCK 😂🤦♂️🤡
Im just wondering why you used a blow-of valve, isn't that waste power on parasitic drag when reach the desired psi! may be to get better torque on lower rpm range?
Question I have a 302 stock machine balanced old school carb. Can I put a wiend super charger blower that sits on top which is belt driven. What are psi limits on stock 302, and what to watch out for to not blow shit up.
2 valves are trash … I had a built lighting and it was a total waste of money even though it made 850 to the crank .. if I had to do it all over I would’ve put a coyote in it and turbo
That's a good number considering there is a torque converter on the back of that motor. My 5speed 92 made 538 on a mustang dyno on 12 psi vortech s trim with afm power pipe and manual tensioner. Block split down the valley roll racing on a frontage road. I did a 331 dart block deal and it made 476 rwhp on the same dyno solid roller cam and a set of big afr and heads. Sometimes less is more. B303 cam and smog legal tfs heads for the win.
Out of curiosity, why the meth injection when you are running E85? Not criticizing, I had a great experience using water/meth on a 5.0 with a 150 nitrous shot, and 93 pump gas.
Tiny lil powerdyne blower on my car and I’m making 410 at the tire. 331 stroker with afr165 heads and 45lb injector. I can’t wait to upgrade to a novi2000 and see what my car makes at 18psi!!!
I had 89 5.0 with afr heads, holley intake, cam, and novi 1000. Stock bottom end. It made 400 rwhp at 10lbs on a conservative tune, with pump gas. I miss that car.
Ive been looking at the novi kits is about 4k for a tuner kit just the compressor and and air charge tubes then you need fuel system and computer they are not cheap 💪🇺🇸🔧👍🚘🔴🔥
Found a big vacuum leak after pulley change and belt issue fixed, would only make 9psi of boost. Immediately made 17-18psi after fixed and picked up good power
Honestly I did excepted more with 17lbs of boost. In the late 90s I made 617whp with stock bottom end, TFS original street heat heads cam and a S-trim on 16lbs of boost. Although I did run gen 6 DFI. So I could run the motor well past the stock 6250 rev limit. Not sure what you have for computer but there's more on the table if you can run it to 6800rpm or so. Any more rpm at that hp level. The bottom ends and block start to get angry lol. Regardless still not a bad job and at least it's not another fucking Ls. Have no problem with Chevy. I'm just so tired of seeing the same thing over and over. If you do think about running pass 6250 you will find little more power with a box upper. Didn't really hurt the power below 4000rpm either. Good luck and enjoy.
My goal for my car a 2002 Mustang GT Zinc Yellow convertible 5sp is a livernois 5.3L Short block 195cc ported TFS heads with the intake Andrew has using a BW EFR 9280 single turbo. Assembled BY Livernois ( Not sure of the cam but I want to be able to shift at 7200. NA powerband I think should be 1500 - 5800 and let the turbo handle the rest.)Final compression ratio 10.5 :1.
On this type of dyno, the tears are driven and the fronts are only driven if the car is all wheel drive. So the fronts spin a little when you pull it on, but the driven wheels are being measured correctly
Seems low 500 at 17psi, but then again what do I know lol, I came from Hemi platform that make crazy power!!, and now just starting to learn that making power on 2v ain’t as easy
Ok cool I’m at 14 initial and 45 overall with a big cam had no power until I went up on timing think I need 4 more degrees. Lots of back and forth on timing in the 302s.
Some dyno shops run the front wheels to match the rear to tune progression based on speed and most speed sensors are mounted on the front as to not give false readings due to wheel spin
That’s crazy would have thought you’d made into the 600 range on e85 with 17psi. The th400 must eat a lot up. I have a vortech on 15lb on e85 it’s a hand full 1st through 3rd
We where a little thrown off by the dyno numbers. It was flowing enough fuel to make over 600hp, 80lb injectors over 90% duty cycle with 60psi base. Interested to see what it does on the track.
That HP is way low compared to a vortech S trims I've seen. A Vortech S trim with decent heads and cam on a 302 typically makes 495 rwhp on 10 psi. Built several and all dyno 490+ rwhp with 10psi. They've all had different heads, cam, intake combos too.
Sbf... heads, cam intake, supercharger 9psi= 400rwhp - $5000 in motor easy Ls1....stock ls6 heads, cam, stock ls6 intake=400+rwhp - $2000..... ls1 with same mods as the mustang... $5000 and 600-800rwhp. Very nice car and good power but why spend the money on a 302 not a 351/408?
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Just like the good Lord intended.. a small block Ford in a Fox
Im normally in the neutral zone as far as this goes but something about a fox body with a 302 In it is just right
@@anthonyarnold906 ehhh 351s in foxes are pretty badass
@@traxxasrcfun isn't the 351 a small block?
@@TheBabyDerp it is
@@docstruthers
I thought the 9.5 inch deck motor 351, was a big block, and the 8.2 inch,302, a small block?
Years ago before my 91 fox was stolen (25year ago ), no wife no kids , no house , no mortgage. Lol). I started out with start block , stock everything with an S trim . Made 298 rwhp at 8psi .
Move up to tfs iron street heats ans edelbrock EFI intake , B303 cam 1.7 rockers , 65 tb and 73 maf , 32 lb injectors. Made 418 rwhp. Was starving it . I didn't know better at the time . Melted the pist and blow the headgasket .
Moved up to a 347 same block , fixed fuel issue . Change the fuel pump . When to 55 injectors toucked up the heads and intake . Went to a 70 TB and an 80 MAF . Anderson pipe , kept the B cam . Loved it better then the E . Stock T5 with 327 in the rear. Tuners
Made 525 at 13lbs of boost spinning it 6500 rpm .
Had an F cam but didn't have the chance to change it . All that with cold A/C . Saleen it and put 17 inch ROH ON HER .
Loved that car so much .just Loved it . The sound of the vortec . miss it dearly . One day i will get another one .
Got a similar set up 331 forged goodies mahle pistons trick flow heads intake 14 pounds of boost 😀 3.55s not sure the power numbers but it will fry tires at 70mph in third 😀 can't touch in first second gear like 30 percent 😉 cooks tires and the sound is intoxicating. I desire no other car even tho some of the new stuff is insane 😳. I even got a Ferrari kill as in fast and furious.
do it now, don't wait. tomorrow is not guaranteed.
if you remember the serial number u might be able to find it nowadays
Man that sucks, when I lived in San Francisco ca. I used to have to park my all original 86 mustang gt 5speed, Man really clean!. I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night knowing how easy they are to steal and people in the Bay Area steal them like crazy out here. I had to sell because of that reason. Now I have 2 fox body’s that I have behind a gate and can mod them how I want them now
Andrew I have 4.6, 5.4 and 5.0 and nothing sounds better than a pushrod 5.0. Nice car.
dont know man, I have a Fox 5.0 and the 4.6 sounds glorious.
I agree 100%.
I say, they both sound awsome, in their own way.
The ford nascar engine the fr9 is the best sounding engine. I think it's a 5.8 V8
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Nice, classic combo: SBF and centrifugal blower! Love the Fox-body content! 🚀🏎
Kinda confused about the front wheels spinning on the dyno. I've been at a lot of dyno shops and seen a lot of videos of dynos and unless it's an AWD the fronts aren't even on rollers. Am I missing something? Lol
Always look for your videos like what your doing keep the content coming. 🚙💨
I had a novi 2000 foxbody I built years ago... It was a lot of fun. It also had a stock bottom.
Nothing says freedom like a supercharged foxbody with veteran tags.
Love the car man. I was wondering what bov you were running and where you got the charge tube from? I'm putting a Paxton Novi 2000 on my 78 Cobra 2 and I've been looking for a setup similar to yours but I cannot find it
How have the ProMaxx heads treated you? Been looking into those for a nice set of budget aluminum heads
Awesome video. Perfect soundtrack 👌🏿
You guys got balls !....I blew my 2 bolt block in half with an old P600 B intercooled ProCharger....making roughly 17lbs of boost...it was closer to 600 HP, with all the add ons TFS aluminum Heads, Cobra modified intake, pistons, cam, all the good stuff, etc....30 over with stock crank....👍🏻💪🏻🇺🇸
Yea, you can put more than 500hp to a stock 302 and that's pushing it. Split it in half.
Way to much boost 6-8 lbs is good
@@terryfloyd8251 tell that to the guys mak8ng over 1000hp with stock blocks. It's not years 2000 anymore.
@@BryanRoupeyou are talking about a 5.0 Coyote, the comment, was about a 2 bolt main 302... You could put 1,000HP to that motor in the 70s, and it would crack THE BLOCK!!! Please, elaborate how new products INSIDE the motor, would help the tensil strength, of the BLOCK 😂🤦♂️🤡
* tensile
Love it. What cam?
is that a custom intake pipe with the blow off valve? that thing is sweet, i want one.
Im just wondering why you used a blow-of valve, isn't that waste power on parasitic drag when reach the desired psi! may be to get better torque on lower rpm range?
Question I have a 302 stock machine balanced old school carb. Can I put a wiend super charger blower that sits on top which is belt driven. What are psi limits on stock 302, and what to watch out for to not blow shit up.
Stock bottom end? What did you gap your rings at?
Man That fox body sounds so mean I want to build one, one day but first I need to build my 2 valve lol
Do your self a favor a sell that 2v shit and use it to buy a boosted 302 or 351w
2 valves are trash … I had a built lighting and it was a total waste of money even though it made 850 to the crank .. if I had to do it all over I would’ve put a coyote in it and turbo
Beautiful fox!!🔥🔥🔥
What cams do you have on this Beast? It sounds sick!
If this video came out six months ago I would have wagered that Andrew "went in another direction"
Haha dope garage tunes ☺️
Why key start no pushy button? Much love from east tx
Nice numbers!
New subscriber I miss my 86😩😔 but this definitely got my attention. Great video keep up the good work 👍🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Subscribed because of this video
John Dosh me too! 🙌🏎🦊
How is it tuning with the terminator x ?
That's a good number considering there is a torque converter on the back of that motor. My 5speed 92 made 538 on a mustang dyno on 12 psi vortech s trim with afm power pipe and manual tensioner. Block split down the valley roll racing on a frontage road. I did a 331 dart block deal and it made 476 rwhp on the same dyno solid roller cam and a set of big afr and heads. Sometimes less is more. B303 cam and smog legal tfs heads for the win.
Same setup 95 cobra with tk0 can confirm fast asf
@@sirsendit9770 hell yeah! I want to build another one. Small block fords are no joke!
Gotta love the chop
When you have the ribbed part of the belt against a flat tensioner, that's usually a problem 😂
Would you ever do a sbf build it's cheaper and has a faster turn around rebuilding them. Just asking. Keep up the good work
If I ever want to go faster I will do one
Why was it breaking up so bad on the road at the end of the video?
I just bought a procharged to put on my 1999 mountaineer 5.0 I hope it sounds this good
If I put a fully forged bottom end in my 94 would my stock block handle all the power ?
Sick I have a 91 5.0 notch back I’ll be posting about it on my channel soon ✅👍
Have you split the block in half yet?
Rapper’s Delight and a screaming sbf beautiful😍 combination
That scream when they step on it
Out of curiosity, why the meth injection when you are running E85? Not criticizing, I had a great experience using water/meth on a 5.0 with a 150 nitrous shot, and 93 pump gas.
It cools the charge air.
Tiny lil powerdyne blower on my car and I’m making 410 at the tire. 331 stroker with afr165 heads and 45lb injector. I can’t wait to upgrade to a novi2000 and see what my car makes at 18psi!!!
What are the rpms at?
I’ve got a question, I’ve got a rebuilt 302 (came out of an 86 f150) in my 82 f100, is there a way to supercharge it?
A bunch of people make supercharger kits for them
Mitch amen and an amen
Just gonna ignore the end where he takes off and it’s unhappy lol
My thoughts exactly. I'm having my 91 built right now. Was at 492 RWHP. We're targeting 550-575 when we're done.
I had 89 5.0 with afr heads, holley intake, cam, and novi 1000. Stock bottom end. It made 400 rwhp at 10lbs on a conservative tune, with pump gas. I miss that car.
Nice! My brothers 95 gt made 426whp with a trick flow top end kit, aeromotive fuel upgrade,and vortech si-trim at 11psi on the stock block
Wondering if you still have this setup if so are you selling it
Stock cam?
Ive been looking at the novi kits is about 4k for a tuner kit just the compressor and and air charge tubes then you need fuel system and computer they are not cheap 💪🇺🇸🔧👍🚘🔴🔥
That's why you go turbo and never look back
Still need fuel and way to tune it
How many pounds of boost!?!? 17 on sbe very bold I like it
Damm this made me want to go back to a charger and not do turbo on my 363 dart. What's the exhaust system from headers on? she sounds outstanding
3" X-pipe with some cheap summit bullet mufflers and dumps off the bullets
Like the music
Can you daily drive that?
Man that’s wild. Must be close to 600hp at the crank on a stock bottom end. Pretty impressive numbers.
Very careful tuning to keep this one alive, also has meth injection pre and post intercooler to help cool things down
@@andrewlavender08 how many ignition timing you gave this monster with 17 psi?
Stopped at 18 degrees
Hold on is that fox awd?
whats the exhaust setup??
I figured 380, that pulley change woke her right up
Found a big vacuum leak after pulley change and belt issue fixed, would only make 9psi of boost. Immediately made 17-18psi after fixed and picked up good power
@@andrewlavender08 what was the last numbers on it ?
What cam
Tupac in the background? Thats lit
Honestly I did excepted more with 17lbs of boost. In the late 90s I made 617whp with stock bottom end, TFS original street heat heads cam and a S-trim on 16lbs of boost. Although I did run gen 6 DFI. So I could run the motor well past the stock 6250 rev limit. Not sure what you have for computer but there's more on the table if you can run it to 6800rpm or so. Any more rpm at that hp level. The bottom ends and block start to get angry lol. Regardless still not a bad job and at least it's not another fucking Ls. Have no problem with Chevy. I'm just so tired of seeing the same thing over and over. If you do think about running pass 6250 you will find little more power with a box upper. Didn't really hurt the power below 4000rpm either. Good luck and enjoy.
Damn ! Run little Pony!
the 89's had forged rods and pistons, anniversary thing
What’s the cam specs
What computer is this car runnning , is it still the stock a9l
Holley Terminator
Is that shop in Clarksville? I've been needing to get my car on the rollers and didn't think we had any shops around the area.
Cables Automotive
Amen
I have a v1 strim and I’m sure at 9psi 400whp ripping like that is how I want my car to run
What heads and cam
What size cam
My goal for my car a 2002 Mustang GT Zinc Yellow convertible 5sp is a livernois 5.3L Short block 195cc ported TFS heads with the intake Andrew has using a BW EFR 9280 single turbo. Assembled BY Livernois ( Not sure of the cam but I want to be able to shift at 7200. NA powerband I think should be 1500 - 5800 and let the turbo handle the rest.)Final compression ratio 10.5 :1.
lmao.
What did the fox say “give me some more boost dundundundun”
Can someone educate me on this dyno? Are the front and rear rollers connected? If so doesn’t turning the front eat HP?
On this type of dyno, the tears are driven and the fronts are only driven if the car is all wheel drive. So the fronts spin a little when you pull it on, but the driven wheels are being measured correctly
Do you have to run a mechanical water pump with that kind of supercharger?
No
Seems low 500 at 17psi, but then again what do I know lol, I came from Hemi platform that make crazy power!!, and now just starting to learn that making power on 2v ain’t as easy
Seems low to me too. I don’t know if I’d want more though lol. 500 whp in a 3000 lb car would be fucking nuts.
Cars make more power on 2Pac I know for sure. What kind of ignition timing you running. I got a 302 in a old fairlane I’m try to dial in.
18 degrees at 17psi
Ok cool I’m at 14 initial and 45 overall with a big cam had no power until I went up on timing think I need 4 more degrees. Lots of back and forth on timing in the 302s.
Seemed to be breaking up on acceleration when you were leaving the dyno.whats up with that?
I was a genius and had a rev limiter set at 2500rpm
I had AFR 185s / SM2 intake and a Novi 2k 10psi on a 306. Made 493whp far from max effort.
We will see how this one does on the track. It was flowing a lot more fuel than 500whp on 17-18psi
@@andrewlavender08 Nice I'd like to see the track vids.
Was that on a stock block / bottom end ? Doing a similar build .
@@shundal17 I have ran similar whp on a stock bottom end. But the 493whp one had 5012H3 Wiseco pistons. I never looked at the rods or crank.
Won't be long before the block splits, its not the rotating assembly that's weak - it's the actual block. 550whp max before the split- give it time.
Not bad.
i do like to see an aluminum 5.4 in your mustang
Or a 347 stroker with that lil blower on it....
Am I crazy ? Or is that an awd drive dyno? And all four wheels are turning
Some dyno shops run the front wheels to match the rear to tune progression based on speed and most speed sensors are mounted on the front as to not give false readings due to wheel spin
Something doesn't sound right not picking up on the top
Idk about that drivable tune tho..driving off sounded rough..but sweet setup.
His two step was activated 😂
18 LBS should make more than that from a novi 2000 and that pully , car sounds like its blowing through the converter.
The Windsor motors are pretty bad my brother has a 351 stroked to a 408 windsor in a 65 mustang it runs 6.40 in a 1/8 and it has no power adders
ever hurd of flip flop the 302 with is still useing stock rod and pistons but litterly fliped around
What was the pulley size that made 18lbs
they said 2.75.
That’s crazy would have thought you’d made into the 600 range on e85 with 17psi. The th400 must eat a lot up. I have a vortech on 15lb on e85 it’s a hand full 1st through 3rd
We where a little thrown off by the dyno numbers. It was flowing enough fuel to make over 600hp, 80lb injectors over 90% duty cycle with 60psi base. Interested to see what it does on the track.
Andrew Lavender wow yeah something wasn’t right! Should be a ripper for sure
The th400 don't eat that much...lol
Th400 eats up a lot but car actually will run faster and blow the fcking doors of your stick shift. Dyno numbers dont mean shit.
Th400 eats 20-25% but who cares cause car will destroy your stick. Dyno numbers or for snowflakes
That HP is way low compared to a vortech S trims I've seen. A Vortech S trim with decent heads and cam on a 302 typically makes 495 rwhp on 10 psi. Built several and all dyno 490+ rwhp with 10psi. They've all had different heads, cam, intake combos too.
TH400 takes up a good bit of hp
@@sublime929 Yeah, I didn't realize it was a TH400 originally. Wasn't till I went back and watched it again.
AWD? 👀🤔
With heat soak it's probably more like 520 whp
Most likely, this car should be a runner
500 on that block is a safe place to stop for a couple of years of good racing action. She will split on day at that. I promise.
Running lean
that thing needs an intercooler bad..
For the boost you're pushing I think you're short on HP
E E absolute bellend
E E
I thought the same thing.
Especially for being on E85
Sbf... heads, cam intake, supercharger 9psi= 400rwhp - $5000 in motor easy
Ls1....stock ls6 heads, cam, stock ls6 intake=400+rwhp - $2000..... ls1 with same mods as the mustang... $5000 and 600-800rwhp. Very nice car and good power but why spend the money on a 302 not a 351/408?
Only 500hp u should b making more than that at that psi u better get that tuned right sounded like shit at the end something isn't right
Is this thing awd?
AWD dyno, front rollers spin with the back
@@andrewlavender08 oh wow I've never seen that before
rwd but that would be sick tho!!!
This was the only comment I was looking for 😂😂 I was like is that awd
Sounds Mean
Is 500 the limit
We could go farther with more fuel system, maxed out 80lb injectors on e85
@@andrewlavender08 oh dang 😈
Is it 4wd
Rapene Edwards I wondered the same thing.
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